http://revolution-green.com/hopegirl-spins-way-london/
Holding out on us? Private demos, private links, private comment pages? Your "slip" is showing.....
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;)
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 06:29:14 AM
Holding out on us? Private demos, private links, private comment pages? Your "slip" is showing.....
:(
;)
I think you saw the satire in that one lol
Private demos are the richest kind.... they are Mountain Grown! I am a little confused about the nine Private Comments, though.
I love private demos. Some places, you can even get "outcalls" and have the private demo come to your residence or hotel room! Now that's what I call a "demo".
Here's a little private demo I did some time ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x2YfA9LU5s
Seriously, though.... would you buy a used car from this woman?
Girl basher !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
Seriously, though.... would you buy a used car from this woman?
Really so we are now resorting to personal attacks? Wow.. Joke or no joke that was uncalled for...
Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Really so we are now resorting to personal attacks? Wow.. Joke or no joke that was uncalled for...
I can smell something burning. ;D ;D ;D Need some ice ?? ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 01:34:27 PM
Really so we are now resorting to personal attacks? Wow.. Joke or no joke that was uncalled for...
One.
Hundred.
THOUSAND.
Dollars.
That explains the smirk on her face. And that's just what we know about.
Joke, or no joke? How much money did YOU donate to her vacation fund? The joke.... is on YOU.
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 01:48:20 PM
One.
Hundred.
THOUSAND.
Dollars.
That explains the smirk on her face. And that's just what we know about.
Joke, or no joke? How much money did YOU donate to her vacation fund? The joke.... is on YOU.
The point is this It was donated. It wasn't invested, it wasn't loaned and it sure didn't come with a certain time. It was implied that they had a working technology. If they didn't and was only going on prototyping an experiment then yes they are gonna have hiccups. The thing is you are saying it's a scam but there has to be someone out there that thought this was an investment, that it was a loan of money to do work in this. It is not an investment, it was not a loan it was THIS: "A donation is a gift given by physical or legal persons, typically for charitable purposes and/or to benefit a cause. A donation may take various forms, including cash offering, services, new or used goods including clothing, toys, food, and vehicles. It also may consist of emergency, relief or humanitarian aid items, development aid support, and can also relate to medical care needs as i.e. blood or organs for transplant. Charitable gifts of goods or services are also called gifts in kind."
Get off the scam crap and focus on what they are doing.
The real joke is on you! You have no idea what it is like to GIFT something. Your soul is screaming "SCAM SCAM" when no one is expecting a thing from it but what they have gotten as a reward for gifting at that time. Maybe the only expectation is that some of their energy is going to help another in their quest for finding out the truth. But then again truth to you is not a heart or soul thing. Truth to you is only what you can see or feel physically. Welp there are a great many things out there that we can not see with our unaided eyes. We need tools for that. Obviously your tools are lacking.
Some who are either in the military services actively
or have been in the past may recognize something
very familiar with the sound the QEG produces as it
comes into resonance. Particularly those who have
served in the Navy.
If they have been near certain aircraft during flight
testing it may bring back memories.
They're getting close.
Quote from: SeaMonkey on April 12, 2014, 04:05:15 PM
Some who are either in the military services actively
or have been in the past may recognize something
very familiar with the sound the QEG produces as it
comes into resonance. Particularly those who have
served in the Navy.
If they have been near certain aircraft during flight
testing it may bring back memories.
They're getting close.
So the hopegirl proved to be a hopegirl or hopelessgirl ! ;)
Quote from: jbignes5 on April 12, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
The point is this It was donated. It wasn't invested, it wasn't loaned and it sure didn't come with a certain time. It was implied that they had a working technology. If they didn't and was only going on prototyping an experiment then yes they are gonna have hiccups. The thing is you are saying it's a scam but there has to be someone out there that thought this was an investment, that it was a loan of money to do work in this. It is not an investment, it was not a loan it was THIS: "A donation is a gift given by physical or legal persons, typically for charitable purposes and/or to benefit a cause. A donation may take various forms, including cash offering, services, new or used goods including clothing, toys, food, and vehicles. It also may consist of emergency, relief or humanitarian aid items, development aid support, and can also relate to medical care needs as i.e. blood or organs for transplant. Charitable gifts of goods or services are also called gifts in kind."
Get off the scam crap and focus on what they are doing.
The real joke is on you! You have no idea what it is like to GIFT something. Your soul is screaming "SCAM SCAM" when no one is expecting a thing from it but what they have gotten as a reward for gifting at that time. Maybe the only expectation is that some of their energy is going to help another in their quest for finding out the truth. But then again truth to you is not a heart or soul thing. Truth to you is only what you can see or feel physically. Welp there are a great many things out there that we can not see with our unaided eyes. We need tools for that. Obviously your tools are lacking.
Uncle JB, dont you find it strange that someone comes out of woods to help humanity with a new free energy technology. Oh she is the saviour of mankind.
Has the tech been really proved to be working ?
IMHO, in free energy field its ok to start with disbelief till proven wrong ! Right ?
Wrong ! ;D
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 06:29:14 AM
Holding out on us? Private demos, private links, private comment pages? Your "slip" is showing.....
:(
;)
PS that story was taken down due to the number of offensive posts and it was an April fools satire.
Mark
Quote from: Google on April 13, 2014, 07:07:11 AM
Uncle JB, dont you find it strange that someone comes out of woods to help humanity with a new free energy technology. Oh she is the saviour of mankind.
Has the tech been really proved to be working ?
IMHO, in free energy field its ok to start with disbelief till proven wrong ! Right ?
Wrong ! ;D
Actually it is someone who realized who did bring it up first. They are just working with the technology. They really didn't invent it. The chain is this: Hopegirl and company, Thrapp, TESLA. Tesla tried to give this stuff to the world and Some are doing the same as they did to him. Instead of sitting down and looking at the machine and process some have taken a stance without knowing NOTHING about the system at all.
And no I generally start with the position that it can and does work as stated. Then it's time to find the chinks. This is standard procedure for me at least and most others. If it does not interest you then just go about your business and continue on. At that point what does it matter? If you do not believe the tech or the explanation then just go about your business. ESPECIALLY if you have not donated a thing to the funds.
Like I said before lets just wait to see what happens, it does no one any good to start to rip into this before it has a chance to go anywhere. It only looks like some are here to put anything down even before it gets a good start.
The real problem is that some here are here to dissuade people from the start. A new post here gets nailed by these guys trying to muddle up the works from the beginning. This does two things. One it puts a shard of doubt even before it gets off the ground. This naturally blocks all funding attempts if the experimenter tries to go the next step. But we have created our own network of philanthropists who give for giving sake. For just the small percentage that they might find something no matter how small that will ease suffering in the world. This kills all the employed doubters attempts to squash something that has been around for over 100 years. They are loosing control and have no way to fight back. We all win!
As to whether this is a viable tech, well it is still open. The balls in their end of the court now. It does look like they are really pushing this and DOING the work. Just have to sit back and see the outcome.
Quote from: SeaMonkey on April 12, 2014, 04:05:15 PM
Some who are either in the military services actively
or have been in the past may recognize something
very familiar with the sound the QEG produces as it
comes into resonance. Particularly those who have
served in the Navy.
If they have been near certain aircraft during flight
testing it may bring back memories.
They're getting close.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor%E2%80%93generator
https://www.surplussales.com/powersupplies/PowerS-12.html
The AC from these units is often 400 Hz for compatibility with military and aircraft systems.
Where are the input vs output test results?
Where are the independent verifications?
Where are the replications?
Has anyone, like Mark Dansie, been invited to see this device in operation?
Think about it. If you really had a working free energy device, would you not do all of the above? Or, at least some of them? This always raises a red flag, or flags, with me. I am not claiming that the device is not really what they claim, I don't have enough verified info for that...but, until any or all of the above questions are answered, I am very, very dubious as this seems to follow the pattern of all of the other "working devices" we have seen thus far.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 13, 2014, 01:15:29 PM
Where are the input vs output test results?
Where are the independent verifications?
Where are the replications?
Has anyone, like Mark Dansie, been invited to see this device in operation?
Think about it. If you really had a working free energy device, would you not do all of the above? Or, at least some of them? This always raises a red flag, or flags, with me. I am not claiming that the device is not really what they claim, I don't have enough verified info for that...but, until any or all of the above questions are answered, I am very, very dubious as this seems to follow the pattern of all of the other "working devices" we have seen thus far.
Bill
Think about it! Really?
They are doing just that but you know what, America isn't included in this release just yet. They chose to build each replication at the site where the participants are learning about the system. They are testing and they are replicating in each country that is not America. Why? Because of people like you. They chose to approach it from another angle that does not include the Cynics. They went to countries that need this technology FIRST and to countries that WILL listen, learn and build Good units to expand upon. After each country gets a working device then maybe, just maybe we might get access to all the parts. For right now the cores are very expensive. They have to be custom made and this is an issue.
Do not put them down because they are smart enough to go around people like you. If you think this is junk then just go about your business. Stop slandering them and critiquing everything they do. They are working off the cuff and quickly got out of dodge to be able to work on this.
One other suggestion for you: You build it! You replicate it. You test it. They gave the plans away why not do it yourself? Oh wait then you would answer it for yourself. Thats right you want it handed to you without doing one thing to understand the device or method. Stop ranting and do something about it, otherwise Keep it to yourself....
Quote from: jbignes5 on April 13, 2014, 01:39:44 PM
Think about it! Really?
They are doing just that but you know what, America isn't included in this release just yet. They chose to build each replication at the site where the participants are learning about the system. They are testing and they are replicating in each country that is not America. Why? Because of people like you. They chose to approach it from another angle that does not include the Cynics. They went to countries that need this technology FIRST and to countries that WILL listen, learn and build Good units to expand upon. After each country gets a working device then maybe, just maybe we might get access to all the parts. For right now the cores are very expensive. They have to be custom made and this is an issue.
Do not put them down because they are smart enough to go around people like you. If you think this is junk then just go about your business. Stop slandering them and critiquing everything they do. They are working off the cuff and quickly got out of dodge to be able to work on this.
One other suggestion for you: You build it! You replicate it. You test it. They gave the plans away why not do it yourself? Oh wait then you would answer it for yourself. Thats right you want it handed to you without doing one thing to understand the device or method. Stop ranting and do something about it, otherwise Keep it to yourself....
People like me? Oh, ok, so I guess this means that you know me then? How can this possibly be?
"Stop ranting"? So, I make one post on this topic and I ask a few questions and THIS is ranting then?
Whatever Dude.
So, I should build this then? Why? No one has built one that works, or has been proven to work, so...
you suggest I should waste my time doing this? I thought that you knew all about "people like me". Evidently not then.
People like me build things that work and are useful. We invent things that did not exist before and engineer them to a real working device. No, I have not invented a free energy system but, neither has Hopegirl evidently. We are told this is based on WITTS device which, as it turns out, does not work either.
Why is Hopegirl still paying an electric bill at her house then? Why is WITTS? Oh wait, I just asked two more questions so I must be ranting again.
Possibly, instead of posting about "people like me" that you clearly know nothing about, maybe you should spend your time posting about people like Hopegirl? No?
I suppose it is much easier to make broad assumptions about people and devices you obviously know nothing about.
Carry on then as I know you will. Walk blindly into that good night and revel in your ignorance.
Bill
Talk about clearly knowing nothing about someone you might want to take your own advice. You know nothing about me or these people. You assume they are doing something shifty or not right, You are demanding where are these results you require. Even when you don't figure into the equation. You mean little to them because they are doing this outside of anyones control. They are doing and not sitting around debating on wether this is gonna work or not. They are getting data as we speak and getting working replication that they brought to other countries to figure out, improve and get real data.
The only reason to sit here asking questions that will never be seen by them has to be just ranting. They will never see this. You want to know why? Because they are too busy building and doing. If you want answers then it is only a simple matter of building the device and get your own damn answers. But instead you and others sit here RANTING about unanswered questions. I encourage you to take up the mantle and do what they are doing, BUILD it. Then all the answers will be yours to have. A rant doesn't have to be initiated by you. It can be a group thing and this is exactly what is happening. A group rant that will not stop them at all. But what it is doing is showing us who is a part of this free energy community. A community that was started to find the device or method to attain free energy.
Who would have thought that one device would bring such a fluster. One device which was given freely for the entire world, that includes you as well. So again if you have questions, who would you believe to answer those questions? Most likely you right? Lets take doubt out of the picture and you can simply built it. Otherwise you only ranting with the group.
I have taken up the mantle to defend their right to do what they are doing without being here to defend themselves. Not because I think they have a working device but because they deserve a chance to prove it without ducking all the shots at them. Give them time to start getting this to a fact type disclosure. Right now they are just entering the discovery of improvement phase and how they can manufacture these at a much more reduced cost. Taipei is a major manufacturing center. One man I heard is an electrical engineer that is learning the process. Not only that the man who rediscovered the process has extensive experience in a professional way and has several patents already from that experience. Give them time and you will get answers either way you go.
Just more sensationalism and futile banter "IF" it works or not. Just release the engineering reality and scientific clarity on why it works plus some CLEAR parameters (input/output etc) PROOF. I have seen this too many times to waste my own free energy to its pursuit :D
http://valnor.deviantart.com/art/The-Scammer-P0003-447302578 (http://valnor.deviantart.com/art/The-Scammer-P0003-447302578)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zThIXTt8QM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9N4WomO7I
They have released everything they got so far. EVEN the plans. You want the specifics then like I suggested it is OPEN SOURCED and you can build it if you like. What more can you ask for? The Technical part of the device is changing day by day, improvement by improvement. Instead of putting numbers down they are leaving it up to the OPEN SOURCE community to do that if they please. Note as they get closer to bringing out the final design they will specify their units and the capabilities but that will change from build to build. Like say they have a normal unit they are gonna sell. They will go through the process to tell the capabilities as they fit for that model.
As you have heard there is 30 countries interested in this device. Since it is open sourced It will cost nothing for the device plans but they simply ask for a donation to either them or Thrapp for each build. Donation is not a requirement but is gladly accepted from all sales.
You also won't have to build a huge unit like they are showing. This should work down to 1k watt units as they state that upsizing will work as well.
They need to get the word out and yes a certain amount of enthusiasm goes a great distance to helping the cause of getting this out there and learned.
If this doesn't sound good to you then do what you have been doing all along, pay someone else to do the work. Check out some other threads that might interest you and if you are wasting time then obviously you are doing this for the wrong reasons. Isn't the search an act of learning? Don't you do this to find an answer? Whats keeping you from being one of those replicators?
Quote from: jbignes5 on April 13, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zThIXTt8QM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zThIXTt8QM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9N4WomO7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE9N4WomO7I)
They have released everything they got so far. EVEN the plans. You want the specifics then like I suggested it is OPEN SOURCED and you can build it if you like. What more can you ask for?
Seriously? Wtf is this shit? Is this video a joke? Good luck spending money on that. This smells 8 miles against the wind. QEG my ass. Open source my ass for a non working device. Good night.
Quote from: gauschor on April 13, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Seriously? Wtf is this shit? Is this video a joke? Good luck spending money on that. This smells 8 miles against the wind. QEG my ass. Open source my ass for a non working device. Good night.
Being incredulous and indignant over a video solves nothing. Keep your money. It's yours to spend how you like. If something is open source and doesn't cost you a dime, why are you complaining?
Quote from: Artoj on April 13, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
Just more sensationalism and futile banter "IF" it works or not. Just release the engineering reality and scientific clarity on why it works plus some CLEAR parameters (input/output etc) PROOF. I have seen this too many times to waste my own free energy to its pursuit :D
http://valnor.deviantart.com/art/The-Scammer-P0003-447302578 (http://valnor.deviantart.com/art/The-Scammer-P0003-447302578)
Arto,
I'm disappointed. I expected better.
Regards,
VIDBID
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Quote from: SeaMonkey on April 12, 2014, 10:05:15 PM
Some who are either in the military services actively
or have been in the past may recognize something
very familiar with the sound the QEG produces as it
comes into resonance. Particularly those who have
served in the Navy.
If they have been near certain aircraft during flight
testing it may bring back memories.
They're getting close.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor%E2%80%93generator
https://www.surplussales.com/powersupplies/PowerS-12.html
The AC from these units is often 400 Hz for compatibility with military and aircraft systems.
The aircraft that was referred to is unconventional.
The segment of the Navy which operated such
craft is small and unconventional as well. Any who
have this sort of experience will know although they
will probably not fully understand what it was that made
the peculiar sound.
If the QEG effort is a scam and a fraud then it is being
attempted in an odd way. Recent revelations regarding
the operational parameters of the device are indeed
very encouraging. It looks to me that there is truly
something there.
It is unconventional.
Quote from: gauschor on April 13, 2014, 05:28:43 PM
Seriously? Wtf is this shit? Is this video a joke? Good luck spending money on that. This smells 8 miles against the wind. QEG my ass. Open source my ass for a non working device. Good night.
It was to show you that they are doing what they said they are doing in London. Oh and that was only for a conference and not a builders workshop. I mean really. Pull up your pants your drawls are showing. It doesn't matter what you think really...
http://revolution-green.com/obtaining-energy-earths-spin-force/
Latest update video.
Still no overunity or excess energy device demonstrated.
I have no issue with the efforts, I applaud them....just the claims made without any data or evidence.
Call it for what it is, an interesting development project aiming to get overunity
Kind Regards
Mark
Hope you will find this of interest.
http://livnshine.blogspot.com/2014/05/free-energy-is-here.html?spref=fb
Looks like hope girl wasn't selling a pup. love and light to all :D
:D here is another independently constructed machine achieving over unity. I don't know you wait around for 130 years and then they all come at once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJkNruMM6tE&noredirect=1
Sorry,
but more bullshirt from Fakegirl !
She is now advertising this video on her GoFundme Campaign and
is scamming the people again out of donations !
BEWARE !
They calculated the output power wrongly by just using the peak to peak values !
This surely gives false output power values.
They must use RMS value, so using RMS values the machine
is just around 36 % efficient only.
You see it already, that the 6 light bulbs are pretty dim compared to the
table light in the background...
What we see here at these 6 bulbs is only around 225 Watts all in total,
but not 2 KWatts as claimed !
I really don´t like it, when people are lied at and tried to male money
with lies...
Fakegirl stop your bullshit !
It hurts the whole free energy community !
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan:
Well said Sir.
Bill