Quotei know in detail all points of that circuit and other variations that i did in last years
Hi, Mr. Rocha and thank You for your pointing to the MAC's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iER4K1O7iMc&t=17s) and for your visit again 8) "Elitist" replicators will be tamed in this board for sure...
But could You please give us hint of the purpose of the intriguing arrangement of the wire in your scheme and devices?
Is it crucial for replication of the proper function (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY3Mr2pAErw) of Your circuit? I can see, that the replicators still ignore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVI05A_q_I) this "detail" and I feel uneasy with it.
Instead of direct answer you can just indicate it kindly with a single letter:
A) for protection of Darlington transistor against spikes
B ) for maintaining the parameter oscillator character of your circuit
C) like an antenna for spreading of radiation into outside
D) for another purpose not mentioned above...
Thank You indeed very much for your occasional reply!
Best, Zephir.
unfortunately was my last contribution about this subject .
Seems some "funny" persons like ridicularize my efforts and my work and in that way, certainly they not need any kind of support, i tell that because even in their elitist forum "overunityresearch.com" they simple not show any respect by my person and my efforts and by what i share .
In that way no more information will "travel" from this forum to overunityresearch.com .
This topic was blocked in Overunity.com just because some persons get "pouting" , and prefer go work in their "private" forum where they feel freely to use their habitual behavior and language and talk what they want . So in this way , they can continue with their jokes ,and laugh because laugh is good for health , but the will not have nothing more by me .
Myself do not understand, the reason to they continue to waste time on something they do not believe or even understand by the way .
I already share the essential for anyone who is interested in build that circuit otherwise people not satisfied with my decision just , leave it .
I'm really a fool thinking some persons could change :( its my fault .
Nelson Rocha
Quote from: Zephir on April 23, 2017, 12:47:47 PM
Hi, Mr. Rocha and thank You for your pointing to the MAC's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iER4K1O7iMc&t=17s) and for your visit again 8) "Elitist" replicators will be tamed in this board for sure...
But could You please give us hint of the purpose of the intriguing arrangement of the wire in your scheme and devices?
Is it crucial for replication of the proper function (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY3Mr2pAErw) of Your circuit? I can see, that the replicators still ignore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elVI05A_q_I) this "detail" and I feel uneasy with it.
Instead of direct answer you can just indicate it kindly with a single letter:
A) for protection of Darlington transistor against spikes
B ) for maintaining the parameter oscillator character of your circuit
C) like an antenna for spreading of radiation into outside
D) for another purpose not mentioned above...
Thank You indeed very much for your occasional reply!
Best, Zephir.
I can understand the questions, but once already asked, and further asking requires further asking, then i dint think there is need to further ask. OK?
If you just keep on asking it becomes distracting and disturbing. You have said your part numerous times and I think everyone has caught on. If nobody has answered you by now, then stop pressing for it. Otherwise the only purpose is to fill pages and bother others.
Mags
Quote from: nelsonrochaa
unfortunately was my last contribution about this subject .
I fully understand your sentiments Nelson. I did hope people would be more
receptive and appreciative to what you have shared. As they say, "It wasn't
in the cards."
For me and a few others, we will work in private and eventually discover the
secrets you have unlocked, walking in your shoes miles behind. Your gift
will not be wasted.
hugs
Nelson
Quote
unfortunately was my last contribution about this subject .
Seems some "funny" persons like ridicularize my efforts and my work and in that way, certainly they not need any kind of support, i tell that because even in their elitist forum "overunityresearch.com" they simple not show any respect by my person and my efforts and by what i share .
In that way no more information will "travel" from this forum to overunityresearch.com .
This topic was blocked in Overunity.com just because some persons get "pouting" , and prefer go work in their "private" forum where they feel freely to use their habitual behavior and language and talk what they want . So in this way , they can continue with their jokes ,and laugh because laugh is good for health , but the will not have nothing more by me .
Myself do not understand, the reason to they continue to waste time on something they do not believe or even understand by the way .
I already share the essential for anyone who is interested in build that circuit otherwise people not satisfied with my decision just , leave it .
I'm really a fool thinking some persons could change :( its my fault .
Nelson Rocha
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To be absolutely clear
there is only one reason the topic was locked and the discussion left this forum
member Zephir calling builders here Liars and frauds who purposely build to Hide OU
And member Zephir polluting the topic with redundant profoundly obvious "Epiphanies and observations" .
member Zephir did state along with these criminal accusations that OU is easy...
The rest is unfortunate [over there at OUR]
regardless your decision I will address that ASAP.
respectfully
Chet K
Stefan has not addressed this yet?[the Zephir crimes]
I know he is busy moving house atm
Tomorrow I'll move all nontechnical posts (including this last mine one which was left unanswered) into psychosociologically oriented thread named "Replicators vs. inventors" or somehow similar for the sake of continuity and free speech.
I think, there is principal conflict of interests: the replicators have respect and they want to get know-how cheaply (without exerting work), the inventors have know-how and they want to get the respect cheaply (i.e. without saving some work for replicators). It's symmetric situation and both groups get upset once they cannot get what they want soon - so they tend to ridicule each other. This is so natural and predictable outcome, that it can be discussed in dedicated thread and not maintained in every thread of this forum.
I even think, that the problem of borrowing information (hidden work) from inventors is not very different from problem of draining work from overunity devices and similar strategy could be used (I mean other than thick wires and high voltage pulses). The inventors are negentropic subjects which advanced time arrow of their epoch. They resemble black holes which don't release information into outside despite they attract everyone with it.
That's a shame Nelson.
The other discussion thread was locked because we were all being abused by one other member.
I'm really enjoying your circuit. Thanks you for your contribution so far.
QuoteI'm really a fool thinking some persons could change
Like I or Vortex1 has already said, I'm not fond of "cargo cult" replicators, who just wire the diagrams blindly and when they don't generate nothing interesting, then they attack the inventor, who gave them this info selflessly. But from the same reason I don't start with replications until I will not get the problem at least a bit and until I have no idea, what and how I could get from it.
If I would want to see neon tube powered with some black box circuit, I can simply switch the plasma ball on my table with the same result. Look before you leap.
QuoteThe other discussion thread was locked because we were all being abused by one other member
When I did come here I just experienced the conflict of Nelson Rocha with "elitist" but visibly frustrated replicators, who started to spread conviction, that the overunity is impossible because they failed with it many times. Such a defeatist mindset will not help anyone here so I asked the "elitists" to leave forum with such an attitude. I recognized Mr. Rocha as the only competent constructor here in this moment and claimed his Radiant Exciter as an important and simple enough prototype for future progress. In response to it Grumage opened a new thread about it.
Quote from: Zephir on April 23, 2017, 06:32:32 PM
Like I or Vortex1 has already said, I'm not fond of "cargo cult" replicators, who just wire the diagrams blindly and when they don't generate nothing interesting, then they attack the inventor, who gave them this info selflessly. But from the same reason I don't start with replications until I will not get the problem at least a bit and until I have no idea, what and how I could get from it.
If I would want to see neon tube powered with some black box circuit, I can simply start the plasma ball on my table with the same result.
[size=78%]You're the only one doing any attacking here Zephir by your anonymous & libellous accusations. We're just trying to work with what Nelson has so generously shared. [/size]
QuoteWe're just trying to work with what Nelson has so generously shared.
Whole this forum is filled with "hard work" - yet no usable results are still visible. Work is not enough by itself - the thinking is sometimes also important. Work smarter not harder. If you're not smart enough, first watch the smarter people, like I do. I'm analyzing their videos all the time.
We have at least three replications already, but they all behave in unpredictable way and they oscillate more wildly, than the Mini Radiant Exciter at original videos.. For now they all also ignored my recommendation to replicate Nelson Rocha's prototype exactly. If nothing else, then the ferrite rod passing the toroid will block high frequencies propagating into circuit and it will make it more harmonic and less unpredictable.
In addition, Mr. Rocha pointed to interesting behavior, like the recharging of capacitors and another effects, which are visible at his videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY3Mr2pAErw). Instead of playing with neon lamp these effects can be tested for now.
QuoteYou're the only one doing any attacking here Zephir by your anonymous & libellous accusations.
I see, so that Nelson Rocha is whining, that he was ignored before years on behalf of Akula and ridiculed in previous threads. Now, when this thread is moderated for his attackers, he continues to whine, that he is still ridiculed at another webs and that he will still say nothing because of it. OK...
During this time his attackers are whining that Zephir accused them from attacking the inventors and disrupting the overunity research and that they will not "do replications" here anymore. Boys, get mature for moment.
I can understand that you all have some reasons, for which you don't want to cooperate smoothly - but why to cover it with accusations of grievances? This is not social club or senior house for retired loners - you're all wasting too much time at this forum for too little results. What will happen, if one of thousands of threads here will get terminated because someone's feeling offended? Absolutely nothing - this forum stagnates for years already because new social platforms emerged and YouTube is full of way more interesting (and also way better documented) projects of people, who are willing to collaborate and share information without any social overhead.
Get real finally.
and what did you accomplish by calling builders here Liars and frauds who purposely hide OU
and adding
Zephir quote
OU is easy they hide it here all the time [the builders]
how do these lies help things?
you can continue to censor my question
or answer it ?
Quote from: Zephir on April 23, 2017, 07:25:43 PM
During this time his attackers are whining that Zephir accused them from attacking the inventors and disrupting the overunity research. Boys, get mature for moment.
Ok referring to yourself in the third person. That speaks volumes. You are an anonymous rude, abusive individual who does contributes nothing but noise. You really are wrecking this forum. I really hope Stefan bans you soon.
..and now you change the name of the thread are you trying to hide Nelson's work now?
OK, now you can exchange your opinions here in piece and occasionally I'll delete it as a whole.
It's not my intention to promote here anything, which isn't directly related to overunity research.
Internet is already full of Facebook and similar social clubs.
Some many years ago, when the pressure would build and people began cluttering the good research areas with their frustrations, I created a thread called "THE RANT ROOM" where you could go and blow off steam, rant and rave and relieve pent up frustrations.
When you been around forums a long time you see certain patterns emerge, false prophets and wide eyed followers. They all have a certain form and pattern easily detectable.
Those who pretend to know what they don't know. The crumb droppers. The POSERS Those who say:"Just read this "Secret Of" book or follow my shaky blurry videos and you will know the secret".
They won't just tell you the secret 'cause they don't know it. They are hoping you'll stumble on something and report it.
Fact is: no one here knows exactly the "how to" of free energy or at least I certainly don't. But over the years on this and other forums, I have seen the posers in action with their sycophant following.
So I wrote this little parable some time back for amusement and am posting it again in good fun, for amusement and laugh if it helps.
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The Parable of Elitus Pompus, Most High, and the Unworthy Neophytes
A crowd is gathered, Elitus Pompus, Most High Priest of the Temple of St. Telesa is giving his presence and blessing to a crowd of neophytes gathered at his feet.
"Master.....master", upspake one of the neophytes "Tell us again of the story of The Holy Radiant Light and how we may be worthy to receive it"
Elitus Pompus stroked his beard, looked up at the clouds, then lowered his vision and beamed his eyes into the crowd and replied impatiently and in a sing-song tone "How many times have I told you that story, have you not read the Scripture of St. Telesa? Only the most worthy are open to revelation of the secrets of the scripture, but by the grace of my presence I will tell you again.
You, lower than low, will only be worthy to receive of the Holy Radiant Light when you have read the scriptures at least 6.....err was it 5 times, maybe 7,... no 6........yeah thats it.......6 times. During that time you must fast and pray eating only the Most Holy crumbs dropping from the table where the High Priests have their repast.
"You must cover yourself in sackcloth, and go into the Holy Temple and observe the emanations of the Sparkus Gappus, not all the way in the temple, but on your knees towards the back for you are not even yet worthy of this".
"You must have received at least one visitation of the mighty feathered angel Blabemus the protector".
"You must go into your closet and pray, then you will receive the blessing of the swirling whorl and the "Espresso Machinus"
"Then you must beg for alms in the streets, giving all that you have collected to the High Priests, that their Sacred Ego's may be maintained in comfort".
"Then and only then may you be deemed worthy to receive a glimpse of the Holy Radiant Light Event".
"But Master", one of the neophytes chimed nervously, "we have done all these things, still we have not been graced with the Light".
Elitus Pompus sternly replied "How dare you ask again and have the nerve to ask for more" he went on more harshly, rapping the knuckles of the supplicant with his cane "Have I not given unto you my razzle-dazzle, and my hocus-pocus, still you ask ? You, who are not worthy to touch even the gilded edge of my robe? Go back to the scriptures and read again and do more penance, then you may be worthy.
He went on now in a rage "and how many of you have even opened the book of St. Telesa the Sparkus Maximus. Do any of you even have a notion of the worth of his gospels?"
The neophytes took out small whips from their robes and while weeping began flagellating themselves in penance. One of them cried out "Oh master, forgive us for we are unworthy and know not what we ask"
The crowd began to quickly break up and Elitus Pompus walked brusquely away muttering to himself:
"Damn neophytes ask too many questions and want to much of us, as if we had all the answers". Don't they understand, this is a #$%&@(? Mystery School not a Science Club".
The end.
Quote from: Vortex1 on April 23, 2017, 11:18:10 PM
Some many years ago, when the pressure would build and people began cluttering the good research areas with their frustrations, I created a thread called "THE RANT ROOM" where you could go and blow off steam, rant and rave and relieve pent up frustrations.
When you been around forums a long time you see certain patterns emerge, false prophets and wide eyed followers. They all have a certain form and pattern easily detectable.
Those who pretend to know what they don't know. The crumb droppers. The POSERS Those who say:"Just read this "Secret Of" book or follow my shaky blurry videos and you will know the secret".
They won't just tell you the secret 'cause they don't know it. They are hoping you'll stumble on something and report it.
Fact is: no one here knows exactly the "how to" of free energy or at least I certainly don't. But over the years on this and other forums, I have seen the posers in action with their sycophant following.
So I wrote this little parable some time back for amusement and am posting it again in good fun, for amusement and laugh if it helps.
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The Parable of Elitus Pompus, Most High, and the Unworthy Neophytes
A crowd is gathered, Elitus Pompus, Most High Priest of the Temple of St. Telesa is giving his presence and blessing to a crowd of neophytes gathered at his feet.
"Master.....master", upspake one of the neophytes "Tell us again of the story of The Holy Radiant Light and how we may be worthy to receive it"
Elitus Pompus stroked his beard, looked up at the clouds, then lowered his vision and beamed his eyes into the crowd and replied impatiently and in a sing-song tone "How many times have I told you that story, have you not read the Scripture of St. Telesa? Only the most worthy are open to revelation of the secrets of the scripture, but by the grace of my presence I will tell you again.
You, lower than low, will only be worthy to receive of the Holy Radiant Light when you have read the scriptures at least 6.....err was it 5 times, maybe 7,... no 6........yeah thats it.......6 times. During that time you must fast and pray eating only the Most Holy crumbs dropping from the table where the High Priests have their repast.
"You must cover yourself in sackcloth, and go into the Holy Temple and observe the emanations of the Sparkus Gappus, not all the way in the temple, but on your knees towards the back for you are not even yet worthy of this".
"You must have received at least one visitation of the mighty feathered angel Blabemus the protector".
"You must go into your closet and pray, then you will receive the blessing of the swirling whorl and the "Espresso Machinus"
"Then you must beg for alms in the streets, giving all that you have collected to the High Priests, that their Sacred Ego's may be maintained in comfort".
"Then and only then may you be deemed worthy to receive a glimpse of the Holy Radiant Light Event".
"But Master", one of the neophytes chimed nervously, "we have done all these things, still we have not been graced with the Light".
Elitus Pompus sternly replied "How dare you ask again and have the nerve to ask for more" he went on more harshly, rapping the knuckles of the supplicant with his cane "Have I not given unto you my razzle-dazzle, and my hocus-pocus, still you ask ? You, who are not worthy to touch even the gilded edge of my robe? Go back to the scriptures and read again and do more penance, then you may be worthy.
He went on now in a rage "and how many of you have even opened the book of St. Telesa the Sparkus Maximus. Do any of you even have a notion of the worth of his gospels?"
The neophytes took out small whips from their robes and while weeping began flagellating themselves in penance. One of them cried out "Oh master, forgive us for we are unworthy and know not what we ask"
The crowd began to quickly break up and Elitus Pompus walked brusquely away muttering to himself:
"Damn neophytes ask too many questions and want to much of us, as if we had all the answers". Don't they understand, this is a god@@am Mystery School not a Science Club".
The end.
Are you in "berserk" mode ? seems so .
What shall for me the "ou-device" perform ? Giving grid-/infra-structure freedome !
The ability to use rural land as "home area" without to pay horrend money for land !
The ability to use electricity as e-mobil drive energy !
The ability to serve electric energy for 1 Euro-cent/KWh ! Everywhere.
The social aspects of cheaper renewable energy : it will change the known industrial and financial parameters of our society.
One inventor aspect : compression of the technology to a compact -portable- device
Dear Vortex1.
A great deal has gone on since I turned in last night.
With respect, Nelson has never claimed his Mini Radiant Exciter was an OU device, merely a " tool " for exploration into this very Grey area.
I can understand your frustration as electronics was your discipline, you see nothing more than an elaborate Blocking Oscillator. My background is more mechanical in nature with a poor grounding in electronics, I was intrigued by Nelson's video presentation and decided, at the time, to look a little deeper.
Three devices were built, different cores used, and we all saw different results. Not having the knowledge ( me ) the project was shelved. I decided recently to open up a thread in order to have some of the unusual, to me, operation waveforms explained by the more knowledgeable.
Sadly the whole affair has gone rather badly so I would personally like to apologise to Nelson for any distress I may have caused him.
Kind regards, Graham.
Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 24, 2017, 04:26:33 AM
Are you in "berserk" mode ? seems so .
That response literally made me LOL.
Vortex I would point to what Grum said. I dont think
Nelson made any claims. I'm certainly not building it because of claims. I'm just trying to have a conversation with a few blokes who are way beneath your pay grade. :) [/size]
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Quote from: Jimboot on April 24, 2017, 07:01:17 AM
That response literally made me LOL.
Yes, Nelson has a very sporting sense of humor. It would be a hoot to live next door
to him.
Me and my "berserk mode", what have I created...?
Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 24, 2017, 04:26:33 AM
Are you in "berserk" mode ? seems so .
The answer to that is positively "yes"! Monty Python style :D
I think all that "radiant energy" is affecting me.
Dog-One..... so it was you who created the "berserk" mode description! ;) I like that. In over 55 years of watching waveforms on a scope there is not a more fitting description for what we sometimes see.
Quote from: Grumage on April 24, 2017, 06:41:32 AM
Dear Vortex1.
A great deal has gone on since I turned in last night.
With respect, Nelson has never claimed his Mini Radiant Exciter was an OU device, merely a " tool " for exploration into this very Grey area.
I can understand your frustration as electronics was your discipline, you see nothing more than an elaborate Blocking Oscillator. My background is more mechanical in nature with a poor grounding in electronics, I was intrigued by Nelson's video presentation and decided, at the time, to look a little deeper.
Three devices were built, different cores used, and we all saw different results. Not having the knowledge ( me ) the project was shelved. I decided recently to open up a thread in order to have some of the unusual, to me, operation waveforms explained by the more knowledgeable.
Sadly the whole affair has gone rather badly so I would personally like to apologise to Nelson for any distress I may have caused him.
Kind regards, Graham.
Dear Graham
The person in question has some nearly sixty videos on youtube dating back 3 or 4 years to the present. Most are (to me) boring, bad camera work, and again, to me, show nothing of value, but that is only my opinion, to others they may be valuable.
Many have the term "Radiant" in the title, quite a few of them have "free energy" in the title or "free radiant energy" which is IMO "biasing" the viewer. "Overunity" is also used.
Many (not all) are being led to believe the so called "Mini Exciter" is but a stepping stone, master this and then move on to the real "free energy" stuff.
Lighting a neon bulb takes microwatts of power. So what is the claim for the circuit?
Charging a capacitor with one wire? No such thing, there is always another wire, it is the capacitance in the air that leads back to the circuit ground.
Developing funny waveforms on a scope? No, I think it's the undefinable, un-measurable, un-provable "radiant energy" term being bandied about again.
I only ask that claimants be held to the same standards in the electronic arena as if they were making claims for a new engine design and the truth of the situation will be evident i.e. a solid measurement protocol should be used but is nowhere evident.
IMO it couldn't hurt to use those standards as the template for vetting truth over fiction.
Kind Regards
Vortex1
P.S. IMO you need not apologize, you caused no harm. Perhaps when claimants (per the video titles) are misleading, they should feel some distress, after all, this is why most humans have a conscience.
Quote from: Vortex1 on April 24, 2017, 08:30:36 AM
Many are being led to believe the so called "Mini Exciter" is but a stepping stone, master this and then move on to the real "free energy" stuff.
I don't need a nanny mate :P
Quote from: Jimboot on April 24, 2017, 08:36:46 AM
I don't need a nanny mate :P
I said many, Jim Boot, why did you assume I implied you were part of "many"?
"many" also implies "not all".
I was more referring to many of the hundreds of viewers of his videos.
Sorry that you took it personally.
regards
It's not often that I rant, but since there is a place for it, there are a few
concepts I feel are worth instilling into the minds of those that be...
In the land of Electronics Engineering there is a concept called 'equivalent circuits'.
Basically this idea places similar functionality to a group of different circuits, under
the pretense that they perform identical 'duties' in any and all circuits, and by this
analogy, a simpler circuit may replace a more complex one, without err.
While in most situations this proves to be true, the very idea of simplifying a circuit or
or "redrawing" a schematic in an easier-to-read format: may be our Achilles Heel.
As it pertains to critically timed oscillators, or tuned resonant circuits, the replacement of
a single component, or portion of a circuit, (while may be well intended) could throw the
entire device out of synch.
Any difference in the time it takes an electrical signal to travel from one side of a circuit to
another, even if only a fraction of a microsecond, denotes a change in frequency.
It is by this discrete analysis that we find the circuits to be not truly "equivalent", but
merely "similar circuits". Or circuits that perform similar functions, but not identical.
This is not to undermine the EE process, or to take away from the importance of
Fourier Transforms, and simplifying our circuits- as these things have their place in
electronics, but in "FE", maybe not so much.
So what is the appropriate course of action?
Does this mean that we cannot make changes to a 'free energy' device?
Of course not.
Make your changes, perform your experiments, but keep in mind and be
very aware of what these changes 'actually do' to the circuit.
Certain things are not inherently taught to us, because in real-world situations
they don't really matter.
Two objects traveling at the speed of light, one takes a slightly longer path,
Which one will arrive first? And how does this change in timing affect the rest
of the circuit?
Does this change cause interference? Or reduce it?
In a normal circuit we don't care. Your hair dryer will still
function whether we use two 50-ohm resistors, or a single 100.
But the electricity DOES care! It could mean the signal arrives at
the switch some quantity of time earlier than in the other scenario.
Think on this, instill it into your minds, and let it ferment.
We must advance this concept before we can tackle the next issue.
Your thoughts on this are appreciated.
Sm0ky2
Quote from: Vortex1 on April 24, 2017, 08:30:36 AM
Dear Graham
The person in question has some nearly sixty videos on youtube dating back 3 or 4 years to the present. Most are (to me) boring, bad camera work, and again, to me, show nothing of value, but that is only my opinion, to others they may be valuable.
Many have the term "Radiant" in the title, quite a few of them have "free energy" in the title or "free radiant energy" which is IMO "biasing" the viewer. "Overunity" is also used.
Many (not all) are being led to believe the so called "Mini Exciter" is but a stepping stone, master this and then move on to the real "free energy" stuff.
Lighting a neon bulb takes microwatts of power. So what is the claim for the circuit?
Charging a capacitor with one wire? No such thing, there is always another wire, it is the capacitance in the air that leads back to the circuit ground.
Developing funny waveforms on a scope? No, I think it's the undefinable, un-measurable, un-provable "radiant energy" term being bandied about again.
I only ask that claimants be held to the same standards in the electronic arena as if they were making claims for a new engine design and the truth of the situation will be evident i.e. a solid measurement protocol should be used but is nowhere evident.
IMO it couldn't hurt to use those standards as the template for vetting truth over fiction.
Kind Regards
Vortex1
P.S. IMO you need not apologize, you caused no harm. Perhaps when claimants (per the video titles) are misleading, they should feel some distress, after all, this is why most humans have a conscience.
"The person in question has some nearly sixty videos on youtube dating back 3 or 4 years to the present. Most are (to me) boring, bad camera work, and again, to me, show nothing of value, but that is only my opinion, to others they may be valuable."
I understand that my vídeos could be boring to most people,and is perfectly normal that happens because i dont dedicate myself to produce vídeos with the objective to become a youtuber mine money producer ; i already explain that i use youtube and gdrive to store almost of my own tests in vídeo shots .
Listen well ..... MY OWN TESTS . And that is the reason to i have not 6 vídeos but 63 since i begin store them in youtube .
"Many have the term "Radiant" in the title, quite a few of them have "free energy" in the title or "free radiant energy" which is IMO "biasing" the viewer. "Overunity" is also used."Do you think that terms implicity is to call people ? Hope that could change in near future because you could see how high is the views in my vídeos. Are you saying that persons like me or by example TK, that use the term electric OU or the term Radiant are try only biasing their vídeos ? I really dont agree but it is your opinion and i respect that .
"Many (not all) are being led to believe the so called "Mini Exciter" is but a stepping stone, master this and then move on to the real "free energy" stuff."Did i ask someone to open a thread with mini radiant exciter ? I think not i only accept Grumage prupose to publish , and for sure he will remember the first thing that i say to him in PM was going to happen, and for sure Grumage will start smile when read this . :)
"Lighting a neon bulb takes microwatts of power. So what is the claim for the circuit?
Charging a capacitor with one wire? No such thing, there is always another wire, it is the capacitance in the air that leads back to the circuit ground.
Developing funny waveforms on a scope? No, I think it's the undefinable, un-measurable, un-provable radiant energy" term being bandied about again."
I understand that you knowledge of your years of experience, could be the reason to that circuit not motivate you , is perfectly plausible so you should ignore. Nothing could stop you ignore that, so what is bothering you?
"I only ask that claimants be held to the same standards in the electronic arena as if they were making claims for a new engine design and the truth of the situation will be evident i.e. a solid measurement protocol should be used but is nowhere evident.
IMO it couldn't hurt to use those standards as the template for vetting truth over fiction."I already told you that i'm not claim nothing at all, and i never asked for your approval or someone else's to validate any of my circuits , otherwise it will make all the sense do the things in that way . But this is not the reality, is it?
Maybe just some understanding problem by your side about this subject.
Kind Regards
Nelson Rocha
Quote from: nelsonrochaa on April 24, 2017, 01:01:43 PM
Did i ask someone to open a thread with mini radiant exciter ? I think not i only accept Grumage prupose to publish , and for sure he will remember the first thing that i say to him in PM was going to happen, and for sure Grumage will start smile when read this . :
Kind Regards
Nelson Rocha
Dear Nelson.
I'm smiling, yes indeed, I had to read your PM again, but your prophecy was absolutely correct. ;)
I hope there are no hard feelings between us? I just need to finish off the Spring house painting so I can put that circuit back together and try out some other ideas.
Kind regards, Graham.
Quote from: Grumage on April 24, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
Dear Nelson.
I'm smiling, yes indeed, I had to read your PM again, but your prophecy was absolutely correct. ;)
I hope there are no hard feelings between us? I just need to finish off the Spring house painting so I can put that circuit back together and try out some other ideas.
Kind regards, Graham.
Hi dear Grumage,
i know that you know too that "prophecy" will happen ;) is mankind nature ;)
And of course there no hard feelings , i know perfectly separate the wheat from the darnel.
Hope you enjoy your tests with circuit , with not so much "noise" :) like happen until now because until know It looks like more a mix "salad" of ideas and complains. What should be a simple experiment test, seems become a big confusion and a contest of who Which lights a neon better :)
or "mine is better" than yours ....
Cheers
Nelson Rocha
I suppose the same is not true with everyone, but I have watched your videos Nelson
and paid attention to the time sequence of your discoveries. Without a doubt you have
shared with me the goose that lays the golden eggs. The doors of prophecy are opening.
Curious if you might need an assistant. ;)
After then I'm interested in becoming an assistant of Dog-One.. 8)
Even if Nelson Rocha would share anything from his circuit design, his example is very important motivation of public into research of overunity - we have anyone like him in the Western world today. And (t)his motivation is particularly important today, when the mainstream physics ignores everything related to radiant energy and overunity. At this stage the motivation may be more important than the actual commercial results.
Quote from: Vortex1 on April 24, 2017, 09:01:07 AM
I said many, Jim Boot, why did you assume I implied you were part of "many"?
"many" also implies "not all".
I was more referring to many of the hundreds of viewers of his videos.
Sorry that you took it personally.
regards
Gawd sorry! I did not take it personally in the slightest . I meant so what if people jump to conclusions and make assumptions. That's their problem.
Quote from: Zephir on April 24, 2017, 05:43:28 PM
After then I'm interested in becoming an assistant of Dog-One.. 8)
Even if Nelson Rocha would share anything from his circuit design, his example is very important motivation of public into research of overunity - we have anyone like him in the Western world today. And (t)his motivation is particularly important today, when the mainstream physics ignores everything related to radiant energy and overunity. At this stage the motivation may be more important than the actual commercial results.
You love your !radiant! energy Zephir.
So tell us all--what is this !radiant! energy?
Brad
Zephir
There is an elephant following you around the room
You called the replicators here Liars who purposely replicate to hide OU
and you followed up With OU is easy !! they hide it here !!
why would such a man need to assist anyone here?
Show us how members here Lied and hid
easy OU??
you have erased and censored this request many times?
teach us ,show us ??
@I see replicator Brad posted as I was typing
Morning Brad
Quote from: TinManwhat is this !radiant! energy?
In dense aether model the space-time is formed with foamy fluctuations of aether (false vacuum). This foam can mediate energy in two ways: in transverse waves of light along the walls of its bubbles and in longitudinal waves - so called scalar waves - which result from compression of the cells of this foam. Their dual counterpart is the A-field at the center or toroid coil, whereas the normal magnetic field remains constrained around it as a normal B-field. The analogy of this dual wave spreading are surface and underwater (sound) waves in the water. The sound waves are weaker, but much faster than the surface waves. This analogy enables to understand many aspects of scalar wave formation and propagation rather easily.
In classical electrodynamics of Maxwell the spherical antenna cannot radiate, only less or more elongated dipole rod can. But Nicola Tesla, Eric Dollard, Konstantin Meyl and another physicists demonstrated repeatedly, that the spherical antenna or capacitor (also bifilar and caduceus coil forming such a capacitors internally) can also exchange charge at distance during brief pulses and that these pulses form a compression waves of vacuum, which propagate in superluminal speed. I.e. not with normal sheer waves of light which can be polarized - but via scalar waves.
Therefore if we introduce a high voltage pulse into some conductive device, then it generates a compression wave around itself radiated from every piece of its surface into outside like the glowing cathode of neon tube: a radiant energy! Even single wire is able to mediate energy at distance after than, as Nelson Rocha also demonstrates in his videos. Other than that, the scalar waves are doing everything in opposite way, than the normal light waves, being orthogonal to them within hidden extradimensions of vacuum. They actually don't manifest itself like normal waves, but like less or more indeterministic noise or streamers of fluctuations and they don't undergo polarization, refraction and diffraction.
The normal and scalar EM waves usually come together, every photon is a tiny piece Maxwell wave stuffed with scalar component like soliton. If this component wouldn't be present there, then the photons would be indistinguishable from normal Maxwell waves, which cannot be counted. In general, the scalar waves are not formed (only) when the electric field alternates - they're formed during electric pulses and spikes instead, when the electric field changes its intensity instead of just polarity. In harmonically undulating circuits the scalar wave generation remains suppressed instead and it evades attention. The scalar waves don't radiate and spread in spherical envelope, but they form a nondispersive beams (warp field), which remember the shape of their radiator and which exhibit a mechanical effects and sensations at distance. In many situation, especially under higher energies they propagate through vacuum rather like the very-lightweight particles: magnetic turbulence and vortex rings of vacuum. The neutrinos are collapsed solitons of these waves in similar way, like the photons are solitons of normal EM waves. The analogy with Falaco and Russel solitons at the water surface comes on mind here.
The scalar waves are not absorbed with metals with freely movable electrons, so that they cannot be shielded with Faraday cage and this property can be used for their effective separation from normal EM wave, because - as follows from above examples - the scalar waves always follow normal EM wave generation and vice-versa. You therefore cannot generate a scalar waves in their pure form with normal oscillating circuit, as these waves will be always contaminated with normal EM waves. Instead of it the scalar waves are absorbed and radiated with materials, in which electrons cannot move freely, but their motion remains constrained in one or two dimensions: superconductors and topological insulators, like the graphene (but not graphite). Also the common ferromagnets can shield and radiate scalar waves, once they're arranged in monopole arrangement, of ferrites can radiate them during fast changes of their saturation. This is IMO the primary source of scalar waves in Nelson Rocha circuit.
The scalar wave physics looks counterintuitive only when we have no deeper mechanical models of vacuum on mind. The simplified Maxwell model of vacuum cannot describe / predict them, but once we imagine the vacuum like any other elastic continuum, then they can be actually understood quite easily. Whole the quantum mechanics would be unthinkable without these density waves at all, because the scalar component of field is the source of quantum fluctuations and uncertainty. Therefore the physicists are already dealing with scalar waves a long time before they admitted their existence - they just named them differently: quantum fluctuations or virtual particles of vacuum, CMB noise, ZPE field, Casimir field, warp field, evanescent waves, N-rays, axions, dark matter particles and another similar closely related stuffs.
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