The answer to the TPU was given yesterday, but it was quickly removed by BRUCE_TPU because he has issues with his EGO.
BRUCE_TPU is a fraud and attention Wh
Who would have thought, that when the answers, were finally published, they would be removed from the board by some guy that is only looking for some attention high.
Well Bruce here it is again.
I knew you was going to remove it so i made a screenshot. ( see how predictable you are)
You can not stop me.
Please people realize that you are wasting your time with BRUCE_TPU he doesn't have a clue about what makes the TPU tick.
He is just a wannabe Steven Mark that is posting useless crap that is not related to the TPU at all just so he can get some attention high from you guy's.
Here is that drawing again i can assure you that it is valid.
2018 will be the year of free energy.
Not for BRUCE_TPU because for him it's just gonna be another year down the drain.
And karma will get him hard since he deleted the one schematic, that is going to save our planet.
The one, and only correct schematic that was posted to this board in well over 10 Years !
Well done Bruce you can be proud of yourself putting your selfish ego twat attention high above the coming global free energy event.
Follow the field lines in the diagram.
I will be back.
T.
We know that the construction diagram is valid because this was pointed out in an Email, send by Steven Mark to Lindsay Mannix back in 2006.
I guess we all have seen the construction diagram that was posted by user TAO back in the days.
I will attach it to this post for those that missed it.
Steven Mark actually pointed out that there was something wrong with TAO's design.
Here is the post from Lindsay Mannix that shows this:
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Sent to: tao on: June 28, 2006, 04:04:44 AM
Tao,By the way..
When Steven said that you have the secret he said in
another mail among other things that you have the collector and contol
winding relationship the wrong way...
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This was posted back in 2006 and the design was modified last year.
The result can be seen in my previous post, it resembles a loudspeaker, without permanent magnets but with a triple voice coil.
This thing can actually be driven like a loudspeaker, and will definitely vibrate or as we call it today 'sing'.
I am not here to go into endless discussion with anybody.
The only thing that i will do is publish data.
And everyone is free to decide how and if they are going to use it.
If you can not see the logic in my two posts i have just published, including the correction pointed out by the inventor,
Then this is probably not for you.
But if you do see the logic, and you have the ah ha moment, know that it looks simple because it is simple.
Can it be that simple? yes it can be that simple.
T.
Calm down.
He did that on purpose.
It's not fair to just give you the answer like that.
And I'm not going to post it again.
He obviously wants you guys to learn and understand this
Through your own path.
Not be spoon fed information you can then refute.
He will prove everything he is saying, in his own time frame.
This probably depends on how quickly his students are able to learn.
Some people take longer than others.
If you want to figure this out, start from the beginning
Follow his instructions
And skip over other people's nonsense (including mine because I use different descriptions)
He tells you everything you need to know.
Ah the first troll has arrived.
You will be added to the ignore list.
Hello turbo,
why not become a member at ramsets webseite and post everthing you have there ?
Giantkiller is a member who did extensive research on this. He would be glad to discuss this.
Mike
I have lost track of what happens where so this is the first place that comes to mind.
I do not know other places.
Also i am sure that Giantkiller will see the light from these two posts i made there as will many others.
Mike
That Is Peter's [peterae] site "over unity research"
I just Mop the floors .....
I will bring these contributions from Turbo to all TPU eyes possible {GK etc etc]
and this is as good a place as any IMO
respectfully
Chet
PS
also I will look for Lindsay's contact and send an invite too
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Hey turbo.
Questions. These 3 individual coils. Are they loose from each other? Or are they just 3 individual layered coils? Not sure I understand that we can hear sounds from them if they are solid with one another. Which is the receiver coil, control coil, etc. Hope thats not too much to ask.
Mags
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report done by Dr.ROLAND SCHINZINGER who was present at one of SM'S video demos.
"After the test the inventor cut the toroidally shaped device into segments (though not the controller box located at the center of the device).
These samples consisted of an array of circumferentially arranged coils and wires grouped around a core made of a cork like substance."
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Even without cork fixed coils will vibrate think of the humm of a classic low frequency transformer.
It resembles a loudspeaker except that the permanent magnet is replaced by two other coils, if you feed it a steady DC current and inject an audio signal, it will sing for you.
If it's frequency is low enough it will dance for you.
Bwahahaha bwahahaha bwahahaha bwahahaha
Marco, as always all smoke and mirrors and an ego to fill a swimming pool.
I see NO circuit, I see NO generating of power, I see only pretty pictures.
Put up something substantive or you have NO IDEA AND NOTHING but PRETTY art work!
Truth hurts... SORRY!
Cheers,
Bruce
Ps... I'm ACTUALLY generating current, and showed HOW to get started, NOT pretty pictures... Bwahahaha
Lay aside pride and TRY IT PLEASE!
There are some 'True' colors that are just too ugly for the crayon box.
This is definitely worth a bowl of popcorn
We have moved to a different location.
This thread is obsolete.
Thanks.
Where?
Its a shame. The speaker thing got me interested. But, the speakers magnet with the top plate and the bottom pole piece, the field in the gap is N to S crossing the coil perpendicular. In the 3 coil example it would seem it is not the same. But is there something to it none the less? If I had to guess the 2econd coil might be the collector coil. Not all up on the TPU to understand otherwise yet as to what I should be seeing. But it looks interesting to try, Maybe input to coil 1 and 3 and 2 is the output. Would we see some strange effect? Its not a typical winding if 2 is the collector, pickup coil, whichever. But then we have the term control coil. So Im at a loss,
Mags
If we assume he had an inkling as to the true magnetic portion of the field
We also have to assume that by his speaker analogy
He meant in the cross-sectional vector
Not up and down like an actual speaker.
A pancake coil acts more like a solenoid or linear inductor
It generates a linear-oriented magnetic field.
A distinct north and south magnetic pole can be found
Above and below the coil. So a south facing magnet placed under it
Causes a repulsion during the first half of the wave
And an attraction during the second.
And by this manner, converts electricity into physical vibration
Producing sound, amplified by the paper cone.
In a toroid, or a coiled toroid: the field is both radial
And circumferential.
Circumferential internally, and through the core.
radially externally, around the wire, following the signal.
It is this second part that causes repulsion and attraction
Between the 3 coils.
This results in a horizontal physical vibration.
Which also produces sound. (audible or supersonic)
We could turn this into a speaker, place this on a box
Of approx 1/4 wavelength
Or 1/4 of a lower octave wavelength
With one open end, to act as an amplifier
Like how they amplify a tuning fork.
That being said:
There is a vertical fluctuation of the magnetic field in SM's device.
This is a result of repulsion between the turns of the parallel coil.
It is very tiny, but present.
They expand and contract, slightly out of phase
with the signal.
I suppose in some theoretical world we possess an electronics
adhesive (short of high-temp cured ceramic) that can hold them.
This would eliminate the losses associated with the effect.
But since the source is renewable, it's trivial.
The audible tone and physically perceptible vibration are
entirely caused by the horizontal vibrations. Not the
'transmission line' expansion of the parallel coil.
Ok. Just winging it, here is the 3 coils layered with cork as Turbo suggested. 70 turns each of Radioshack green rolls of magnet wire I had laying around. I believe it is 26awg.
Didnt know how far a roll will go, and figuring in the additional length as each layer diameter increases, I stopped at 70 turns where a full roll came close to 90 on the first wind. So made the adjustment then.
Will put terminals on tomorrow. As the inner winding is sandwiched in cork, I put an outer layer of cork after the 3rd winding.
Mags
So far it works as a 2/1 transformer using the 2 outer layers in series and the middle coil as an open output. Will see if things change if I load the middle coil.
Mags
Hello ALL,
Power does not "magically" appear because of how a coil is wound or even with what frequencies it is pulsed.
To make power you must be "intentional". First you must identify a form of additional means for gain outside of the norm.
I have told these guys it is ELECTRONS OFF OF THE WIRE.
You must figure out HOW to get the electrons off of the wire. I have also told them HOW and WHY this is done. I actually used "Math" to figure it out and then proved it out long ago in the lab.
You must figure out HOW to move the electrons. Find out WHAT they are attracted to and they will move for you, at a rapid rate. I told how to do this.
You must figure out HOW to collect MORE electrons to make a BIGGER magnet. Bigger magnet equals more EMF generated. I have NOT told this.
You must lastly figure out HOW to use ALL OF THAT to generate EDDY CURRENTS that will give you your greater output. This part is a "work in progress".
Pulsing coils is a dead end without having done the leg work above. That is, for anyone serious about this stuff. Otherwise, it's just fun to build coils, I know.
2+2 will always equal 4.
Cheers,
Bruce
Take the theoretical situation of two series-pancake coils
With a "solenoid" between them.
compare the EM field to a normal transformer
Keeping the impedance ratios of each equal.
How is the field different ?
Why is the field different ?
now test them both in the real world
How is the output different?
Why is the output different?
@Turbo
hahahahaha. SM has been grueling, always has been.
Let me post this diagram I made back in 2011. It pushes the toroid and speaker coil idea to the extreme.
"The answer to the TPU was given yesterday, but it was quickly removed by BRUCE_TPU because he has issues with his EGO."
Don't know why you are saying Bruce showed the TPU. None of that is consistent with all the other TPUs and SM surely did not develop more then one principle of OU operation so......... how does it link to the OTPU or FTPU? Cannot. Where can you see those three coils in the MTPU cutaway pie piece? Cannot.
The diagram f*&kbruce.png (not a nice name man) cannot work. It's impossible. So many winds with each turn having its share of cancellation potential will never work like shown. Those arrows showing something as being directional is just wishful thinking. Copper wire does not convey like that. The whole OU community is stuck at level 1 since 10 years now not one worthy principle has been developed and not one out of the box method has been widely tried and experimented for its variables.
Could say much more and push guys into new ways but it always seems to be difficult for OUers to think out of the box. It's as if we need permission from Professor Standard EE to leave the confines of mediocrity. Imagine the guys who worked for years and years on vacuum tubes if they stuck with their daily standards, there would be no tubes to show us that "coupling" is a nucleic proximity challenge that those guys succeeded to crack wide open. Special conductive materials, very particular topologies. Those masters of coupling are now on the endangered species list.
The guys working on ICs are working with coupling as well but atom to atom. Again ask one of those guys how the electron plays into it and you will get a zero sum answer. Imagine if a memory chip had electrons how would it be possible to turn sections on and off when the whole thing would be electron based. It's like trying to make a Popsicle while underwater.
wattsup
If I charge two Leyden jars to opposite polarity
I have a "net zero sum"
The gate is in between them, controlled by the voltage
This is no different.
A transistor, a diode, cpu
It's up to you how to charge it
With a semiconductor we insert an electron
which then goes through a path
In an electric system we insert many electrons
And we insert many (holes/positrons/lacks of electrons)
The semiconductor cut-off voltage of air is very high
and it is not nearly as consistent as a lab made doped silicone.
With modern electricity we flow one half of the current.
Because to use both, cancels each other out with an explosion
of energy.
All sorts of heat, rf, visible light, emf, sound, physical vibration
The P and the N
Or the N and the P
They attract each other like magnets
resinous/ vitreous
This is why we can use the same process to turn light, heat, rf
Back into electricity
to have an electron missing (positron)
is just as powerful as having an extra electron
have something that's missing way too many electrons
and create a situation that feeds it.
We do this when we make batteries
it's all the same stuff
rub a balloon of your head
make the air have less electrons than a coil
Or a coil have less electrons than the air you just filled
Got some insight that may have merit with the 3 coils I made that Turbo described. Will be trying it this weekend.
Mags
Wrong! Silly pretenders to the throne, you are unworthy. Exept Bruce, he is a man of god, a wise man.
SM was creating mass nodes by using harmonics, wich is the only way to get mass nodes actually. Its basically cheating the conductor and putting more density there than you could have in the beginning of all the mass rendez-vous point, the action-zone is what I like to call it now.
For a given voltage, when dealing with non homogenous charge distribution impulse signals ( it can be AC) vs transmission line lenght, only harmonics creates mass nodes.
I'm not talking lumped circuits. Thats all same charge distribution.
Heres an analogy, radars use a soliton wave to shape a pulse, well SM uses a train of harmonics to create a mass node with the Standing wave.
And timed deflectors, to collector transfer. The charge is stripped away (exploded) just like carbide vs metal, buts its a double side type of thing.
But all this theory is testable in non-toroid form.
Examine, the sun.
Quote from: Toolofcortex on February 21, 2020, 08:20:44 AM
Wrong! Silly pretenders to the throne, you are unworthy. Exept Bruce, he is a man of god, a wise man.
SM was creating mass nodes by using harmonics, wich is the only way to get mass nodes actually. Its basically cheating the conductor and putting more density there than you could have in the beginning of all the mass rendez-vous point, the action-zone is what I like to call it now.
For a given voltage, when dealing with non homogenous charge distribution impulse signals ( it can be AC) vs transmission line lenght, only harmonics creates mass nodes.
I'm not talking lumped circuits. Thats all same charge distribution.
Heres an analogy, radars use a soliton wave to shape a pulse, well SM uses a train of harmonics to create a mass node with the Standing wave.
And timed deflectors, to collector transfer. The charge is stripped away (exploded) just like carbide vs metal, buts its a double side type of thing.
But all this theory is testable in non-toroid form.
Examine, the sun.
I like what you say, having seen interesting things on the scope with multiple harmonics many years ago when tuning a transformer circuit of sorts with a variable resistor. At this point, I'm more partial to the idea of heterodyning frequencies to produce a standing wave. I wonder if we're in the same ball park.
Do you see a zener diode (and avalanche breakdown) having any role to play in the TPU-type setups?
Bob
Not heterodyning.
I said same voltage, not same source. Not heterodyning.
Consider the power present, consider the incoming mass, from another stream, merging.
Consider 3 sources, you can even consider them isolated by diodes.
Its a bit confusing in the beginning, multi-source systems. Buts its really not.
Grab a Sim, you'll see what I mean. There is an area that can be pinched magnetically, this area is double direction and high density, this is the goal.
In this area there must be accelerating and strong vector, for boundary crossing.
This is Kirchoff rules, how do you maximize density with the same voltage? I just told you... The harmonics hack with SW.
Play with the harmonics of a non homegenous wave (compared to lenght of Transmisssion line).
You can match the nodes, have varying intensities along the apparent non wave with non-intensities.
I believe that once the initial "cut intensity" is done, then the mass simply flows.
The bucking field must be intense and accelerating, and density as high as we can get, or perhaps as efficiently as we can get.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9787/653cd51d2ae8adaa43a907fcb66d37871f11.pdf
https://www.google.com/search?q=Alfv%C3%A9n%E2%80%99s+Heliospheric+Circuit&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ALeKk02qwpdmri-g7XgQuUZH3i7biCgLgA:1582144974807&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2g9Opvd7nAhVBOs0KHWP7COsQ_AUICigB&biw=1164&bih=866&dpr=1.1#imgrc=ns_xOibFhmTOVM
The sun blurps out particles in pulses.
It, unlike our electrical circuits, can offer itself much relaxed time scales and much more mass. And much greater magnetic fields.
So we, must be extremely creative in our methods to even attempt to replicate self powering generating mechanics of this celestial body.
Be jealous of the sun...
But certainly, to use positive energy against itself is one ofthe primary foundations.
https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/83317-electromagnetic-solar-systems/
Quote from: Toolofcortex on February 22, 2020, 08:47:11 AM
Not heterodyning.
I said same voltage, not same source. Not heterodyning.
Consider the power present, consider the incoming mass, from another stream, merging.
Consider 3 sources, you can even consider them isolated by diodes.
Its a bit confusing in the beginning, multi-source systems. Buts its really not.
Grab a Sim, you'll see what I mean. There is an area that can be pinched magnetically, this area is double direction and high density, this is the goal.
In this area there must be accelerating and strong vector, for boundary crossing.
This is Kirchoff rules, how do you maximize density with the same voltage? I just told you... The harmonics hack with SW.
Play with the harmonics of a non homegenous wave (compared to lenght of Transmisssion line).
You can match the nodes, have varying intensities along the apparent non wave with non-intensities.
I believe that once the initial "cut intensity" is done, then the mass simply flows.
The bucking field must be intense and accelerating, and density as high as we can get, or perhaps as efficiently as we can get.
Thanks for the helpful clues. Makes sense to me.
I do believe this is doable in a small way in a relatively simple fashion.
I'll sit with this for a while, maybe post later if time and health permit.
B