To get to the bottom of it start at about 28 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WxIT8-gahYc
At about 56 minutes, Sterling claims that he is "a scape goat for humanity".
At 1:15 or so he blames the child for consent. Sterling chooses to ignore: C H I L D R E N.. A R E ..I N C A P A B L E.. O F.. C O N S E N T. Unbelievable. This is not the first time for Sterling. He published years ago his plans to run away with a 14 year old when he was about 30.
WTF?
I watched and skipped through about as much as I could take. What has he resigned from?
Thanks,
Bill
PS Found it here: http://pesn.com//2014/12/21/9602586_Sterling-Resigning-from-NEST/ (http://pesn.com//2014/12/21/9602586_Sterling-Resigning-from-NEST/)
NEST, NEM, and NEC. I also see a post where he is asking for donations to pay his taxes so he does not go to jail. Holy cow. Maybe we will see Sterling moving to Morocco?
Its a sad day,
There is no excuse for a pedophile, and claiming to be God in the flesh in no excuse.
Its a sad end to an era.
Kind Regards
Mark
Yes, I do not see how PESN is going to carry on unless someone else takes it over. I don't know who would be prepared to do that given that everything they have promoted has washed out.
He is also now asking people to fund him.
I am totally convinced the world has gone nuts
Mark
Quote from: markdansie on December 31, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
He is also now asking people to fund him.
I am totally convinced the world has gone nuts
Mark
The dependence on donations has been an ongoing condition at PESN, particularly since they went rabid purging unbelievers. That's business as usual. If people want to give Sterling/PESN money I think that is between them and Sterling. I give Sterling credit for disclosing before an arrest.
I am disgusted that he deflects blame to: the child, provocative clothing and commercials. To me that says that he is not taking responsibility for the fact that he has harmed a child. IMO, if there is any duty that adults have it is to protect the innocent. I don't know if Sterling acted on his "lust addiction" that apparently caused his divorce in Florida or Utah. The age of consent in both states is 18 with some allowance for relations between minors. Sterling's age puts him way outside the exceptions to statutory rape in either state. Sterling says the parents are livid. I can imagine. The thought of their daughter getting caught up with someone three times her age must be a complete nightmare for them and their daughter.
Wow. Given the evidence, it would seem he has laid much groundwork for a potential insanity defense.
It appears that the roman catholic church doesn't hold the monopoly on institutionally systemic pedophilia and corruption, as the rather lengthy spate of news items in the media would have us believe. Not to mention the latest statistics on members of congress, members of the military, or any group these days that are given positions of power over others.
Who among us has not read story after story multiplying in the press for the last decade at least, regarding these kinds of violations. Here is a news item fresh in the headlines, which reveals once again that vigilance is often the only way left for the people to receive even a chance 'hope' of 'justice' in the face of such widespread systemic corruption...
https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2014/12/28/grief-and-anger-at-scene-of-fatal-bike-crash/ (https://www.baltimorebrew.com/2014/12/28/grief-and-anger-at-scene-of-fatal-bike-crash/)
Power corrupts. One has only to look at the tiled mosaics on the walls of what remains of Pompeii to see how far such lustful corruptions may be taken before our Creator's enduring patience reaches it's limit. One has only to look upon the remains of Sodom & Gomorrah, littered with ash, ionized marble, granite and sandstone strata, and innumerable 'brimstone', pure sulfur nodules, more pure than any others found in nature....or the remains of Noah's Ark which are still visible today, to see that His Justice is final. And once He reaches the limit of His patience, His way of 'cleaning house' leaves no room for argument.
http://arkdiscovery.com/dtimes-1.htm (http://arkdiscovery.com/dtimes-1.htm)
http://arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm (http://arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm)
http://www.contentedtraveller.com/pompeii-hedonism-personified/#comment-38157 (http://www.contentedtraveller.com/pompeii-hedonism-personified/#comment-38157)
We humans can be a fickle bunch. It's often easier to decry a God that seems too patient, too unwilling to 'get involved' and take out the bad guys, than to look in the mirror. But then, many decry a God that got involved and was 'too harsh' on the bad guys.
The point is, we all take our turn at being the 'bad guy' to widely varying degree. We are all in need of 'saving'. We've proven time and again, that when power is put in our hands, we soon turn to abusing it both individually at times, and collectively toward the end. (Of each and every empire so far, I mean.) Empirically speaking, (small pun) Mankind always ends up Royally trapped between the Rock and a hard place.
We keep choosing the hard place, because we assume too much. Too much power, too much of ourselves, too little of others, etc.
"The greatest among you must be the least" - Jesus Christ
They don't call them 'power trips' for nothing. I've never caused much trouble by being too humble. But most every problem that I've caused for myself and others involved me 'assuming too much'.
One of the reasons Christ said that the meek shall inherit the earth, is because the pompous could only end up destroying it. Too many have confused the word, 'meek' for 'weak'.
And in a world that idolizes the supposed strong and powerful, the meek are often misjudged entirely for their apparent lack of strength.
"The first shall be last and the last shall be first" - Jesus Christ
Quote from: markdansie on December 31, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
He is also now asking people to fund him.
I am totally convinced the world has gone nuts
Mark
How long have we been trying to tell people that Sterling is a couple of cows short in the top paddock Mark?-to many times as i recall. But even this has shocked me--i didnt realise the whole herd was missing.
@Pirate: Bill, he's not worried about going to jail over the taxes... he's worried about incarceration because of the acted-out pedophilia. I don't know what he thinks he's accomplishing by this disgusting rationalizing "confession". The segment from about minute 28 thru minute 42 is one of the creepiest things I've ever heard in non-fiction. He says that pedophiles get "ten times the sentencing they actually deserve" and of course he's worried about how he'll be treated if (when) he is sent up. And he calls the event, whatever it actually was, consensual! But it didn't involve "penetration"! Well whoopty-doo, so he's not copping to actual *r a p e* of a minor. What a relief that must be.
Quote from: markdansie on December 31, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
He is also now asking people to fund him.
I am totally convinced the world has gone nuts
Mark
Not the whole world, Mark. Some of us are aware of the good works you perform in your corner of this mad mad world. You have helped more people, in real material ways, than Sterling ever has done with his cynical fake religious instruction and his messianic rantings. The very real good that people like you do more than offsets the ineffectual craziness of people like Sterling Allan.
Quote from: tinman on December 31, 2014, 07:54:23 AM
How long have we been trying to tell people that Sterling is a couple of cows short in the top paddock Mark?-to many times as i recall. But even this has shocked me--i didnt realise the whole herd was missing.
It seems the whole herd contracted mad cow disease. What is really remarkable to me is that nowhere in that two hour video does he say he is sorry that he hurt the child. He does not even seem to acknowledge that he hurt her. He blames her for "consenting". Children cannot consent. They do not have the capacity. He seems only "sorry" that he faces what he thinks will be inordinate punishment.
Quite true
A child can not be held accountable for their actions when influenced by the mind of a much older and wiser man, a man with an agenda....
yeeeesh...
Quote from: markdansie on December 31, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
He is also now asking people to fund him.
I am totally convinced the world has gone nuts
Mark
That also really blown my mind away...
Its a big shock to hear and read this about and from Sterling.
Never ever thought that about him.
Steve
Man I could beat the living sh*t out of Sterling in a religious debate. I'm not buying *anything* he says. Hopefully the thing of value
here the PESN file archive isn't held hostage. I'm not sure it could be even held on a shelf, but I'll bet one could be arranged.
When is this guy going to start holding peoples feet to the fire, they are damaging more folks positions then just his.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Quote from: mscoffman on December 31, 2014, 03:35:41 PM
Man I could beat the living sh*t out of Sterling in a religious debate. I'm not buying *anything* he says. Hopefully the thing of value
here the PESN file archive isn't held hostage. I'm not sure it could be even held on a shelf, but I'll bet one could be arranged.
When is this guy going to start holding peoples feet to the fire, they are damaging more folks positions then just his.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Backing it up to a couple of independent drives or storage services would be prudent.
It takes balls to go and admit to be a pedophile. Sure it is shocking, disgusting, disappointing. But you have to see the diffrence between his way to go public and the way most other pedophiles handle it.
He is totally right about the NWO elite. using esp. pedophilia to blackmail their agents. Such a weakness is in fact a handy precondition to choose a guy for becoming a celeb, politician, judge, leader, for sudden, miraclous success in a rocket carreer. Most of them would rather massmurder than to be exposed as pedophile in the media, because they'd lose not only their career, wealth, but also their friends, familily and freedom. Big frightening shame, just around the corner.
See also case "Dutrout".
When you read Springmeier then you realize that ritual child abuse is often committed in order to perpetuate this sociopathy, and one day the abused become the abusers.
Going public like Sterling means he cannot be blackmailed, and parents can keep their kids away from him.
When it comes to Sex, Free Energy People are like the Rest, we got straight, gay, trans, pedo, etc, and it has nothing to do with technology.
I don't like pedos, but Sterling handles it as good as one can.
So slow down with the torch.
Quote from: dieter on December 31, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
It takes balls to go and admit to be a pedophile. Sure it is shocking, disgusting, disappointing. But you have to see the diffrence between his way to go public and the way most other pedophiles handle it.
I give Sterling credit for making his admission instead of it coming out as a police report.
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He is totally right about the NWO elite. using esp. pedophilia to blackmail their agents. Such a weakness is in fact a handy precondition to choose a guy for becoming a celeb, politician, judge, leader, for sudden, miraclous success in a rocket carreer. Most of them would rather massmurder than to be exposed as pedophile in the media, because they'd lose not only their career, wealth, but also their friends, familily and freedom. Big frightening shame, just around the corner.
See also case "Dutrout".
When you read Springmeier then you realize that ritual child abuse is often committed in order to perpetuate this sociopathy, and one day the abused become the abusers.
Going public like Sterling means he cannot be blackmailed, and parents can keep their kids away from him.
That's all true. The last part is the most important. I wonder if his banning from Mormon property had anything to do with this. It happened after his divorce that he said was spurred by what he euphemistically calls his "lust addiction". His issues are long standing. He posted to one of his sites years ago that he had almost "run away" with a then 14 year old. He would have been about 30 at the time the girl was 14. The incident occurred before he got married and had kids. I hope that he has not harmed any of his kids. I hope that his actions do not cause permanent harm to the girl involved.
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When it comes to , Free Energy People are like the Rest, we got straight, gay, trans, pedo, etc, and it has nothing to do with technology.
Only transgender vegan dolphins have the necessary intellect. Or is that Nancy Pelosi's constituency?
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I don't like pedos, but Sterling handles it as good as one can.
I disagree. He has known of his issues for at least 20 years and has now harmed a child. Nowhere in the video did I see him express remorse for the consequences of his actions to the child. He seems most sorry that he is facing consequences that he believes are unfair. What about the girl? She is his victim. Where is his remorse for the harm he has done to her? He even had the chutzpah to throw blame at her. No, I think a much better way to have dealt with this would have been to have had and expressed genuine remorse for the innocent that he has harmed.
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So slow down with the torch.
Anyone can be forgiven. But before they can be forgiven they have to be truly sorry for the harm that they have inflicted. Sterling may get there one day. To me it does not look like he is anywhere close to that now. He seems primarily concerned with himself, comparing himself to Jesus Christ, saying that he is a scapegoat, and bemoaning that pedophiles are in his view mistreated.
Wow and I mean WOW! This is all too much to take in in a weekend.
I did sense that back earlier when he came out with his article about his wife leaving him because of "lust addiction" I knew he was holding back on the real spill. Said something about but did not mention the age. Lust addiction does not explain anything.
Lust Addiction is redundant. That is like me saying I have a "difficult problem". The hell that is supposed to mean. One can lust for a bucket of chocolate ice cream, 24 hours straight on a vegas table, or that which is now being revealed.
By the way, were any of those whimsical acronyms Sterling decided to create active? Group this, congress that, agency here association of there. How can you retire from your own figment anyway.
Active is in the eye of the beholder. There has been a general exodus over the past 24 months as friction between Sterling and other members of his various organizations boiled over.
Hi All,
I did not trust this guy the first time I talked to him on the phone many years ago, seen right though the BS!
Good for him, he needs to be in jail for misleading many of $$$, I recall he took 60k+ investors money to buy a house a few years back.
But as we all see, these clowns talking about God are the ones you need to look out for and now we know why!
If this was your child, what would you do?
I knew after reading his post, he had bigger problems then a simple divorce.
Stirling Allan post:
So, why did she ask me for a divorce?
This is hard for me to say, because it doesn't reflect well on me at all.
I've mentioned to you in the past (1 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpesn.com%2F2014%2F03%2F18%2F9602460_Open-letter-to-Disqus_stop-posting-lascivious-images%2F&ei=W825U-jvB8uBogTS8oCgDg&usg=AFQjCNGjFMX6YQVWX_MutevDRfl6To6b5A&sig2=GQarChKxfUaegPgUPh8HJQ&bvm=bv.70138588,d.cGU)|2 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpesn.com%2F2013%2F11%2F14%2F9602386_Why-Im-Destined-to-Become-the-Richest-Man-in-the-World--for-Good%2F&ei=ks25U8GKJtTgoATaqIDgDw&usg=AFQjCNGu1zK50Qm1R68LdCStrbThNebNKQ&sig2=6y163K1oCkC3LoicE5r0Xw&bvm=bv.70138588,d.cGU)) that I have a lust addiction (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Sexaholism) and have been in a program of recovery. I confessed my addiction to my wife about 9 years ago, when I came down with type 1 diabetes. [By the way, I've done so well in maintaining a normal blood sugar level that my doctor suggested I write a book. See http://NormalBloodDiabetic.com (http://normalblooddiabetic.com) ] I took that as a sign that something was way out of whack for me emotionally, and it was obvious to me that I needed to stop denying and hiding the reality of my addiction, which I had picked up about three years prior to that.
The addiction kicked in as a result of my social life being removed from me, both because of being an excommunicated Mormon in Utah for "apostasy" (can you say "scarlet letter" treatment to the max?) as well as my wife's not enjoying entertaining guests at our home. I've had a few opportunities for social mingling, but nothing like what my heart desires. That void created fertile ground for an addiction to kick in, and lust became the addiction of choice.
My occasional relapses, to varying degrees, have been very hard on my wife, each time feeling like complete infidelity and that somehow she doesn't measure up; when in reality, most of the time it hasn't had much at all to do with any insufficiency on her part.
This recent relapse, however, was spurred by a critical attitude I was fostering, being frustrated with her default mode being cranky rather than nice with the kids and sometimes with me for the past 15 years, when chores needed to be done or other corrective instruction given. This put me in a vulnerable position when we went on vacation to Disneyland, drawing from some insurance money we got that was more than needed to take care of the core issue (had a dishwasher leak that warped the floor and damaged the drywall in a basement room). I wanted to put that money toward survival, but she won in her insistence that we use it for some family time.
A little more than a week prior to that, I had traveled to Vegas to meet with an entrepreneur from India, and was subjected to several hours of a parade very immodestly-dressed females in the Venecian. I didn't do too bad, and sought to keep my focus on my work, rather than the provocative images that surrounded me. But neither did I do as good as I might have, had I been in a better space with my wife. It would be like taking a frustrated alcoholic into a bar for several hours, and expecting him not to take a sip.
I bring that up because I found that the dress at Disneyland was just as immodest as at the Venetian. One out of every 20 females was dressed like a slut. Four days of being around that was not easy, followed by a morning at the beach, and I did give in to my desire to lust. Though I was being pretty tricky about appearing nonchalant about it, she picked up on it; and as I later confessed to the extent of acting out, she said our marriage was over because I had crossed a line in acting out that she had warned me not to cross.
I believe in God, not men thinking they are above all..
Tom
Tom
The man seems tormented...and he is practicing "brutal honesty" ....is this like "repenting" or
what ??
I have to admit I have not read anything about this [other than your post above ]
as Others have mentioned here ,I hope the child can be helped...men do not realize how truly wicked even small levels of inappropriate behavior or affections can be to a child ..I volunteered and counseled at a facility for addicts..
many many Young girls there [and older woman] were messed up early in life by this type of inappropriate behavior by Men they trusted and thought they loved or should love.
its a lifetime of mess for them and those around them...
what a mess...
Quote from: dieter on December 31, 2014, 04:40:25 PM
I don't like pedos, but Sterling handles it as good as one can.
So slow down with the torch.
There is no such thing as a good pedophile and no torch big enough. Having worked with children"s charities and public housing I can assure you the damage sexual abuse to children can cause is often life changing and permanent. I have four daughters and you should think how your reaction would be is some creepy over 50 year old self confessed lust addict was molesting your daughter.
What is even worse is he justifies this with this delusions of grandeur he is God in the flesh.
He did himself or his lawyers a favor, he put a lot of information into the video that questions his sanity. Hopefully he will be given some help.
There is and always should be zero tolerance for Sexual predators of minors.
I agree it should in no ways reflect on any people he has dealt with or covered. The technology should always be judged on its own merits.
Happy New year
Mark
Quote from: markdansie on December 31, 2014, 09:12:10 PM
There is no such thing as a good pedophile and no torch big enough. Having worked with children"s charities and public housing I can assure you the damage sexual abuse to children can cause is often life changing and permanent. I have four daughters and you should think how your reaction would be is some creepy over 50 year old self confessed lust addict was molesting your daughter.
What is even worse is he justifies this with this delusions of grandeur he is God in the flesh.
He did himself or his lawyers a favor, he put a lot of information into the video that questions his sanity. Hopefully he will be given some help.
There is and always should be zero tolerance for Sexual predators of minors.
I agree it should in no ways reflect on any people he has dealt with or covered. The technology should always be judged on its own merits.
Happy New year
Mark
Mark:
I agree 100%!. Sterling and I have never got along well with interactions on various forums. (His and this one) I had no idea he had this issue. How dare he speak like he is above anyone else when this is the case? If that were my daughter...well...no need to say.
Maybe it is not a coincidence that he backed all of those fraudulent "free energy" devices over the years? I mean, if you do not have integrity in one part of your life, then why should we expect integrity out of the other parts?
It is indeed a sad, sad day for energy researchers, and for Sterling. If he was not so pompous and holier than tho, I might almost feel sorry for him.
But, I do not.
Hopefully, he will get what he deserves.
I feel really bad for those girls. I have a daughter myself. Let's not go there.
Bill
The incident occurred on Sunday, December 7, at the end of a three day stay in Gold Beach, Oregon. [His earlier visit to the Hutchisons, in Nesika Beach Oregon, ended on December 4.]
Sterling [12/7 Sunday School video, filmed the same day as the incident, but earlier in the day]: 0:00:01: "Today is December 7, 2014. I'm in Gold Beach, Oregon..." 1:14:25: "I'm still an addict; I'm still messed up. I haven't been healed yet. I've been asking for deliverance and I want deliverance and I believe it will come and I'm not sure why it hasn't come yet but it will come eventually."
Sterling [12/29 video]: 1:27:40: "When I was in this situation... two Sundays ago...December 7... in this class what I did was to talk about my addiction... That day I took that to this group of people that I was hanging out with where I had this problem and I had them watch that lesson with me and I wanted to bring it out into the open-- look, I'm an addict and you need to know this and let's have some boundaries here, and boundaries weren't set up. For some reason they didn't, that was really on me, I should have said hey we need to setup some boundaries. And I didn't because the craving was like I want this attention, this situation, and I was hoping they would setup the boundaries and I would comply with them. But there weren't any boundaries setup, and the next day I left on my trip." 1:29:54: "For the first three days at this location, the odometer on my car was 197888... I hadn't realized when I pulled up and parked there I hadn't noticed my odometer, but then after three days I've been there and I got in my car to go somewhere else, and I looked at my odometer... [lexicon page] 197 that is where the word anti-Christ is."
So, it's important to listen carefully to what people say. For example, if a house guest hints that there be boundaries set up, take that request very seriously. [This, even though responsibility for the incident having happened rests 100% on Sterling.] Also, aside from the serious incident that occurred, it appears that whatever interviews he conducted there during those three days for the benefit of his PESN audience, he is precluded from posting. The host family is understandably livid, and apparently does not want to be identified or have anything more to do with him, other than calling for his arrest.
markdansie, you kind of imply that I said there are "good pedophiles". I didn't say that.
I don't know if he molested kids personally or just addictively consumes child p.o.r.n( btw this forum has a silly censoring feature, I'd rather have no google ads like "russian women seek for swiss husband ...") , that for some reason seems to flourish excessively, most likely due to those who don't confess anything.
All I'm saying is, it is certainly desirable if a pedo lets other people know, so they can protect their children. That said, usually it is the father or uncle, check the statistics. Often people with great power, so none dares to report it to the cops. And in such cases it is not the s.e.x that gives the molester a kick, but the awareness of total power. Who would believe you when you say a high judge and high grade mason is molesting you? Who would risk his future?
I could easily decide to invest 15 years in prison to cleanse the world from such a pig.
But if we burn Sterling at stake, will any other pedo follow him in going public? No, they will hide even more. And this crap continues.
I thought I made that clear already.
Hi Dieter,
I made a wrong assumption and stand corrected. You make a good point.
I promote forgiveness, its a really hard thing to do when the innocence of a child is involved.
I will make this my last post on the topic, I already decided not to run an article at Revolution-Green despite receiving years of public attacks from him on my motives and character.
All the technologies should be separate from this mess. They will always succeed or fail on testing and data. Thats part of the evolution process.
Kind Regards
Mark
Hi All,
This is my last post on Stirling, my opinion is sound and didn't change a thing about this guy!
"molested kids personally or just addictively consumes child p.o.r.n" is not a sickness, its lust to the last core of a being. Even killers of men knows this is dead wrong, that's why most child molesters die in jail!
You can't fix this sickness, it deals with lust of anyone or thing to get your rocks off, children are easy prey to these sick people.
The only way to help these people is keep them away from kids and computers, but we know that's not going to happen soon.
I know a this guy a few years back, looking at very young girls at starbucks, not just a basic look either , but a very long look. He turn out to serve ten years for child p.o.r.n. He claimed that the cat would hit the keys on the computer and that's how over 1000+ videos + picture of porn was uploaded on his computer.
Stirling coming out in the open change nothing, he still had other to blame for his sickness like all most of of them do!
A men that sick would jump off the cliff, so they won't hurt anyone again!
That's a real man knowing he can't control this wicked sin of lust, but you won't see them doing that very soon, will you?
P.S
For anyone to think Stirling did a good job in free energy movement, my opinion is he hurt this movement from the start!
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!
Tom
Quote from: dieter on January 01, 2015, 03:42:37 AM
markdansie, you kind of imply that I said there are "good pedophiles". I didn't say that.
I don't know if he molested kids personally or just addictively consumes child p.o.r.n( btw this forum has a silly censoring feature, I'd rather have no google ads like "russian women seek for swiss husband ...") , that for some reason seems to flourish excessively, most likely due to those who don't confess anything.
All I'm saying is, it is certainly desirable if a pedo lets other people know, so they can protect their children. That said, usually it is the father or uncle, check the statistics. Often people with great power, so none dares to report it to the cops. And in such cases it is not the s.e.x that gives the molester a kick, but the awareness of total power. Who would believe you when you say a high judge and high grade mason is molesting you? Who would risk his future?
I could easily decide to invest 15 years in prison to cleanse the world from such a pig.
But if we burn Sterling at stake, will any other pedo follow him in going public? No, they will hide even more. And this crap continues.
I thought I made that clear already.
In the video Stirling said he was involved with a girl. He spoke about her parents being livid. He said that he would not mention the particulars such as age in order to "protect the girl". What went on in Florida that precipitated his wife seeking a divorce is a separate incident on which we have no details.
I think that if a pedophile warns the community that is a good thing. Sterling in a way warned the community when a number of years ago he published his story of wanting to "run away" with a 14 year old when he was about 30. His warning was not effective in preventing the incident that now has Sterling waiting to be arrested. I do not think that it would be good public policy to give any pedophiles a pass on criminal acts in return for confessing those acts after the fact.
Paul Baumann of Methernitha had similar issues. (Inventor of the Testatika device.)
Quote from: not_a_mib on January 01, 2015, 09:44:05 PM
Paul Baumann of Methernitha had similar issues. (Inventor of the Testatika device.)
I had long forgotten about those guys and their phony Testatika machine.
Phony?
Stefan did some visits there....
phony huh??
As Johny used to say
I did not know that"
so you were there too?
Quote from: ramset on January 01, 2015, 11:41:10 PM
Phony?
Stefan did some visits there....
phony huh??
As Johny used to say
I did not know that"
so you were there too?
Is there any BS claim so ridiculous that you will not accept it?
Quote from: ramset on January 01, 2015, 11:41:10 PM
Phony?
Stefan did some visits there....
phony huh??
As Johny used to say
I did not know that"
so you were there too?
I suggest you talk to Stefan of the record.
Often reporters do not publish or report things that do not pan out for a variety of reasons
My personal investigation was no evidence was ever produced that would substantiate any claims. If you liek it was more liek Chinese rumors on Steroids
Kind Regards
Mark
Whether the Testatika works or is fake was never truely investigated. Stefan was given a demonstration of operation, but not a dismanteling / disassembly etc.
The operation principle is mostly unknown and no working replication exists to my knowledge. It could be real, it could be fake.
Baumann was accused of several things including contact with rather young women, although he may not be a typical pedophile. In switzerland s.e.x with a 15yo is illegal, although such a girl may have real female attributes. In other countries marriage is legal from the age of 13 on, so that is relative. And Accusations are not proof... Baumann was also "seen", walking around in womens clothes in the forest. As the Methernita community is a closed religious group (some may say a sect), the people of the near village love to talk about them.
It's interesting tho, that Baumann is one of those who is capable of founding a religious cult around himself as a leader. Some parallels with Sterling maybe.
Wow...just WOW.
To be honest Sterling always struck me as a 'suspect' kind of person. He just had that demeanor about him.
Quote from: dieter on January 02, 2015, 04:58:47 AM
It's interesting tho, that Baumann is one of those who is capable of founding a religious cult around himself as a leader. Some parallels with Sterling maybe.
I have often in person seen cult like behavior surrounding some free energy claims. I first encountered this near my home town in Australia with the Joe Cell followers. They develop a protective hierarchy. I had my family threatened by some of the diehards in the end because I kept asking questions. More recently the HopeGirl and QEG took on a cult like structure.
Kind Regards
Mark
Mark E
so the short answer is No....[have you investigated the machine]
http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm
thx
Chet
Quote from: ramset on January 02, 2015, 11:37:37 AM
Mark E
so the short answer is No....[have you investigated the machine]
If there really is no BS claim so ridiculous that you will not accept it then it is unlikely that there is any information that can bring you enlightenment. I looked at the silly claims years and years ago. I was unable to find any evidence of objective tests performed against the machine, much less any that supported the physics violating claims: Physics 1E10+, Testatika 0.
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http://www.rexresearch.com/testatik/testart.htm
thx
Chet
Those 15 year old demonstrations were very brief and did not measure input or output energy. They established nothing beyond stored energy in a box, much like Potter's inept demonstrations. And we all know what is going to happen, or more specifically what is not going to happen come March 15 with Greg Potter: The day will come and go without any objective tests occurring that back his claims.
Mark E
Sometimes Its just easier to tell the truth.A simple Yes or no...
no need to get all drama queen and "Hollywood"..
so that's a No....you have no personal experience or, are unaware or anyone that has done a proper
investigation that showed it to be a "Hoax"or "phony"..?
thx
Chet
There is one reason, and one reason only why there has never been a real investigation of the Testatika claims. It is because those in Methernitha who claim to have a working one, will not permit it.
I know someone, a "big name" that you all would recognize, who went there years ago and even held the smallest one in his hands while it was allegedly generating power. But he and his team were not permitted actually to carefully examine it, take it apart, hook up measuring instruments, etc. So all that demonstration proves is that the community, or rather Baumann himself, did not actually cooperate.
Since Baumann's death, do they still claim to have any working Testatika machines at Methernitha? I have read that they do not use a Testatika any more. It's really hard to find out first-hand information about them, but a statement to this effect did appear on their website some years ago. Now all there is is a "contact" page, with no information, and the Wayback Machine doesn't even have anything on them either.
You must also question the moral position of a "Christian" community that has a "free energy" device like the Testatika is claimed to be, which keeps it secret and does not allow it to be developed. Don't forget that many many children are actually dying, every day, from starvation and diseases caused by lack of clean water, while you are thinking about it.
Of course, such niceties may not have mattered much to Baumann:
QuoteIn 1976 Paul Baumann, the founder of the community, was sentenced to six years imprisonment for sexual abuse of children.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methernitha
Quote from: ramset on January 02, 2015, 01:09:16 PM
Mark E
Sometimes Its just easier to tell the truth.A simple Yes or no...
no need to get all drama queen and "Hollywood"..
so that's a No....you have no personal experience or, are unaware or anyone that has done a proper
investigation that showed it to be a "Hoax"or "phony"..?
I am afraid you have reality turned upside down. The claims for the device are
extraordinary. That means that the claims are strongly at odds with our understanding of the world in the same way that: "Just take three steps off this 100' high ledge and grab the invisible lottery ticket that awaits you. The lottery faries will keep you from falling. Your invisible ticket will become visible once you grab it." Is an extraordinary claim. Barring strong affirmative evidence, such claims are
false on their face. So long as proponents of
extraordinary claims fail to show strong evidence in favor of such claims, those claims remain
false on their face. Greg Potter's water generator claims for GDS are such claims as are the Testatika claims. There is no drama. It is just reality.
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thx
Chet
Tinsel
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You must also question the moral position of a "Christian" community that has a "free energy" device like the Testatika is claimed to be, which keeps it secret and does not allow it to be developed. Don't forget that many many children are actually dying, every day, from starvation and diseases caused by lack of clean water, while you are thinking about it.
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Yes I completely agree .
thx
Chet
The main players at Fix the World and at Steorn should all cash in their investments, empty their bank accounts, sell their assets, and then pool all their money together and buy water pumps for Africa.
That would be tangible and be poetic justice at the same time.
Hi TK,
The only thing I can offer is salvation through Jesus Christ, No free energy from me and salvation is God's job to do...
Sometimes Christians just think they have all the answers, when they are most likely the biggest sinners even today.
This is also why I can't stand church because I see right through the mask they wear!
Happy New Year TK, and hope the best for you....
Tom
Quote from: MileHigh on January 02, 2015, 02:35:10 PM
The main players at Fix the World and at Steorn should all cash in their investments, empty their bank accounts, sell their assets, and then pool all their money together and buy water pumps for Africa.
That would be tangible and be poetic justice at the same time.
MH:
I agree 100%.
Tommy:
I agree with you too. I have my own beliefs but going to church with a bunch of hypocrites is not my idea of being closer to God. (Not including all church goers here, just the churches I have attended) I do not need anyone else to help me communicate with the God I believe in.
Chet:
I am glad that you agreed with TK on his last post. I do too. That is part of the hypocrisy I was speaking about above. IF those folks had a real free energy device and would not share it...well..that speaks for itself. Same with Witts as far as I am concerned.
Bill
Hi All,
Let me just add another opinion to this Stirling Allan, he is a liar, cheat and will say anything to keep the money flowing!
This child PEDOPHILE is nothing new, he claim this many years back wanted to run off with a 14 year old girl, this is also why his wife took the kids and divorce this guy.
I question everyone that had contact with this guy, some of them are reading this right now, NEST has a group of people that seem questionable but a few I would hope did not know about Stirling claims of being a PEDOPHILE.
This does not mean we don't sin, hell I got involve with a women a few years back, but she was 42, not under age. Myself as being a real christian had to tell my wife, yep shit hit the fan you might say. You can't fix the damage done, but God expects us all to tell the truth no matter what the out come is!
Always remember, when we tell the truth you would not forget what you have said in the future!
This is also why many dislike me, because I'm not a team player when I see the greed of men.
Many want free energy, but I believe God won't allow this to happen due to the fact that he gave us all free salvation through Jesus Christ and yet people would just replace that for free energy, not going to happen people!
People need to do their research on anyone and everybody today!
I have seen these type of people all over the free energy movement for many years, I also believe some people started to get wind of the sickness of Stirling after many years of supporting scams after scams of free energy claims.
I will say no man really knows GOD, they just think they do. It's a person relationship that God wants, not someone asking for your manmade dollars.
Being a christian for me is not going to church and pass a plate around to suck weak minded people into thinking they are doing God's work. You would be better to help someone who really needs help, then paying for a building that someone took a load out on. Let's not forget these mega churches that bring in millions for someone to get rich on.
God careless about man made stuff, all he ask is for a personal relationship through Jesus Christ.
PS.
I also study Demonology for many years when I was a young christian warrior, I seen enough to realize how powerful sin and evil can be without God in your life....
I don't wish bad things on Stirling, but his sins will do him in at the end.
God bless and best to every good person with integrity!
Tom
I think that the good news is that the chances of Sterling having the opportunity to harm another child are now pretty small. I think that the disgusting bad news is that Sterling shows no apparent remorse for the harm he has inflicted on the child upon whom he acted out his pedophilia. His expressed regrets all appear to revolve around the "unfair" treatment he expects. There are many puke uncontrollably aspects of Sterling's: rationalizations, shifting blame to his victim, playing down his behavior as a "mistake", and referring to pedophiles like himself as "God's least". Invoking Godwin's rule here: By Sterling's logic, Hitler and Manson were/are among God's least. Stirling has got some sort of twisted idea that his despicable behavior of harming a child should make him a sympathetic character. Yeah, and the Menendez brothers went to jail as orphans. Sterling is the freaking predator in this situation. He is the adult with power and control. He is the one who has done harm to a child in order to fulfill his personal desires. When he compares himself to Jesus Christ, and says he is one of "God's least" I really feel ill. It further sickens me that without the slightest of evidence he freely accused and still accuses the hundreds of dedicated NIST staffers who worked on the 9/11 report of being in on a conspiracy to cover up 3,000+ murders. Who the H... is he to make such audacious accusations. Well now we know who he is: He is a sicko who hurts children. He is a sicko who gleefully celebrated what he fantasized as murders of "ruling elites" by "white hat" nuclear terrorists. I have little doubt that my feelings are unique. It is very likely that Sterling is presently facing a painful process of near universal ostracism as well he should.
As abhorrent and evil and hypocritical as Sterling's pedophilia and his completely F'd up rationalizations are, Sterling is still a human being. If one day he really atones for the evil he has done to this girl and any others he has harmed, then at that time as human beings the right thing to do will be to extend the same forgiveness to him that we seek for the wrongs that we do. The "Lord's Prayer" did not come out of a vacuum.
In the meantime, I think that no one can question that PESN amassed a large database of people making extraordinary energy claims that is pretty much like no other. I think that overall that database has been valuable to the community and I would hate to see it disappear.
"Shifting the blame to his victim"....
Yes...that got me pissed off too. The good news is that when Sterling goes to prison and gets ass raped, the guy(s) doing the attack can just say that they thought Sterling wanted it and gave his consent. The prison population does not really treat folks that harm children very well.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 03, 2015, 02:07:53 PM
"Shifting the blame to his victim"....
Yes...that got me pissed off too. The good news is that when Sterling goes to prison and gets ass raped, the guy(s) doing the attack can just say that they thought Sterling wanted it and gave his consent. The prison population does not really treat folks that harm children very well.
Bill
As sick and angry as Sterling's revelations like his blaming the girl he harmed make me feel, I will not give up my humanity out of outrage against his bad acts. Torture diminishes the person or people who perform the torture. Torture is simply wrong. Torture would be wrong even against a truly evil person such as Richard Allen Davis.
Society needs to be protected against Sterling, and Sterling deserves punishment for his crime. We will see how that plays out.
These are extremely sad cases as one has to realise there's obviously going to be implications
for the perpetrator's immediate family.
John.
Quote from: minnie on January 03, 2015, 05:47:09 PM
These are extremely sad cases as one has to realise there's obviously going to be implications
for the perpetrator's immediate family.
John.
Sterling's actions have apparently already displaced his former wife and her kids from their home. According to Sterling, they are moving in with her mother.
QuoteQuoteCheri and the kids have to move from the home Cheri manifested three years ago, to go live with her mom under cramped conditions, taking many things we normally would have retained, and giving them away to thrift, and putting the rest in storage.
http://pesn.com//2015/01/03/9602589_Sterling-Confession/
Sterling claims he is the "Heavenly Father". He reveals he cannot be trusted even to change an infant's diaper. He blames his "mistakes" on sane people uniformly rejecting his alphabetics nonsense.
You can do hi survey now on his confession.
http://pesn.com//2015/01/03/9602589_Sterling-Confession/
Kind Regards
Mark
Boy, what a jerk this Stirling is, now he is claiming to be God.
Ok, he is a God of his own lust...The devil is really working on this guy.
That's how it works, sin will destroy anyone if you give it enough time to build up.
We all make mistakes with sin, but when we give in to sin, then that's when Satan is able to destroy you.
I think satan will try to make Stirling kill himself if the law don't get to him first. Seen this many time in the past, Stirling gave into his love of the devil that now claims to be GOD!
Tom
Humm...
I noticed Stuart Campbell has not been on peswiki since this hit the fan. If he alone was not going to bring peswiki down, this new news will be that straw on the camels back.
This new confession blog is an OBVIOUS insanity plea move.
I do not think Stuart agrees with Sterling on running this and Alphabetic's on the site. It actually must be a difficult time for many of sterling's supporters.
Mark
I just have one thought on this beyond the general sentiment that has already been expressed here.
Sterling objects to some T&A in the media, and almost blames that as being responsible for his problem. He wants that to be controlled to "protect him." It's Sterling's problem more than anything. You may as well remove video games like Grand Theft Auto and the list goes on and on. Who knows where it would end.... a place like North Korea perhaps?
A big "No!" to the super nanny state. A small percentage of people are always going to "go off their rocker." It could be from a movie, from a video game, a web site, or from a picture in a magazine.
I am sorry that Sterling has a problem, but it's his problem. You can't take people's fun away because somebody might have a problem.
By Sterlings own admission he confessed to repeated pedophilia (even though it is not clear what he confessed to). The definition of the word looks sickening, and to hurt a child is unthinkable. He has said that he has had this issue and acted on it over the course of many years. So he deceived and repeated until caught. He used his website to solicit money then deceived the people who funded him and spent the week in a ski chalet. He deceived his wife and parents. There is a pattern here.
He threw away the most important thing he could ever have, his wife and children. He literally threw them on the street.
His actions by extension condemned all of the people who cared for him. This is very damning thing to happen in a tightly faith based community. It's a very sad time for him and his family. Hopefully he is isolated for a while and gets help. A sad day all around.
Sterling Allan has now been arrested:
On the 23rd of February John Hutchison posted this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvW5NrIVp4M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvW5NrIVp4M)
And now this article came up via the comments in the video:
http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/sheriff-s-office-arrests-fountain-green-man-following-reports-of/article_b163d357-46d2-542e-9815-9b3823df58ad.html (http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/sheriff-s-office-arrests-fountain-green-man-following-reports-of/article_b163d357-46d2-542e-9815-9b3823df58ad.html)
If that is true what the article claims, it is really disgusting what Allan did do... I can´t imagine how a father of 4 kids can do something like this....
Disgusting !
Excuse me, but we don't kknow any thing yet is a fact of truth, don't forget the guy was in the FREE ENERGY busness, it's a common profesional hazzard! don't judge others, who knows whats true at this stage.
One things for sure he has a wife and kids, and others that have been involved as no fault of their own, who must be going through hell.
With out us joining in the condemnation.
AG
Well here is some more info I just found:
http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-a-partner-with-andrea-rossi-and-his-e-cat-fraud-was-arrested-2-22-2016/ (http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-a-partner-with-andrea-rossi-and-his-e-cat-fraud-was-arrested-2-22-2016/)
But this is an anti free energy website it seems.
They claim, as it was defined as "child" the victims must be 13 or lower age...
And Sodomy means Anal in the USA ? Over here in Europe it means intercourse with animals...
Intercourse with animals is bestiality.
Unfortunate for Sterling, he'll probably spend the rest of his life in prison, however long or short that time frame is. He has practically no one to help defend him in court. They'll certainly throw the book at him and prison will teach him things I'm sure he never wanted to know. Whether he deserves this or not, it's in the cards now.
In any event, I think his association with free energy is over.
Quote from: Dog-One on February 26, 2016, 04:11:14 AM
Unfortunate for Sterling.
In any event, I think his association with free energy is over.
and America two ! once his webb site goes down.
__________________WHAT FREE ENERGY ??????? is that your talking about ???
To be honest, when ever i tried to look at stuff, it would mess up and say stupid things like my password didn't give me clearance for that basic level, did he ever get that sorted out, or had it been got at ?
Changing the subject remember that guy AtonNuron193 ;), he must have tried every trick in the book to get every ones name address and phone number, claiming he had umpteen devices to give away, what a bloke ! aehy!. Now this ! What's next ?
That reminds me I must get some more solar panels and clean the green shit of the existing ones ;)
Quote from: AlienGrey on February 26, 2016, 05:03:23 AM
To be honest, when ever i tried to look at stuff, it would mess up and say stupid things like my password didn't give me clearance for that basic level, did he ever get that sorted out ... ?
His site has no password.
Quote from: AlienGrey on February 26, 2016, 03:24:40 AM
Excuse me, but we don't kknow any thing yet is a fact of truth, don't forget the guy was in the FREE ENERGY busness, it's a common profesional hazzard! don't judge others, who knows whats true at this stage.
One things for sure he has a wife and kids, and others that have been involved as no fault of their own, who must be going through hell.
With out us joining in the condemnation.
AG
If you have followed any of Sterling's online postings, he has, in my opinion, appeared to have confessed to many crimes...using his own words so...I doubt that anyone has jumped to anything on their own here.
Bill
hartiberlin: there is no such thing as a anti free-energy web site, but that one is anti scam.
Consider that ALL energy is free.
Quote from: Pirate88179 on February 26, 2016, 10:52:07 AM
If you have followed any of Sterling's online postings, he has, in my opinion, appeared to have confessed to many crimes...using his own words so...I doubt that anyone has jumped to anything on their own here.
Bill
Remember when Sterling went to see the Hutchisons? Check this link, where you can see what Nancy Hutchison (John's partner) has to say about that visit.
http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-partner-of-andrea-rossi-is-being-investigated-by-the-fbi-and-local-sheriff/
It's a little over halfway down that long page.
Quote from: TinselKoala on February 26, 2016, 11:14:46 AM
Remember when Sterling went to see the Hutchisons? Check this link, where you can see what Nancy Hutchison (John's partner) has to say about that visit.
http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-partner-of-andrea-rossi-is-being-investigated-by-the-fbi-and-local-sheriff/ (http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-partner-of-andrea-rossi-is-being-investigated-by-the-fbi-and-local-sheriff/)
It's a little over halfway down that long page.
Just very sad, this combined all in one head, almost OU, but not ................. kids involved!
Quote from: TinselKoala on February 26, 2016, 11:14:46 AM
Remember when Sterling went to see the Hutchisons? Check this link, where you can see what Nancy Hutchison (John's partner) has to say about that visit.
http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-partner-of-andrea-rossi-is-being-investigated-by-the-fbi-and-local-sheriff/ (http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-partner-of-andrea-rossi-is-being-investigated-by-the-fbi-and-local-sheriff/)
It's a little over halfway down that long page.
Wow! Nancy appeared to be less than impressed with Stirling's visit. It is a miracle that the little girl's father did not kill him...I would have.
Bill
Quote from: AlienGrey on February 26, 2016, 03:24:40 AM
Excuse me, but we don't kknow any thing yet is a fact of truth, don't forget the guy was in the FREE ENERGY busness, it's a common profesional hazzard! don't judge others, who knows whats true at this stage.
One things for sure he has a wife and kids, and others that have been involved as no fault of their own, who must be going through hell.
With out us joining in the condemnation.
AG
I am sure the victims and their family will be very happy with your sentiments. Sterling confesses many times over public ally to having a lust addiction and committing crimes with minors. He betrayed the trust of friends in at least one instance molesting a daughter of an associate (all on public record)
Kind Regards
Mark
Quote from: markdansie on February 26, 2016, 11:30:21 PM
I am sure the victims and their family will be very happy with your sentiments. Sterling confesses many times over public ally to having a lust addiction and committing crimes with minors. He betrayed the trust of friends in at least one instance molesting a daughter of an associate (all on public record)
Kind Regards
Mark
as if his dishonesty, misleading information, and scammeries were not enough reason to NOT trust this man.....
Just so very disgusted by that dangerous sociopath that tried to appear family friendly.
Grrr!!!!🔥
May his alphabet soups never taste the same again.
Well, at least he will make some new friends where he is going. The first time he drops the soap will surely be a religious experience for him.
Bill
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/26/scalia-murdered-after-obama-meeting/
Wtf is this?
Quote from: SoManyWires on February 28, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/26/scalia-murdered-after-obama-meeting/
Wtf is this?
Indeed, wtf.
Quote from: SoManyWires on February 28, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/26/scalia-murdered-after-obama-meeting/
Wtf is this?
I had a gut feeling Sterling was in way over his head, but not like that article. Not at all.
Something to keep in mind, Uncle Gordy has some kind of association with Keshe. That tells me quite a bit about what to believe and what is just his-story.
Quote from: SoManyWires on February 28, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/26/scalia-murdered-after-obama-meeting/
Wtf is this?
Ninth circle ?
I imagine all the scam artists who loved the attention and endorsements they received from Sterling suddenly want their scams removed from the PESN website and have no association with him. They just wanted to steal your money, not molest your children.
There should be a new thread on this. It has been too many times that scammers walk right into this. I guess there has always been snake oil salesmen. Just not one that wants to impregnate ones daughter on the way. Take your money and leave a present behind. I have watched this since I became interested and went to the INE in Colorado in 93. Sterling has been over the top trying to push systems that are always a day out and a dollar short. If you have a working system why is it you now need to set up large manufacturing, territorial distributorships, dealers etc. If you want to retire then write a book on it. I will buy one and go about making one in my garage.