You're Joe Tinkerer and you managed to build something that produces some amount of electricity continually with zero input. You believe it's dangerous to simply "go public" with it, and that certain people will stop at nothing to prevent it's development and release, so patents and business startup ideas don't appeal to you. You're pretty much a nobody with a fantastic little invention, and you'd like to sell the working model along with a vow of silence about it to anyone willing to shell out a few hundred million for it.
How do you go about finding said folks, the ones who will try to buy you rather than kill you?
Well, according to the inventor, Paulo Correa, who apparently did create an overunity plasma device, they tried over 300 of the world's largest multinationals, and each one was disinterested. After that they ended up in the alternative energy circus and got nowhere, fast. Now he seems to have become a recluse, publishing mountains of aether related work.
Personally, I'd release it publicly (and this needs also to be done efficiently) simply to get it out there. The only people allowed to make money out of overunity seem to be the ones who pretend to have discovered something but in reality have not.
Have a read of the document by Correa, its quite interesting
http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/labofex_int.php
http://www.overunity.com/1821/open-source-vs-patenting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft
Congrats to you on your device first off.
Quote from: hamster on March 31, 2015, 06:26:48 AM
You're Joe Tinkerer and you managed to build something that produces some amount of electricity continually with zero input....
You get a provisional patent that gives you protection at minimal cost for a year. You then start a 60 day Kickstarter project to see if you can generate 2 million $ and have facebook or Exxon purchase your product for the extra millions of $ you are looking for in those 60 days. Like the Oculus Rift making 2 million on Kickstarter then getting purchased by FaceBook for 400 million and some stock.
If you succeed in 59 days then you live out the rest of your life on a beach or in a cave of your choice as desired. If you don't succeed by day 59, you cancel your Kickstarter project, no one gets charged, you owe no one anything and you go home with your device that wasn't as desirable as you thought it was.
If you can't do that much then you might as well shelve it, open source it, or give it to a millionaire for free as they will surely find a way to steal it from you if you don't have a patent.
Hope I'm wrong but I highly doubt anyone is going to give you the hundred of millions you seek. As Westinghouse told Tesla, it's basically no good if you can't put a meeter on it. Why would they sell your device when they can sell crap batteries that keep customers coming back for more? Sad but true, so we all wait patiently for someone like you to say "screw you" big business and open source your idea for all to benefit from.
Use it as bait to get a good job working for the corps.that way you sit with a nice comfy salary for the rest of ur life.or..shrink the power output of the device drasticly,change its name to the new 'barometric' harvester and dump it straight into the market.you'l make a few mils riding the wave until you get a knock on your front door but by that time you pay the agent off but only if he can prove that its overunity :)
The first and most important foundation for a "free energy generator" is that you really have invented such a thing. So far, nobody succeeded. The people who claimed that they have a "free energy generator" could never provide proof. And because they could not provide proof they tell strange stories to create interest.
If you have a real "free energy generator" and if you can prove that it works you will get all the attention you seem to crave for.
Of course you will experience all the "normal" things of life: People will try to steal it or make a better version of it. And like it happens with all important inventions, others will claim they have invented it before you. Usually the real inventor is always forgotten and gets no or very little reward.
So, nothing special there. Just have a "free energy generator" an prove it. Then everything will proceed in the "normal" way.
The "free energy scene" is like the "esoterica scene", there is never proof and strange stories is the only thing you will ever get. And many people make good money with it.
Greetings, Conrad
You document it, describe it, com[pletely, clearly and accurately before you publish or tell people about it.
You don't need to explain or even know WHY it works, let go of that all together.
Give it away freely, and at least half the people on the planet will gladly mail you a dollar.
cheers
Conradelekrto:'So far, nobody succeeded. The people who claimed that they have a "free energy generator" could never provide proof.'
Absolute bullshit.an australian guy was selling his ambient thermoluminescent panels for years and only recently 'vanished'.he mustve made millions of dollars(AUS).shit-loads of people are now in direct possession of these everlasting lightbulbs.(PS:he never claimed overunity but it was and is direct overunity.its impossible to have a lightbulb glowing nonstop in the dark without fuel.)
Just Sell The Plans here on Overunity for $30 per customer.
.
So Profitus, who is willing to sell one of these? Another urban legend maybe instead?
Quote from: profitis on April 01, 2015, 12:57:17 PM
an australian guy was selling his ambient thermoluminescent panels for years and only recently 'vanished'.he mustve made millions of dollars(AUS).shit-loads of people are now in direct possession of these everlasting lightbulbs.(PS:he never claimed overunity but it was and is direct overunity.its impossible to have a lightbulb glowing nonstop in the dark without fuel.)
As I said, there is a strong resemblance to the "esoterica scene". Those who want to believe will believe. And believe can generate money. Ask your local pastor or a faith healer near you. The beacon of faith glows forever in the dark and is fuelled by the human brain, no over unity necessary. It is a true miracle, believe is stronger than logic, any time.
Why would a person having invented everlasting glow panels vanish with his millions? Why would all people who purchased everlasting glow panels keep them a secret? May be they are all dead, killed by the oil industry? May be they have all been visited by men in black? And who broke this wall of silence and told Profitis? And Profitis then made the incredibly dangerous mistake to write about it in a public forum! Profitis, it is high time that you vanish too, I fear for your life! A nick name is no shield, the NSA can look into everything, run!
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: FatBird on April 01, 2015, 02:49:31 PM
Just Sell The Plans here on Overunity for $30 per customer.
Why should I spend $30 for a plan of a light bulb which only glows? I bought the complete advanced handbook of the Bedini SG, which gives away the secret of OU. Very soon I will have a Bedini SG giving me free electricity (and really bright light bulbs) forever. As everybody knows, the Bedini SG works. Well, kind of works .....
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: profitis on April 01, 2015, 12:57:17 PM
An australian guy was selling his ambient thermoluminescent panels for years and only recently 'vanished'.he mustve made millions of dollars(AUS).shit-loads of people are now in direct possession of these everlasting lightbulbs.(PS:he never claimed overunity but it was and is direct overunity.its impossible to have a lightbulb glowing nonstop in the dark without fuel.)
http://contest.techbriefs.com/2015/entries/sustainable-technologies/5155-atre-continuous-electricity (http://contest.techbriefs.com/2015/entries/sustainable-technologies/5155-atre-continuous-electricity)
This has appeared in techbriefs contest. Is it free energy?
Conradelektro:'As I said, there is a strong resemblance to the "esoterica scene". Those who want to believe will believe. And believe can generate money. Ask your local pastor'
No fool.its based on wellknown scientific principal known as photon-upconversion(google it).the 'laws' of thermodynamics allow all wavelengths of light to up-convert to higher frequencies with no energy expense,except ambient infrared(strange hey,talk about prejudice).this guy sold hundreds thousands of these panels and may still be selling today but his old webdomain has ceased (foreverlight.com.au ).here's a conversation from just one satisfied customer http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63793-luminescent-lighting-using-zero-conventional-energy
Memoryman:'So Profitus, who is willing to sell one of these? Another urban legend maybe instead?'
Its no legend dude.if your anywhere near australia you may be able to track down satisfied customers or the inventor himself.this is the only case of an genuine overunity-machine that I know of that made it to market and made the inventor millions of moola.this panel glows down to -80degree celcius
Vineet_kiran:' http://contest.techbriefs.com/2015/entries/sustainable-technologies/5155-atre-continuous-electricity
'
Interesting.I see metals.I see metal junctions.I see water.what's to rule out galvanic corrosion here I wonder?
@Profitis:
Yes, the foreverlight foils are very interesting and it would be marvellous to get useful information about them.
But you have to admit, that based on the information available, one has to remain sceptical.
It really is like in the "esoterica scene", one can never find out what is going on. And this is the essence of it. The mystery is the story, not the facts (because there are no hard facts).
So, it comes down to: do I believe it or not?
Well, you have chosen to believe it, I do not.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: Spirit on April 01, 2015, 03:34:28 AM
http://www.overunity.com/1821/open-source-vs-patenting (http://www.overunity.com/1821/open-source-vs-patenting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft)
Open Source working and Ubuntu Linux got Mark Shuttleworth to the ISS. It works if you manage it right.
Thank you, Profitus, for a civil response. If there are hundreds of thousands sold, as you claim, there 'should be' some available on Ebay and similar places.
I vaguely recall reading about it years ago. It is NOT a free energy device but rather converts one form of energy to another; so does a incandescent lightbulb.
Also, having only green light of low intensity limits it's utility.
Memoryman:'It is NOT a free energy device but rather converts'
Far infrared light into visible light its free energy.certain fluorite gems do same,at room temperature.or you can just dope calcium fluoride with europium or gadolinium in the lab and get same effect.
Profitis, conversion is not the same as creation/magnification/amplification.
Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; it can only be converted into another form (including matter).
Where do you see energy being created?
Conradelektro:'Well, you have chosen to believe it, I do not.'
Because your silly
Memoryman:'Where do you see energy being'
Concentrated.when two ambient infrared photons resonate upwards into a single visible photon.you can shove a solar panel infront it.no more need for the sun.the temperature of the panels was always slightly below ambient due to this conversion-process
True, hard to make any money on free and alternative energy. I have not even raised but 60 bucks for improving my water batteries that supply power for years. And my fund raiser has been up quite some time. https://fundrazr.com/01KBhc?ref=tw_a77LPd_ab_1HvIRPZY9lI1HvIRPZY9lI (https://fundrazr.com/01KBhc?ref=tw_a77LPd_ab_1HvIRPZY9lI1HvIRPZY9lI)
No free energy: it takes a lot of energy to change ore to a pure form.