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Title: How to replicate Silicon-Graphite Power Cell
Post by: alpersddk on April 24, 2017, 03:28:21 PM
What you guys think about it? How to replicate? Theories? Thanks..
Title: Re: How to replicate Silicon-Graphite Power Cell
Post by: Zephir on April 24, 2017, 07:24:08 PM
My theory of it is here (http://overunity.com/17239/extraction-an-energy-from-thermal-fluctuations/) and more info about graphite based thermoelectric batteries can find here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/4u4ljs/graphite_based_thermoelectric_generators/). With respect to replication this intriguing video (https://youtu.be/veXVkWOp2q0?t=448) of famous Russian inventor Victor Petrik may be of particular interest here: he creates a thermoelectric battery just from scratch in few minutes before eyes of surprised visitors. This indicates that this effect may not be actually difficult to replicate even without using of expensive silicone wafers. The silicone may be actually suboptimal after all - even the inventor of these cells recently switched to a silicon-carbide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghQZ1Wtj9hc). Victor Petrik uses just a piece of molybden sheet or nickel foil, I think. The usage of silicon-carbide or high-gap width materials in general in combination of low-gap width graphene can have certain meaning in the theory of its working.

In general I'd recommend to polarize the graphene layer with using of external voltage or with precharged electret (as McCarthy from Steorn did use), because I think that this effect actually runs on the voltage gradient formed artificially or in contact of graphene with another materials and it shares some similarity with so-called captret (http://jnaudin.free.fr/captret/index.htm). In essence, the graphite layer works as a myriad of tiny charged capacitors in serii i.e. nano-captrets . The narrow space between graphite layers just enables to decrease working voltage with compare to captret and to increase the current.
Title: Re: How to replicate Silicon-Graphite Power Cell
Post by: lancaIV on April 25, 2017, 05:19:13 AM
from 2013: silicon-carbon https://www.seeker.com/first-silicon-power-cell-could-trash-batteries-1767977611.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1 (https://www.seeker.com/first-silicon-power-cell-could-trash-batteries-1767977611.html#mkcpgn=rssnws1)

Pint and his colleagues decided they wanted to make silicon work. So they coated a piece of it in carbon to protect it from reacting with other chemicals and then heated it in a furnace to seal the coating. That's when an unexpected development occurred: the coated carbon turned into a nanometer-thick layer of graphene. Just that thin layer of graphene boosted the amount of energy the capacitor could store by a factor of 100.               
Title: Re: How to replicate Silicon-Graphite Power Cell
Post by: alpersddk on June 18, 2017, 03:39:29 AM
Quote from: Zephir on April 24, 2017, 07:24:08 PM
My theory of it is here (http://overunity.com/17239/extraction-an-energy-from-thermal-fluctuations/) and more info about graphite based thermoelectric batteries can find here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Physics_AWT/comments/4u4ljs/graphite_based_thermoelectric_generators/). With respect to replication this intriguing video (https://youtu.be/veXVkWOp2q0?t=448) of famous Russian inventor Victor Petrik may be of particular interest here: he creates a thermoelectric battery just from scratch in few minutes before eyes of surprised visitors. This indicates that this effect may not be actually difficult to replicate even without using of expensive silicone wafers. The silicone may be actually suboptimal after all - even the inventor of these cells recently switched to a silicon-carbide (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghQZ1Wtj9hc). Victor Petrik uses just a piece of molybden sheet or nickel foil, I think. The usage of silicon-carbide or high-gap width materials in general in combination of low-gap width graphene can have certain meaning in the theory of its working.

In general I'd recommend to polarize the graphene layer with using of external voltage or with precharged electret (as McCarthy from Steorn did use), because I think that this effect actually runs on the voltage gradient formed artificially or in contact of graphene with another materials and it shares some similarity with so-called captret (http://jnaudin.free.fr/captret/index.htm). In essence, the graphite layer works as a myriad of tiny charged capacitors in serii i.e. nano-captrets . The narrow space between graphite layers just enables to decrease working voltage with compare to captret and to increase the current.
Hi again Zephir,
Please look up this site.His work is interesting and looks like same to "pmmg4hybrid's cells(at least two of them does the same thing).Also i have some equipment for experimenting.I think we can talk more detailed about it.Your theories interesting,glad to see if you can help me about construction of a prototype power cell.We will do it!
Here is the site of the italiano guy;https://ermyit.blogspot.com.tr/