Does anybody know where "Patent Applied For" information can be found for this?
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:NetZero_Power_Generators_for_Sale#Official_Websites (http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:NetZero_Power_Generators_for_Sale#Official_Websites)
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Hmm
in the Carolinas...?
that should be easy !! [to verify]
thx
Chet
They also have another website and named it Joule Box and it's exactly the same thing but in LA California.
http://www.jouleboxusa.com/#!about/cu9i (http://www.jouleboxusa.com/#!about/cu9i)
Here is also another site called Eco- Gen and again the same thing
http://ecogenenergy.info/our-technology/
I have a friend that went for a demo. I'll call him to get more details
Luc
Well, I just got off the phone with my friend who went for a demo.
The generator was off the ground so he could see no wires going under it. It only had one wire coming out of the box to power the 30KW worth of loads. It operated for 45 minutes and it's internal 10KWh lithium battery bank was still at full charge.
I personally know and trust my friend.
Luc
8' by 7' weighing 6000 pounds. Vortex Reduction generator (great idea). But with that much tech and weight they can't be cheap.
Quote from: gotoluc on September 13, 2015, 09:42:37 PM
Well, I just got off the phone with my friend who went for a demo.
The generator was off the ground so he could see no wires going under it. It only had one wire coming out of the box to power the 30KW worth of loads. It operated for 45 minutes and it's internal 10KWh lithium battery bank was still at full charge.
I personally know and trust my friend.
Luc
Couple of things Luc
1- how was the 30kw load measured to be 30kw?
2- if it is a free energy/overunity device, why the need for a 10kwh battery bank?
So it is $5000.00 per kw to buy , and the smallest one for sale is the 60kw unit.
So who here has a spare $300 000.00 so we can pull one of these apart to see how it works?
Why would anyone think that an arranged demonstration of such a thing would reveal any trickery to a casual inspection?
When you go see a stage magic show, do you expect to be able to see how the performer manages to perform his tricks? If you can, it's not really a very good show, is it.
Ask these questions:
Where is a unit actually installed in a working situation, where it is used to power a home, a school, a hospital, or a military installation, without a connection to the local electric grid?
How many units have actually been sold, delivered and installed?
How many units has the _military_ bought or ordered?
Has the unit been demonstrated to any groups of electrical engineering graduate students from the local research university, who are free to make their own measurements and inspections?
Where does the company that makes these things get _their_ electricity from, to run their offices, factories and homes?
Quote from: tinman on September 14, 2015, 12:48:29 AM
So who here has a spare $300 000.00 so we can pull one of these apart to see how it works?
Don't sell your house yet. If this is the NetZero device we are talking about, the sales rep clearly stated it has an anti-tampering self-destruct mechanism installed. Soon as you lookie, no more workie.
Reference the interview on this page:
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:NetZero_Power_Generators_for_Sale
also being discussed here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20264-free-energy-sale-carolinas.html
perhaps we take closer "lookie"
Chet K
Quote from: ramset on September 14, 2015, 10:48:29 AM
also being discussed here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20264-free-energy-sale-carolinas.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20264-free-energy-sale-carolinas.html)
perhaps we take closer "lookie"
Chet K
If even the people at EF are saying "Sounds fishy"... then you know it's pretty darn fishy indeed.
Quote from: Dog-One on September 14, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Don't sell your house yet. If this is the NetZero device we are talking about, the sales rep clearly stated it has an anti-tampering self-destruct mechanism installed. Soon as you lookie, no more workie.
Reference the interview on this page:
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:NetZero_Power_Generators_for_Sale (http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:NetZero_Power_Generators_for_Sale)
Yeah... right. That will get them past the necessary legal certifications for home installation, for sure. Won't it?
Even Rossi isn't using that tired old out anymore.
There is a good possibility I can arrange a boondoggle expeditionary trip to LA and see it first hand. I would have with me the chief electrical engineer and facilities coordinator from my place of employment. We could easily arrive at the point of "put up or shut up" within the first hour. The facility I work at needs four megawatts non-stop, so they would either jump through their ass to accommodate us, or quickly indicate we are not the proper customer they wish to do business with. Either way I would be highly satisfied.
Quote from: Dog-One on September 14, 2015, 03:53:22 PM
There is a good possibility I can arrange a boondoggle expeditionary trip to LA and see it first hand. I would have with me the chief electrical engineer and facilities coordinator from my place of employment. We could easily arrive at the point of "put up or shut up" within the first hour. The facility I work at needs four megawatts non-stop, so they would either jump through their ass to accommodate us, or quickly indicate we are not the proper customer they wish to do business with. Either way I would be highly satisfied.
Would like to hear results of that! BTW - 4 Megawatts? Wow - Can you say what general sort of facility that is?
Quote from: e2matrix on September 14, 2015, 05:10:08 PM
BTW - 4 Megawatts? Wow - Can you say what general sort of facility that is?
Lets just say it is protected under the Department of Homeland Security. :)
Quote from: tinman on September 14, 2015, 12:48:29 AM
Couple of things Luc
1- how was the 30kw load measured to be 30kw?
2- if it is a free energy/overunity device, why the need for a 10kwh battery bank?
So it is $5000.00 per kw to buy , and the smallest one for sale is the 60kw unit.
So who here has a spare $300 000.00 so we can pull one of these apart to see how it works?
Hi Brad,
I'm not sure on the first question as I wasn't there for the demo and didn't bother asking my friend as it was clear to him they had enough loads and ran long enough that the battery bank wouldn't of been able to maintain its charge.
They are not using the word overunity or free energy. I'm quite sure they need the 10Kw lithium battery bank to get it started and I'm thinking it's also needed for the process to continue. They say the battery bank is being switch from parallel to series. My guess is parallel for the motor coil on time and series for the off time to use the HV flyback to keep the battery bank charged. Seems there's also other things they do to keep it going.
They are asking for a $4k deposit to order, then $4k on delivery and then it's $4k per month on a payment plan. They calculated it gives you $8K worth of electricity using California rates if the unite is operated 24/7
So far they have 15 orders (most all from overseas) and they need 15 more to start the first 30 unite build.
They have recently started the demos, so no units in operation yet.
I'll contact one of the reps to see how many details I can talk about here on the forum.
Luc
@ GoToLuc
Thank you for keeping us informed.
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Raoul Hamilton representing ECO-GEN ENERGY INC./SunAmerica Solar,INC located at 7247 Hayvenhurst Ave. Suite #A-6, Van Nuys, California, USA 91406 sent me a email to sign a Confidentiality and Non Disclosure Agreement. I must sign this before any further communication regarding details and demo. I appreciate this forum for discussion on said technology. So far from driving by and inspecting the facilities outside the office it looks inviting to do business. Great location across from the historical Van Nuys Airport. If you have a private plane or jet just fly in and check out this new invention. Great to be a new member of OverUnity.
Has anyone any more info on this?