New Magnetic-Levitators( FUNCTION AT ANY ANGLE IN RELATION TO GRAVITY ), Magnetic-Bearings, and DC-Brushless-Motors, and Levitating Novelty/Toys .
If anyone finds anything that I should properly and fully 'Patent', in what I am putting in this post, then please let me know .
( I have filed them at patent-offices, but not actually patented them )
I HAVE ATTACHED A PDF FILE, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST ( PUBLIC - THE DESIGNS.pdf ), containing my designs/inventions ( OR, download it at https://sites.google.com/site/johnbackermydesigns/pdf-file-containing-my-designs-inventions )
Also, below, are some pictures of my Magnetic-Levitators( only using permanent-magnets ) .
- The Levitators in the pictures are intended to FUNCTION AT ANY ANGLE IN RELATION TO GRAVITY, THEY ARE NOT JUST LEVITATORS .
In the PDF file, there are Magnetic-Levitators( FUNCTION AT ANY ANGLE IN RELATION TO GRAVITY ), Magnetic-Bearings ( and DC-Brushless-Motors ) and Levitating Novelty/Toys .
In the PDF file :
- Magnetic-Levitators - PDF-Pages 1 - 15
- Magnetic-Bearings - PDF-Pages 16 - 22
- DC Brushless-Motors - PDF-Pages 23 - 25
- Levitating Novelty/Toys - PDF-Pages 26 - 32
- More designs - PDF-Pages 32 - ..
This is genius
This opens up a whole world of possibilities, potential solutions to magnetic problems
the idea of anchoring it through magnetic attraction, then allowing the anchors and/or repellors to move in constrained degrees of motion.......
im going to be busy with this for a while, Thank you good sir !!!
P.S. - I applaud you for making this information public. Generally I am against patenting when it comes to "free energy",
but this is much bigger than that, so if you have a way to make money on certain aspects of your designs I say go for it, the toy industry might just make you rich.
This, is the very simplest of my designs, that should result in :
'Passive All Permanent Magnet Full levitation'
See the diagram below :
On a flat table, make a circle( using a magnetic-strip ), and inside of that circle, make another smaller-circle( using another magnetic-strip ).
- 'The Larger Circle'( 'A' ), should have it's North-Pole facing inwards towards the 'The Smaller Circle'.
- 'The Smaller Circle'( 'B' ), should have it's North-Pole facing outwards towards the 'The Larger Circle'.
Now, get a flat-disc-magnet( with a large hole in the middle), so, basically it is a 'Flat-Ring Magnet'( 'C' ), this 'Flat-Ring-Magnet' should be at least as large( in diameter ) as 'The Larger Circle' mentioned above, and, the symmetrical hole in the middle of this 'Flat-Ring-Magnet' should mean that the thickness of this 'Flat-Ring-Magnet' completely covers 'The Larger Circle' and the 'The Smaller Circle'( and obviously it covers the space in between 'The Larger Circle' and the 'The Smaller Circle' ) when 'The Smaller Circle' is symmetrically placed inside of the 'The Larger Circle' , and the 'Flat-Ring-Magnet' is placed above 'the larger circle'.
[ Note : In the diagram below, the upper-side( facing up to the sky ) of the 'Flat-Ring-Magnet' is the North-Pole, and the bottom-side( facing down to components labelled 'A' and 'B' ) of the 'Flat-Ring-Magnet' is the south-pole. ]
The result should be; 'Passive All Permanent Magnet Full levitation'
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From something I saw functioning on youtube yesterday, it seems that 'Earnshaw's Theorem' no longer applies to normal permanent-magnets, that 'Passive All Permanent Magnet Full levitation' has been possible for at least, just under a decade .
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If anyone( including manufacturing companys, patent-lawyers ) is interested in my designs, send me an email to john.backerwww@gmail.com
Earnshaw's theorem still applies, and always has.
even in the passive example above, if examined closely with no wind
I believe you will find his principals in perfect working order.
what changes is peoples interpretation of it.
- I have sent the youtube link to you, instead of posting it, for the reason described in the message.
Yes, but a passive-magnetic-levitation-device which visually( without magnification ) appears as stable as an electrical-magnetic-levitation-device , would certainly make many people think twice .
The video, is a strong indication that a built model of my simple designs could function , if anyone builds any of my designs, or anything similar, post them anywhere on this site .
Just to clarify, that last design I posted here on :
- Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 03:50:00 PM
I did not call that particular one an invention, and thats probably not one I would include in something I would send to a Patent-Registry.
Your drawings are nice, but until you have a working prototype to demonstrate, they are just fanciful and clever drawings, and Earnshaw's Theorem still holds.
You have misinterpreted what you are seeing in those toy train videos, by the way.
So get to work! Buy some magnets and construct a working prototype or two according to your drawings, and let's see how they perform.
Wondering if my hopefully new-invention DC-motors( in the PDF file for download ), which I thought up from my questions on following page http://overunity.com/15978/new-reactionless-motor-from-india/msg459441/#msg459441, could possibly be as efficient at generating electricity, as they should be as motors
I am told that the toy-maglev-train, specifically, the normal-permanent-magnet gliding along the train-tracks, is not fully-levitating, it is always touching one of the rails.
Therefore, that last and simplest design I posted on ( Reply #2 on: January 10, 2016, 03:50:00 PM ) will not fully-levitate.
When I thought it was full-levitation, I was going to post diagrams of what I thought might be possible polarity-details of the tracks( because the description avaliable, seemed incorrect ).
But now, the diagrams I have made, have made me wonder if there might actually be a design[ APART FROM MY INVENTIONS WHICH CAN BE DOWNLOADED ] that could result in that maglev-toy fully levitating, so, I will post some possible polarity-details of some new different versions of the toy-train-tracks to try and achieve full-levitation, I am trying to base these on the designs which pre-dated the 'Inverter-Magnet'/'Tractor-Beam-Magnet' .
[ OBVIOUSLY, I COULD JUST PUT IMAGES OF MY INVENTIONS WHICH CAN BE DOWNLOADED, but instead, I will post some new ideas ]
Below, diagram 'Version - 1' will not achieve full-levitation, but I wonder about 'Version - 2' and 'Version - 3', or what other design could achieve it
I didn't know about what can be achieved with Electrostatic-Levitation .
I just discovered, on youtube, that an electrically-charged( just with static-electricity, no batteries/mains power ) piece-of-plastic, can levitate a hoop( made of very thin shopping-bag-plastic ), and it looks like it could do that stably enough, although I don't know if that charge would dissipate in air.
So, I think that another version of a toy-maglev-train, could possible use Electrostatic-Levitation instead of permanent-magnets, although obviously it would be very-very difficult to make a shape to levitate, that would resemble a train or anything else
( But in I have seen recent inventions of extremely ultra-light gel-like( or foam ) like materials, made out of all kinds of things, and at least some of those could be levitated using Electrostatic-Levitation )
Quote from: TinselKoala on January 12, 2016, 01:24:49 AM
Your drawings are nice, but until you have a working prototype to demonstrate, they are just fanciful and clever drawings, and Earnshaw's Theorem still holds.
You have misinterpreted what you are seeing in those toy train videos, by the way.
So get to work! Buy some magnets and construct a working prototype or two according to your drawings, and let's see how they perform.
I agree your drawings are interesting but you have to build it to understand why they won't work. Most people on here spend hundreds of hours building things that don't work and every time they do they learn something. I have a huge stack of magnets on my desk I have collected over the years and I am continuously trying different configurations and to date I have never managed to get free magnet levitation (unless of course I spin one or use diamagnetic materials)
Just pick your most simplest design you have and go to ebay or amazon etc spend $10 on some magnets and build it.
( This is guest1289 , this is my other account , because of other things I'm doing )
Yes, of course you're right, building something is the only way to try and detect any potential in a design.
But I won't be able to build anything, for reasons I won't waste time typing.
( different people saying that, doesn't make it any simpler )
( and if hypothetically I did, and I would probably fail, but that does not mean someone else could not get a design working later on )
Anyone could try and see if any of my designs could work.
( maybe you could look at magnet-motor-1, magnet-motor-2, and the versions of magnet-motor-3 that I have posted very recently on http://overunity.com/15774/permanent-magnet-motor/165/#.Vr-up7QrJH0 , you could design all sorts of variants of magnet-motor-2 and magnet-motor-3, which are based on the same principle.
of course, no magnet-motor can function, I just like designs which make you wonder specifically why they won't function etc )
All-Permanent-Magnet-Full-Levitation is a completely different subject, and I think some designs could function .
Keep in mind, ideas like a very large-flat-magnetic-surface floating above one of the arrays-of-tiny-spaced-magnets that I have posted( or in the document posted containing my designs ), or, over a halbach-array .
Or, even ideas like 1 halbach array, floating above another halbach array , etc, etc.
( I'm assume that I have not invented any new type of array-design, maybe I should check, and they are probably too similar to halbach-arrays to be new )
You can have arrays where the tiny-magnets are spaced apart, or, not spaced apart.
Arrays make it a lot easier to achieve levitation.
( I did see an electric-motor on a site, which uses a halbach array to levitate the rotating component inside the array circle, without power, but I'm not sure if it also levitates along the axis of the axle. )
I will see if I can find the webpage, I think it may have been a free-energy related site
I had forgotten to post the methods by which "All-Permanent-Magnet-Complete Levitation" should be able to be achieved, successfully, by using only the most commonly available shapes and sizes of magnets, they are in the diagram below showing 3 methods( 3 METHODS.JPG ).
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And also below, is the diagram of a magnet-motor I included in something I filed at the patent-registry in the middle of 2015 .
This magnet-motor uses 2 flat-toroidal-magnets on top of each other, but with space in between, and in between is a rotating component which is shaped like an aircraft-wing in order to gain lift in that particular magnetic-field, which should result in propulsion.
( and, a triangle-shape is also mentioned as an alternative to the aircraft-wing-shape )
Two diagrams of that magnet-motor design are below .
( that document was all very poorly hand-drawn )
And also, after the pictures, I have attached a Word-Document containing the description of that magnet-motor from mid-2015
While I have been posting on the thread below
http://overunity.com/16448/modified-electrophorus-precharged-variable-capacitor/msg476636/#new
I'm thinking of modifications to the design( designs ) posted on the thread, and I'm posting it here first so as not to fill up the other thread with 'my lots of text without offering significant contributions to the development' in that thread.
Basically, the designs in the thread above eliminates the requirement for the ground-plate( electret ) and the top-metal-plate to touch each other in order to cause charge-separation , it is done by adding circuitry to the electrophorus.
My idea is to eliminate the need for the top-metal-plate to be moved up and down, since it is probably not necessary, and can just be done through the circuitry .
However, since I won't be able to design my own circuit at the moment, my idea is to wire the electrophorus all up to one of those slide-switches like the ones in clock-radios which you slide-along to select the different functions am/fm/sleep/set, so one switch like that, can have 5-functions.
However, my idea is to make this sliding switch out of a free-rolling-toy-train( a good-quality one ) rolling along a good-quality toy-train-track, and as the train-wheels pass over different parts of the track they close-circuits and open-circuits.
Although, I would prefer to actually use my permanent-magnet-levitation methods to actually use a fully-levitating( or almost fully-levitating if makes it easier) toy-train instead, in order to greatly reduce friction, however then the circuits would have to be opened or closed with contactless-magnetic-flip-flop-switches ( or with brushes if it makes it easier ) .
Quoteguest1289
QuoteMy idea is to eliminate the need for the top-metal-plate to be moved up and down, since it is probably not necessary, and can just be done through the circuitry .
And that could be done by replacing the ground-plate( electret ) with an earthed-wire( or a ground-plate connected to an earth-wire ) and then opening and closing the connection to the earth
guest1289QuoteAnd that could be done by replacing the ground-plate( electret ) with an earthed-wire( or a ground-plate connected to an earth-wire ) and then opening and closing the connection to the earth
But of course, when turning-off the earthed-wire( or a ground-plate connected to an earth-wire )
, by opening the circuit, afterwards you would also have to drain of any charge remaining in the earthed-wire( or a ground-plate connected to an earth-wire ).
And, if you need to use an actual ground-plate instead of just a wire( or earthed-wire ), could you charge either a ground-plate connected to an earthed-wire, or, a ground-plate( electret ), by connecting one side of it( top or bottom, or sideways side ) to the earth, and then connecting it's other side also to the earth( and probably using a diode or something to keep current flowing in one direction ).
Of course this would all be done as a solid-state-device ( but since I still won't be able to design a circuit, I would still be sticking to my train on track, or levitating-train sliding-switch idea, for now )
Quote from: guest1289 on March 08, 2016, 12:13:36 PM
And that could be done by replacing the ground-plate( electret ) with an earthed-wire( or a ground-plate connected to an earth-wire ) and then opening and closing the connection to the earth
@guest1289:
1) Please read about the Earnshaw theorem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnshaw%27s_theorem
http://www.ru.nl/hfml/research/levitation/diamagnetic/levitation-possible/
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/marty/diamag/ (try to understand that)
It says that levitation with magnets (electrostatic fields or gravity) alone is not possible.
2) You mention not to move the top plate of an electrophorus and to harvest the (very small) charge by help of a switch (or circuit) to earth ground.
I tried that and will investigate further. The huge problem is the very small amount of charge. All electric components I have, for instance capacitors and diodes, lose that charge because of their practical limitations.
Greetings, Conrad
Guys, isn't better to make a Wimshurst machine, which (I guess) generate more serious voltages by applying comparable work effort? (The lift Vs push on lever)
Btw, there are lifters based on static (HV) electricity, so how is the Earnshaw's theorem precised?
Talking about levitation generaly, there is a project on my mind. I want to make a model of UFO ;) The idea is to print several S shaped top part (the shape will create a toroidal wortex) and the smaller bottom shaped part (also creating the wortex and together forming assymetrical capacito) Top and bottom part will rotate and by using the Wimshurst principle they will generate strong static field ,which than change to torus rotating field (due to shapes) Leading to propulsion forces ;)
The plan for my next 5 years ;)
conradelektroQuote@guest1289:
1) Please read about the Earnshaw theorem: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnshaw%27s_theorem
http://www.ru.nl/hfml/research/levitation/diamagnetic/levitation-possible/
http://www.physics.ucla.edu/marty/diamag/ (try to understand that)
It says that levitation with magnets (electrostatic fields or gravity) alone is not possible.
Yes, I am very familiar with 'Earnshaw theorem'( and the wikipedia-page on non-powered magnetic-levitation ), and diamagnetic-levitation which easily achieves full-levitation.
But, the point is, people who have actually achieved Full-Levitation, just using permanent-magnets, do not defeat 'Earnshaw theorem', because there is always a little bit of movement down at an very small level, so it is not sufficiently stable-levitation to defeat 'Earnshaw theorem', even though it visually appears stable enough.
The only proof I can offer is the following post by sm0ky2
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469712/#msg469712
( I created the above thread just to show some extremely simple designs that would be too simple to send to the patent-registry )
sm0ky2QuoteI myself have had several objects levitated for vast amounts of time, purely by magnetic force, without any constraints, tethers, or framework.
all within exact accordance with Earnshaw's Theorem. There was, in fact, a motion within the magnetic field.
I cannot personally, discount any or all wind, ambient changes in the magnetic field, physical vibration of the framework or surface it sits upon.
therefore, I can't say definitively, that all motion was a result of Earnshawnian motion.
However, it becomes clear in ANY permanent-magnetic levitation situation, that there is always motion.
Motion, which can often breach magnetic barriers causing the levitation to fail, or the levitating object to move outside of the boundaries.
QuoteWhat modern-day scientists take this to mean is:: there is always an instability, that prevents perfect levitation.
This is not necessarily true. As proven by Dr Don Herbert (Mr Wizard) in the 1950's, when he invented the principals that make the MagLev Train possible.
But you would have to read all of sm0ky2's post, and sm0ky2 also said somewhere that 'earnshaw' stated that 'full-levitation' is not possible because there would always be a continual movement( however small ) which would be 'perpetual motion'( and perpetual motion is not possible ).
For whatever reason, people do not put their 'full-levitation' devices which just use 'permanent-magnets' and no-electricity, onto the internet, and it must be the same or similar reason why I have not been able to find a company that would be interested in my 'all-permanent-magnet-full-levitation' designs'.
( And my possibly 'very new invention' electric-motor designs have also not gained any interest, although, I think due to circumstances( and to something I posted ), they were lost to other people )
( My more advanced designs, posted in the first post of 'this thread', are designed to work at any angle in relation to gravity, and work on principles having the same effect as the 'inverter-magnet'( or 'tractor-beam-magnet' ) which are demonstrated working on table tops in youtube-videos, but my designs use that effect as part of full-levitation.
( When I designed the first one, I didn't know about the 'inverter-magnet' and the similar achievements )
Quote2) You mention not to move the top plate of an electrophorus and to harvest the (very small) charge by help of a switch (or circuit) to earth ground.
I tried that and will investigate further. The huge problem is the very small amount of charge. All electric components I have, for instance capacitors and diodes, lose that charge because of their practical limitations.
- Maybe it's possible to temporarily move the static-charge from the 'ground-plate( electret )' to somewhere else, and then put it back, moving the static-charge backwards, and forwards ( but I assume that could quickly deplete the charge )
- The idea I typed was to connect one side of the ground-plate to the earth, and then also connect the other side of the ground-plate to the earth, and include some type of diode, and charge it up like a capacitor. BECAUSE I am sure I have read of claimed-overunity generators that claim to do this, and I thought it would provide 'at least' enough power for the electrophorus.
( And maybe base it on the idea of a cathode and anode, in the same way you can get electrical-current from organic things like lemons etc, but there must be more advanced materials for cathodes and anodes, to get energy from the earth, things I know little about, like ferroelectric's /piezoelectric's etc, )
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The Reason I Have Started Posting My Ideas On My Own Thread First
Recently I remembered that 'Moderated-Threads' exist, it worried me, because if I post something important on someone elses thread, it could be deleted by a moderator, and they could submit my idea to a patent-registry etc.
You're a much higher level member than I am, and for all I know, you could be granted permission to moderate your thread at any time. I know very little about how this site works.
I intend to post summarized versions of my ideas onto your thread, because I do start waffling on about things which don't help.
( I can't remember the symbols for components on circuit diagrams, but of course I should look them up.
I'm not in a position to think about advanced things like circuits/electronics, so I avoid them as much as possible, which is almost impossible. I try to stick to the simplest things .
( I would be inspecting and designing circuits, if I was in different circumstances )
I will continue checking your thread, and if I think of something that actually helps, I will post it on your thread ( after I have posted it on mine first )
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John.K1QuoteGuys, isn't better to make a Wimshurst machine, which (I guess) generate more serious voltages by applying comparable work effort? (The lift Vs push on lever)
conradelektro has a reason for focusing on the electrophorus, as far as I understand it's as a more powerful or efficient replacement for processes which utilize the piezoelectric-effect , I read that the piezoelectric-effect is used in big-industry processes, but the only device I have ever actually seen is shoes designed to generate electricity directly from the piezoelectric-effect.
I have read about a well known 'Wimshurst machine'( or Wimshurst like machine ) which is claimed to be overunity and generates a lot of power, and no one knows how it actually works.
conradelektro's reason for starting with the electrophorus is because it is the very simplest electrostatic-generator, and he posted that just moving the plate 2mm generates 1000volts
He has studied all these Wimshurst like machines, and intends to move onto them.
But of course, if it's possible that the electrophorus can be further evolved, then something significant could be invented, and maybe how some other machine works, could be discovered.
( Things like, could it be possible that a wimhurst-like-machine could extract power from the earth, and, or the atmosphere, via a pump-like effect, by an imbalance in the system somewhere )
QuoteBtw, there are lifters based on static (HV) electricity, so how is the Earnshaw's theorem precised?
Is it anywhere near stable-levitation.
The closest thing I have seen is youtube videos of hoops made of extremely fine grocery-bag type plastic, levitated by a single statically-charged-piece-of-plastic, and I assume they have to continually move the statically-charged-piece-of-plastic under the hoop, to keep it from falling, but I don't know if that is the case.
( You don't mean the lifters that require the continual direct input of 1000's of volts )
The wikipedia pages for earnshaw's-theorem and magnetic-levitation says there is no still-design( a design with no moving parts, and no electrical-current input ), or combination of static-electricity-charges or permanent-magnets that can achieve continual full-levitation, but they include the term 'stable', and that where there is debate.
At the beginning of this post, is a quote by just one member who says he had made some devices which functioned successfully.
QuoteTalking about levitation generaly, there is a project on my mind. I want to make a model of UFO ;) The idea is to print several S shaped top part (the shape will create a toroidal wortex) and the smaller bottom shaped part (also creating the wortex and together forming assymetrical capacito) Top and bottom part will rotate and by using the Wimshurst principle they will generate strong static field ,which than change to torus rotating field (due to shapes) Leading to propulsion forces ;)
The plan for my next 5 years
And if it worked, would it be posted and publicized, are things that function, publicized, or has nothing ever worked, you'll only know if it works
Hi Guest, it is not a long time somebody was showing some machine which prints "arbitrary patterns" of magnet, and If I good remember the stable levitation has been shown?? What the theorem says about secondary magnetic field??
John.K1
QuoteHi Guest, it is not a long time somebody was showing some machine which prints "arbitrary patterns" of magnet, and If I good remember the stable levitation has been shown?? What the theorem says about secondary magnetic field??
I haven't heard of the machine you mention, which prints "arbitrary patterns" which I assume are of a magnetic-field.
Unfortunately I myself have never seen "stable levitation" , and I don't have the magnets( or sufficient magnets ) to make any of my designs, but if I was able to build even my very simplest designs, and get them working, I would certainly post it all.
"Secondary-field", if you mean the field of the levitating-magnet, I admit I don't know what the theorem says about that field.
The 'levitating-magnet' is levitated by multiple-magnets, and I wonder if that would cause the shape of it's field to be constantly changing in various areas by very-very small amounts, but changing more than the fields of the magnets which are levitating it.
- Most of my levitation-designs levitate a structure made of more than one magnet, and use more than one magnet to levitate the structure.
I think the simplest way to levitate things is to use arrays made of numerous tiny magnets, for both the levitating-structure, and for the design used to levitate the levitating-structure, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IN A WAY, IT IMITATES HOW DIAMAGNETIC-LEVITATION WORKS DOWN AT A MICROSCOPIC-LEVEL .
But if you had a suitably shaped and sized ( and weight ) single magnet( maybe like a very thin-flat rectangle ), you should be able to levitate it above an array of numerous tiny magnets, and have other magnets to stop it falling of the sides.
The 2 posts below show some of my very simplest levitation-designs, my more advanced designs are in the very first post of this thread .
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg476139/#msg476139
http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469597/#msg469597
If would be good if anyone could get any of my designs, or any similar design working, and post it anywhere , and let me know where .
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Since I can't provide evidence that any of my levitation-designs, or any of my other designs, would function successfully ( because I don't have the magnets to build them, and wouldn't find it easy due to some reasons ), there's nothing more I can do in that area.
I want to post two irrelevant ideas I had.
- My first idea is to do with the very-very-cheap cameras you can buy from various places that have a fixed-focus( you can't adjust the focus ), and they have a very small resolution by todays standards of 5-megapixels.
They take excellent pictures, and some people argue that they take better pictures than other cameras. The problem is that if you see something sufficiently far away that you want to photograph, it often won't show up on your photo because of the insufficient resolution.
The solution is incredibly simple, manufacturers could put some sort of fitting around the lens that would allow you to attach completely-manually-focused-lenses . It would convert these cameras into something just as good as cameras costing hundreds of dollars.
And I'm sure they could make much cheaper versions of completely-manually-focused-lenses for the idea. ( most people don't need a camera that uses power, electronics, and software just to run an auto-lens ).
My other is idea useless, but interesting. That is to select one of the cheapest models of the ancient computers of 82' or 83' that only had 32k memory, and then use it to control some sort of toy-size R/C vehicle, but also be able to keep track of it's constantly changing location in a specific area ( maybe using a method like radio-triangulation, or arrays of lights and sensors ).
( Back when I had the idea, which was when those computers were originally sold, I thought of a way of making it easier for a computer to communicate to external devices, which was to use blocks of light on the screen, which would be detected by a photoelectric-cell attached to the external-circuitry, and to input signals to the computer, you could hack a joystick )
Of course if you could do it with an even older personal-computer of the same specs or lower, that would be even more impressive, but the older machines were much more expensive.
The point is that since it's possible to create animations of a 3d-rotating-cube on most of these machines( an easy trick is to use the lowest-screen-resolution-mode ), and I have seen it or something similar achieved on many of them, that maybe you could achieve even more impressive on them.
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I based most of the versions of my magnet-motor-3 motors, on the pushing-down-force that is detected on the 'inverter-magnet'( tractor-beam-magnet ) demonstrated on tabletops on youtube, and the pushing-forward-force that is detected on the 'mendocino-motor-bearings' .
I only have magnets shaped like watch-batteries, although they are slightly larger, and I put them together to make cylinder-magnets, and then I put 2 cylinder-magnets next to each other to see what sort of propulsion I get( like in the 'inverter-magnet' and 'mendocino-motor-bearings' ), and I get various types of positive results, it's a pity there is no definitive very-simple-english set of laws on wikipedia, describing this exact situation.
But last time I played with the magnets, again I had all sorts of problems carrying out the tests, but I still got some positive results, however, this time it made me suspect if the only areas of propulsion in these particular motors are in the 'blue-circles-marked-x' in the 'Diagram-Below'.
This could mean that the top-view of the stator-shape in my magnet-motor-2 in the following post
http://overunity.com/15774/permanent-magnet-motor/msg473357/#msg473357
may have been a better idea, and then fit that idea into the magnet-motor-3 type of designs, like the picture below, which use ideas like multiple-linked-moving-magnets to overcome any possible problem of merge-points encountered in stators.
Hi Guest, the link for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drD416THU7Y - you can see there printing of magnets and also hovering magnets.
Bismuth axle rotor: This is an original idea from Sputins over at Energetic Forum. This comment is by Allen Burgess (Synchro1) from the oscillating Reed switch thread:
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"Attaching the diametric arc segment magnets to a tube positioned between the circular Hallbach arrays would add their magnetic repulsion to the bismuth axle along with the circular Hallbach arrays. This tube could extend beyond the ends of the Hallbach arrays and have sintered radial polarized ring magnets attached whose magnetic strength would help repel the bismuth axle also and act as levitator magnets for the over head coils; So we wind up with six major internal fields, and four major external fields. The diametric arcs for powering in the center, and the radial polarized monopolar fields for precision levitator positioning on the ends; All focusing their combined fields inward to the repelling bismuth axle along with the unidirectional Hallbach rings. The central tube can run through the inside of the Hallback array frames and and the radial end rings and be perfectly balanced, with the diametric arc segments glued to the center. We'd see four rings and the two arc magnets in the center, and two electromagnetic coils suspended close overhead at the ends. This entire rotor and axle can sit safely inside a clear plexi-glass enclosure, sealed for air evacuation. The oscillating power coils can run from outside the protective safety housing along with the levitator coils, magnetically positioned by biasing magnets".
John.K1
QuoteHi Guest, the link for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drD416THU7Y - you can see there printing of magnets and also hovering magnets.
On that specific video, it's possible that in the device he's holding, the long-magnets on one of the 2 clear-plastic parts, fit into the holes in the other clear-plastic-part, which would mean that it relies on some physical contact. The 'mendocino-motor' bearing actually only relies on one single point of contact.
But I cannot be sure about the video you posted, because it does not show a proper side view.
In the past, and just now, I have searched for any inventions by the company in the video you posted, and I was not able to find anything achieving 'Full-Levitation'.
( By 'full-levitation', visualize an object completely levitating above a platform, without the object touching any other object at all )
However, in the video he mentions that the government is very interested in his company's technology, and as a result they required the company to sign non-disclosure-agreements, so it's possible that they are not able to disclose more advanced functioning-devices.
In the past, and just now, I have searched that company's website for anything achieving 'full-levitation', but I didn't find anything.
I just did some more web-searching for 'full-levitation' by that company, but instead, I found a patent, which does not appear connected to that company, but which may have achieved full-levitation.
One of the diagrams in the following patent, seems to show 'full-levitation'
https://www.google.com/patents/US5495221
And the patent above, cites a list of other patents, which may also have achieved 'full-levitation', but I don't know about the other patents.
I will re-post magnet-motor-3.5 , below
Here is another modification of the very first magnet-motor I posted on this website.
I'll call it MAGNET-MOTOR-10-10 , and use it to test how fast it appears on the top 3 Internet-Search-Engines .
I'll just use this site to also post my paper-airplane design( which I designed a long time ago ).
( Recently those '2 flat-rings connected to each other', have become more popular than paper-airplanes, and now I realize that my paper-airplane design is a hollow-flying-PARTIAL-cylinder )
I doubt I'm the first to have designed this paper-airplane, but when I designed it, I had not seen other paper-airplanes EXACTLY like it.
It has very very, surprising flight characteristics, firstly in terms of stability in flight, and secondly for flight-distance.
- It does need a lot of adjustment to get it performing correctly.
In the photos below you will notice :
- that the wings are actually curved upwards, like an incomplete-cylinder,
- and, the outer wing-tips, are stabilizers which are pointing-upwards instead of downwards( in order to not interfere with flight stability ).
- It does have 'ailerons' , but these are normally folded into neutral-position, and hardly ever used.
They only come in handy if you put a very-slight weight in the nose to increase range even further.
( It does remind me of the designs for re-usable-space-re-entry-vehicles which pre-dated the re-usable-spacecraft which were actually built, these earlier designs were never built( although I think there were one or two little known small-size-craft which were built and did fly in space )
The stability of this paper-airplane-design is very-very surprising
( and of course today its easy to see that it's because it's an incomplete-cylinder )
Because of the stability, the range is also very impressive.
It is a very very fickle design, it will only function if you get it just right, and if you know what your'e doing.
Below, are the photos
Something I've been wondering about, that since making electrical-sparks in a sufficiently-high-vacuum causes x-rays to be emitted, then why doesn't( or does it ) this occur inside solid electrical-conductor materials, since in between the sub-atomic particles( and between atoms ) there is just empty space .
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AN INCREDIBLE NEW 'COMPLETELY'/'FULLY'-LEVITATING TOY-TRAIN IDEA, WITHOUT USING ANY ELECTROMAGNETS
- I have been waiting for someone to post the following idea, WHICH I THOUGHT UP IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS, I may have invented it, but I didn't bother posting it.
The idea is simply that the train-track is simply one single long permanent-magnet, and the train-vehicle contains a magnet to repel it up and away from the train-track, and the train-vehicle also contains a simple-spinning-gyroscope to keep the train-vehicle from falling away( or off ) from the train-track, in the same way that very old monorail-experiments-using-gyroscopes used to function, however, I think that this would also need 2 additional magnetic-side-rails( possibly placed slightly up higher than the original center-rail ) to act as side-barriers for the magnet in the train-vehicle, to prevent it from falling of the train-track.
Quote from: guest1289 on May 02, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
AN INCREDIBLE NEW 'COMPLETELY'/'FULLY'-LEVITATING TOY-TRAIN IDEA, WITHOUT USING ANY ELECTROMAGNETS
- I have been waiting for someone to post the following idea, WHICH I THOUGHT UP IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS, I may have invented it, but I didn't bother posting it.
The idea is simply that the train-track is simply one single long permanent-magnet, and the train-vehicle contains a magnet to repel it up and away from the train-track, and the train-vehicle also contains a simple-spinning-gyroscope to keep the train-vehicle from falling away( or off ) from the train-track, in the same way that very old monorail-experiments-using-gyroscopes used to function, however, I think that this would also need 2 additional magnetic-side-rails( possibly placed slightly up higher than the original center-rail ) to act as side-barriers for the magnet in the train-vehicle, to prevent it from falling of the train-track.
UPDATE : Instead of :
Quote2 additional magnetic-side-rails( possibly placed slightly up higher than the original center-rail ) to act as side-barriers for the magnet in the train-vehicle, to prevent it from falling of the train-track
The train-vehicle could contain SIDE-MAGNETS( either repelling, or attracting ) to keep the train-vehicle from falling of the train-track.
THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING SIDE-MAGNETS ON THE TRAIN WOULD BE THAT THE TRAIN-TRACK COULD REMAIN AS 'A SINGLE RAIL', JUST LIKE A MONO-RAIL, EVEN THOUGH THE TRAIN IS COMPLETELY LEVITATING.
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My previous FULLY-LEVITATING-TOY-TRAIN designs just used permanent-magnets and no-electricity at all ( and no gyroscopes ), but I see no one has built( not publicly ) my previous designs.
So, I'm thinking that if you make a FULLY-LEVITATING-TOY-TRAIN that relies on a gyroscope to keep it from falling of the toy track, then more people may want to build it.
My paper-airplane photos on this thread on - 'Reply #26 on: April 22, 2016, 03:10:41 AM'
In the photos in that post, I folded the outer-wing-tips for maybe even greater stability, but now I doubt that's necessary at all, instead, the outer-wing-tips should not be folded, they should just remain as a part of the curved( or rolled ) shape of the wings, similar to a half-circle.
( In those photos, I may not have curved the wings enough, but it performed very well anyway )
This design is probably the best performing one that I have ever tried, especially when used it in a 'drop-only-test', that is, just by letting it go, from whatever height( not giving it any propulsion at all), in terms of distance, and stability.
( 'best performing one' that is made by only folding an A4 paper )
( I also tried it outdoors, which is usually difficult because of breezes, during some no breeze flights, I was very surprised at some of the distances it attained )
I would have thought a 'drop-only-test', that is, just by letting it go, from whatever height( not giving it any propulsion at all), would be the 'Definitive-Test' for Paper-Airplane design, as opposed to a 'throwing-test' , because, you could set a 'throwing-test' world record by tightly-scrunching-up( or tightly-folding, or compressing it using a machine ) an A4 paper into a tiny-ball, and throwing it, although I can see how adding a bit of glide capability to that paper-ball could increase the distance.
Re: My magnet-motor-3.5 ( which is the same as magnet-motor-10.5 )
If anyone tried building this, and couldn't get it working, then I'm thinking that the reason could be that if you space the stator( magnets, or metals) too close together, Or, the Moving-Magnets-Or-Metals too close together, then, either of those two separate components could be behaving as a single magnet or temporary-magnetized-metal.
- Another possibility, could be if the stator( magnets, or metals) 'and' the Moving-Magnets-Or-Metals are too close together and behaving as a single magnet.
( Basing this on the logic that you can make a single-magnet out of lots of smaller magnets, or effectively enough a single-magnet )
So, the simplest and easiest way too build it should be to build it as big as possible with as much spacing as possible, and just as a linear-motor, although you could curve it into a circle .