Please look at the PDF my grandson helped me with, it contains one method of over unity we discovered in our research lab in the 50s. We were shut down by the government and even worse. I no longer fear them as I am very oldand do not expect to live much longer. Please share it as this will be my last communication. Love, Arthur S.
I'm sorry, I do not know how to upload. My grandson has loaded up the files in another place. Please try these.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/baal9e5wxe3a27t/ThermIonic_Overunity_Generator_Arthur_Sadaly_pic.png
http://www.mediafire.com/view/cis22e0r3sr13s1/ThermIonic_Overunity_Generator_Arthur_Sadaly.pdf
He said it should work.
Hi Arthur, thanks for the interesting post, looks like you managed to get the info out after a few tries! I've taken the liberty to post the picture here to make it easier to analyze. The pdf has more info and should also be downloaded by interested parties. I cant believe people were murdered over this!
EDIT: I managed to take a snapshot of the pdf and uploaded that as well
Here the orriginal pdf with better quality. Hope this is not a 1st april joke, looks dangerous device to me this voltage can kill you.
A question - what is the plate and the grid made of?
The newer ones I've owned had a plate made of graphite or corrugated tantalum for the older ones. The 4-400A is a common, medium power vacuum tube. Not so sure about the grid material. I've been reading it over and over, so far it all seems to make sense.
Happy April Fools day! haha very funny :-/
Quote from: Arthur1 on March 31, 2015, 02:03:48 AM
Please look at the PDF my grandson helped me with, it contains one method of over unity we discovered in our research lab in the 50s.
Hi Arthur1. Thanks for posting this info. Looks interesting. If this is serious, then I have a question.
The 4-400A is rated for 400 Watts max plate dissipation, but you indicate 600 Watts from the plate to the
load at +2000V grid voltage. Will this not cause a 4-400A to burn out?
All the best...
It's fake.
Will a vacuum tube work without any plate voltage?...No, so a vacuum tube must be a normal work function. You pull
an electron current through the cathode/plate system, then the grid modulates a signal onto it. Without something to remove
electrons from the plate it will generate a negative space charge and current flow will stop. The plate is nearer to itself
then it is to the grid.
@Arthor1
Wow bad timeing to have presented this on April fools day.
I'm afraid you might go to your deaaaath, with your secret lost
to the world. I hope that you will take your bad taste with you
as well. You could at least have left us laughing when you went !
May you R.I.P.
floor-
Quote from: Arthur1 on March 31, 2015, 02:03:48 AM
Please look at the PDF my grandson helped me with, it contains one method of over unity we discovered in our research lab in the 50s. We were shut down by the government and even worse. I no longer fear them as I am very oldand do not expect to live much longer. Please share it as this will be my last communication. Love, Arthur S.
I think the key is the filament made out of thoriated tungsten.
@telecom
If you think the idea is a serious one, then I hope you will investigate it
and I hope as well, that it is valid.
In whch case my apologies for haveing been so rude to a dying man.
floor
I also agree with mscoffman,
This experiment can be done by old vacuum valves (pentode tube) and efficiency can not be upper than %20 because of space charce as mscoffman said. I have pentodes but I wont try it (I can do the math why it wont work).
More than 100 years usage of vacuum tubes and nobody knew! Amazing!
Quote from: MileHigh on April 01, 2015, 07:49:31 PM
More than 100 years usage of vacuum tubes and nobody knew! Amazing!
PJH went own the same rat hole.
Why not simply use undisturbed diode arrays?
Quote from: orbut 3000 on April 01, 2015, 08:32:32 PM
Why not simply use undisturbed diode arrays?
Because in 1958 Brillioun proved that cannot work.
Quote from: idegen on April 01, 2015, 06:32:49 PM
Thank you for the gift! How arises the "free energy"? And what is the working principle?
Thoriated filament decreases the work function of the tube, this is well known.
Thorium is an alpha emitter.
Alpha particles bombard negatively charged filament which emits electrones.
The rest works as a linear accelerator
Now I wish I kept the 4-400s I had in storage for years! Looks like Arthur's team managed to suck electrons out from the aether using the humble vacuum tube. So that is the real reason for transistorization! To stop us once again from OU!
This is not much different from the old "Nuclear Battery"
You know the tiny isolated sphere inside a larger evacuated sphere.
The small sphere is covered with radium and when electrons are ejected they are captured on the outer sphere.
It produces small current with high voltage around 100 watts.
I would think the same thing would work with a thoriated tungsten filament or any heated thoriated tungsten as the emitter.
I can't see the electrons actually having enough momentum to strike the plate.
Quote from: pomodoro on April 02, 2015, 03:53:14 AM
I can't see the electrons actually having enough momentum to strike the plate.
I can easily detect thoriated tungsten with my Geiger counter from several inches through air so there must be some high energy emissions.
I'm sure the emissions would increase drastically when heated.
Lumen:'I'm sure the emissions would increase drastically when heated'
Quantum laws are beyond the reach of thermodynamic laws.uranium or thorium don't get more radio-active on heating no.I was just explaining this in the vortex thread yesterday
Telecom:'Alpha particles bombard negatively charged filament which emits electrones.'
The radioactivity is far too weak to do anything.thorium is added to reduce work-function of tungsten so it emits at lower temps
Quote from: profitis on April 03, 2015, 12:00:02 AM
Lumen:'I'm sure the emissions would increase drastically when heated'
Quantum laws are beyond the reach of thermodynamic laws.uranium or thorium don't get more radio-active on heating no.I was just explaining this in the vortex thread yesterday
Yeah, the two worlds act as though they are totally isolated, which they are, by many electron volts. This is what encouraged Rossi
to build the LENR Hot Cat reactor. The LENR nuclear laws stay the same even after a drastic upshift in the cat reactors base
temperature.
By the way I read a quote by a person who said that Thorium's use in vacuum tube cathodes is unrelated to it's nuclear energy
situation. I found that somewhat reassuring. I cannot refind that quote.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Let's assume the device works and electrons hit the plate. Do they power the load or heat up the plate?
Markscoffman:'Yeah, the two worlds act as though they are totally isolated, which they are'
Until they are correctly juxtaposed they remain isolated yes.its like a safe with a turny knob,you turnit the non-quantum knob until you clickit direct on the quantum treasures,then you stay in that loop and manipulate,as rossi and co are now doing.if there is a hysteresis loop in this guys vacuo-tube then it may work.do you see a hysteresis loop in this layout markscoffman
Pomodoro:'Let's assume the device works and electrons hit the plate. Do they power the load or heat up the plate?'
Both.reduce R your load and heat may go up?or vise versa?do you see a hysteresis loop here?bear in mind that an electric field can manipulate work-function of the emitter
Quote"The grid could get damaged from excessive current"
LOL, yeah.
https://youtu.be/QuE--xlkTYk
Quote from: joel321 on April 03, 2015, 04:38:05 AM
LOL, yeah.
https://youtu.be/QuE--xlkTYk (https://youtu.be/QuE--xlkTYk)
I think Joel is damaged from excessive use of drugs....possibly vaccine abuse.
Bill
There I will share link for true termionic OU generator, which requieres no any input of energy, experimentaly tested!
Also by its detailed description is obivious how to replicate and on which principles it operates.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/w3jvt0z3336f9h7/Maksvelov%20demon%20pobedjen.pdf
Device can be improved by using metall plates with different work functions opposing each other instead magnetic field!
Using Wolfram metall (Electon capturer - high eV) coated with recomended Ag-O-C legure on bottom, kann be stacked one on top of other in vaccum only separated by isolating poles(columns) or any other isolating spacer
Vladok:'Using Wolfram metall (Electon capturer - high eV) coated with recomended Ag-O-C'
Ag-O-Cs has very low wf(around 0.1ev).it stretches into the room-temperature far-infrared. What happens to tungsten's wf if you put electric field of 2000v across plates.it plummets.big clues
Good article, shame about the very low current.
Imagine ionizing some rarefied gas and using the same principle to isolate fast from slow molecules with a magnet and an electric field.
Cold and hot electrodes as a result. Maxwels demon!
Low current, true. It will better serve as near 100% thermal converter in high temperature surroundings, like molten salt of thermal storage of thermo-solar powerplants. Number of thermal electrons rise considerably with higher temperature.
FETE.field enhanced thermionic emission.Schottky emission. Schottky effect:
In electron emission devices, especially electron
guns, the thermionic electron emitter will be biased
negative relative to its surroundings. This creates an
electric field of magnitude F at the emitter surface.
Without the field, the surface barrier seen by an
escaping Fermi-level electron has height W equal to
the local work-function. The electric field lowers the
surface barrier by an amount Δ W, and increases the
emission current. This is known as the Schottky
effect (named for Walter H. Schottky) or field
enhanced thermionic emission. It can be modeled
by a simple modification of the Richardson
equation, by replacing W by (W − ΔW).big clues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwhdrZ-jmv0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwhdrZ-jmv0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzyXMEpq4qw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3av6moJd4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM3av6moJd4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_AJRIsNlR0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_AJRIsNlR0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhD6XyZatXE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhD6XyZatXE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2prKspHY2Ww (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2prKspHY2Ww)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWTseOLOXg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWTseOLOXg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n4WVRKkmww&list=PLDO2sH8SYA_3_g4nG7q9R0ZGzCwAAcI-z (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n4WVRKkmww&list=PLDO2sH8SYA_3_g4nG7q9R0ZGzCwAAcI-z)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryCr4Y7ypLA&index=2&list=PLDO2sH8SYA_3_g4nG7q9R0ZGzCwAAcI-z (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryCr4Y7ypLA&index=2&list=PLDO2sH8SYA_3_g4nG7q9R0ZGzCwAAcI-z)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw5DoV26RJY&list=PLDO2sH8SYA_3_g4nG7q9R0ZGzCwAAcI-z&index=9
:D
Isn't this the same experiment?
http://vaedrah.angelfire.com/vacuum_tubes.htm (http://vaedrah.angelfire.com/vacuum_tubes.htm)
Pulp: 'Isn't this the same experiment?'
Notice de forests connection of the plate back onto the filament at the positive side of battery.same setup as mr sadaly.the emissions leave a charge deficit on the filament itself.
Quote from: profitis on April 08, 2015, 02:00:12 PM
Pulp: 'Isn't this the same experiment?'
Notice de forests connection of the plate back onto the filament at the positive side of battery.same setup as mr sadaly.the emissions leave a charge deficit on the filament itself.
So mr Sadaly invented Lee de Forest's Vacuum Triode?
Pulp:'So mr Sadaly invented Lee de Forest's Vacuum
Triode?'
Did de forest bias the grid positive with 2000volts?only mr sadaly's plate is biased same as de forest's.means sadaly's plate will attract electrons after all
So let us recap: 1) we have 2000volt enhanced emission ontop of thermal emission.2)we have electrons that are definitely going to fling past that grid and hit the plate.3) we have a positively biased plate due to charge deficit on the filament
If the grid is pulsed positive then your anode load filament current is for free. Electric fields do accelerate electrically charged particles. A constant voltage on the grid to cathode is problematic. Instead of a dc high voltage supply you could use a pulsed tank circuit which uses the capacitance of the tube in parallel with an inductance. The magnetic field produced by the inductance element could be used to bend the electron path to miss the grid completely. A coating of flurescent material on the inside of the tube could show how many secondary electrons from the anode you were getting by producing light. Back in the day they used a tube like this to test capacitors. The capacitor under test would alter the rlc parameters of the grid tank. When you hit resonance the tube would turn green. They also used them in old radio sets as a tuning aid. Of course you will need a source of power to power your accelerator circuit. If the grid tank is excited by rf input from somewhere you have yourself a radio. If however your tube accelerating field is aligned with say an extremely low frequency (dc high voltage field) you could pull some energy from the air.
'A constant
voltage on the grid to cathode is problematic.'
Not necessarily.it may be beneficial in this case if an electron cloud is sucked out the filament and hovvered or bounced at the grid/plate in this tube.the hysteresis can leave constant positive charge on plate under just right push-pull dog-tail hurricane.if there's some ping-pong going on between grid and plate of primary or secondary electron billiards it may be advantageous.
I wonder if anyone has even bothered to try this yet since its interjection.would be lovely to hear from them
Quote from: profitis on April 12, 2015, 03:07:15 AM
'A constant
voltage on the grid to cathode is problematic.'
Not necessarily.it may be beneficial in this case if an electron cloud is sucked out the filament and hovvered or bounced at the grid/plate in this tube.the hysteresis can leave constant positive charge on plate under just right push-pull dog-tail hurricane.if there's some ping-pong going on between grid and plate of primary or secondary electron billiards it may be advantageous.
The electrons accelerated by the grid to cathode electric field would end up bombarding the collector. The collector would experience braking radiation and start emitting all sorts of photons. Most of which would be absorbed by the collector metal and it would get hot. I believe the idea here is that the collector will become negatively charged relative to the cathode. The cathode to grid field accelerating the free electrons emitted from the cathode which somehow get stuck in the collector. With the grid being held positive most of the recoil electrons will get pumped through the grid circuit increasing it's current and voltage demands. Anyway you look at this you still need to maintain. initiate, or utilize an accelerating electric field. If the tube is somehow located in an electric field then the total energy of the electrons striking the collector would be greater than one would expect by the grid to cathode potential alone. Tough experiment. You also need to monitor nuclear changes in the collector metal. You bombard a metal with fast electrons now and again a nucleus is going to get messed with. I always wondered if you accelerated an electron to the point that it creates a heavy electron it could become an antiproton. Same mass but of opposite charge. If the antiproton collides with a normal proton the charge disappears and you get two neutrons. or a proton neutron electron thing like deuterium or a complete conversion of mass to energy/anniahalation. Probably why we don't see alot of natural antimatter around the big bang just couldn't get them there electrons up to speed without running into something to change the acceleration into light.
Quote from: sparks on April 12, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
The electrons accelerated by the grid to cathode electric field would end up bombarding the collector. The collector would experience braking radiation and start emitting all sorts of photons. Most of which would be absorbed by the collector metal and it would get hot. I believe the idea here is that the collector will become negatively charged relative to the cathode. The cathode to grid field accelerating the free electrons emitted from the cathode which somehow get stuck in the collector. With the grid being held positive most of the recoil electrons will get pumped through the grid circuit increasing it's current and voltage demands. Anyway you look at this you still need to maintain. initiate, or utilize an accelerating electric field. If the tube is somehow located in an electric field then the total energy of the electrons striking the collector would be greater than one would expect by the grid to cathode potential alone. Tough experiment. You also need to monitor nuclear changes in the collector metal. You bombard a metal with fast electrons now and again a nucleus is going to get messed with. I always wondered if you accelerated an electron to the point that it creates a heavy electron it could become an antiproton. Same mass but of opposite charge. If the antiproton collides with a normal proton the charge disappears and you get two neutrons. hmmmmmmmmm
Then you could target U238 (which readily absorbs neutrons) and, after a while, it will convert into another element...Plutonium. Of course, this might be problematic with some authorities.
Bill
Sparks'You also need to monitor nuclear changes in the collector metal'
And/or the emitter metal.depends on the profitis points(breakdown points) of the constituent elements(assuming we have a loop). The schottky field enhancement emission is going to do one definite thing that everyone can agree on: lower the barrier for electron ejection.knowing this we can ask ourselves,now that the emission barrier is lowered,what effect would the temperature T now have on emission rates on a drasticly lowered emission barrier.there's going to be some cooling down there somewhere
Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 12, 2015, 05:36:55 PM
Then you could target U238 (which readily absorbs neutrons) and, after a while, it will convert into another element...Plutonium. Of course, this might be problematic with some authorities.
Bill
I think running around with an antimatter gun would raise a couple of eyebrows also.
Quote from: profitis on April 12, 2015, 08:08:57 PM
Sparks'You also need to monitor nuclear changes in the collector metal'
And/or the emitter metal.depends on the profitis points(breakdown points) of the constituent elements(assuming we have a loop). The schottky field enhancement emission is going to do one definite thing that everyone can agree on: lower the barrier for electron ejection.knowing this we can ask ourselves,now that the emission barrier is lowered,what effect would the temperature T now have on emission rates on a drasticly lowered emission barrier.there's going to be some cooling down there somewhere
Silly boy, you know electrons don't exist, SON. What's really happening is that the centrifugal/centripetal dielectric inertial plane is engendering a hypertrochoidal vortex in counterspace, expanding/contracting along the incommensurable hypercurvature of the counterspatial nodes of delineation. Since there are no electrons, there is no "emission barrier", just _Denotatively_ expanding/contracting counterspatial dielectric inertial planes. Phi over Pi, QED. And if you don't believe this, you are as stupid as Einstein himself.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: TinselKoala on April 13, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Silly boy, you know electrons don't exist, SON. What's really happening is that the centrifugal/centripetal dielectric inertial plane is engendering a hypertrochoidal vortex in counterspace, expanding/contracting along the incommensurable hypercurvature of the counterspatial nodes of delineation. Since there are no electrons, there is no "emission barrier", just _Denotatively_ expanding/contracting counterspatial dielectric inertial planes. Phi over Pi, QED. And if you don't believe this, you are as stupid as Einstein himself.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
@TinseKoala,
Hey, that's pretty good! Shows you did your homework.
Quote from: TinselKoala on Today at 09:17:26 PM
---Silly boy, you know electrons don't exist, SON.'
Touche' il duce'.everdence please
Here's a better one:
Quote from: TinselKoala on Today at 09:17:26 PM
---Silly boy, you know electrons don't exist, SON.'
Is this a claim or argument? Please give your assumption-status QED :) (sarkeizen special)
QuoteI think Joel is damaged from excessive use of drugs....possibly vaccine abuse.
This was posted on April fools day. And since I don't believe that anything home made can "damage the grid" is really plausible....then I can conclude that: The poster is joking. That or trying to fool the forum lol.
Now that does don't mean that the poster (OP) did not pick a bad timing. But it is what it is.
Hello to all,
Mr Papimi...
maybe he's right, maybe is wrong
http://web.archive.org/web/20110721083527/http://www.papimi.gr/osc.htm (http://web.archive.org/web/20110721083527/http://www.papimi.gr/osc.htm)
regards
If this theory pans out it means tv crts are running at overunity. Hmmmm. Could be. You add up the heat the light (including hf light in the xray bands etc. I did get some weirdnesst happening when I powered up an iron coil with an old tv chassis. Two plasma brushes from the ends of the coil, an ion wind you could have sailed a toy boat with, blue white light from the "brushes" and a few dbs of audible noise resembling drawing air through your teeth from the coil ends. The ion wind felt cold. Started about 2' out from the coil ends which were facing down.
No typical purple corona discharge crispy blue white full spectrum look.
Respect this man !!!
This works ! And please stop using old school theory to map out a free energy current all the books don't account for a free energy state to every exist. All the universities in the world can get there head round it and ohms law will never permit it ... So get rid of ohms law in a free energy equation and throw away the stupid physics book just hold the dictionary of electrons in one hand and in the other all the missing free energy formulas that will one day be added...
Idiot school kids insulting work they have not built or tried let alone ever built a free energy system and there understanding of the electron is incompetent and incomplete ..
Electrons has strangeness to them they can and will do many things that don't fit normal physics but with this device its easy to spot the free electrons from aluminium and they alone can give an OU response Also the atomic boundaries that free electrons make up in aluminium, silver and quite a lot of other atoms are all electron donors... An electron avalanche effect is all you need and in this device I see it clearly possible taking into account the difference in atmospheric pressure inside and out side around the load with a directional path towards earth via the load ect .....
All free electrons from such atoms when liberated will excel orate towards earth and to some people its all at the speed of light that in fact is no true there is what we call quantum delay between voltage and current with current lagging behind the voltage .. Its not possible to measure the correct speed of current with an OS the screen only shows you the crest of the energy wave not the correct position of all the electrons in the stream of energy...
Electrons do not orbit there nuclei they quantum jump around it and to be honest one can also conclude that electrons can also do the same thing along a flowing currant. It is obvious with these simple facts that electron pressure can be self induced by such a effect. All those stupid out of date maths are just words and numbers they never fully confirm the finite quantum values that electrons demonstrate...
I have one special free energy 500w motor that runs at 4000 rpm at 00.01v at 00.01 amps completely destroying all know laws of physics.... This is only one of many free energy technologies I have ....
Another point is the load may also attract heavy alpha particles or even permit them to influence the electron exchange by means of particle field coherence ...... There are many other possibilities that can be stimulated to increase the end result but for now take this as a lessen in particle field observation than begin to look again at the electron and what it truly is !
Also the correct definitive construct of an electron is 2.2 trillion x and y particles that makes up one electron and is why an electron can be split in two.... You may also consider this as the reason you get a north and south pole in EMF but you can also achieve a mono pole electron field that it self would equate for 100% increase in power....
Allow me to fill your mind with what you don't know it will save you forty years of work and to that the most amazing thing about an electron is that can also be in two or more points of space and time at the same time you may consider this and observe that the electron could exist as only one electron divided into infinity.. This would indicate all mass in this dimension is sharing the same electron and that to me makes a lot of sense as from a so called nothing all that is was created. Nothing divided into infinity = one electron ! All the other particles represent an evolution of the first particle which is an electron.. Entropy and enthalpy are points of charge and discharge you can have one without the other and would be fair to say that all other energy that is an extension to that of the first electron are just small pockets of such energy enclosed like an moment of nothing in an envelope of time and space...
Just one proton has 1kw of energy trapped inside so please don't look at mass as if its empty its full to the point where no more energy can be kept inside. Let us also presume that one proton was to leak out some electrons and add them to the currant and that it self is more than possible.The life span of a proton is 36 billion years , THE UNIVERSE IS 13.8 BILLION years if protons did not leak out energy and lets say for now its impossible to determine what ones do than at the very second of the last second in the 36 billion year time scale all protons would just vanish.. I doubt that to be the case and the point here is if one mans technology was to show that its over producing energy and another man builds the same technology without the same result than the mass of the technology that is over producing energy has some very important protons in it hahahahah do you now see my point ???????????????????????????
So to the man in question please keep very safe your technology with this in mind and stay in touch !! I personally have been in search of such protons for the past 30 years . And to all the young up starts this universe is a supernatural one expect the unexpected and never trust an electric meter or a O S for measuring the quantum effects of an electron...
Any more idiots who spout out insults to anyone that present information in an up front and honest way should truly think there reasoning through and stay detached from personal remarks. Science has no place for egos and remember anything is possible even if at first it seems impossible.
Regards
ATOM1
Atom'the
most amazing thing about an electron is that can also
be in two or more points of space and time at the
same time you may consider this and observe that
the electron could exist as only one electron divided
into infinity..'
Heisenberg baby,heisenberg..mwa
I am reposting my test results for Arthur's setup here, since this is the original thread.
I tested with this using an Eimac 4-400A tube, using a setup
exactly as it was described by Arthur. I tried applying the 2000VDC to the
control grid and then the screen grid since Arthur didn't specify, but all
I was got was an internal arcing noise in the tube with either grid, and although the internal
arcing noise eventually stopped after several tests, the voltage on either grid would
still not go above about 400VDC. Not sure if that was due to continued internal arcing or
some other form of leakage or what. I had about 6,600 ohms of resistance connected to
the plate for the initial testing, and only tried removing the resistive load to compare when
my tests were not working (only a small voltage seen on the plate), so all my initial testing
was done with the 6,600 ohms (using appropriate power resistors in series) connected to the plate.
I could get between 4mA to 5mA grid current with the applied grid voltage set high
enough, but the voltage on the grid still would not go above 400V (measured
on my scope) and there was only a tiny output voltage on the plate with or without the
resistive load connected. The internal arcing may have damaged my tube, not sure, and those 4-400A
power tubes are not cheap. Since the tubes are so expensive ($120 USD or higher) I won't
buy a new 4-400A tube to try further. :) Maybe it really was just a hoax, but Arthur seemed to
know what he was talking about, so that is why I tried it. My circuit test setup was identical to the
schematic Arthur had provided. Too bad Arthur didn't stick around as I would be interested to
hear what he has to say about my failed tests. :)
All the best...
before we truly understood atoms structure, all theories are uncertain.
anyone knows how 1 electron and 1 proton able to become a stable hydrogen atom?
if so, please share the secret!