Hi,
went to see a Pomerleau Free Energy demonstration. Was disappointed.
Some crazy coils supposedly powering saws and lamps and stuff.
Pretty easy to do with basic electronics knowledge. Batteries can be hidden everywhere, even within the coils. Thing is, most people don't have the knowledge and it seems they WANT to believe.
Disappointing, to say the least and to say that the NASA, power utility, thousands of engineers etc all went to see his devices and nobody found out how they work, or how they COULD work is an offense to any experienced electronics technician or engineer.
Don't waste your time on this one. It's just entertainment.
All his devices work on DC, his "free energy" voltage sources follow basic rules, like for example they have an internal resistance etc.
He hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available. There are always two questions to ask: How long and How much? How much current for how long, if the calculated Wh fit anywhere inside his devices you have your answer. Nothing from outer space.
If you do the smart technician they get angry, Daniel and his protector Mario as well....
What a waste of time. They think we are all stupid.
For all his devices there is an explanation.
Why don't they build something that cannot be rebuilt by anyone else?
Found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGqaoiJwFMM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGqaoiJwFMM)
and this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazFHhwZLK8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zazFHhwZLK8)
How can you explain this one, there is no place to hide a battery and his device can run a small motor using only one wire connected.
and this one .....
http://overunity.com/393/daniel-pomerlou-demonstrates-free-energy/msg320929/#msg320929
Quote from: ElectricPirate on January 02, 2015, 01:42:16 AM
How can you explain this one, there is no place to hide a battery and his device can run a small motor using only one wire connected.
Did you watch the second video I posted?
One wire doesn't mean there really is only one wire. You can use small gauge litze wire, like two insulated AWG 40 in one insulation sleeve. They would appear 1 wire to the naked eye. You would need a microscope to see them.
As for the battery, there is enough space to let a small hobby motor like the ones he uses run for hours with even the smallest button cells on the market.
The SR416 for example is 4.8mm in diameter and 1.65mm high.
Even if he doesn't use double hidden wires, there are ways to make his devices with currently existing technologies. Why would he limit himself to building these modules?
He even has modules where the load is completely separated from the switch like this one here:
http://quanthommesuite.pagesperso-orange.fr/imagnews05/030105dx8.jpg (http://quanthommesuite.pagesperso-orange.fr/imagnews05/030105dx8.jpg)
Again, button cell inside the motor. He could use:
- a transmitter receiver combination
- an oscillator which reacts to an absorbing circuit nearby (like anti-shoplifting tags)
- small wire gauge along the edges of the plexiglass (but I don't think he did it this way)
- there is even conductive transparent material on the market
Why doesn't he just take a single LED and lights it up with two fingers? Would be more impressive.
I do not claim to
know how he does it but they can be built using common techniques.
He won't let you examine the modules more profoundly. I found fake solder joints which didn't connect to anything, I found current flowing where he claimed there wouldn't be any current....
It just seems to be an occupation for Daniel. At the price they charge ($25) they don't make any money.
when those devices work ? do they work only when Daniel is touching them ?
Quote from: forest on January 02, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
when those devices work ? do they work only when Daniel is touching them ?
Some work during his show without him touching anything. Some work while he's handling them. According to them that's HIS energy. :-D
Some work for the whole duration of the show some only for a few minutes...
It's all about hidden volume, and Wh of the batteries he uses.
And if there are no batteries he could wear a hidden transmitter and transfer energy trough resonant inductive coupling...
Nothing paranormal. Just tricks of someone knowledgeable in electronics.
Quote from: Paul1911 on January 01, 2015, 09:55:40 PM
He hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available.
Hi Paul1911. You have called what Daniel Pomerleau does a hoax.
You have stated that he "hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available."
What actual evidence do you have that Daniel Pomerleau is using hidden batteries?
Quote from: Void on January 02, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
Hi Paul1911. You have called what Daniel Pomerleau does a hoax.
You have stated that he "hides batteries inside coils and anywhere where place is available."
What actual evidence do you have that Daniel Pomerleau is using hidden batteries?
None. I'm sorry. I should have called it "most probably a hoax".
Why probably?
Because
1. anybody with basic electronics knowledge can build working devices that look exactly the same like his
2. nobody is allowed to examine his devices more thoroughly
3. he didn't make a ton of money out of it
4. he didn't reveal his secret (if he's not after the money)
5. on the headlight powering device he has fake solder joints and shorts them out therefore "proving" that the energy doesn't come through the wires supposedly connected to the same fake solder joints (which they are not)
6. on the same device - current goes through wires where he said wouldn't be current. Therefore his claims do not correspond to what you can measure and observe in real life
7. They will tell you you can go to their place (Quebec, Canada) and study his devices for hours and as much as you'd like. Well, try it, insist and you will see that you can't. They don't let you, just suggesting you should come to the next demonstration. The smartest thing to do would be to become friends with them and THEN they will invite you or do some private demonstration. That's when you will more likely have the opportunity to have a closer look.
So no, I don't have proof, in the same way HE doesn't have proof that there actually AREN't any batteries. And he will not disassemble his devices in order to prove anything. He actually gets quite angry if you ask to much. Weird, huh?
What's more likely, he is the misunderstood and opressed inventor or is just doing a good performance act?
Watch his show and you will understand what I mean. No need to bring scopes or multimeters or spectrum analysers or whatever.
What you'd need is a ruler to measure available hidden space and a microscope.
What annoys me is that they are "selling" it as a Free Energy demonstration, when in fact they don't prove that it really is something inexplicable.
There may be some validity to the story, there have been many cases where people have had a permanent charge imbalance in their bodies and it was shown that high voltages would develop on their skin for unknown reasons. In other cases people were hypersensitive to electricity, one man would literally pass out if a cell phone was turned on within 10 feet of him. A double blind test was performed with the cell phone in another room and apparently he would pass out on command every time. He must live in a secluded area away from the city and apparently there are whole communities for people hypersensitive to electricity. I can only imagine what might happen if lightning struck nearby, all the people would be like those fainting goats, lol.
Did you happen to notice what kind of clothing he was wearing as I have a fleece lined hoody that would probably light up your christmas tree every time I move. The damn thing is a electrostatic phenomena in itself which is really annoying at times.
AC
Quote from: allcanadian on January 02, 2015, 05:44:18 PM
Did you happen to notice what kind of clothing he was wearing as I have a fleece lined hoody that would probably light up your christmas tree every time I move. The damn thing is a electrostatic phenomena in itself which is really annoying at times.
AC
Nothing unusual, jeans, long sleeve shirt and a basecap.
Unless they come up up with something I have no explanation for I tend to believe it's fake. Wouldn't be the first time, I mean 99% of those claims do not withstand scientific examination.
Don't get me wrong , I am the first to embrace a new free energy powered society. But for now the only truly powerful proven (and usable) sources are radioactive decay and the sun.
@Paul1911
That is odd and may be grounds for a new project, lol. I have a few Arduino Pro's kicking around and an RF/electrometer/magnetometer combo would be pretty easy to throw together and only be about the size of a pack of gum. At the very least it may give some idea what is going on with some of these devices and be pretty handy in the tool belt as well...Hmm.
AC
Quote from: allcanadian on January 02, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
@Paul1911
That is odd and may be grounds for a new project, lol. I have a few Arduino Pro's kicking around and an RF/electrometer/magnetometer combo would be pretty easy to throw together and only be about the size of a pack of gum. At the very least it may give some idea what is going on with some of these devices and be pretty handy in the tool belt as well...Hmm.
AC
There is no point in trying to find out how his stuff works during his show. There is just not enough time AND they don't really let you investigate.
It all works on DC and you cannot measure anything weird, I had a scope and a multimeter with me
One would need to steal one of his devices to really prove anything...
Nevertheless, it's still possible to duplicate all of his stuff
I believe mind power is possible. One example is the crystalization of water changes by the mood or emotions of people around. Is it not possible that daniel have this extreme ability to control electricity using only his mind that is part human evolution. Ive seen many people with unique ability like a boy that can see in the dark with an eye like a cat glowing at night.
Quote from: ElectricPirate on January 02, 2015, 01:42:16 AM
How can you explain this one, there is no place to hide a battery and his device can run a small motor using only one wire connected.
Be serious. There is plenty of room for some button cells inside that motor, as we have seen on some similar Youtube videos by other folks. Connecting one wire completes the circuit.
Folks that fake this stuff have been very creative over the years, I will give them that. Were you around during the Mylow affair? A little fishing line and a motor go a long way.
Bill
PS Cool name.
Tesla often did the same...
Quote from: forest on January 03, 2015, 05:02:02 AM
Tesla often did the same...
Yes but Tesla used high frequency/high voltage to do these "tricks". All of this can and has been easily replicated by others many times.
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 03, 2015, 05:16:35 AM
Yes but Tesla used high frequency/high voltage to do these "tricks". All of this can and has been easily replicated by others many times.
Bill
Yep.
I have a scientific explanation for why and how it could work and am planning and gathering materiels for an experiment. Basically, it's a simple hartley oscillator, or rather, two of them, and they work together in a multivibrator fashion, passing energy back and forth. The energy comes from heat energy of the medium being transformed from heat into electricity. This is accomplished by the coils producing a magnetic field which causes the ions to move in curilinear paths, thereby giving up their energy of motion to become electricity. To see this done in the inverse, look at how a magnetron works. I'll keep you posted on this :)
@gleichf:
Sounds interesting! Please keep us posted ~ and wishing the best of luck in your experimenting.
Happy new year!
truesearch
Quote from: gleichf on December 31, 2015, 01:22:26 PM
I have a scientific explanation for why and how it could work and am planning and gathering materiels for an experiment. Basically, it's a simple hartley oscillator, or rather, two of them, and they work together in a multivibrator fashion, passing energy back and forth. The energy comes from heat energy of the medium being transformed from heat into electricity. This is accomplished by the coils producing a magnetic field which causes the ions to move in curilinear paths, thereby giving up their energy of motion to become electricity. To see this done in the inverse, look at how a magnetron works. I'll keep you posted on this :)
Oh :o .Dont go and say that magnetic fields can convert heat into electrical energy-->you'll get a whole lot of guru's telling you that no heat is being converted to electricity :D
Dr. Harold Aspden says it does via the Nernst effect in his PhD thesis. Look it up. And, btw, not one of those people you mention can give a satisfactory explanation of a magnetic field. Can you ?
Quote from: gleichf on December 31, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
Dr. Harold Aspden says it does via the Nernst effect in his PhD thesis. Look it up. And, btw, not one of those people you mention can give a satisfactory explanation of a magnetic field. Can you ?
The flow of positive and negative charges,where as what is know as the !north! may be the positive,and the !south! may be the negative of these charges. It may also be the other way around.
Brad
@Paul1911
I went to one of his "shows" many years ago and the thread is on this forum.
Of course we want to find the "trick". But batteries, no way. Just try to open one of those small motors and show me where to put one that will then respond to on/off commands as he showed.
I have only one possible way to see him trick this stuff. In your show, was there a lady with a video camera filming the whole event? This was the case when I was there and it may just be possible that the video camera was modified to not take any video but to transmit a concentrated north/south fluctuations.
Or if the show was in that building that is very near the HV lines off highway 30, it could be that one polarity was already saturating the ambient and the camera was pulsing the other polarity in line of sight while the ambient polarity was a steady rebias of the copper atoms.
Next time I go to one of his shows, I will get up and ask him to show me the video camera is in fact shooting images and even ask him to shut off the camera for five minutes during one of more demos of devices. If he insists that he cannot do that, then we would know.
As usual, I am always open to witnessing something I cannot explain and even open enough to accept the person to be a phenomenon, not against that at all, but I am also as stubborn to figure out any other possible reason for those effects and the above observation is the only one I can think of.
wattsup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-dCWznlMsE
Ask Lifehack, I'm sure he knows how Daniel does it.
Any videos of this Daniel Pomerleau's devices?
Quote from: poynt99 on January 01, 2016, 10:37:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-dCWznlMsE
Ask Lifehack, I'm sure he knows how Daniel does it.
@poynt99
I had one of those motors in my hand, it was rotating and Daniel, from 5 feet away turned it on and off simply by making a one hand gesture of flicking an imaginary light switch up or down. So what? Did he also hide a receiver in the motor as well. Nahhhhhhh. I looked at that motor very closely and it had no signs of tampering with the securing clips or anything like that. Something else it at play here. My focus would be on that video camera. In the old days, if they were videoing the demos the video cameras would have been so much bigger then today. So if they are videoing the demos today, is it still with an old video camera or have they evolved to using more compact modern video cameras that would not permit hiding any transmitter.
wattsup
Penn and Teller can do some amazing things too that seem impossible.
Seems to me it would be simple to test this fellow to see if he is authentic; bring an AC drill or any other AC device from home, and ask him to power it simply by holding the plug in his hand. From what I read about him, he should be able to do that.
That would perhaps convince me there is more to him than trickery.
Bump for Ramset !
8)
Maybe we can buy Wattsup a ticket to his next show ?
I would imagine a transmitter would be easy to detect with the appropriate receiver ?
I still feel there is more to this man than trickery ,he is said to be a very kind and unusual person
a savant of sorts...
What, are you gonna smuggle in a spectrum analyzer and a FLIR camera and an oscilloscope? Tri-field meter in a fake shoe? Antennas in umbrellas? :o
Great Scott, can you imagine what would happen if Pomerleau got together with John Hutchison? Stand back friends, Niagara Falls will turn around and flow uphill, with all the power they would pump back into the grid. ;D
Seriously... I think it's a good idea to have a well-documented visit to a demonstration.
Hey guys, for what it's worth I have heard enough about details of Daniel's abilities I believe it.
I also have ability to effect energy myself, but unlike Daniel it isn't electrical energy I can effect.
I have found I can feel, and understand a "chi" or aetheric like energy that pervades all space.
I can effect it and a lot of what Daniel does make at least a little sense to me.
I have found that this aetheric energy can be transmitted along wire of copper, but also of other materials, Daniel makes some electrical circuits with we spaghetti!
I have healed people with this energy, I can show people how to make devices to use it, and I am without any doubt that this energy is the key to Free Energy.
I will add a few more details...
I have found that most people can feel this aetheric energy to some degree, but there is still a percentage who can't generally feel it.
I can show you how to generate this energy, and if you generate enough of this energy in electrical devices you ultimately get Free Energy and sometimes Antigravity.
I have not yet got those results, but only because I have done little mixing of this with electrical circuits, because i wanted to really understand the aetheric component.
This energy is actually very sensible, sometimes it act much like electricity, other times rather different.
It costs little to work with it, and I would estimate that at least 30% of people should feel energy well enough to make experimentation with this straight forward.
Aether 22
good to see you around
Hope you did OK in that Storm last week-------------------
here is a subject which may not be inline with Daniel P but is inline with Weird happenings on planet earth [IMO]
Kator 01 posted this in another spot
I hope he does not mind I put it here.
A response to AG about levitating Men
Kator 01
Quote
AlienGrey,
you mentioned the fallen angle Mirin Dajo from Netherland. In the following vid ( in german ) there is a text at the end of the vid which I have translated for you. I stumbled on this vid years later when I learned of this guy.
Mirin Dajo - true name Arnold Henske
Name of his assistant ( handler ? ) unknown
Translation:
Kurt E.Koch ( *1913 - 1987 ) was an evangelical theologian and publicist
who was present at these performances in 1947/1948. He wrote in his bokk "Occult ABC ( meaning Occult
Basics) on this subject:
Both men were members of psychic circles in Netherland.
Both Dutchman have demonstrated this floret-stabbing in different countries about 500 times.
When they performed in Zürich ( Switzerland) and showed this experiment day after day some faithful
people became scared. I know that that some small prayer-groups were gathering asking god to finish
this cruelsome spectacle because they assumed daemonic powers acting in disguise.
So what happened ? At or after his 500 th experiment Mirin Dajo died. His Aorta was ruptured according to
the coroner ( this info is published in the german version of wikipedia)
This was the end of this cruel drama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GEWAcSR_bo&t=198 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GEWAcSR_bo&t=198)
See here what is written in wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirin_Dajo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirin_Dajo)
Mike
end quote
One of my King Fu masters could hit someone at a distance without touching them
He called it his "chi"
My guess is that all humans are capable of such neurokinetic direction of energy.
If we can learn how to tap into it.