I am interested in Tesla's, wireless energy transfer.
This video shows my project for 100 W wireless and single-wire power transmission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARCLD3qgjmI
With this device, I achieved wireless and single-wire power transmission:
- 60 W at a distance of 90 cm
- 100 W at a distance of 70 cm
This is a surprising result, considering the simplicity of the device.
My opinion, this is mainly capacitive energy transmission during the inductive energy transmission is negligible.
Image 2coilTransmisson.jpg - show the configuration with two coils and ground connection.
Coil T1 is Transmitter and coil T2 is receiver.
Image 3coilTransmisson.jpg – show the configuration with three coils without ground connection.
Very interesting but your experiment is just AM transmitter, so it is EM radiation and not Electrical field fluctuation that creates voltage disturbance along one wire or ground connection as Tesla said.
When you talk about ENERGY TRANSFER , then it always have to be SOME way, ground, one-wire, two wire etc.
but when you say WIRELESS it is like it says WIRE-LESS = no wires but everybody thinks it is through AIR but it is not !
It is through ground connection! Does it have to be? No it doesn't, you can use one wire connection instead ground.
But all we can see around are pics of TOPLOAD throwing some ARCS around, because we do not know what to do with it and we do not have one designed like Tesla described.
But PLEASE DO SOME SIMILAR RECEIVER LIKE TESLA - LONGITUDINAL RECEIVER, how to explain that, like "receiver in short circuit"
that picks up voltage differential, charges capacitor and discharge it to receiver.
When I used term "receiver in short circuit" it is one BIG story but I will quote Tesla from link : http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1891-05-20.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1891-05-20.htm)
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In operating devices on the above plan I have observed curious phenomena of impedance which are of interest. For instance if a thick copper bar be bent, as indicated in Fig. 32 / 128, and shunted by ordinary incandescent lamps, then, by passing the discharge between the knobs, the lamps may be brought to incandescence although they are short-circuited. When a large induction coil is employed it is easy to obtain nodes on the bar, which are rendered evident by the different degree of brilliancy of the lamps, as shown roughly in Fig. 32 / 128. The nodes are never clearly defined, but they are simply maxima and minima of potentials along the bar. This is probably due to the irregularity of the arc between the knobs. In general when the above-described plan of conversion from high to low tension is used, the behavior of the disruptive discharge may be closely studied. The nodes may also be investigated by means of an ordinary Cardew voltmeter which should be well insulated. Geissler tubes may also be lighted across the points of the bent bar; in this case, of course, it is better to employ smaller capacities. I have found it practicable to light up in this manner a lamp, and even a Geissler tube, shunted by a short, heavy block of metal, and this result seems at first very curious. In fact, the thicker the copper bar in Fig. 32 / 128; the better it is for the success of the experiments, as they appear more striking. When lamps with long slender filaments are used it will be often noted that the filaments are from time to time violently vibrated, the vibration being smallest at the nodal points. This vibration seems to be due to an electrostatic action between the filament and the glass of the bulb.[/size]
Ask yourself why don't we have one wire receivers, experiments that will repeat this what Tesla claims ?! Because Tesla had good transmitter, high voltage, high frequency (but stay low around 100 kHz not MHz !), that gives a lot of [V / m] volts per meter, that is required for RECEIVER. Tesla proved this ONE-WIRE and WIRELESS - THROUGH GROUND !!!
But today on youtube you will find just a lot of TCs that are just bunch of AM transmitters, just put transistor modulator add microphone or USB MP3 player and there you have your private AM radio station but not TeslaCoil !!!
For me today designs of TCs doesn't even look like Tesla made them ? Where is: spiral coil, larger and longer wires, requirement of secondary length to be one quarter of wave length, wider coils etc.
We are deviating from course ;)
For the end, just another link :http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm)
I will quote Tesla :
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By keeping steadily in mind that the transmission thru the earth is in every respect identical to that thru a straight wire, one will gain a clear understanding of the phenomena and will be able to judge correctly the merits of a new scheme.
Another quote :
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Granted, then, that an economic system of power transmission thru a single wire is practicable, the question arises how to collect the energy in the receivers. With this object attention is called to Fig. 5, in which a conductor is shown excited by an oscillator joined to it at one end. Evidently, as the periodic impulses pass thru the wire, differences of potential will be created along the same as well as at right angles to it in the surrounding medium and either of these may be usefully applied. Thus at a, a circuit comprising an inductance and capacity is resonantly excited in the transverse, and at b, in the longitudinal sense. At c, energy is collected in a circuit parallel to the conductor but not in contact with it, and again at d, in a circuit which is partly sunk into the conductor and may be, or not, electrically connected to the same. It is important to keep these typical dispositions in mind, for however the distant actions of the oscillator might be modified thru the immense extent of the globe the principles involved are the same.
Hello delboy,
Thanks to the extensive explanation with which generally agree.
I have a small correction. I do not use modulation. I use a very simple oscillator (double slayer exciter).
It is true. My transmitter radiates EM wave. The receiver is close to the transmitter.
This is the Near-field regions .
I think, this is an area important in understanding Tesla's wireless system and Magnifying Transmitter.
http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html
But this is third step and I'm only on the first.
My new video dealing with this topic - similarities with Tesla's wireless transmission of energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbqR8EpIP04
I'm almost completely sure that's a capacitive energy transfer.
It also means more voltage greater transfer of power at a greater distance.
Hi,
in this experiment, I was surprised how strong is electrical field around the Tesla coil.
It is also interesting how much power can be transferred using capacitive coupling without resonance.
This experiment somewhat reminiscent of Tesla's radiant energy collector.
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 2) - Capacitive Coupling Wireless Power Transmission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc6Cw4GomMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNB7v8mCQbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNB7v8mCQbc)
Hi everyone,
I just added some new details on my blog, especially as regards the reasons why variant 3CT(Three-Coil power Transfer) is so effective.
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 1) – 100W Wireless Transmission without Ground Connection – SpigelLab
Hi everyone,
I just added some new details on my blog, especially as regards the reasons why variant 3CT(Three-Coilpower Transfer) is so effective.
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/05/27/basic-teslas-experiments-part-1-100w-wireless-transmission-without-ground-connection/
Quote from: spg on June 01, 2016, 12:50:13 PM
Hi,
in this experiment, I was surprised how strong is electrical field around the Tesla coil.
It is also interesting how much power can be transferred using capacitive coupling without resonance.
This experiment somewhat reminiscent of Tesla's radiant energy collector.
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 2) - Capacitive Coupling Wireless Power Transmission:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc6Cw4GomMY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc6Cw4GomMY)
Your device, pictured, looks like it works similarly to this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-C30zrTQ258g/VVaQaE1sb4I/AAAAAAAAADI/NCT3bKcNajQ/s1600/Don-Smith-Device-2006.jpg
Seems to be the same type of functioning. BTW, any number of outlying receiving units can be placed around the core transmitting unit. The output power can be amazingly great compared to the input power.
--Lee
Hi, Lee
Thank you for the excellent suggestion.
Yes, I was surprised by the fact. A very interesting result.
I have made the following test:
First I took a single aluminum plate and single bulb. Power consumption was 40.3W.
Then I made a test with two aluminum plates and two bulbs.
With the same power consumption lamps are obviously stronger glow. But it depends on the distance between the plates.
When is too big or too small distance between the plates and coils, the result is not so good.
I think it's a very good start to build overunity devices.
However, several elements must be clarified:
If near the coil L1 is not another coil or aluminum plate, the device consumes significantly more power (over 150W). It is possible that most of the power is consumed by the radio wave radiation.
When the coil L1 closer to the coil L2 or aluminum plate, the power consumption of the device is significantly reduced.
Probably coming back a portion of power. It is also possible that due to the proximity of other coils or aluminum plate comes to disturbance of radio radiation and to thereby reduce power consumption.
I think that these effects had to be well studied, particularly as they may affect up to those previously described test.
Don Smith device is very interesting and in the example shown, apparently used capacitive coupling - a similarity with my device.
Thanks,
Spigel
Quote from: spg on June 20, 2016, 06:32:20 PM
Hi, Lee
Thank you for the excellent suggestion.
Yes, I was surprised by the fact. A very interesting result.
(snip...)
Hey Spigel,
Try this as an example of OU ideas as a large presentation from the 'Web...
https://www.google.com/search?q=gbluer+exciter&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS603US603&espv=2&biw=1247&bih=983&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6DGOVOynM8S5ogTMw4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=0.9
The gbluer exciter is something I favor very much as having potentially big gains in power output.
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on June 21, 2016, 09:21:15 PM
Hey Spigel,
Try this as an example of OU ideas as a large presentation from the 'Web...
https://www.google.com/search?q=gbluer+exciter&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS603US603&espv=2&biw=1247&bih=983&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6DGOVOynM8S5ogTMw4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=0.9 (https://www.google.com/search?q=gbluer+exciter&rlz=1C1ASUM_enUS603US603&espv=2&biw=1247&bih=983&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=6DGOVOynM8S5ogTMw4HYCw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=0.9)
The gbluer exciter is something I favor very much as having potentially big gains in power output.
--Lee
As an example of what I'm saying, if you 'click' on the 'Web address above, and in the 3rd row from the top, right in the middle of the row, you'll see a center PVC tube with 3 more such such tubes having enamel copper-colored magnet wire wrapped around them.
What I'm implying is that any number of such tubes can be placed in close proximity to each other, and thusly, generate as much power as you want. Mere experimentation on your part should give you the particular parameters of your system, as you have it set up.
--Lee
As far as I've seen, each added coil, or bulb increases the load, as well as the consuption, or at least it will spread the same amount of the Exciter's output throughout the varying loads. In any case, the Slayer Exciter is not a self runner, nor free energy. Nor has any other device that runs on just a simple Kacher/Exciter circuit been known to self run.
Except for this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU
We are looking for free energy, not just economical energy that needs a man made input source.
Still, an Exciter circuit running off of a small and cheap solar panel/battery set up can provide some use-able light. Almost for free.
@NickZ
QuoteWe are looking for free energy, not just economical energy that needs a man made input source.
I think it's important to clarify this point, all energy is inherently free and there is no such thing as a man made source. Most all the energy we know comes from a nearby star we call the Sun and we did not make the Sun. Wind, Solar, Hydro, fossil fuels, EM energy, life etc...are simply different manifestations of energy from the Sun and we didn't make or create any of this energy either.
Think about that, all energy is inherently free and man has never created nor destroyed or consumed any energy we have only transformed energy which was already present. Thus it should be obvious we are swimming in a sea of free energy and it is simply a matter of transforming it into a form which is economical and useful.
For instance if the new generation solar cells and super capacitors were 95% efficient and the generation/storage price point was only $0.05/watt then no "free energy device" could compete even if it did work. So if we had a $10,000 free energy device which generates 10 Kw 24/7 it doesn't matter because solar would still be much cheaper at $0.05/watt and do the same job because the energy could be stored. In effect a supposed free energy device is no different than a full spectrum solar panel which would work 24/7 extracting EM energy and one could not tell them apart because in fact they are the same thing.
So what is free energy?, what is a free energy device?... it's simply a better more economical way of doing things versus the absurdity we see today. There is no magic only understanding and application.
AC
Nick think of a solar cell like this, when light (photons) hit a free electron they get all excited and the P-N junction layer in a solar cell is like an electron filter. It's just like a big flat diode which holds the excited electrons which jumped the P-N junction on the negative side(-) which leaves a lack of electrons on the positive side(+). So really a solar cell is just a glorified electron pump which is very easy to understand. Now imagine that the "Energy" which excited the free electrons which caused them to jump across the P-N junction (a diode) creating a potential difference or voltage did not only come from light/photons. You see it does not matter how or why the free electrons got excited and jumped the P-N junction... only that they do.
That is the fundamental premise of your mysterious and quite magical free energy device, excite some free electrons from any external energy source and hold the negative and positive charges apart with a diode and store them in a capacitor or battery if you like. The problem here is not science or technology but the psychology of denial and somehow people have got it in their head that all that inherently free energy all around us in all it's various forms does not exist. Obviously they must be a little woo woo because even a blind man knows better. It's like floating in the middle of the ocean and saying we don't buy into that water BS, can't believe it, makes no sense and anyone who believes in water must be a little crazy. Woo woo indeed.
AC
We may be surrounded by ambient energy. But, hydro, solar, wind, and other current "free energy" sources, are anything but free.
A solar system to be able to turn on my electric hot water heater (5000w) on, to take a hot shower would cost thousands of dollars.
My current grid costs per month is $25. As a comparison. I would be dead, before a solar system would be paid off.
You're also forgetting that batteries will need replacing in a few years, and are going up in price, not down. And the price of the controllers, wiring, is also going up, not to mentioned installation cost. The solar panels themselves are still at best about a buck a watt, or higher. Not anything like the price you stated, by a long shot. Therefore, solar is still a big rip off, and has not really become economical, for most people today. And some of us, like myself, don't have enough sun light, wind, or a constant water source to draw on, for hydro, wind turbins, etz...
Building a self running device, oneself can be very cheap, sometimes even free.
I figure the cost of this one, below, Is less than $100 to DIY. 4000w output. Of course, IF it's true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU
@NickZ
QuoteWe may be surrounded by ambient energy. But, hydro, solar, wind, and other current "free energy" sources, are anything but free.
A solar system to be able to turn on my electric hot water heater (5000w) on, to take a hot shower would cost thousands of dollars.
My current grid costs per month is $25. As a comparison. I would be dead, before a solar system would be paid off.
Appearances are generally always deceiving, for instance your electric hot water heater is actually a solar water heater. The energy which created the fossil fuels which were burned in a boiler to generate steam and turn the turbine to generate power which was transformed and then finally dissipated in the resistance of your water heater was solar energy. To make matters worse the combined total efficiency considering every element in the system for your "electric" water heater is probably less than 5%. It would have been magnitudes more efficient and cheaper in the long term to just heat the water with Sunlight and store it in a tank. What you have with an electric water heater is in fact the worst case scenario possible in terms of efficiency.
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You're also forgetting that batteries will need replacing in a few years, and are going up in price, not down. And the price of the controllers, wiring, is also going up, not to mentioned installation cost. The solar panels themselves are still at best about a buck a watt, or higher. Not anything like the price you stated, by a long shot. Therefore, solar is still a big rip off, and has not really become economical, for most people today. And some of us, like myself, don't have enough sun light, wind, or a constant water source to draw on, for hydro, wind turbins, etz...
The Edison cell or Nickel/Iron battery which can be homemade can last 100 years or more and the price of controllers is not going up it is going down. Bulk solar panels are at $0.50/watt and transformer-less grid tie inverters $0.30/watt and all falling in price.
My point is everything you have ever known, most all the energy we will ever know relates to solar energy ie. relating to or finding it's roots in the Sun. In fact it is not really a Sun but a star not unlike any other star you see in the night sky. Which means it is not all Solar Energy but more so Cosmic Energy ie. relating to energy from every star which exists in the Cosmos or the Universe. Wind, Hydro, Solar, fossil fuels, wood, biofuels etc. are simply different manifestations of solar energy. You see we have to get past all the ambiguous terminology and false beliefs to see things as they are not simply what we have been told.
Imagine that... every morning we wake up to see a star, a huge freaking star in all it's glory cross the sky before our eyes and yet somehow it has become routine, mundane, insignificant. That if nothing else should give us an indication of the delusion we suffer when such wondrous things fail to have meaning.
QuoteBuilding a self running device, oneself can be very cheap, sometimes even free.
I figure the cost of this one, below, Is less than $100 to DIY. 4000w output. Of course, IF it's true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU
The question just begging to be answered and in fact the only relevant one is, where do you think the energy from this device comes from?. Where could it come from?, well we already know the answer to this question and it must be Solar/Cosmic energy as that is the only energy present. So when you say Solar energy doesn't work and I want a free energy device like this one which is simply a different manifestation of Solar energy through field interactions it seems confusing.
Kapanadze, Ruslan, Akula and others may have working devices through years of hands on experiments. However all pale in comparison to Tesla because he was seeking the origin of the Energy in question, all Energy, and I believe he found it.
AC
Where does the energy come from??? Seams to be on peoples minds.
Watch this video.Бестопливный генератор - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJj7Toyp0Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
The small and simple self runner in the video above should help to resolve the question, and be able tell us just where the energy is coming from. And it should be easy to replicate at less that $10. If true.
My thoughts, which I aim to prove to myself are that any extra energy or OU should be coming from the surrounding ambient, the Aether. Cosmic energy, not sunlight. It is present everywhere, even in the darkness of deep space, where there's no sunlight.
The video is a small example, that may help open the door to our understanding, exploration, and verification of the theme.
Good luck with your solar systems.
I'll continue with the self runner ideas, replication, and improvements. In my own way...
@NickZ
QuoteMy thoughts, which I aim to prove to myself are that any extra energy or OU should be coming from the surrounding ambient, the Aether. Cosmic energy, not sunlight. It is present everywhere, even in the darkness of deep space, where there's no sunlight.
There in lies the problem, space is deep and dark and there appears to be nothing there. Yet you can see the Sun, a star, and you can see all the other stars as well. If you can see the light from stars a billion miles away then I would guess the light traveled from that star and every deep dark space in between until it reached your eyes... yet you could not see any light out there. Why do you think that is?, if you can see all those stars then shouldn't the darkness of space actually be full of light in translation from those stars to your eyes or do you think it just disappeared somewhere in between?.
In reality all space is full of sunlight or starlight depending on how we look at it however we have never actually seen sunlight. We can only see the reflection of sunlight after it has struck matter or tangible things of sufficient size or if it strikes our eyes directly. Sunlight is a small part of the spectrum of energy which fills all space, we call it the ElectroMagnetic spectrum.
We cannot have it both ways, either we believe energy must occupy every space from point A to point B to arrive at B or we must believe it has magically disappeared some place in between. I will let you decide which sounds more reasonable.
AC
The error that we are still being taught in school is, that light travels from the Sun to the Earth. No such thing.
There is NO LIGHT in deep space, and it's really really cold out there, also. There is neither heat nor light coming to us from the Sun, or any other stars. Yet, the material and non material worlds are always being surrounded by the energy called Aether.
NASA knows this, but is keeping it a secret for as long as possible. The question is why. The reason is because if we thought that we can produce our own light and power, the gig would be over for the oil and power companies. Which still control this planet, it's governments, and it's people.
I'll repeat it again: There is no light nor heat in deep space, nor is it "traveling" to get here. Light and heat are being produced right here on Earth, and any other light bearing planet, Sun, or nebula. We are being talk error for fact and continue to be lied to, for a reason.
You can believe it or not, but remember that NASA is only a false front, for what is really going on in space.
Solar panels don't even work in deep space, either. Nuclear fuel is what drive the satelites to other planets in our solar system, like to Saturn, or Pluto, and beyond.
Soon you'll see that what I'm talking about, is correct. No need to argue with me, as I've heard it all before.
I'm only suggesting that you look into, and don't simply buy their lies.
@NickZ
QuoteThe lie that we are still being taught in school is, that light travels from the Sun to the Earth. No such thing.
There is NO LIGHT in deep space, and it's really really cold out there, also. There is neither heat nor light coming to us from the Sun, or any other stars.
NASA knows this, but is keeping it a secret for as long as possible. The question is why. The reason is because if we thought that we can produce our own light, the gig is over for the oil and power companies.
I'll repeat it again: There is no light nor heat in deep space, nor is it "traveling" to get here. Light and heat are being produced right here on Earth, and any other light bearing planet, Sun, or nebula. We are being talk error for fact and continue to be lied to, for a reason.
There is another theory, have you ever pointed a bright flashlight upward on a calm clear night?. I have thousands of times and I observed that the beam is very visible in dusty or smoky conditions but invisible when the air is perfectly clear. It would seem to me we can only see light when it is reflected or scattered off of dust and other material things in our direction. In every other case when light is travelling away or at an angle to us we simply cannot see it...fascinating stuff don't you think?.
Now when we consider that outer space is a vacuum very much devoid of matter things start to make more sense. You see we cannot see the light in translation because there is nothing to reflect off of in space and the majority of all light is always at an angle to us never directly towards us. Space is dark then we throw up a satellite and wala the satellite is illuminated because it is reflecting the light which was always present which we could not see, a beacon in the dark.
As well space is really cold because there are no material things out there in the vacuum of space to absorb the energy from all that light. However it is a well known fact that the illuminated side does get very hot while the non-illuminated side stays very cold. You are cold in the shadow of your house then you go around the corner into the sunlight and wala you now start getting hot.
I find the fact you and most other adults think there is no light in space very strange simply because the answer seems obvious and is so easy to understand. In fact I have found a majority of adults understand almost nothing about the natural world and how it works. I ask 100 intelligent, reasonable and responsible adults even the most basic questions about nature and natural phenomena all around them and 99% fail miserably... why do you think that is?. I think they lack curiosity and are so preoccupied with their own little world they have created for themselves that they have failed to see everything else happening all around them.
AC
As I mentioned, what we are being told are lies, on purpose. As well as what is being taught in our schools concerning space.
Light production is not due to the presence of dust. It's due to the photosphere of the planet on the side facing the sun. A space craft flying towards the sun at midday would be in complete darkness in no time at all.
Most everything that NASA has told us are lies.
If you shown a strong laser light from a craft in deep space, (dust-free space), What would happen. No light? Light, what?
Hi, Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on July 04, 2016, 01:23:05 PM
As an example of what I'm saying, if you 'click' on the 'Web address above, and in the 3rd row from the top, right in the middle of the row, you'll see a center PVC tube with 3 more such such tubes having enamel copper-colored magnet wire wrapped around them.
What I'm implying is that any number of such tubes can be placed in close proximity to each other, and thusly, generate as much power as you want. Mere experimentation on your part should give you the particular parameters of your system, as you have it set up.
I tried such experiments, but can not say that I got overunity.
If only two coils near (transmitter and receiving), the device behaves quite complicated. If you are changing the distance between the coils voltages on the receiver behave nonlinear (caused by a standing wave). With more coil around, each coil affects the other. The behavior is very complex and it is difficult to set the best parameters.
Obviously, with a good adjustment can achieve interesting results which shows the experiment with three coils of Dr. Stiffler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIIhgHTEoM0.
My current interest is freely oscillating system - coil L3 on the scheme.
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/05/27/basic-teslas-experiments-part-1-100w-wireless-transmission-without-ground-connection/
L1 and L2 mutually interfere with the electric and magnetic fields and thus disturb each other. L3 is excited with an electric wave and freely vibrates.
In some cases, I feel like that at L3 produces more energy than it receives from L2. I am currently working device in order to be able to prove.
Spigel
But, if L3 receives more energy than was provided to L1. How can you tell? It looks like L3 in not lighting the 100w bulb to anywhere close to the same lumin levels as a normal 100w bulb connected to the grid. What is the input voltage/wattage?
I always found lousy conduction through the air from a normal Tesla coil, to anything further than a few feet away.
Not very efficient as far as use able light is concerned, either.
I also don't see the connection between these table top types of Tesla coils trying to light a nearby bulb, as compared to what Tesla was trying to do. As a light bulb lit by wireless only a few feet away from its source, is not the same as powering the world by wireless, through the earth's ground conduction.
Here is my latest video. On lighting a 100w bulb, through just a Kacher circuit. It was what I can do, so far.
But, the Kacher's output is not meant for that. It's meant to provide the 2000+ voltage impulse to the induction circuit for heterodyning both circuits towards producing a self runner. I'm not there yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpS7noQZ7DQ
Quote from: NickZ on July 07, 2016, 09:59:01 AM
The error that we are still being taught in school is, that light travels from the Sun to the Earth. No such thing.
There is NO LIGHT in deep space, and it's really really cold out there, also. There is neither heat nor light coming to us from the Sun, or any other stars. Yet, the material and non material worlds are always being surrounded by the energy called Aether.
NASA knows this, but is keeping it a secret for as long as possible. The question is why. The reason is because if we thought that we can produce our own light and power, the gig would be over for the oil and power companies. Which still control this planet, it's governments, and it's people.
I'll repeat it again: There is no light nor heat in deep space, nor is it "traveling" to get here. Light and heat are being produced right here on Earth, and any other light bearing planet, Sun, or nebula. We are being talk error for fact and continue to be lied to, for a reason.
You can believe it or not, but remember that NASA is only a false front, for what is really going on in space.
Solar panels don't even work in deep space, either. Nuclear fuel is what drive the satelites to other planets in our solar system, like to Saturn, or Pluto, and beyond.
Soon you'll see that what I'm talking about, is correct. No need to argue with me, as I've heard it all before.
I'm only suggesting that you look into, and don't simply buy their lies.
@allCanadian:
So, you think that there is light in space. But, not in deep space, as is being shown below in dark black shading.
http://www.businessinsider.com/where-does-space-begin-2016-7
Nor is there any light nor heat coming from the Sun to Earth, as they would like you to believe.
@NickZ
QuoteSo, you think that there is light in space. But, not in deep space, as is being shown below in dark black shading.
So your saying that because a cheesy internet diagram shows deep space is black this means you believe there is no light in deep space in reality?. You know I once saw a picture of a shark swallowing an oil tanker on the internet but I'm not sure I believe it... it was a really big oil tanker.
QuoteNor is there any light nor heat coming from the Sun to Earth, as they would like you to believe.
I believe you just used a double nor which is a neither/neither naughty and the booleans take great offence to this. As well I do not believe them whoever they are any more than I believe you and rationalize things for myself because I can. The question is...if no light or heat came to the Earth from the Sun then how exactly do you think it got here and from where?.
AC
It didn't. But, I wont' bore you with the details. I can see that I'm wasting my breath, on you.
Believe what you will...
@NickZ
QuoteIt didn't. But, I wont' bore you with the details. I can see that I'm wasting my breath, on you.
Believe what you will...
Why would you think you would bore me with details?, the devil is always in the details Nick. I'm pretty easy to understand, I'm willing to hear what anyone has to say but that does not mean I'm willing to believe anything anyone has to say unless they have a credible argument to back it up. This is not for their benefit but mine so I can keep an open mind and learn new things. So if you have a believable argument to my question I would like to hear it.
AC
Hi, NickZ
Quote from: NickZ on July 07, 2016, 07:47:09 PM
But, if L3 receives more energy than was provided to L1. How can you tell? It looks like L3 in not lighting the 100w bulb to anywhere close to the same lumin levels as a normal 100w bulb connected to the grid. What is the input voltage/wattage?
I always found lousy conduction through the air from a normal Tesla coil, to anything further than a few feet away.
Not very efficient as far as use able light is concerned, either.
I also don't see the connection between these table top types of Tesla coils trying to light a nearby bulb, as compared to what Tesla was trying to do. As a light bulb lit by wireless only a few feet away from its source, is not the same as powering the world by wireless, through the earth's ground conduction.
Here is my latest video. On lighting a 100w bulb, through just a Kacher circuit. It was what I can do, so far.
But, the Kacher's output is not meant for that. It's meant to provide the 2000+ voltage impulse to the induction circuit for heterodyning both circuits towards producing a self runner. I'm not there yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpS7noQZ7DQ
I've looked at your videos and I'm impressed with the device and your research in this area.
My research direction is to start from the basic elements with the aim of understanding of the principles of work elements and their mutual interaction. At the same time I try to examine the validity of some established interpretations.
The presented scheme (3CT) talk about my experience regarding these experiments and on my intuition and the direction in which I want to continue to explore.
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/05/27/basic-teslas-experiments-part-1-100w-wireless-transmission-without-ground-connection/
Based on experience with these experiments find that there is a possibility that a portion of the energy coming from the outside. This can happen under the right conditions that have to establish exactly.
I'm currently working on a new device with which to prove it.
Tesla did not immediately began to build a system for wireless transmission of energy, but for many years explored near field effects. This knowledge enabled him to further research for the world's energy transmission, as well as some new areas - to the evident from his statements.
Some of Tesla's patents for wireless transmission of energy are known. However it is not known know-how and experience that is necessary to adjust such devices to give desired results. I think that's the most important Tesla's secret.
I agree with you - if someone makes a self running device then the whole story about the wireless transmission is not required.
Regarding the measurement of power - just now finishing a video:
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 4) - Measuring Power Consumption (300W motor and Wireless Power)
You can check it out at:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCop2ybGsiTYo1iyttgjNo8g
Thanks,
Spigel
SPG:
Thanks for your comments. I hope that you have some success in what you are trying to do.
I see no free energy in wireless, or single wire replications, as yet. Nor are they even comparable to the output of a wired connection. All I've seen are guys lighting up a bulb a couple feet away. And talking about Tesla... but not showing what Tesla had in mind. Nor have I ever seen anything other than that, to prove the point. I'm still waiting...
allcanadian: I've already explain to you what I see. No light, and no heat coming from the Sun to the Earth.
Sunlight is produced on planets with an atmosphere, only, like the Earth. Nothing to do with dust, but with photospheres, instead.
And, there is no "traveling" of light, such as the "speed" of light. Light does not travel in space from point A to point B. Nor from a Sun to it's planets. Although there is nothing traveling, but light "polarizes" at the speed science has called the speed of light", instead, with out any movement of anything, like electrons, photon, or anything else. Yet, what lights this planet is the produced Earthlight, on the side facing the Sun.
What is your proof to the contrary... like prove that there is any light or any heat outside of this planet's master vortex, which extends to just past the moons orbit. And that both light and heat are coming to Earth from the Sun, and lighting it and keeping it warm, as is being claimed. NASA knows now, that is not the case.
All false errors, still being taught as fact. On purpose.
@NickZ
QuoteAlthough there is nothing traveling, but light "polarizes" at the speed science has called the speed of light", instead, with out any movement of anything, like electrons, photon, or anything else
Here is an interesting video--http://www.wimp.com/the-camera-that-can-capture-light-at-one-trillion-frames-per-second/
The boys at MIT built a camera that captures 1 Trillion frames per second which amounts to 20 seconds of video per nanosecond. You can literally see light travelling in super slow motion... pretty cool stuff.
The fact remains, if change at point A (the Sun) appears at point B (the Earth) then any credible theory must explain how the change occurred at point B (the Earth). You say light polarizes with out any movement of anything, nothing travelling, if nothing moved then how could anything be polarized?. It would seem you have already proven something does move when you used the term "polarized" which is an action. Something was polarized which polarized something else this change moving sequentially through a space over a distance.
Which leaves us with a question, if light is a polarization of something and not something tangible physically moving something is still moving through the space which is Energy. We already know this because light is defined as an Electromagnetic wave covering a narrow region of the EM spectrum. So yes light does travel because the EM energy which polarized the space through which it traveled also polarized the matter it struck when it ceased travelling. What many find very confusing is the concept of Energy however it is actually quite easy to understand.
Think of it this way, the Sun jiggles a bunch of particles on the Sun at a frequency of X, this jiggling creates Electro-Magnetic waves at frequency X which travel through space to Earth causing matter to also jiggle at frequency X. The jiggling is Energy and when things jiggle at a frequency of X we see this as light. The jiggling at frequency X is light and it is not so much something as a condition of something which is of course matter.
AC
I am not mathematically inclined to explain it further. But, light diminishes at a square root of the distance from it's source.
Therefore, the Sun's light would never ever, reach us, as the distance is way to great. Heat radiated from the Sun is also not able to reach nor heat this planet. Therefore our Sun, is not the cause of lighting nor heating the Earth. But, without a light source, like the Sun, the light polarization effect would not happen on the Earth side facing that source. Dark side of the Earth is similar to the rest of space, cold and dark, unlike our molten Earth core. Which Earth's master Vortex is maintaining that way.
Main thing to remember is, that once leaving this planet's atmosphere, there is no light and no heat in space. Even if going straight for the Sun. Verify it for yourself.
The fact that you see lightning start from the clouds and then "travel" to the ground, does not mean that there is anything actually traveling from one point to the other. The polarization of light is not the same thing, as light "traveling". Light is not a particle, nor does it move, it polarizes towards a light source. Without anything moving or traveling.
I'm not suggesting that you take my word for it, I'm suggesting that you really check into it. But, no by reading the same old books and information that is still taught today, which is meant to device us. And then repeating back it like a parrot.
@NickZ
You know it took me a day to place the name as I first thought Schappeller but he's not this, then possibly Schauberger but then very few people if any really understand Schauberger because of the terminology. However I believe what you read was Walter Russell who has an absurd amount of quite obscure work published... good work. It is Russell your trying to parrot isn't it?.
AC
allcanadian:
Although I'm familiar with what Walter Russell has written, as well as Viktor Schauberger, and many others also. As I've spent the last 50 years studying about all this. But, NO my information does not come from them, even though both are well versed in the Vortex theory.
I will not disclose my sources. Just to see you try to bury their information, as well.
Understand the message, that's what counts. You can believe it or not, that up to you.
But, the "proof is in the pudding".
@NickZ
QuoteAlthough I'm familiar with what Walter Russell has written, as well as Viktor Schauberger, and many others also. As I've spent the last 50 years studying about all this. But, NO my information does not come from them, even though both are well versed in the Vortex theory. [/size]I will not disclose my sources. Just to see you try to bury their information, as well.
I will have to think about that and it is an interesting concept. I think it does fall within the realm of mainstream science however from a different perspective on a deeper level. In the big picture we are left with the notion that Energy essentially transmits a condition to matter telling it how it should act thus interact with other things. In which case Energy is not unlike a signal which carries information and not simply tiny pieces of rock called particles smashing into one another as some would have us believe. How this information is carried from one place to another seems less important than deciphering it and replacing it with our own message. Water, Water everywhere and nothing to drink is where were at now but this will not always be the case, as we know.
AC
Hello everyone,
And now a little for those who want experimenting and thus acquire new knowledge, I made a new video:
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 5) - Impedance matching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7J04Tr80A
This video shows the influence of impedance on the absorption power of load.
For me, this is interesting theme because it is easily possible to make a mistake in estimating the power on the receiving device.
I am sure this video will be useful for many experimenters.
Thanks,
spg
It is strange that the same people who tell us we cannot get "something from nothing" are also telling us that "something is nothing" and nothing will come of immersing people in huge EM fields. It would seem to me they are either incompetent or stupid, I haven't determined which yet.
AC
Hello everyone,
I'm interested in how to interpret the effects in this video? It seems to me that some details require more explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7J04Tr80A
Thanks,
Spigel
Hello,
Here are some interesting new details about the Tesla coil and near field region. I have presented the polarization that occurs in the oscillating electric field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNEC2FHOjg8
Thanks,
Spiegel
Quote from: spg on August 04, 2016, 05:47:46 AM
Hello,
Here are some interesting new details about the Tesla coil and near field region. I have presented the polarization that occurs in the oscillating electric field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNEC2FHOjg8
I have changed some small details and made a new video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yFrQ41Za0
Thanks,
Spigel
My new video shows the standing wave at the Tesla coil and the impact of the connected capacity.
Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 7) - Standing Wave, Node, Reflection (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU)
Thanks,
Spigel
Hi Spigel,
Can you post the schematic of the tesla generator?
Gianfranco
Quote from: framoro on September 16, 2016, 02:50:23 AM
Hi Spigel,
Can you post the schematic of the tesla generator?
Gianfranco
Yes,
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/05/27/100w-wireless-and-single-wire-power-transmission-with-high-power-double-slayer-exciter/
Spigel
thank you
Quote from: NickZ on July 04, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
As far as I've seen, each added coil, or bulb increases the load, as well as the consuption, or at least it will spread the same amount of the Exciter's output throughout the varying loads. In any case, the Slayer Exciter is not a self runner, nor free energy. Nor has any other device that runs on just a simple Kacher/Exciter circuit been known to self run.
Okay, NickZ, strictly speaking, that's true. I have a personal friend who has a lot more freedom to experiment on electronics/free energy, than I do. She indicates that your assertion is correct. Load increases on the input side with each added output section going to a particular work/storage function.
However, if one or more toroidal transformers is placed between the power take-up means and the functional load, the power required for the load would drop, compared to what was realized originally. Moreover, using spark gap(s), especially in series, allows greater power than even that to be utilized. Up to unity or greater.
WHY? Gases in the atmosphere are ionized and the extra electrons are then available for use by the load, especially in a battery. The ions, thus created, can be attracted to the opposite pole of the spark gap and can be conducted oppositely to the opposite side of a battery. Where they recombine as atmospheric gases, again.
My friend tells me there's enough leftover power to made the whole scenario feasible. At or above unity, according to her.
Now, then, NickZ:
Do you agree with my presented theoretical scenario? Do you think this is feasible?
Anyone amongst the Members of Overunity.com can weigh in on this, if they like.
Except for this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU)
Do you speak Russian, NickZ? My Mom had very distant East European ancestors, and a few were Russian. However, I don't speak the language, and furthermore, there was no wiring schematic to accompany the video. It looked like a typical Kapanadze setup to me. Kapanadze generators generally comprise a spark gap inside the circuitry, as an overall rule. That could be the overriding 'overunity' factor, IMHO. That's what I've seen in Kapanadze schematics, anyway.
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We are looking for free energy, not just economical energy that needs a man made input source.
Using a spark gap, for the reasons I stated above, might be the best bet to achieve overunity, IMO.
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Still, an Exciter circuit running off of a small and cheap solar panel/battery set up can provide some use-able light. Almost for free.
Solar power is available for the mere cost of hardware. I might say that's almost free, yes.
--Lee
Hi the_big_m_in_ok, hi NickZ,
Regarding single-wire and wireless transfer of energy I gave explanations and appropriate schemes. Everyone is able to make a replica:
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/05/27/100w-wireless-and-single-wire-power-transmission-with-high-power-double-slayer-exciter/
http://www.spigellab.com/2016/05/27/basic-teslas-experiments-part-1-100w-wireless-transmission-without-ground-connection/
With that I hope will be achieved improvement of such devices and reduce the need for today's very expensive energy transfer.
I'm interested in whether there is a possibility that your theory in some way improve the performance of my device?
Thanks,
spg
Except for this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU)
You asked: "Do you speak Russian, NickZ? My Mom had very distant East European ancestors, and a few were Russian. However, I don't speak the language, and furthermore, there was no wiring schematic to accompany the video. It looked like a typical Kapanadze setup to me. Kapanadze generators generally comprise a spark gap inside the circuitry, as an overall rule. That could be the overriding 'overunity' factor, IMHO. That's what I've seen in Kapanadze schem"
end quote.
No. I don't speak Russian, but after watching as many Russian videos as I have, I'm starting to get a feel for where they're coming from, in their explanations, as well as their knowledge. As so, also applying their open minded ideas (such as open systems for self running devices) to our everyday life.
My father was from the old Yugoslavia, same as Tesla, and I picked up on some of their ways of thinking, also.
In the video above there is NO spark gap, at least that can be seen or shown in the schematics that have been posted.
And therefore, no ozone smell being released into the air, nor noise from a HV spark gap, etz...
And, it can still produce as much or more output than any other solid state (no moving parts), self runner shown to date.
The reason that I post and discuss that particular video, on this wireless/single wire transfer of energy thread, is to show that we may not really need to transfer electricity wirelessly, at all. As that type of device can be made and used in your house, and connected to the normal circuit breakers, (unplugged from the grid), and needing no higher man made type of input source to transfer the juice, wirelessly, to any remote location, nor on a single wire to a load needing a ground connection.
It doesn't even have a "ground connection". So... how's all that possible.
That's my question. And so, I'm working towards something similar in the Dally Thread.
Hopefully some day we'll be able to buy something like that, only further perfected, improved, and boxed up, even on Ebay, Amazon, or at the store next door. Free shipping from China $99. Just joking,,, or am I?
Quote from: NickZ on September 24, 2016, 01:28:47 PM
The reason that I post and discuss that particular video, on this wireless/single wire transfer of energy thread, is to show that we may not really need to transfer electricity wirelessly, at all. As that type of device can be made and used in your house, and connected to the normal circuit breakers, (unplugged from the grid), and needing no higher man made type of input source to transfer the juice, wirelessly, to any remote location, nor on a single wire to a load needing a ground connection.
I think also. However this is not a topic. I would like to improve the single wire and wireless transmission of energy.
You bring here a theory, and in the end you tell me it does not make sense?
Otherwise, I would be happy that the video that you show it, there are all the information in order to make a replica?
spg
SPG: Try to understand where I'm coming from.
How will you "improve" a very limited device? Will it be more efficient than using the grid source, better output, less expensive, portable, what? What you are seeing is what you'll get, that's it and that all. An inefficient way to light a bulb.
Partially lighting a 100w bulb a few feet away, by an exciter field, while studying the near field results. Ok, good, but, if you were to do the input to output measurements, you'll see how fairly inefficient wireless or single wire transmission really is.
Nor will it self run, and needs an input source, while providing less output (in lumin) levels than the input energy used to bring that about. It's not an open circuit obtaining energy from the ambient, and feeding it back to the input, either.
Tesla used millions of volts, provided for by generators as the input source to his coils and capacitors, to produce a unipolar plasma jet like stream, (not an oscillating AC, field), to do his wonders.
On the other hand the video that I posted a link to needs no input source, no millions of volts, no earth ground line, makes no noise, no ozone spewed in the air from a high voltage spark gap, no big expensive towers and no additional input from any man made sources. To provide for 4000w of output. Out of thin air? Yes, that's what it looks like it...
What are the advantages or benefits of wireless or single wire transfer?
There are some schematics, diagrams, and information on that video that I posted. If interested, but it really needs it's own thread for further discussions and testing. As always, not all information is provided, and so, it's not all complete.
What self running device has everything needed for a complete and successful replication? Possibly NONE.
That's why we are here on these forums, to figure it all out, and share results.
Please don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking what you're doing. I've done similar tests some years back. I'm just trying to understand what new and useful advantages you might be having or experimenting with currently,
As you already have some of the components and coils, of what is needed to replicate that device, I'm just pointing you to that system, that uses the same or similar simple Kacher/Exciter circuit to self run itself. The only such device shown to date.
I hope that makes sense, to you.
Hi NickZ,
Regarding my unit, for wireless and single-wire power transmission, you're right. This is not overunity or free energy device. But that's not my main goal.
I hope that with these experiments, I will get the knowledge that will help me to build such a free energy device of which you speak.
At the same time I want to show and share my cognition with everyone who is interested.
I'm particularly interested in anomalies - phenomena that are difficult to explain with classical physics, and perhaps are essential for the realization of free energy devices.
The device in the video that you showed me, used also as my device, Tesla coil.
Therefore, I consider the essential understanding of the following elements:
- Oscillating electric field about Tesla coils:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yFrQ41Za0
- A standing wave on the Tesla coil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU
- Impedance matching - (very important in the study of overunity devices):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ7J04Tr80A
My opinion is that we want to reach the same goal, but with the other starting points.
I would still suggest that if you really want to see free energy, and not just to light a bulb a few feet away from a Tesla coil, to study and follow what others have done concerning using a proper feed back path to the input. Such as the video that I posted, or similar. Otherwise, all you will get, is what you've got now.
I've seen your videos several times now, and there is no free energy there, nor anomalies. Only poor efficiency in wireless, or single wire transfer. You mentioned that that is not your only goal, and you'd like to see free energy, also. Well... then go in that direction, or don't, or course it's up to you.
I've tried to point you to the way of free energy, with the best advice I have. Instead of working with weak and practically useless wireless energy, that can transmit only a couple of feet away, and still needing a power source to do so. Your choice.
Very well done.
Folks,
single-wire transmission = wireless power transmission.
He was doing this through the ground. Isn't the table the same as the ground underneath our feet?
I am not sure what you are trying to say.
Quote from: NickZ on July 07, 2016, 07:47:09 PM
But, if L3 receives more energy than was provided to L1. How can you tell? It looks like L3 in not lighting the 100w bulb to anywhere close to the same lumin levels as a normal 100w bulb connected to the grid. What is the input voltage/wattage?
I always found lousy conduction through the air from a normal Tesla coil, to anything further than a few feet away.
Not very efficient as far as use able light is concerned, either.
I also don't see the connection between these table top types of Tesla coils trying to light a nearby bulb, as compared to what Tesla was trying to do. As a light bulb lit by wireless only a few feet away from its source, is not the same as powering the world by wireless, through the earth's ground conduction.
Here is my latest video. On lighting a 100w bulb, through just a Kacher circuit. It was what I can do, so far.
But, the Kacher's output is not meant for that. It's meant to provide the 2000+ voltage impulse to the induction circuit for heterodyning both circuits towards producing a self runner. I'm not there yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpS7noQZ7DQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpS7noQZ7DQ)
And I'm not sure what you are trying to say, either. That a table top is the same as the Earth ground???
I believe that I was pretty clear on what I was saying, then. That there is NO comparison between a table top device weakly transmitting power to a nearby bulb just a few feet away, compared to what Tesla was intending on doing.
A table top is not a ground source. And what you see is all you get, by using such limited power systems. Just look at where that idea has ended up, since those videos were posted some time ago. Nowhere.
However, after Tesla's New York based tower was torn down, he went on to develop individual free energy devices that could run cars, trains, planes, ships, as well as space crafts. Such as his 1935 electric car motor, running a car at up to 90mph using NO batteries. Instead of trying to provide free power through wireless transmission through the air and ground, to distant places on the planet.
In any case, I'm not here to argue about it, believe what you like.
Yes, that was my point. Just like the human body, the table top is similar to the ground undernearth our feet.
In this thread, we are dealing with WPT. We are not dealing with OU. While OU is great, many applications necessitate WPT which may or may not be linked to OU. We are not evolved enough to understand all this, but i believe this will soon be found out.
Quote from: NickZ on July 06, 2017, 01:46:37 PM
And I'm not sure what you are trying to say, either. That a table top is the same as the Earth ground???
I believe that I was pretty clear on what I was saying, then. That there is NO comparison between a table top device weakly transmitting power to a nearby bulb just a few feet away, compared to what Tesla was intending on doing.
A table top is not a ground source. And what you see is all you get, by using such limited power systems. Just look at where that idea has ended up, since those videos were posted some time ago. Nowhere.
However, after Tesla's New York based tower was torn down, he went on to develop individual free energy devices that could run cars, trains, planes, ships, as well as space crafts. Such as his 1935 electric car motor, running a car at up to 90mph using NO batteries. Instead of trying to provide free power through wireless transmission through the air and ground, to distant places on the planet.
In any case, I'm not here to argue about it, believe what you like.
There is no "we", here. This is a dead thread.
YOU think that a table is the same and works the same an earth ground. That was your point. Ok, fine. Whatever.
You are free to think and do as you please.
But, the point of this thread is not to lamely and inefficiently light a bulb a couple of feet away by wireless or by a single wire transfer using a table top as a ground. Read the whole thread. As it was started to try to understand and possibly replicate Tesla's ideas. Which have neither been fully understood to this day, nor have been replicated by a table top model. And is why this thread has been left abandoned as it currently stands.
Sorry, but that's it for me on this topic.
NickZ
Okay, take no offence. Even though there may be a bit of arguement, i think the end result can be positive if we try not to rule out any possiblity of real science behind.
I have never said the table top is 100% the same as the earth ground. Just like the human body, they are similar in terms of the surface effects and distributed capacitance. By your argument, however, the table top is like free-space having not conductivity at all. Here is an experiment to prove who is right: Suspend the tesla coils in mid-air using a nylon string or whatever to see what happen in terms of efficiency and safety.
Now going back to your another issue related to Tesla's WPT research in general. The research of WPT has completely lost favor for some decades simply because some idiots from the Hertzian crowd and the conspircy groups were too vocal. Because of their persistent noise, we have been brain-washed to believe that wireless power has to be transmitted through free-space. We have been brainwashed to believe that the deliverable power is inversely proportionaly to the square of distance. We have been brainwashed to believe that Marconi's research is mainly hertzian in nature. Because of their noise, the true WPT researchers are completely powerless. I hope this is not what you want.
Quote from: NickZ on July 06, 2017, 10:52:35 PM
There is no "we", here. This is a dead thread.
YOU think that a table is the same and works the same an earth ground. That was your point. Ok, fine. Whatever.
You are free to think and do as you please.
But, the point of this thread is not to lamely and inefficiently light a bulb a couple of feet away by wireless or by a single wire transfer using a table top as a ground. Read the whole thread. As it was started to try to understand and possibly replicate Tesla's ideas. Which have neither been fully understood to this day, nor have been replicated by a table top model. And is why this thread has been left abandoned as it currently stands.
Sorry, but that's it for me on this topic.
NickZ
You seam to want to argue, and that is not my intention. And thus, I will leave you to carry on in whatever way suits your purpose. I have other projects of interest.
However the only reason that a table can act as a ground is because it is sitting on the ground Once isolated from the ground it will not conduct any better than the air that surrounds it. Try it, and you, see for yourself.
Any way, I am not interested in wireless nor single wire projects, as I am into OU. Although that name is a misnomer. And it's actually the harvesting of the Aether from the surrounding ambient that interests me.
Like I mentioned, that's it for me.
Quote from: NickZ on July 04, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
Except for this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrvAvp_dmlU
The video is not available. Can you please repost the link.
Sorry, but Poma has since removed all self running videos, as well as his YouTube channel.
So, his system either worked, or it didn't. But now, we'll never know for sure.
The same thing has happened with several other people after showing these types of devices.
Either he had too many negative comments from the trolls, or he didn't want to risk the consequences of showing a working self runner.
However, there are other guys that have developed the same type of Kacher based KW output self running devices. Although they are not wireless, nor single wire systems, they are still very amazing devices, as well as being very simple, yet not totally disclosed.
Such as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbQf0DnXS_w
Maybe to answer is found in Utkin document ? A resonant LC circuit outputting radio waves , then capture this waves and mix with 50Hz from push-pull to obtain larger current ? So simple you could laugh ?
The video that I just posted works similar to the other video that has since been removed.
The Poma device (previous video) uses a HV kacher output to pulse the receiving coil and mix the HV with LV through a cap, which then goes to a PC adapter. This PC adapter steps down the higher two mixed voltages, and drops them to 19-24v, depending on the adapter used.
The stepped down 24v output from the adapter is then used to feed back the power to the Kachers input connection point, allowing for self running. A 12 battery is used to kick start the system, which once started the battery can then be disconnected.
Most likely the same type of device as Kapanadze has used in the earlier videos. And which is much easier and simpler than the Akula/Ruslan type of devices.
I have not seen any single wire nor wireless system that can do the same thing.