Please find the attached "AllMagnetMotor"PDF file.
best wished
floor
@All readers
The first version of the motor (PDF above) might have too much of a sticky spot.
This next version "NewCirc TD2" is an improvement.
floor
I think all versions might have too much of a sticky spot.
For magnet motor you must creat some 3D version and more complicated...
search for Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor and his plans and watch videos... he claims that his motor works :)
@ At all readers
This is a hybrid, a cross between the "AllMagnetMotor" (PDF above)
and the "NewCircular TD 2" (PDF also above)
floor
@rstergar
Quote from rstergar
"I think all versions might have too much of a sticky spot.
For magnet motor you must creat some 3D version and more
complicated...search for Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor and
his plans and watch videos... he claims that his motor works"
End Quote
You "think all versions might have too much of a sticky spot."
This is simply that you spoke when you didn't
know what you were talking about.
Look first then speak.
"search for Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor and
his plans and watch videos"
why ?
Are you a fan of Muammer Yildiz ?
"he claims that his motor works"
Do you also claim that his motor works ?
Many say the Yildiz device was a hoax.
"For magnet motor you must creat some 3D version"
We are working in 3 d, or did you mean 3d simulation ?
All the real world is 3d, magnets included.
"more complicated is needed"
I don't think so.
rstergar 20 posts since November 01, 2013.
Just hit and run posts, but it looks like you have done some
real experimenting with magnets as well.
My guess is that you will never read this reply.
Check out these topics if you like
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/
and
http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/
If then you are well informed upon this particular subject, then
please do give some RELEVANT criticisms, ideas and so on. Really !
A variation of the motor design.
See the PNG file below.
floor
@AllReaders
Shrinking the view of the pdf files until they just fill the screen, allows
one to view them as a flip book / video.
To under stand the how and why of this device see the topic /link below
and or the Zip file below.
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/
floor
@ all readers
Please find the attached PDF file (NewCircularTD3. pdf).
Shrink the view until 1 page just fills the screen, then
click through the pages (like a video).
floor
@ all readers
Sorry for the errors in the NewCircularTD 3.pdf file.
Please find the attached NewCircularTD 3fix.pdf file
floor
Thanks for the info Floor. I'm still trying to understand the concept and hope to test something soon.
There was a patent of a buoyancy based motor where magnets contract and expand
the volume of the floater.
May be this is the way to go?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=FR&NR=2828716
The good thing about it is that you only expand/contract once, but the force is generated from a magnitude of the bodies.
@Telecom
thanks
@ all readers
My tests clearly show that this method of shielding / the design presented ...
CAN NOT FUNCTION AS I HAD HOPED
HOWEVER
Please see those other designs and.... the demonstrations of those other designs (videos)
which are successful at the topics below.
http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/
http://overunity.com/14311/work-from-2-magnets-19-output-2/
Several videos by floor @
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5an8hd_rtangsld2_tech
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ckdkn
several videos by Gotoluc @ or near by to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmCQVg9qRmQ
best wishes
floor
@ All readers
Here is alink to Luc's most recent video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUlDMY1iE5A
@ All readers
I worked out the shield bug !!!!!
I threw up..... a new video.
It shows an effective magnet shield in action.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5eg7kk_magnetshield-1_tech
As far as I'm concerned, this is all open source and public domain.
All in common...that's the only real over unity there is.
Thanks for every thing Luc.
Peace... Out
floor
@all readers
It should be assumed that......
the changes in the design of the magnet alignments (last video).
are to be applied to the alll magnet motor designs which I previously
presented in this topic.
best wishes
floor
@All readers
Given below as 3 PNG files, are some details of the
interactions in the last video / link I posted
ABOVE
These interactions have also been detailed in various
arrangements in this and others of the related topics.
@ all readers
I have deleated my recent video "magnetshield-1" WHICH DID NOT WORK and
which was @ http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5eg7kk_magnetshield-1_tech
best wishes
floor
Using different magnet configurations and alignments as shown in
the attached JPG file below "AllMagnetMotorRealigned.JPG". is the right
fix for this continuous rotation device.
Many of the designs I previously posted in this topic may
properly function if the the alignments are made as shown in the
"AllMagnetMotorRealigned.JPG".
Also
I have re-posted the file "NewCircularTD 3fix.PDF" below
The magnet alignments used in this PDF file should be changed
to that as illustrated in the AllMagnetMotorRealigned.JPG below.
I have not tested this device as a unit, but only the interactions.
see the topic
http://overunity.com/17097/magnet-force-shield/
floor
This design addition (below) can enable lighter construction methods.
floor
Design / method variations.
floor
A rotation to linear design.
These novel designs, methods, devices, drawings and
videos are given into the public domain.
floor
These rotating designs ended up balancing out to zero net gain.
Reciprocating and linear motions can work out to OU.
floor
Quote from: Floor on August 31, 2018, 03:44:34 PM
These rotating designs ended up balancing out to zero net gain.
Reciprocating and linear motions can work out to OU.
floor
Can you please show a view which is facing the setup?
Also, which forces actually cause the linear motion?
Thanks
Hi Telecom
yes I'll do a drawing and post it ...
..........................................
forces and position as shown in present drawing... explained
There are ONLY TWO motions that CAN OCCUR by any of the magnets.
These motions are ... the rotation of the "rotating armature" and / or sliding of the "linearly actuated member"
All of the magnets are physically restrained from any other motions.
Because the two magnets which are mounted upon the "rotating armature"
are in between the 2 "frame" magnets and the 2 "linearly actuated member" magnets ....
repelling and attracting forces are in balance between all magnets (in terms of the ONLY TWO motions which CAN OCCUR).
There is no NET magnetic force which can cause motion of any of the magnets (1. rotational or 2. linear) when the
"rotating armature" magnets are in this position.
the "return springs" force the "linearly actuated member" to slide the right. This is the position of the "linearly actuated member"
as shown in the present drawing (returned). (no work against magnets... along this vector, left or right)
In the absence of the "return springs" and while the "rotating armature" magnets are in the position shown,
the "linearly actuated member" is free to slide left or right !
If the "rotating armature" magnets are rotated out of this position, there exists a repelling force between the
"linearly actuated member" magnets and the "frame" magnets, that force will cause the "linearly actuated member"
to move to the left, while at the same time, compressing the "return springs"
hope that helps
floor
Ok, I'm not 100% sure still how everything going to work.
I was revisiting your work from 2 magnets posts, and an idea came to me that
the sum of work of the sliding magnets is near 0 , since the forces are almost equal, and work in the opposite directions, before and after the central position.
I wonder if your apparatus is still intact to do some measurements.
@Telecom
First let me apologize for taking so long to respond. Been very busy and I don't get online
very often these days.
Yes My test bed is available
floor
Quote from: Floor on September 18, 2018, 06:04:13 PM
@Telecom
First let me apologize for taking so long to respond. Been very busy and I don't get online
very often these days.
Yes My test bed is available
floor
The idea is to check the work done during the whole cycle of the magnet going from attraction to repelling
(or vice versa), causing the cross movement of another magnet.
@Telecom
Have you watched these videos ?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ichk2
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gzr2q
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59r978
floor
Great craftsmanship!
In your second video you mentioned that the the magnet should move transversely when you move your shielded magnet along it.
However nothing moves....
Is it a riddle???
No riddle
New circular notes
Lenz law
not just magnetic attraction and magnetic repulsion balancing during the rotation.
...................................
the magnitude of an induced voltage is (in part), dependent upon a magnetic fields speed of motion,
and / or
a fields speed of expansion or collapse while passing through a conductor, is it not ?
..................................
inductive "kick back" of one coil, fed to the start up inductance of the other coil ?
but are the voltage PEAKS in sink or are they 180 out ? or what ?
....................................
one field through a coil needs to be collapsing, while another field though an other coil is expanding ?
OR ?
not just series electric polarity, but a COLLAPSING magnetic field, induced electric voltage polarity, connected in series (+ to -), to (an EXPANDING ?) magnetic field, induced electric voltage polarity ?
OR SHOULD IT BE
not just series electric polarity, but a COLLAPSING magnetic field, induced electric voltage polarity, connected in series (+ to -), to (a COLLAPSING ?) magnetic field, induced electric voltage polarity ?
inductive kick back of one coil, fed to the start up inductance of the other coil ?
should not, the voltages PEAKS (ALTHOUGH STILL + TO -) of those two coils,
be made to be in sink ? and not 180 out (as are the voltage polarities) or what ?
Note .... there is no sudden disconnect of the electric currents generated in these rotating designs
nor an abrupt break away of the magnetic fields from the coils. No extremely rapid collapse
of the magnetic field, for example... as there would be during a complete disconnect of a
power supply from a coil that it was supplying.
can there be a neutralization of Lenz actions by the creation of a balance between Lenz
actions ?
just pondering ..... NOT LOOKING FOR "PAT ANSWERS" unless, you personally, have
already demonstrated a way to make further advantage of the Frodrik Lenz law. Just pondering.
Please look at these magnet set interactions attached below as "Force balancing demo"
drawings /JPGs numbers 1 through 4.
floor
Sorry, this last post was intended for a different topic.
floor