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Title: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 07, 2015, 05:46:11 PM
Look on drawings to understand my question. Thanks
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 07, 2015, 10:46:15 PM
I think smaller capillary should go down because it
doesn't have enough force to support the weight.
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 07, 2015, 10:46:38 PM
I think smaller capillary should go down because it
doesn't have enough force to support the weight.
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 08, 2015, 12:18:50 AM
You mean it shoulds empty?
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 08, 2015, 03:40:04 AM
Yes
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 08, 2015, 12:18:19 PM
Is there a formula to know if it is possible do so to empty a capillar?
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 08, 2015, 12:28:17 PM
not 100% sure, may be as you suggested, to apply  pressure by a small piston?
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 08, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
I followed some lessons about adhesion forces from an indian teacher...you will find on YT. It seeams only way to know the force needed to break that bond is by a sperimental way... i don't think there are formulas...but it seem strange. I tried to empty a container full of water with down below a capillar tube. All liquid flow down till it reaches the top of the capillar.

I supponse if we divide a capillar like i drew up,we don't have to win the surface tension,but only the adhesion forces inside the capillar...and how i have just written it works. Better show this sistem to a phisycist or an engineer to have some clarifications...

It is clear that when we have emptied the short capillar,we have to move it and link on the top of the bigger and the water will rise again because longer is now  on the surface of the water contained in the tank.

It's a lot i don't write in english so please forget my mistakes in the way i write!
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 08, 2015, 03:26:18 PM
Nobel pls  :D
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 08, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: Gabriele on January 08, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
I followed some lessons about adhesion forces from an indian teacher...you will find on YT. It seeams only way to know the force needed to break that bond is by a sperimental way... i don't think there are formulas...but it seem strange. I tried to empty a container full of water with down below a capillar tube. All liquid flow down till it reaches the top of the capillar.

I supponse if we divide a capillar like i drew up,we don't have to win the surface tension,but only the adhesion forces inside the capillar...and how i have just written it works. Better show this sistem to a phisycist or an engineer to have some clarifications...

It is clear that when we have emptied the short capillar,we have to move it and link on the top of the bigger and the water will rise again because longer is now  on the surface of the water contained in the tank.

It's a lot i don't write in english so please forget my mistakes in the way i write!
It sounds interesting.
Can you make a picture?
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 08, 2015, 06:34:26 PM
http://overunity.com/15001/capillarity/
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 08, 2015, 09:30:03 PM
Can you shed some light on your system?
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 09, 2015, 04:49:26 AM
I didn't build nothing working jet... only theory
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 09, 2015, 08:45:51 PM
Then i thought this ...  :)
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: profitis on January 10, 2015, 12:53:09 AM
I don't think it will go down with piston-engine because width of bottom capillar capable of lifting up to certain hydrostatic height-pressure
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
Thanks. Are you talking about the first system or the mercury-capillar engine?
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: profitis on January 10, 2015, 05:56:59 PM
I'm talking about your 1st diagram at top,however,what you can do is simply put two different width capillars coated inside with gold in water and get permanent volt between them.
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:29:19 PM
I am so
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
 :D
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:36:34 PM
Please describe better yours.
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
You know,i'm so happy cause today from my friends drill my head,i'm so lonly ther's ok,light my candles in a days cause i felt god.
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:44:50 PM
Free,like bessler did :-\ ;D ;D ;D

Difficult to explain what my brain can do.   115qi

Bert Kamfert swinging safary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFBKqoqKO4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7O91GDWGPU Rossini Overture
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: telecom on January 10, 2015, 08:26:36 PM
Quote from: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:41:25 PM
You know,i'm so happy cause today from my friends drill my head,i'm so lonly ther's ok,light my candles in a days cause i felt god.
What capillary is supposed to do in your machine?

Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: profitis on January 11, 2015, 07:53:31 AM
Like this.surface tension change it vapour pressure which change it osmotic pressure(vant hoff equasion) which change it electrical pressure (nernst activity).so sponge metal and smooth metal giv it electrical difference,permanente.
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: AB Hammer on January 11, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
Quote from: Gabriele on January 10, 2015, 07:44:50 PM
Free,like bessler did :-\ ;D ;D ;D

Difficult to explain what my brain can do.   115qi

Bert Kamfert swinging safary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFBKqoqKO4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFBKqoqKO4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7O91GDWGPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7O91GDWGPU) Rossini Overture

Gabriele

I see we have some of the same taste in music. He is another to background to MY Perpetual Quest part 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny7O7bAn2uU

Alan
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 11, 2015, 07:00:50 PM
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 11, 2015, 07:05:31 PM
3tilde. Last night i got drunk...all i posted is bullshit :P
Title: Re: This old enemy the capillarity :)
Post by: Gabriele on January 11, 2015, 07:08:22 PM
Carl Orff - Gassenheuer.....big song.