It is a bit underwhelming by comparison....
The works of man compared to the works of our Creator, I mean. It's damn depressing to even consider such master work as having been done by blind, dumb accident. I mean, look at how man scrambles to copy Creation. He spends trillions of dollars and still doesn't even know where to begin to copy the simplest of the simple among God's works. Many have seen the video, "inner life of a cell", by Harvard, on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJyUtbn0O5Y)
That video alone shows that Darwin was smoking crack to "believe" (faith. it's everywhere) that the single cell was merely a simple micro packet of protoplasmic goo. As so many among the scientific 'intelligentsia' believed for so long.
So, if even the simplest form of "life", the single cell, is so amazingly complicated....like a veritable city....Containing machines, cogs, levers, sprockets, highly efficient, self assembling highways, timely trash collectors, "sky scrapers", even bipedal organisms walking upright on those highways, hauling giant (by comparison) bags of cargo......Then where does that leave man as the supposed "pinnacle" of evolution? As he is no where near as "wise" as his parts, let alone the sum of them. If man's focused wisdom doesn't even know where to begin to duplicate the simplest component of life in it's smallest, humblest form, then it explains much in the way of his legacy of fallen empires. As God said, it does not belong to man who is walking, even to direct his step. Yet Who governs the steps of those trillions of tiny two legged organisms walking upright in each of our cells long before the term "homo erectus" was so assumedly misapplied? Why do they slave away day after day, century after century.....to keep us walking upright?
http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2014/04/ancient-high-performance-electric-motors-discovered-that-are-still-in-production-2685290.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2014/04/ancient-high-performance-electric-motors-discovered-that-are-still-in-production-2685290.html)
When I see the dismal array of technological, circular logic devices entrenched within institutionalized "education", cwhoreporations, politics, and the military industrial complex, I compare them to the simplest of God's works and sometimes cannot decide whether to cry or chuckle.
Why does God demand faith? He says that without it, it is impossible for man to please Him well. Look at how fast man's "mightiest" works have fallen as soon as the people stop believing. In the powers that be. In one another....losing "Faith". Faith IS balance, and cannot exist without love. And God IS LOVE. Faith is the only currency by which one may afford to buy time itself! I've witnessed the simplest acts of resolute faith, change lives. Change nations. Even the direction of the planet for a time. Yet we remain so fickle. So judgmental....for faith without accurate knowledge is most corrosive. Emotive faith, guided by one's simplistic heart, can be treacherous indeed. Faith guided by reason and motivated by love is at the very core of the science of sentience.
I find it sadly, ironically hypocritical that men are so quick to judge God. Decrying His requirement of "faith". When those same men demand faith from their marriage partners, their children, friends, strangers, even the family dog. How far does an army travel without faith? Not very. The chains of command the world over demand deaf dumb and blind obedience daily. Their blood sacrifices of themselves and their victims no matter the shifting quick sands of relativistic "moral high ground" of the moment.....produce what? And yet many of these cannot, or will not, see the value of the blood sacrifice of Christ Himself.
"No greater love can a man have, but to lay down his life for a friend" – Jesus Christ
And He proved it.
Anyone. Anyone at all can give up his life blood for another. It is done all the time. It is remarkably easy to give up life, or take it, in the heat of the moment. The real sacrifice is in LIVING one's life for others. As it requires MUCH more dedication and faith. And this, Christ did as well. Teaching those who remain teachable, the ONLY way into the Kingdom that Lasts. Mankind's science, even at it's best, is merely the arrogant, assumptive, and clumsy deconstruction, or to be generous, the 'reverse engineering' of....F A I T H
For all is belief. All that we experience is based upon belief. Beliefs change, grow, or whither every day, based upon new knowledge. And still, despite all that he has squandered, sacrificing the many to satisfy the few....Godless mankind doesn't really have a clue as to what he's made of. Or what, or Who, made Him.
"It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings. Proverbs 25:2
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse." – Romans 1:20
They could see quite well, the hand of God at work in nature, millennia ago. We who now have the foretold abilities to see much deeper and further into His works should be able to see the forest for the trees at least as well....but what blinds us today? Why do we repeat the same fatal mistakes as our ancestors?
Who dares call Him a Tyrant Who achieved a Masterfully balanced kingdom, and has held it? Is it a tyrant who built this once cosmic Island Paradise to be shared and enjoyed by many? Man even now seeks to copy His creator by creating a "man" in our own image. One with sentience. Self awareness. Is it a coincidence that man started out creating robotic bugs and onward and upward, adjusting his focus toward duplicating himself in lower form.....just as God said He did?
I'll tell you this, no bigger a fool is found than the one that, should he attain the mastery....creates sentient beings like himself and then allows them to proliferate in his own domain, untested. No. Before allowing such, the wise "scientist" would have them tested thoroughly in a lower realm before admitting them into His Kingdom.
Tell me, what are the correct latitudes of balance? Balance maintained, balance lost and balance restored?
http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm (http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm)
"It does not belong to man who is walking, even to direct his step".
What happens then, when a man sincerely asks his Maker to direct His steps? Ask Him, meaningfully, in Christ and see if He is not Who He said He is.
While time remains to do so.
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/06/pole-shift-of-noahs-day-about-to-happen-again-heres-the-evidence-you-decide-2461772.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/06/pole-shift-of-noahs-day-about-to-happen-again-heres-the-evidence-you-decide-2461772.html)
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Proven scientific fact V the bigest story book of all time. ::)
Quote: When I see the dismal array of technological, circular logic devices entrenched within institutionalized "education", cwhoreporations, politics, and the military industrial complex, I compare them to the simplest of God's works and sometimes cannot decide whether to cry or chuckle.
And here you sit on one of those !dismal arrays of technology!,typing away-peddling a story book.
First up,GOD is only a belief-not a known fact of existance.
Science is based around known fact's-unlike the bible.
The earth(and life) was created by chance. Sure the odds were high,but so are the odd's of winning lotto-but some one always wins due to numbers.
You only need to look at how many stars are in the milky way alone,and then multiply that by the number of planets that orbit those star's-the odds of life being created are far better than the odds of winning lotto.
The birth of GOD's came about when early man had no explination for strange things that happened way back then,that we can easly answer today. Then came the birth of the greatest story book of all time !the bible!-and the legend still lingers in the minds of the believers.
http://newthoughtlibrary.com/holmesErnest
You missed the point entirely, as is your entitlement. The signs that we are very low on the cosmic 'totem-pole' are many. That many choose to believe only what their paltry 5 senses usually appear to tell them is certainly their prerogative. To believe 'only' what one can explain by grossly incomplete sciences, limited to facts in evidence is tantamount to the old addage:
"Knowledge without wisdom is like a burden of books on the back of an ass."
How exact is your science? How strong is your faith?
Depends on who you ask, and how much one 'thinks' he knows.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1053837-we-may-be-living-in-the-matrix-says-engineer/
"For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."
There are those who 'know' alot about forests. There are those who 'know' alot about trees. But what does any of it matter if it all succumbs to his disease?
"I will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth" - God.
"I tell you, he will grant justice to them quickly! But when the Son of Man returns, how many will he find on the earth who have faith?"
Thousands of years ago, some were taught the Genius of Faith. Being much more than two steps ahead of their contemporaries, they were "crackpots" and were mistreated terribly.
It was a mutual faith that built all the empires of man. It was a mutual collapse of faith that helped bring them all down....right on through today.
I'd say that Christ certainly has Perfect right to ask the question....
When I return, will I find faith left upon the earth?
For what Kingdom can last without it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fED-Ky4VEMc
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Quote from: TechStuf on November 02, 2014, 03:57:37 AM
"I will bring to ruin, those ruining the earth" - God.
"I tell you, he will grant justice to them quickly! But when the Son of Man returns, how many will he find on the earth who have faith?"
The SON of man was suppose to return in the year 2000-but alas-a no show. ::)
I dont like your GOD much,you only have to have a look at the churches story of Noah.Seems your god decided to kill every living thing on the planet-except for a select few.Im guessing all the other animals,children,women and men were bad?,or was it just tooooo hard to sort out the good from the bad?.
Nah- i think i'll stick to known science ;),and what we dont know now,we will know in the future.
God=negentropy
QuoteNah- i think i'll stick to known science, and what we dont know now,we will know in the future.
But science 'knows' so little in comparison to what they 'believe' they know...
The evidence is overwhelming that our reality IS engineered. The number of witnessed miracles the world over, being reported on the net and elsewhere these days, is Amazing. Overwhelming. It is all too easy to judge one's maker for failings of mankind, rather than rise to meet the challenges that bring greater understanding. I mean, look at what man does to his fellow man, and has done for millenia. If 'you' had developed an amazingly paradaisaic, simulated world, and worked rather hard on it for the purpose of populating it with advanced AI beings, looking much like yourself, and they began ruining it all, the realm being hacked by your enemies, surely you'd consider pulling the plug too. Afterall, these beings are 'far' beneath those you've already allowed to populate the realm you inhabit!
Look at the agendas of mankind today...all the 'depopulation' going on. It looks as though a certain 'select slice' of the human pie has turned on the vast majority already, and for some time now. Playing as though 'they' are God. Just as He said that they would do near the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wMMJkk6feY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wMMJkk6feY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-62uxbMBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-62uxbMBM)
An eternal Kingdom that is fair, balanced, and beneficial to all is never an easy task. But once established, can accomplish Greater things than we can currently imagine.
Youtube alone contains more concrete evidence that a small sector of mankind has been busy killing off millions for decades than one could ever have time to watch. Once one is able to come to terms with the Fact that we are created, it behooves that one to find out Who did so. I submit that God is Who He says He is. I could write volumes, just as many others, about what He has done for me, yet the Truth is always more persuasive when personally experienced.
God IS Love, and Love is the only thing that lasts. Anything borne of hate kills itself and those it claims...preventing any empire that allows it to progress from making it too far. As man's roller coaster ride of risen and fallen empires can attest.
Speaking of Noah, the Truth is, God was pained, 'sorry' that He even made man upon the earth. How many times have we, his children, been sorry for what we've made, and wanted to start over? It's easy to judge our Maker, ourselves, each other. It's easy because, generally, we are lazy. And it's easier to pass blame than admit we share in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-eSRcr9CWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-eSRcr9CWw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3QsisQrkc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3QsisQrkc)
It's a dangerous thing, judging God. For to do so requires that one has already judged one's self. Judging one's self unworthy of really examining those truths that lead to uncomfortable conclusions. Or at least those that require us to live more selflessly.
That which is currently rejected by establishment science is where all the Fun and Excitement and Lasting Learning is....Those that inhabit the 'niche' realm of 'overunity' research know that. Or used to know...
If it's one thing the world can increasingly agree on, it's that our planet has little time....
And one may finish such a sentence with that which Truly motivates them.
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P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ)
http://www.neardeathsite.com/evidence.php (http://www.neardeathsite.com/evidence.php)
Quote from: TechStuf on November 02, 2014, 02:48:04 PM
But science 'knows' so little in comparison to what they 'believe' they know...
The evidence is overwhelming that our reality IS engineered. The number of witnessed miracles the world over, being reported on the net and elsewhere these days, is Amazing. Overwhelming. It is all too easy to judge one's maker for failings of mankind, rather than rise to meet the challenges that bring greater understanding. I mean, look at what man does to his fellow man, and has done for millenia. If 'you' had developed an amazingly paradaisaic, simulated world, and worked rather hard on it for the purpose of populating it with advanced AI beings, looking much like yourself, and they began ruining it all, the realm being hacked by your enemies, surely you'd consider pulling the plug too. Afterall, these beings are 'far' beneath those you've already allowed to populate the realm you inhabit!
Look at the agendas of mankind today...all the 'depopulation' going on. It looks as though a certain 'select slice' of the human pie has turned on the vast majority already, and for some time now. Playing as though 'they' are God. Just as He said that they would do near the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wMMJkk6feY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wMMJkk6feY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-62uxbMBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T-62uxbMBM)
An eternal Kingdom that is fair, balanced, and beneficial to all is never an easy task. But once established, can accomplish Greater things than we can currently imagine.
Youtube alone contains more concrete evidence that a small sector of mankind has been busy killing off millions for decades than one could ever have time to watch. Once one is able to come to terms with the Fact that we are created, it behooves that one to find out Who did so. I submit that God is Who He says He is. I could write volumes, just as many others, about what He has done for me, yet the Truth is always more persuasive when personally experienced.
God IS Love, and Love is the only thing that lasts. Anything borne of hate kills itself and those it claims...preventing any empire that allows it to progress from making it too far. As man's roller coaster ride of risen and fallen empires can attest.
Speaking of Noah, the Truth is, God was pained, 'sorry' that He even made man upon the earth. How many times have we, his children, been sorry for what we've made, and wanted to start over? It's easy to judge our Maker, ourselves, each other. It's easy because, generally, we are lazy. And it's easier to pass blame than admit we share in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSZNYdfawQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaN2acVMGC8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-eSRcr9CWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-eSRcr9CWw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3QsisQrkc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG3QsisQrkc)
It's a dangerous thing, judging God. For to do so requires that one has already judged one's self. Judging one's self unworthy of really examining those truths that lead to uncomfortable conclusions. Or at least those that require us to live more selflessly.
That which is currently rejected by establishment science is where all the Fun and Excitement and Lasting Learning is....Those that inhabit the 'niche' realm of 'overunity' research know that. Or used to know...
If it's one thing the world can increasingly agree on, it's that our planet has little time....
And one may finish such a sentence with that which Truly motivates them.
Good Journies
P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ)
http://www.neardeathsite.com/evidence.php (http://www.neardeathsite.com/evidence.php)
It is good that you have your beliefs Tech,but i also have mine. Im not a believer in god such as the churches portray. I see you posted many good things,but what about all the bad that has resided in the churches of the world. You only have to look at the child abuse carried out by high ranking church leaders world wide. One has to ask,if a church is where people go to find,comunicate with god,and god is so close-why did god allow this to happen to children?.
My point is that just because you believe in god,that dosnt make you any better or more trustworthy than any one else. Bad is not within non believers,bad is within man(and woman) him self. You choose your own path,and history shows that just because you are a man of god(a believer),you are just a capable as any one else of doing the wrong thing.
Im sorry Tech,but the answer dosnt lye in believing in god-the answer is believing that man him self can right his wrongs. It is good to see that the powers that be are starting to see the light.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-24/lou-ready-or-not-the-transition-from-coal-has-begun/5765282
QuoteIm sorry Tech,but the answer dosnt lye in believing in god-the answer is believing that man him self can right his wrongs. It is good to see that the powers that be are starting to see the light.
You've made some very good points in your latest comment. Many a grievous wrong has been committed by those who claim to represent God on earth. Of course, God said this would be so, and that He would judge them severely, who commit atrocities or willfully teach error in His name.
You believe that the answer lies in believing that man himself can right his wrongs. This is certainly understandable. Your statement, or something quite similar, has been said by countless individuals since the beginning. Yet history has shown continually, that this is simply not the case. We want to believe that man has it within himself to solve his problems, yet just the last 100 annual rounds on the Old roller coaster has shown quite the opposite. Man has done more damage to his fellow man and the planet in the last 100, than since flood. Our Father said that near the end, it would get worse than at any time since the beginning, nor ever would be allowed to occur again.
God said what He would do to those who ruin His earth. He made it clear in His Word that His enemies would form a one world government, taking dominion over the atmosphere, even going into space. That they would seek to establish an economic system that required all to receive a mark in order to buy or sell. He said this thousands of years ago. And it's happening....the evidence is prolific.
If the rights and responsibilities of the individual were unfailingly and accurately taught, encouraged and supported, our world would be a different place. Such is God's Kingdom. Man has always allowed group dynamics and mass psychology to foment chaos. It is only when the parts are healthy that the whole can thrive. To injure the individual for the supposed sake of the many is like allowing rotten apples to spoil the whole bunch. Fallen empires 101. Take away or even simply confuse the rights and responsibilities of the individual long enough, and watch the whole group fall.
If we were to judge every group by those who falsely claim to represent them, then we would have quite a mess indeed! Wait, that's exactly what we already have. Re-examine the evidence I've shared closely. How can a book written thousands of years ago be so accurate if produced by such faulty, flighty, and fickle humans?
The answer is, simply, it cannot. There is a time coming, when our Creator will say, "It is finished. Let the righteous go on doing righteous, and the wicked go on doing wicked." The door will be closed to those realizing too late, their error. And the opportunity to be welcomed into that Kingdom without end, withdrawn.
Here is an excellent resource for those who bristle against the concept of a Creator. Why he allows suffering for a time. The significance of His Right and Left Hands and their differences...
http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm (http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm)
It would be great if man could cast off his differences and Truly work together for the common good. The fact is, however, such a hope has been capitalized on for millenia. Thoroughly usurped in fact, such that anarchistic ideas become popular in a jaded society, weary of having such hopes preyed upon continually by those who claim to represent the people and their hopes. No, it is not God who is unworthy of being believed in. He proves Himself to ALL who sincerely petition Him. He saved Kirk Martin....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fED-Ky4VEMc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fED-Ky4VEMc)
And if he can save Kirk, who can't He save? Remember, there is much more to this short earthly experience than we are conditioned to believe.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ)
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/mans-trip-to-heaven-story-going-viral-3-3042846.html?currentSplittedPage=0 (http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/mans-trip-to-heaven-story-going-viral-3-3042846.html?currentSplittedPage=0)
So many are missing out on crazy, amazing miracles in their lives. Rejecting God as too hard to believe, to vague. And when presented with absolutely compelling evidence, then rejecting Him because the information is too detailed and specific. Must be made up. It is never the facts that are acted upon in this life. It is always what we believe they represent, what should be done about them, and who do we trust enough to work together in agreement in putting them to action. ALL is belief. And as man has demonstrated throughout history....when he works together, he can establish great empires. Of course, much of such work has always been accomplished by those he has enslaved. Much as today. Slavery still exists in grand fashion, and has never been more polished in it's execution. The major difference between the beleaguered empires of today vs. our ancestors, is that man now has the technological means to destroy our world in myriad ways and real quick like.
Fact is, man has always ended up dominating his fellow man to his own demise. He will overcome these fatal flaws in either Truly or falsely miraculous fashion, (and given the lateness of the hour and the writing on the wall, it would take a splendiferous string of them) or he will not.
We are now witnessing the calm before the storm. May we make the best use of it that we are able....and may Christ find us working what is good toward all upon His return.
'I will cut short those days for the sake of my elect, lest no flesh remain alive upon the earth.' - God
In the end, Tinman, you're right. You have your beliefs, I do too....as do we all. Your heart is in the right place and that's half the battle.
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How can one possibly go wrong leasing a good life helping others when you can and avoiding things harmful to other living creatures ?
If and when god writes a book I will be among the first inside reading.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on November 04, 2014, 01:42:10 AM
If and when god writes a book I will be among the first inside reading.
Regards...
GOD did just that, more than 20 years ago! Not just one but several.... but you have missed them!
Here is the link to the FIRST one so start reading!
http://www.universe-people.com/english/svetelna_knihovna/en_conversations_with_god_1.htm (http://www.universe-people.com/english/svetelna_knihovna/en_conversations_with_god_1.htm)
After only a few pages you will realize that the 'author' - Neale Donald Walsch - was only taking dictation!
The REAL author is none other than GOD!
Cheers,
Les Banki
Christ said that on the day of judgment, many will say to Him...."When did we feed you?" "When did we clothe you?" And I will say to them, "Insomuch as you have done these things to the least of these, my brothers, you have done so to me."
So I must agree with you here, Cap-Z-ro. How can one go wrong by living according to what you advocated? The problem is that we all fall short. We all fail from time to time. And despite our best efforts at picking one another up.....we collectively always end up falling hard. Only to start yet another grand empire. There are those who do not know Christ, that will be permitted into His kingdom, just as the thief who was crucified next to Him.
Christ taught us that Love, True love, is sacrifice, and that the greatest among any group, must be the 'least'. For only in selfless service to others is a True and Lasting peace found.
As for you being the first inside reading the book that God writes....I had to chuckle....as You are one of His books, as are we all. And the stories we tell!
" Thine eyes did see the embryo of me; And in thy book it's parts were all written, Even the days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was none of them."
It was only relatively recent that the DNA "code" was discovered. All your parts ARE down in writing. (and what miraculous parts they are!) And just as our Father says, even the hairs on your head are all numbered. According to our Father, He knows when even a sparrow hits the ground.
There was no assembled Bible during the lives of the characters contained therein. God said that we need not that any man teach us these things, and to the making of books there is no end, and devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh. He also said, "You have not because you ask not." Therefore, Keep on asking and these things shall be opened to you.
Devotion to even the Bible has proven wearisome to so many. Why? Because many prefer to walk cowardly behind any who rise to claim leadership and understanding of what was written, rather than develop a close Working Relationship to God Himself. Preferring instead to live in vagaries, in fear, and in the hopes of passing any potential personal blame on up a fictitious chain of "command".
According to Christ Himself, when all is said and done, many who read their bibles, go to "church" and proclaim their allegiance to Him, will be rejected.
"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'23"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS"
You see, Christ said that our Father's Law is inscribed upon the hearts of His children. And indeed, many a child has a better grasp on how to treat others than many an adult, who has wandered away from their own heart. I myself, have seen truly heartening displays of selflessness, sacrifice, and generosity from a wide variety of members of the animal kingdom....as even these ones have God's Law in their hearts.
http://www.examiner.com/article/a-new-empirical-understanding-of-the-heart-as-the-seat-of-emotion (http://www.examiner.com/article/a-new-empirical-understanding-of-the-heart-as-the-seat-of-emotion)
The Wisdom of God's Word is opened freely to those without understanding, but with an honest, humble heart. And but one of many wise sayings contained within, is this:
And He called a child to Himself and set him before them, 3and said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. 4"Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven....
A child is unpracticed in the ways of guile. He is teachable. He is not haughty, arrogant, and prideful unless taught by example these things. A child wants to know the answers to everything, yet harbors neither clever nor deceitful plans for what to do with them.
If you had the power to upload the characters from your, let's say, hypothetical, painstakingly realistic and detailed world simulation game into our "real" world, which would you choose? The children? Or the many jaded, disenfranchised, hardened, apathetic, adults.
By applying the "as a child" illustration in my daily life, I have learned well, that one of the most powerful revelations of the myriad contained in our Father's Word, is simply:
"You have not because you ask not."
And just as a child 'dings' their parents for what they want until they get it, we are advised by a much more Loving and Patient Father, to do the same to Him. It has long ago become my D.G.D. principle.
Ding God Daily.
And boy has it never failed. You want to truly test your God on His promises? Show Him your tenacity. He will Not Fail to show you just how much He really does Love you. Tenaciously. Amazingly.
I could write a book about all the absolutely unbelievable things He has done for me. Way beyond what most could permit themselves to believe. But who cares?
Try Him on His promises.
Then care about that. He does.
And there is no fine print to His Guarantee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo)
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Same old story: Basically if you're not a Christian you are wrong, you will be judged by God (someone up in the clouds sitting on a thrown), and will burn in hellfire forever eternally. But wait, he is Love and will give you the chance to repent and worship him (God/Jesus/Holy ghost) forever. So be good so you can be raptured before the tribulation and if you fail you'd still have one last change before God's kingdom descends onto earth.
Many signs and prophecies will take place in the end of times to prove this loving and merciful God.
If you heard this message regarding salvation and you deny it you will go to hell and if you never heard of this because you live in some remote island in a tribe somewhere where no one knows this God then you still will be judged and can possibly burn in hellfire forever.
Enjoy.. :-/
For the Spiritual Science side of things there is still hope for those who seek the Truth about God and such see The Ernest Holmes Collection:
http://newthoughtlibrary.com/holmesErnest
Science of Mind - 1926 (the Original) is specially a good read at least for me anyway.
Enjoy.. :-)
Here is another interesting source of information. One of many, which highlight the accuracy of God's Word. Written thousands of years before the advent of the telescope and Newtonian science, the text is a dialogue between our Creator and Job. Therein, scientific facts are revealed that were not in evidence to the humans of Job's day.
http://coldcasechristianity.com/2013/is-the-astronomy-in-the-book-of-job-scientifically-consistent/ (http://coldcasechristianity.com/2013/is-the-astronomy-in-the-book-of-job-scientifically-consistent/)
We humans are but slivers of our former, or perhaps future, selves. We can see a paltry 310 nanometer window of the vast EM spectrum. The same EM spectrum that is loosely called "Light", which encompasses much more than we are currently capable of experiencing. When our Creator said, "Let there be light" and "stretched out the expanse of the heavens, He wasn't kidding! The biblical account accurately narrates the creation of our reality. "Light" or the EM spectrum had to come first, just as revealed at the beginning of God's Word.
The strange interactions between entangled photons and other weird, but verifiable experiments that show, conclusively, that our reality is much more than we think it is, have only relatively recently begun to filter into the public eye in a meaningful way. Christ Himself described Earth's invisible hydrological cycle. Facts which remained for millennia to be rediscovered by man. At a time when the superstitious children of false gods believed that our planet rested upon the backs of 4 gigantic elephants who, in turn, stood upon the back of a giant sea turtle, or rested upon the back of a giant super human named, atlas, God's Word stood alone as correct. Once again, God's Word, shared the actual Truth, which was, millennia later, acknowledged as scientific fact.
https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/taking-back-astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/ (https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/taking-back-astronomy/the-universe-confirms-the-bible/)
As our world shakes, new cracks in her crust being found in diverse places around the world all the time now....As new volcanoes are popping up all over the world, many of them rising out from the bottom of earth's oceans....As new and wondrous signs in the heavens are being seen....As the planets, including Earth, shake in their orbits....and as the oceans produce tsunami and rogue wave warnings like never before in recorded history....and the peoples of earth cry out for peace, peace! Amidst wars and rumors of wars....
Remember that He warned You for a reason.
And that reason was not to have you confused, but to give you a perfect Hope that He is Who He said He is. And His Son is Who He said He is....
The Way, the Truth and the Life.
As we are busy, scurrying ever about, doing what we humans do best...take to heart the many evidences from our Father. For as we do our best to prepare for what lay ahead, what do you think His angels are doing?
Greater things.
The same things we'll be doing someday in the not too distant future....perhaps. Things that will put the world's best thinkers, scientists, engineer's chins to their chests, their upper eyelids to their eyebrows, and their knees to the ground.
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QuoteSame old story: Basically if you're not a Christian you are wrong, you will be judged by God (someone up in the clouds sitting on a thrown), and will burn in hellfire forever eternally.
The same old story is what many among institutionalized 'churchianity' seem to teach. Then of course, we have the media, virtually a wholly owned subsidiary of satan himself that promotes that 'same old story'. How else do you think that a satanic cabal has risen to power in most countries of the world today, exactly as forewarned by Christ long ago by our measure?
http://www.henrymakow.com/lucifers_chosen_people.html (http://www.henrymakow.com/lucifers_chosen_people.html)
http://www.texemarrs.com/121997/devil_companies_devil_logos.htm (http://www.texemarrs.com/121997/devil_companies_devil_logos.htm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa4nsCYzM1w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa4nsCYzM1w)
I could, of course, include a mountain of further evidence, and have done so in the past. Suffice it to say, our Father's Word has proven correct time and time again. Regardless of one's ideologies, wants, needs, wishes, etc....the Truth is that we are all part of this reality. And the reality is, there exists a W-A-R greater than any other man has faced, raging for the hearts, minds, souls, and futures of all men, women, and children on the planet. There are only two sides and the middle to this war. Christ said, "I would have you hot or cold, for if you be lukewarm, I will spew you from my mouth". His friend or His enemy. Makes perfect sense to me. For just as walking the center line of the highway will get one hit by traffic going both directions, or standing in the middle of a firefight on the battlefield will get one hit from fire in both directions...the middle of any battle is the most dangerous place to be. And sitting, hiding, or trying to skate about in the easiest manner possible in this life IS THE MIDDLE. And it is these who end up suffering the greatest for their cowardice. Out of confusion or panic, many are too paralyzed to stand for what they should believe in. Preferring instead to deny all 'beliefs' in favor of living out these short, precious gifts, called LIVES, out of instinct like many creature among the animal kingdom.
Yet, those who have sincerely studied our Father's Word can see the the Truth is that God would prefer it if ALL could be saved through obedience to sound doctrine or repentance. Realistically however, given that we are created with free will, some will choose a path outside the bounds of what is required for consideration for inclusion in His kingdom.
Why is it that the "same old story" has become so ubiquitous despite it's inaccuracies? Is it wise to judge God by those who falsely claim to represent Him or mistranslate His Word?
Christ welcomed the thief, a stranger, next to Him at His crucifixion, into His kingdom. Does this sound like a maniacal tyrant? He taught only LOVE while He lived on this earth. Sure, His message included the fact that many will choose the side of evil and perish. True enough! But not that they would be tormented forever. They will serve appropriate time for their crimes against God and their fellow men, and then be either saved or destroyed at our Father's Discretion.
Our Father's Word also states that on the day of Judgment, people will be forgiven for ALL MANNER of sins, save one. Blasphemy against His Holy Spirit. It's much easier to set low goals for one's self, preferring to mix it up a bit in this life. So, how has mankind managed with such a revolving door of past and future mistakes?
Christ came to show us the way out of our reciprocal mess. Yes, He has limits. Yes, many will perish. Yes, He will judge His creation.
http://dedeswalkwithgod.com/Gods_Recall_Notice.html (http://dedeswalkwithgod.com/Gods_Recall_Notice.html)
But not without love. Not without hearing both sides of every story. You see, being our Creator, He has a perfect understanding of our motivations. He knows what is in our hearts much better than we do. Most of us are unaware of who we truly are until we are tested. It is then that we surprise ourselves in many ways.
One is entitled to believe whatever suits them regarding our Creator.
And one may believe whatever suits them regarding His enemies. Time to change suits, I'd say.
There is only one commandment in the satanic bible. "Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law." How has such methodology worked out for the world?
As the world prepares to go it's way.....once again....we are reminded that All is belief.
Choose Wisely Whom it is that you will serve.
But SERVE!
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P.S. It is the strength and accuracy of belief that determines much before action is even taken. For if one strongly believes wrongly, then more damaged is the outcome. And if one weakly believes rightly, they may not act at all. Either way, loss occurs. However, if one has placed their faith upon The Rock....then one can weather any storm.
Quote from: Spirit on November 04, 2014, 04:04:48 AM
Same old story: Basically if you're not a Christian you are wrong, you will be judged by God (someone up in the clouds sitting on a thrown), and will burn in hellfire forever eternally. But wait, he is Love and will give you the chance to repent and worship him (God/Jesus/Holy ghost) forever. So be good so you can be raptured before the tribulation and if you fail you'd still have one last change before God's kingdom descends onto earth.
Many signs and prophecies will take place in the end of times to prove this loving and merciful God.
If you heard this message regarding salvation and you deny it you will go to hell and if you never heard of this because you live in some remote island in a tribe somewhere where no one knows this God then you still will be judged and can possibly burn in hellfire forever.
Enjoy.. :-/
You're wrong.
None of the non-Christians that have died the last millions of years has never reported that they have got to hell and burned.
God is a man made fantacy that is used to force people to follow given rules.
Christianity has little to do with God. Christianity comes from Jesus Christ, who taught us to be good to eachother. HIS example is the one everyone should follow - not a punishing God. However, wealth, money, and fancy cars got in the way, so most of us do not longer follow his example.
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QuoteGod is a man made fantacy that is used to force people to follow given rules.
It is man whose fantasies have failed him. Time and again. He cannot agree upon standards of mutually beneficial social interaction for long without chaos getting in the way.
Sure, "religion" has been one of the handiest tools for "opportunistic" types to gain mastery over their fellow man. Just as we were warned in God's Word would happen. But it is hardly the only method by which to do so. Consider all the blood spilled, mayhem endured, and other wasteful strife initiated at the hands of the godless as well! One hardly needs to invoke God, to kill or mislead his fellow man.
God is judged harshly only by those who've already judged themselves and their fellow men by their own faulty standards, or misinterpreted, or intentionally twisted those of God.
If man were allowed to continue to prey upon his fellow man as he has always done, but now with the technology to obliterate the world over many times, he would eventually, if he survived at all, come to realize a system of social law and order similar to that of God's. For God's Way is the only way to a kingdom that lasts. Love is mutually beneficial, nurturing. It Grows. Hate, obviously, destroys, and tears down. Children can grasp this. Yet empires have risen and fallen from the beginning on through today. And many blame the Designer of the cosmos for our own failings. Man has proven that, collectively, he is much more accomplished at giving excuses than he is at giving his all for the benefit of others. Christ said that the greatest among you, must be the least. What a contrast to the disgusting poly-ticks of today.
Of course God would hold man to a higher standard than the meandering minimum base line moral standards man often fashions for himself. Often at a moment's notice. Holding to God's standard is the only way to obtain a kingdom that L-A-S-T-S.
There is only one commandment in the satanic bible. One. "Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law". How many today live their lives knowingly or unknowingly, by this single, foolish, rebellious, chaotic notion?
I'd say that our Creator is obviously much more loving, understanding and caring than many permit themselves to realize, elsewise, what was this once Island paradise for? One can count upon the fingers of one hand, enough compelling reasons to be grateful to our Creator, so as to inspire one to higher reasoning.
Yet mankind denies innumerable compelling reasons through his lifetime. When Christ spoke of the earth's largely invisible hydrological cycle, When God asked Job if he could unbind the sweet influences of the Pleiades, a gravitationally locked star system, not discovered to be so until the advent of the modern telescope,.....the list goes on and on that God IS REAL. He loves His creation. And He would prefer that ALL could be saved through obedience to His Just and Reasonable Law and meaningful repentance through His Son, Jesus Christ, for wrong doing.
Remember, the Ones Who came before us, He who designed us down to the smallest particle, obviously has mastered the dynamics of getting along.....and for a VERY long time.
We pipsqueaks who have a hard time untying our muddy boots, after stomping about all over God's carpet, would do well to make amends with our Maker with the time remaining by which to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPXK2Ls-xzQ)
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i thought the whole idea of this forum is to achieve overunity through collaboration and sharing ideas. Since when did this website turn into a religious discussion?
lol....Madeo. Your puerile observation belies your bias. For as anyone can see, a single, relatively rare topic regarding "Faith", on the site hardly qualifies as "turning the website into a religious discussion."
Run for the hills, Techstuf is using the "F" word!
I would point out that, as of yet, the entire discussion of "Overunity" has been motivated by faith. Simply put, those that frequent this site either 'believe' that it will, or 'believe' that it wont eventuate, and the vast majority of comments reflect these beliefs. The site is perennially littered with the latest finds among the hopeful, the data or lack thereof analyzed both by those expecting to either prove or disprove the evidence presented. And who doesn't want to be free from the shackles of those who've allowed absolute power to corrupt, absolutely?
I have presented evidence that, I 'believe' proves that mankind, and indeed our current reality, was highly engineered, rather than crapped or vomited instantaneously into existence by a deaf, dumb and blind "mother nature". The prophecies and promises of our Creator, unfolding timely and accurately.
Given that the MASSIVE and GROWING mountain of evidence that we are Created, is not going away, and that the single regurgitated chorus against such evidence comes from those whose fervently faithful and ultimate response seems to be....Once upon a time, there was nothing, then "Bang", there was everything....
It perhaps behooves one to seek a better footing from which to observe facts in evidence than the increasingly shaky ground of circular logic and intellectual cowardice. I mean, one can argue the origins of self reproducing nano electric motors, complete with stator, rotor, bushings, drive shaft, universal joint, propeller, sensors switches....til one is blue in the face. Or discuss the finer points of upright, bipedal motor proteins hiking up and down instantly self assembling highways, hauling needed cargo to and fro among the structures of the veritable cities that comprise each of one's trillions of blood cells....to no end. But what's the point without meaningful perspective?
The point is, regardless of one's motives, there are binding ties among ALL faiths, all points of 'belief' on the globe, which are inescapable. So, to trot out the well worn, "I see mention of "God" on a single thread topic, therefore I will parade my prejudice by declaring that Stefan's entire website is turning into a "religious discussion", gets a bit old in a world that is already teetering from the suicides and homicides of "Faith" now running rampant, and were foretold to occur.
The strength and accuracy of your beliefs are ALL that you have. And how does one become strong and accurate at anything? With practice. ALL of us in this life struggle with the same problems to widely varying degree. Beliefs, whether they be scientific, political, economic, social, religious, etc....change. And those changes always and without fail, indicate a change for the positive or change for the negative. Some use up the entirety of their lives, vacillating between the two, never getting very far on their particular path to greater understanding. Who among us cannot name some one that they know or have heard of, who didn't spend a large amount of their lives sitting at a bar stool?
Well, to some, a supposedly Christian mega-church is a large, corporate, conglomerate bar stool. And one can say the same about virtually any culture or sub culture centered around shared beliefs. Our beliefs about each other on this beleaguered world, our beliefs in each other, against each other, are either rewarded with Wisdom, or penalized with doubt and foolishness.
That is how it has always been.
There is an old saying, and I paraphrase, "Those who won't remember the mistakes of the past, are doomed to repeat them"
Well what happens when the planet is co-opted by those who specialize in revising history, such that those mistakes are purposely erased or edited in public perception via covet means, those in power keenly remembering, and usurping technology by leaps and bounds?
The recipe for a disaster the world has never seen, nor will again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafZkjiMpjU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafZkjiMpjU)
Does one think that the One Who made the reality we share, isn't aware of our incomparably precarious condition? He Knows.
http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm (http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm)
And He wants you to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs)
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=10749 (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=10749)
http://ojgraham.com/SixPointedStar.htm (http://ojgraham.com/SixPointedStar.htm)
http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/temple.canada.jpg (http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/temple.canada.jpg)
One of the most expensive and supposedly 'scientific' projects in history, the large hadron collider at CERN....it too cannot escape "religion"! Their logo contains the number 6-6-6. The statue of the the hindu god of destruction, shiva, right on the property. See for yourselves the extent of the growth of those who worship satan, yet hide behind the cloak of 'science' and "rational thinking"....
http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/logo666.shtml (http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/logo666.shtml)
Who can argue with God's Word, proven so accurate over the ages? Did He not identify who would be in power in our day, just before the end of man's inhumanity to man? The New Heavens and New Earth?
The whole of God's Law hangs upon 2 simple, yet so misunderstood and maligned principles.
1.) Love your Creator, our Father, with your whole heart, soul, mind, body, and strength.
2.) Love your fellow man as yourself.
Too late, many will come to the realization that God IS LOVE. And not just the easy, "your actions at this moment have warmed My heart", kind. But the tough love, "your ongoing actions have repeatedly injured others and have angered me, and I am going to remove my protection from your next fork in the road, that you may learn a tough but valuable lesson", kind.
Judging by the view count, Madeo, you are at least a bit premature in your disingenuous insinuation that Stefan's website is turning into a religious discussion.
It is, however, a discussion rapidly growing in popularity the world over. And it should be no surprise, really. All discussions are 'religious' in nature to some degree, and more than many will permit themselves to realize....for the moment.
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hmmm, you should really read your own posts and see if it is relevant to Overunity. If your faith can achieve COP > 1, then I wouldn't argue, but i'm pretty sure it is UNDERunity just like the rest of us here.
Quotehmmm, you should really read your own posts and see if it is relevant to Overunity.
Yes, I've considered the notion. Perhaps, you might consider reading topic titles and the forum sections in which they are posted before disappointing yourself with their contents. Just a suggestion.
And you've never discussed a topic non-relevant to an online forum? Really? If not, then I suggest stepping back a bit for perspective. You know what they say about a young man with his nose too close to the grindstone...
A little topic deviation now and then, is relished by the wisest men. - Willy Wonka aphorism
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