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Title: Worlds first Formic Acid powered car
Post by: markdansie on January 16, 2016, 09:29:30 AM
This has real potential as an alternative fuel


http://revolution-green.com/11972-2/


Kind Regards
Mark
Title: Re: Worlds first Formic Acid powered car
Post by: Nink on January 16, 2016, 11:11:59 AM
I like it.

Does anyone know the  process to convert hydrogen and CO2 to formic Acid?
Also what is the cost of energy to do the conversion?
Could conversion from formic acid to hydrogen be done real time while driving so you don't have a store of hydrogen gas only making enough as you use it?
Would you have to capture the CO2 and then transfer it back as you fill up with formic acid?
Would you need a vacuum pump at the gas station to collect the CO2 that gas?
If need pumps what would the cost of the new infrastructure required be?
Would you do the conversion back at the gas station as well?  Electricity + Water + CO2 collected from cars?

If someone could point to a document with process maybe we could do some kitchen chemistry and recreate. 

To go from Formic Acid to Hydrogen appears to be fairly simple using a catalyst but not a lot of gas appears to be produced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It4iVCdkrKg

There are a few papers if I get a chance will download and read them. 
Title: Re: Worlds first Formic Acid powered car
Post by: markdansie on January 16, 2016, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: Nink on January 16, 2016, 11:11:59 AM
I like it.

Does anyone know the  process to convert hydrogen and CO2 to formic Acid?
Also what is the cost of energy to do the conversion?
Could conversion from formic acid to hydrogen be done real time while driving so you don't have a store of hydrogen gas only making enough as you use it?
Would you have to capture the CO2 and then transfer it back as you fill up with formic acid?
Would you need a vacuum pump at the gas station to collect the CO2 that gas?
If need pumps what would the cost of the new infrastructure required be?
Would you do the conversion back at the gas station as well?  Electricity + Water + CO2 collected from cars?

If someone could point to a document with process maybe we could do some kitchen chemistry and recreate. 

To go from Formic Acid to Hydrogen appears to be fairly simple using a catalyst but not a lot of gas appears to be produced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It4iVCdkrKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It4iVCdkrKg)

There are a few papers if I get a chance will download and read them.


I think this worth a clsoer look