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Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: veproject1 on December 27, 2014, 05:28:25 PM

Title: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: veproject1 on December 27, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
The last hit of the passing year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbVueMI1_g
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: MarkE on December 27, 2014, 05:51:54 PM
That's a cute trick.
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: TinselKoala on December 27, 2014, 06:09:56 PM
I love veproject!

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: dieter on December 27, 2014, 09:12:49 PM
Remarkable, how much this guy (you?) invests in all these fake perpetuum mobiles. What is the intension? To make fools out of anyone who tries to discover new energy sources in his garage workshop? It kind of appears that way.


Although I respect the construction skills, I also find it a bit of a decadent waste of time and money. But of cource the man can do what he wants. Still, what does he want here?


BTW i have personally constructed a working atmospheric motor. Not fast or strong, but working.


Peace

Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: MarkE on December 27, 2014, 09:21:30 PM
Quote from: dieter on December 27, 2014, 09:12:49 PM
Remarkable, how much this guy (you?) invests in all these fake perpetuum mobiles. What is the intension? To make fools out of anyone who tries to discover new energy sources in his garage workshop? It kind of appears that way.


Although I respect the construction skills, I also find it a bit of a decadent waste of time and money. But of cource the man can do what he wants. Still, what does he want here?


BTW i have personally constructed a working atmospheric motor. Not fast or strong, but working.


Peace
I think what they do is quite remarkable in skill and imagination.  They do not make false representations that the devices really do what they appear to do. 

For people who enjoy puzzles they offer lots of food for thought, and opportunities to hone observation and reasoning skills.  For people who get easily excited whenever someone makes an extraordinary claim, they offer good examples of why one should be careful about their assumptions.  For people who enjoy illusions, they put on a good show.

Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: orbut 3000 on December 28, 2014, 01:30:35 AM
I wonder how many people(the likes of TK and ME) are actually paid to watch and enjoy those videoes to make them more popular.
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: MarkE on December 28, 2014, 01:33:47 AM
Quote from: orbut 3000 on December 28, 2014, 01:30:35 AM
I wonder how many people(the likes of TK and ME) are actually paid to watch and enjoy those videoes to make them more popular.
Get the Sony hackers to find pay stubs.
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: TinselKoala on December 28, 2014, 06:39:11 AM
Quote from: orbut 3000 on December 28, 2014, 01:30:35 AM
I wonder how many people(the likes of TK and ME) are actually paid to watch and enjoy those videoes to make them more popular.

This sounds like a claim or accusation that I am somehow paid to watch and enjoy videos such as those from veproject.

You cannot support such a claim or accusation with any evidence. Do you know what that makes YOU, orbut 3000? It makes you a blowhard false claimant, IOW a liar.  That is, if you are actually making such a claim or accusation, with your weasel-worded "wondering".

Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: conradelektro on December 28, 2014, 07:23:10 AM
It has nothing to do with the atmosphere, but it demonstrates how wrong one can be if scientific facts are not understood:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMpdBjA2SU&

Generations of anti gravity wheel "inventors" could have saved a lot of time and money if they had watched these two videos.

One could make similar videos for

- permanent magnet motors

- buoyancy machines

- Lenz forth preventers

and so on (all popular OU concepts).

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: ramset on December 28, 2014, 08:25:43 AM
Conrad
seems like your in the right place.....


Tinsel
I took Orb's comment as sarcastic  or disingenuous ...
poking fun at the "Paid disinfo people "


thats my take ,But it does highlight the language issue which has been here since day one
its not always easy to communicate in all the worlds tongues ...
thx
Chet
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: TinselKoala on December 28, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Uh-huh.
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: MileHigh on December 28, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
I've got all my money on Gap-Power.com!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnWuPzAKigs

I also proclaim my love for Teri Garr!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lssbUjAMspE
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: Pirate88179 on December 28, 2014, 12:30:58 PM
Veproject1 shows some excellent videos of some very creatively designed devices.  Most of them show a lot of effort required in the builds.

My only problem with this type of thing is that, when you read some of the comments on their channel, you can see that some folks think these devices really work as they appear.  We have, and will continue to have, folks posting some of these videos on a topic here as "proof" that overunity exists.

Same thing when Lasersaber did his April Fools videos...so many people thought he was being serious.

Folks will argue that this is real and being suppressed by the powers that be, big oil, etc.

Other than that, the videos are fantastic.

Bill
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: TinselKoala on December 28, 2014, 04:57:57 PM
I see nothing wrong with that. It makes a great filter. Anyone can go to Veproject's website, read for a few minutes and find out what it is all about. The people who don't do that, and who repost one or another of those great demonstrations because they believe they are really showing violations of natural laws, are showing you something about themselves that is quite significant, I think. So I for one applaud Veproject's work without reservation and I eagerly look forward to seeing more. I especially like their reproductions of historical devices like the Redheffer Perpetual Motion.
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: Pirate88179 on December 28, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: TinselKoala on December 28, 2014, 04:57:57 PM
I see nothing wrong with that. It makes a great filter. Anyone can go to Veproject's website, read for a few minutes and find out what it is all about. The people who don't do that, and who repost one or another of those great demonstrations because they believe they are really showing violations of natural laws, are showing you something about themselves that is quite significant, I think. So I for one applaud Veproject's work without reservation and I eagerly look forward to seeing more. I especially like their reproductions of historical devices like the Redheffer Perpetual Motion.

I agree, with the exception of where someone downloads and reposts the video without the information, which I think leads to a bunch of viewers thinking it is for real.  Some of those folks end up over here, ha ha.  I believe the video with the wheel and the ball bearing inside the radius turning when a magnet was placed near the O.D. of the wheel started a bit of a controversy here on one of the topics...of course, the poster would not believe it was not for real and the rest of us were paid shills.

There are many of those videos that I can not think of how they are doing it...very creative as I said.  That would include the video posted for this topic.  Just think of how much money those guys could raise at gofundme, or wherever, if they were not open about what they were doing?

I am not criticizing Veproject at all with my concerns.  They can't stop or control what others do with their material. 

I have never visited their website.  Do they ever do a "tell all" and show how they make some of those devices appear to be working?  That would be cool to see.  I suppose I can check.

Bill

E.T.A.: http://www.veproject1.org/ (http://www.veproject1.org/)

Here is a link to their website.  It is really cool!
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: dieter on December 28, 2014, 05:41:41 PM
Conrad, they could have saved time and money, but it wasn't their intension to waste it. They may be naive, but they were just experimenting, which is the most important part of inventing, as some great inventors have shown us. By repeating the dogmata of theoretical science there can be no progress.


Besides, who's to say all that ever could be invented is already invented. There are phenomena of free energy, overunity, zero point energy which simply are indisputable.


I may ignore a couple of notorious sceptics, but I sure do not ignore the existence of said phenomena.


Peace
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: Pirate88179 on December 28, 2014, 05:54:14 PM
Quote from: dieter on December 28, 2014, 05:41:41 PM


There are phenomena of free energy, overunity, zero point energy which simply are indisputable.



Peace

Dieter:

Would you mind naming just one that has been proven?

Thank you,

Bill
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: Farmhand on December 28, 2014, 10:58:28 PM
Since I've already read orbut's posts before I could tell immediately orbut was being sarcastic in the post.

I don't like veroproject because I get a bad vibe about them, they are neither here nor there, they admit nothing and tell nothing.
How does that teach ? Anyone with half a brain can see all thier builds are fakes. To me they are defunct or obsolete. A mere
distraction for some.

..
Title: Re: Perpetual Atmospheric Engine
Post by: Pirate88179 on December 28, 2014, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: Farmhand on December 28, 2014, 10:58:28 PM
Since I've already read orbut's posts before I could tell immediately orbut was being sarcastic in the post.

I don't like veroproject because I get a bad vibe about them, they are neither here nor there, they admit nothing and tell nothing.
How does that teach ? Anyone with half a brain can see all thier builds are fakes. To me they are defunct or obsolete. A mere
distraction for some.

..

Farmhand:

Actually, on their website, they say that they use motors in their projects to simulate real working devices. (Or words to that effect)  I was going to copy and paste the exact wording here but, it says the website is temporarily unavailable.

Bill