http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20499-ere-many-generations-pass.html#post289398
Tesla
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Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus [Antaeus], who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic—and this we know it is, for certain—then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.
Ernst has it working and has a Plan.
respectfully
Chet
Sounds silly even to me.
Who the Alice is Ernst anyway? Are there any known achievements? Or is there only this "I will explain everything...soon!" thing we've seen so often alreads?
Although, this other guy then suggests a rather smart release strategy, worth reading. Well if the release were the only problem...
Silly?
Sir,
To hold prejudice without investigation... is at the very least Rude...
Ernst is no keyboard jockey or Couch potato.
have a peruse [Which BTW was all available thru the above link in first post]
some of Ernst's work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzT4pG0Bnyo
more vids
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheMage00000/videos
Well, it sounds silly, didn't say it is silly. That's why I was asking, so thanks.
But the guy who responded was right: the release strategy of Ernst is suicidal.
Will now watch the vids...
Ok I see the man obviously put a lot of effort into his project and did his homework.
I do respect that very much.
Whether or not there is any >unity effect I cannot say, but nevertheless, very impressive work.
At some point he mentions his patent attorney, which seemed controversial. He should know a patent is the wrong way. Patents of strategical importance are confiscated by the govermafia.
Exciting news, will this be breakthrough we are all waiting for! The anticipation must be torture for you Chet. Ernst has done what no man has been able to do since Tesla. We are talking of thousands of experimenters.
Pomodoro
Over the years I have grown very Fond of Ernst ,I honestly had no idea how much work he had done ,
and now he wants to share , well he always wanted to share but was on a quest towards this discovery as many were.
IMO "That" is what will change the world more than anything .
A selfless act of giving... acts of giving can be hard to measure ,I can give you a piece of my Cheeseburger at lunch...
a nice gesture which really costs me nothing...
what Ernst gives is truly hard to measure , very hard for me to get my mind around that .
just one mans opinion !
but yes very exciting indeed.
Chet K
Quote from: ramset on June 14, 2016, 02:08:46 PM
Silly?
Sir,
To hold prejudice without investigation... is at the very least Rude...
Ernst is no keyboard jockey or Couch potato.
have a peruse [Which BTW was all available thru the above link in first post]
some of Ernst's work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzT4pG0Bnyo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzT4pG0Bnyo)
more vids
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheMage00000/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheMage00000/videos)
All that work and effort and his "Wardenclyffe" Tesla Coil, as shown in that first video, is apparently still not working in true VRSWR (voltage rise by standing wave resonance) mode. He's made a big transformer, that's all. Congratulations for that much at least.
Here's what the discharges from a Tesla Coil that is operating in VRSWR (true quarter-wave resonance) looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsChNrBn5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk
... and I'm only using 24 volts input, no pole pigs or huge structures involved, and am in the same output voltage regime as his huge setup.
Ernst's "Testing Dual MOT" video shows at least that he's getting some better performance from that system and seems to be showing true VRSWR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYpYfJe3mNA
...but I must say that overall, his builds seem pretty inefficient, and I think that's because he's not really designing his coils properly. His primaries are too loosely coupled and have too much self-inductance from all that wire, and his secondaries have too much height for their diameter, which results in a lower Q than a shorter fatter coil would have at the same resonant frequency. He also seems to be neglecting the top capacity, which results in higher frequency of operation and less overall energy storage in the system before discharge occurs.
But more power to him: At least he's experimenting, has a nice large space to work in (until he burns it down!) and has money to spend on his work, and he seems to be having fun.
(And you can keep your cheezburger, it's probably gone stale by now...)
Quote from: pomodoro on June 15, 2016, 06:02:55 AM
Exciting news, will this be breakthrough we are all waiting for! The anticipation must be torture for you Chet. Ernst has done what no man has been able to do since Tesla. We are talking of thousands of experimenters.
I don't know what makes you think that. Just search You Tube for "Tesla Coil Magnifying Transmitter" and you'll find many many videos of people who are getting much better performance and "effects" than I have seen from Ernst, by using actual principles discovered and taught by Tesla.
For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Q3FtXo65w
Tinsel
His work will speak for itself, No amount of pointing at Old Vids and critiquing will change that.
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I have to say, seeing that last Vid you posted made my hair stand up , hard to believe that is real, it seems to take on a life of its own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Q3FtXo65w
Chet K
PS
I ate the Cheeseburger ,
Stale ?
that's what Microwaves are for...
Rooky ::)
Quote from: TinselKoala on June 15, 2016, 07:11:38 AM
I don't know what makes you think that. Just search You Tube for "Tesla Coil Magnifying Transmitter" and you'll find many many videos of people who are getting much better performance and "effects" than I have seen from Ernst, by using actual principles discovered and taught by Tesla.
For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Q3FtXo65w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Q3FtXo65w)
Don't know either, but it was fun.
Hey you guys should toss away whats left of the cheeseburger, start with a fresh Whopper, it tastes better.
Quote from: ramset on June 15, 2016, 07:34:15 AM
snip.. hard to believe that is real, it seems to take on a life of its own. snip..
When a life of its own plays music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgll-XTqcS4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgll-XTqcS4)
Cheers
Toad
Gotta love the rising sun....
Thx
Chet K
@ Tinsel
yah gonna eat those fries ??
:o
And yes Pomodoro
the whopper is truly a worthy masterpiece !!
Sounds Really Promising.
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FatBird
reading the last few comments made me hungry, But honestly and seriously
it is very enticing indeed ,the language which Tesla used always seemed to leave us lacking for a better explanation,
a better understanding, if Ernst can indeed supply that missing Bit which connects the Dots .
?
Connecting our machines to the wheelwork of nature....
to be honest .. it absolutely Boggles my mind !!
respectfully
Chet K
Well, Ernst will be much admired if correct, but lose all credibility for ever if not. You can't walk away unscathed after making such bold statements. I just hope he has a working device that others can replicate and confirm and not a bunch of theory that nearly works but just needs a little work....
Yes, it would really be nice if he will DISCLOSE the details so we can build & verify.
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Ernst has added to his BlogSpot
here
http://mage00000.blogspot.com/p/ether.html.
Looks like Ernst has a bad case of hero-worship going on there. Sure, Tesla was a genius, and "invented the 20th century". But there is no rule that says "geniuses are always right about everything."
What many people miss about the Wardenclyffe construction is the part that is below ground level. If Ernst really wants to build a second Wardenclyffe installation he's going to have to tear up that nice expensive marble floor and dig a pretty deep hole. He'll also need quite a bit more isolation for that flying-saucer top capacity or he'll never be able to build up the high voltage storage that he will need. There's a reason why Tesla built his big tower so tall, and another reason for the precisely designed bumpy structure of the top part.
Ernst might learn something interesting by reading the Tesla-related work of the Corum brothers.
Quote from: TinselKoala on June 18, 2016, 08:59:16 AM
Looks like Ernst has a bad case of hero-worship going on there. Sure, Tesla was a genius, and "invented the 20th century". But there is no rule that says "geniuses are always right about everything."
What many people miss about the Wardenclyffe construction is the part that is below ground level. If Ernst really wants to build a second Wardenclyffe installation he's going to have to tear up that nice expensive marble floor and dig a pretty deep hole. He'll also need quite a bit more isolation for that flying-saucer top capacity or he'll never be able to build up the high voltage storage that he will need. There's a reason why Tesla built his big tower so tall, and another reason for the precisely designed bumpy structure of the top part.
Ernst might learn something interesting by reading the Tesla-related work of the Corum brothers.
I always got a kick out of the steam vent tunnels. Forward thinking to say the least...
PW
Wardenclyffe ...
That was My neighborhood [literally],My longtime friend Grew up with Stanford White's grandson,
Holiday meals Discussing the Lore.. both fact and fiction of Granddad's "project" were the norm.
and yes the ground and the aquifer were a much unseen component.
And Ernst is fully aware.
PW
Steam in a tube ...what a monstrous potential lay there!!, as MH will gleefully recall my resonant experiments with the Sonic Boiler ..the "Tesla Sonic boiler" as presented By Professor Savic .
another story for another day or thread [and still on the burner ,very much so ]
this is however Ernst's topic and about his efforts.
respectfully
Chet
A quote from Ernst's thread at Energetic today
Ernst
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some more stage setting
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In response to various comments on the web:
The main coil in my lab produces about 1.2 MV in short pulses.
Is that inefficient?
No, not at all. You can produce this voltage with smaller coils in CW mode, but not in these very short pulses.
Then why short pulses?
Because I want to rule out many side effects, and also to see if I could find the 11.77 Hz Earth frequency (which I did). Also I can not get enough power from the grid to run in CW-mode. This last issue will be settled soon when I get my 100 KVA generator.
Then in CW mode I will get many MV's.
Do I HAVE a machine to derive power from the wheelwork of nature?
I have, but due to measurement complications I have no definite proof (yet).
Then what is this thread about?
This thread is about the KEY to understanding Tesla's work. There are so many theories and everyone is convinced that his theory is the right one. There are so many "secret of Tesla"-s going round! What I will show you is that the secret was staring you in the face all this time. I will show you what you have missed in Tesla's work and with that little extra knowledge you will understand every detail of it.
You will understand what Tesla was doing between 1888 and 1901 and why.
You will understand how the magnifying transmitter, and the self-acting engine, and his new method for producing iron, and his discovery about a new energy source that he mentions in the 1930's are all the same thing and you will read ALL of this in Tesla's own words.
So it is not MY theory or just another theory, I will show you Tesla's theory in a way that will end all uncertainty.
There are a number of experiments anyone can do to proof that it will work.
But then, nature shows every day, every hour that it does work, so why would you need to prove anything?
As I have said before, to rebuild Wardenclyffe is (at this time) beyond any of us mainly for financial reasons. I hope this will change, but that would require some extremely wealthy person(s) to step forward. But, if my interpretation of phenomena that I have seen is correct, then it should be possible to tap this energy source with equipment that is within our reach. Due to my MOSFET/IGBT incompatibility I have not yet explored this option but yesterday I found a way around this, so I am going to explore this too.
That will take a month or so, but you may get there first....
What did I tell you in my last post here?
That according to Tesla electrical effects are caused by a gaseous medium.
Is that my theory?
Nope, plenty of quotes there.
Congratulations, you are now holding the key. You just don't know it yet.
If electricity is (like) a gas, then what law should apply?
Now read "the problem of increasing human energy" starting at "a departure from known methods". (page 312 in my copy)
Ring a bell?
The video will be up in a few days, I must give some time to my assassin(s)
The video will show the entire process of the TMT but the explanation is incomplete.
(but you now have the key)
Ernst.
Sadly he mentioned that he has no proof that it works as he theorizes it should. I admire the honesty but this is once again counting chickens before they hatch. You can't do that in this field.
Pomodoro
I think you are crossing wires with His MOSFET/IGBT claim and being able to get similar results as he sees with _his_
method...
In which he mentions someone may be able to get _that_ working shortly??
No the claim is black and white ...no grey areas !
respectfully
Chet K
Don't you find it just a little bit amusing when someone tells you he has the secret of Free Energy but can't get enough power from the grid to make it work?
I hope he doesn't wind up creating a smoking hole in the ground where his house used to be.
(Spark-Gap Tesla Coils operate in short pulses: each spark creates a short pulse to the primary, with a quick trailing edge. The rapidity of the cut-off of the spark (fast quenching) is a major factor in making a SGTC work properly. Tesla did a _lot_ of work on spark gaps and spark quenching. Once the spark cuts off, then the secondary rings as a 1/4 wave resonator and achieves VRSWR. For this to happen efficiently (high Q) the primary must be relatively loosely coupled to the secondary and the secondary needs to be relatively short and fat. With a rotary spark gap, there is a relationship between the breaks-per-second, the ringing frequency of the secondary, and the power through-put. If the speed of the gap is wrong, even though the sparks are quenched rapidly and everything else is right, the coil won't work efficiently. Solid-State Tesla Coils can be driven by the primary at the same frequency that the secondary is ringing at, so their primaries can be more tightly coupled to the secondary, and this kind of coil can truly be said to operate in "CW" (continuous wave) mode, as it does not experience the spark-gap timed interruptions. Of course an external interruptor can also be used, as in audio-modulated SSTCs. I've demonstrated my MOT-DC SGTC coil with a compressed air quenched, single-gap spark gap reaching over 1 MV operating in what Ernst would probably consider "CW" mode -- yes, running on my measly 120V 15 Amp mains. And I've also shown my hybrid SS-SG coil with a multi-element not rotary spark gap, running on 24 volts from batteries, producing high currents and jumping a 7-inch space between smooth electrodes.)
Just for your amusement, here's one of my SSTCs that is (hopefully) still in storage in the Far North:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFDjZ_Va9xg
We're gonna have to get that 'far north' thing sorted ....
SOON !
Ernst mentioned in his last post above:
Now read "the problem of increasing human energy starting at
"a departure from known methods". (Page 312 in my copy).
Can somebody Post how or where we can read that PAGE 312.
Thank you.
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FatBird
here is where the Link goes that Ernst put in that post
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B70OHRF13ajnX0QwN2Z3dF83Qjg/view
respectfully
Chet K
Thanks for the link. Crappy html5 not working here, so I got to download the whole pdf.
How big is that pdf? My browser is downloading, but has no data on file size.
I hope it's not like 500 MB...
Edit: 24.4 MB.
The video will be up in a few hours
8)
post number 27
here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20499-ere-many-generations-pass.html#post289509
respectfully
Chet
Would you take piano lessons from someone who couldn't actually play the piano, even though he has read a biography of Beethoven?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhVDcZwAls
Very interesting video. Ernst sure spent a long time on this. I probably need to watch it a few times. I seem to understand that a generator powers up the magnifying transmitter, which 'gathers' cosmic rays and stores the energy as a standing wave in the earth. Is that right?
AS mentioned in Ernst's presentation ,this Vid shows similar effect in atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at0xRBacJF8
the presentation here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhVDcZwAls
being discussed here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20499-ere-many-generations-pass.html
respectfully
Chet
It will be interesting to see what Ernst will one day disclose to prove his theory.
The main problem with proving these experiments is accurate measurements. Sometimes, especially around high frequencies and high voltages, electronic meters give inaccurate readings.
The only real way to prove anything here is of course to power the device from its own output.
In the video I saw the use of digital multimeters.
Ernst can forget about using these to convince anyone but novices about any power gains.
Any measuring equipment needs to be analog , measuring DC inputs and outputs only. They need to be far away from the device, shielded and decoupled with capacitors and inductors, Oscilloscopes with big bandwidths must prove that there is no RF at the terminals and that the current and voltage being measured is DC with very little ripple.
He has done a lot of research and he may have indeed discovered the big secret, I really hope he has, but proving it without question could be difficult task for Ernst - unless the device is self powered of course!
I see Ernst's video is doing is well! The 10K could be coming up quite soon!
I was thinking about the comment he made regarding Tesla thinking that electricity can be compressed like a gas sometimes, yet incompressible other times. It seems to make perfect sense.
In a solid such as copper, there is an almost incompressible sea of 'liquid' electrons and immobile copper atoms. The evidence of this incompressibilty being the large voltages obtained in electrostatics. Puttinga few extra electrons on the metal requires lots of pressure (volts). Similarly large pressures are required to compress a liquid, such as water.
However, most of the time we deal with making massive amounts of electrons flow through the metal which requires very little pressure (volts), since whatever number electrons go in one end of the metal , the same number are pushed out of the other - they are not made to stay on the metal.
Then we come to compressible electricity. A plasma is a gas with positive ions and free electrons in equal numbers - that is pretty much neutral, like a metal. Here both electrons and positive ions make electrons from a battery flow. The process involved in the production of electrical conduction through an insulating gas is reasonably complex but the basics can be learned online.
There is no pushing in then out of electrons like in a metal. Electrons are accepted at the negative electrode by the positive ions which are neutralized, and an equal amount of electrons from the plasma are attracted to the positive electrodes and flow back to the battery. The end result is the same as conduction through metal.
A spark is an example of a plasma. Gas doesn't normally last very long as a plasma, the ions and electrons recombine - unless the flow of current through the gas continues, but the important point is that being a conducive gas , the freely mobile ,and therefore conducting electrons in the plasma , can be compressed together, unlike those in the solid. Hence the compressible electricity of Tesla.
Exactly what that implies, I'm not too sure.
Just a thought....
So I see 10k views plus, but where is the new video with the 'secret' ??