Hai, Now I will show more detail how u can make it easy,
Its gnertor running for 1500rpm, have 4 pole stator winding, 4 magnet ( elctromgnetic ) and 4 spin rotor iron.
syairchairun
Thank You
I shared this at another forum
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19851-topic-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning.html#post267026 (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19851-topic-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning.html#post267026)
there are good fellows there too.
Respectfully
ChetKremens@gmail.com
ps I have not had any luck with your Email
PPS
There is one more forum discussing this too [OUR friend Matt started the topic there]
here
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2678.msg43005;topicseen#msg43005
:)
Syairchairun,
Thank you for posting your findings here on this community, can you tell us that the Holder Magnet? is made of? If we could get this replicated as quickly as possible, this may be the game changer we have all been waiting for.
don't kill the dipole
I think it is move in good direction, though Figuera just moved copper coils :P , without drag
It would be nice to see some internal pictures of the 100 RPM generator.
Hi Syairchairun,
Thank you for sharing.
This is an interesting design using the outer case as a flux path with the magnets internal creates an inverted Gramme ring type generator.
Are the poles N-S-N-S around the center?
Do you think this could be built with an alternator?
Maybe two sized alternators one slightly larger than the other take the rotor from the small one so you have the magnets already. Then all you have to do is make a new iron spaced rotor to fit between fixed magnet(small rotor) and outer coils of the larger alternator. This may reduce the expense on the magnets.
Another generator of similar design is this patent, except the flux doesn't flow around the ring as in your design:
US 7327061 - AC generator and method
https://www.google.com/patents/US7327061
Quote"The invention may achieve good efficiency as secondary magnetic fields created by induction of current interfere little with the primary magnetic fields. This benefit has a secondary benefit in that stronger magnets may be able to be used than in conventional generators due to the reduced effect of secondary magnetic fields. In some embodiments, various methods of adjustment may be provided that allow the generator to have increased efficiency due to reduction in air gaps between the commutators and bars and/or magnets."
Thanks Syairchairun starting my build today. [/size]
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Hello syairchairun
Thanks for posting your most interesting generator build here for us to see.
I have a question:
Quote from: syairchairun on November 11, 2014, 08:46:59 AM
Hai, Now I will show more detail how u can make it easy,
Its gnertor running for 1500rpm, have 4 pole stator winding, 4 magnet ( elctromgnetic ) and 4 spin rotor iron.
You mention that the 4 magnets are electro magnets, can you tell me how you are energizing/activating them as the generator turns?
Is there a reason you recommend electro magnets over permanent magnets?
Is the Holder Magnet made from Aluminum also? It would need to be made from a conductive material for the poles to switch phase (180 degrees phase shift) and assist the rotation of the rotor instead of opposing it (rotation).
I assume that conductive and yet *not* magnetic material is the key here for the Holder Magnet.
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to wrap my head around this.
Take care, peace
lost_bro
@ All
Email did go thru this time .
of course will post all here.
thx
ChetKremens@gmail.com
I think the most obvious question here is what is the generator or motor that was modified to create this design if there was one. If we had a model number we would all have some place to start. Or at least a manufacturer.
Dave
Dont believe Ive seen which poles are which on the mags. If 2 were N and 2 were S facing out, cogging would be nearly impossible to turn the thing. But, if all are say N or S out, when the iron portions go between the mags and coils, they just may be repelled a bit instead of attracted. The moving iron parts have a magnetic path to each other. Like poles repel.
So there can be a balance there. Say we had a 1 in by 1/2 in by 1/2 in iron bar. Put a small mag(N) on one end, then another at the other end, both N in. They will stick. But the bigger the mags are, the less stick there will be till the mags as you try larger ones will repel from the iron bar. ;) ;) ;) So there can be magnetic switching this way without great cogging effects.
Mags
This units internal configuration bears remarkable similarities to the Wen Shum Ho
Self Running Magnetic Motor. Which was diagrammed completely on the web at one
time. It used a bowl of damping fluid to perpendicularlize the vibrating
magnetic motion of a mechanical eccentric into rotary motion.
Web Link;
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator
Quote from: Dbowling on November 12, 2014, 12:20:26 AM
I think the most obvious question here is what is the generator or motor that was modified to create this design if there was one. If we had a model number we would all have some place to start. Or at least a manufacturer.
Pretty certain it is an ST type, like the following:
http://mindumotor.en.made-in-china.com/productimage/qSdEWxAcZPkN-2f1j00DjfaevsgLKkA/China-100-Copper-Wire-2kw-75kw-St-Stc-Alternator-Prices-with-ISO9001-Certificate.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10KW-ST-Generator-Head-1-Phase-for-Diesel-or-Gas-Engine-60Hz-/331362857668?pt=BI_Generators&hash=item4d26c3f2c4
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ST-STC-series-Single-three-phase_405415884.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb2GUiV8Bf0&list=PL9lN82Fv_KyXbRPImaD74M6ucsQIMO3fr&index=3
maybe sane principle but using ac instead of magnet
Good Evening All:
I offer this as food for thought:
Tesla Patent #390,721
You will note that using a Quadrature generated field and *4* poles, the armature (rotor) will rotate.
This technique is used to rotate a motor with said field *and* with same technique to generate the rotating (quadrature) field.......
Only *4* poles, but the fields (magnetic) generated propagate, following the sine wave(s) of the rotating field.
Take care, peace
lost_bro