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.....at : https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-physics-behind-perpetual-motion-machines
     This site can be a starting point ,so to bring together some new arguments in a long dispute...
     Al_ex

The physics are imaginary.

Quote from: memoryman on April 29, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
The physics are imaginary.

Exactly, as are the machines themselves.  Since there is no such thing as a perpetual motion machine, I disagree with the premise of the question.

Bill

.....dispute , at : https://m.notey.com/blogs/perpetual-motion
    A so long quarrel means...a lot of ignorance.
    Al_ex