1.
https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2792258A1/fr (https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2792258A1/fr)
2.
equipped with
4x 500 Watt Catalan electric motors
https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html (https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html)
3.
+
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20160929&CC=JP&NR=2016174482A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20160929&CC=JP&NR=2016174482A&KC=A#)
4.
+
https://adgex.com/energyBRICK (https://adgex.com/energyBRICK)
25000 cycles a 1 KWh by 1KWh/100 Km electric consume let reach 25000 x 100 Km= 2500000 Km,
So 1000000 Km is a good number as efficiency target, including theory/ practise differences.
Street robo-cars, air robo-drones, sub-sea drones,......
Instead Catalan ( patent saved) there are several " open source" alternatives, same power double the torque.
System price estimation, making part f. e. https://pplware.sapo.pt/motores/renault-kwid-eletricos-baterias-baratos/ (https://pplware.sapo.pt/motores/renault-kwid-eletricos-baterias-baratos/) : total car endconsumer selling price 7500 Euros
Car conversion-kit : 1500 Euros + EnergyBrick
::) https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fmobilitaet%2F2019-05%2Fe-go-life-elektroauto-verkehrswende-deutschland-armin-laschet%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zeit.de%2Fmobilitaet%2F2019-05%2Fe-go-life-elektroauto-verkehrswende-deutschland-armin-laschet%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab) ;D
eKwid : 676 Kg 10,8 Euros/Kg
e. GO. : 1200 Kg. 16,6 Euros/Kg
I see you are still adding info....How to access 1500 Eu electric conversions Kit ??
Am I reading this correctly ...a Renault Kwid ...Gas 3500.00 eu electric 7500.00 ?? [in India
thx
//Chet
By serial production and fob factory buy :
the Porquer-transmission 375 Euros
4 x e-motors a 500 W : max. 400 Euros ( reference : Schiller motor 3000 RPM, 1 KW/1 Kg)
Saburo-power amplifier : 2 KW nominal max. 375 Euros ( reference : Campos& Cardoso)
+ development (p)reserve
Peak/average Costs/Price difference ( by same object)
Exclusive/Standart 100/30 no physical difference
Individual/group. 100/50. no physical difference
Ready to use/ Kit. 100/50. no physical difference
The consumer can pay 100 financial units for the wished 1 object- unit or 100 x 0,3 x 0,5 x 0,5 = 7,5 financial units as object-price in kit-form and buying in group.
1500 Euros / 0,075 ~ exclusive " high sophisticated price propaganda level" = 20000 Euros
Why we do not see so much ic-engine equipped cars to e-car-conversion :
in Germany this administrative act( licence, aval, "right") costs 15000 Euros, in Poland 1500 Euros.
This are extra-costs, not included in the conversion-kit. !
eKwid : international ( India included) price 7300 Euros ( before local tax) ,so cheaper than an " administrative act " in Germany.
Can you provide a link for "1500.00 conversion Kit" in Poland ?or does it have to be ordered by the part from separate factories ?
seems with the apocalyptic world burning up pandemic extinctions and drowning from melting ice that "administrative costs"should not be hindering solutions for the planet .....or the common man [and woman] .
LANCAIV THANKS FOR SHARING. WHEN I SEE THIS SUPER INVENTION AND I SAY WHY DID I NOT
THINK OF THAT. THE GODLY BRAIN, SIMPLE YET SOPHISTICATED .
CATALAN SUPER EFFICIENT MOTOR.
Is it me or does this smell like bullshit? Most brushless DC motors are already 90+% efficient. What am I missing here besides some nice illustration that tries to convince me otherwise?
broli, numerical you are right, efficiencies about 98% are reached !
But : compare torque/Watt DC or torque/VeffAeff Hzeff AC
Catalan and/or Eldrige concept based by 90%+ from 100% magnetic force conversion
https://www.google.com/search?q=geminielectricmotor+answer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=geminielectricmotor+answer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
Conventional electric motors and generators : 90%+ x conceptual 1/2 magnet field force conversion
Optimizing existent electric devices :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fred+miekka&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fred+miekka&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
"A method of increasing power ...... completely utilizing the magnetic field....... "
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20020425&CC=US&NR=2002047346A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20020425&CC=US&NR=2002047346A1&KC=A1#)
[0020] "... torque is twice , magnets utilized 50% instead as original only 25% ,efficiency 75%( original : 73%)
[0017] " .. during normal running conditions,only 13,7% of the capability of the permanent magnets are utilized. "
[0016] the original motor producer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ametek (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ametek) and the patent is from the end 90' NEMA-standart
Here are two physical improvement possibilities to reach : power density KW/Kg device and torque density/Kg.
Actually we know about commercial electric devices with 10 KW continuous/Kg with optimizing forecast :up to 40 KW continuous/Kg by superconductor use, probably room ambiental temperature.( bimetallic coil/foil)
Quote from: ramset on May 13, 2019, 09:38:58 AM
Can you provide a link for "1500.00 conversion Kit" in Poland ?or does it have to be ordered by the part from separate factories ?
seems with the apocalyptic world burning up pandemic extinctions and drowning from melting ice that "administrative costs"should not be hindering solutions for the planet .....or the common man [and woman] .
It has to become organized !
About climate change we see and hear many news in the last thirty years from all over the world.
But is the consumer really concerned ?Car horsepower/KW/Nm during the decades growth up : not down ! Consume,too ! Emission, too !
The " 1000000 Km with 1 KWh-battery" is only technical "ultima ratio", showing physical possibilities.
Not market entry ! No really need !
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+girl+who+silenced+the+world+for+5+minutes+youtube&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
What is her daily consume fingerprint 2019 ?
Lanca//you have been a champion of smaller more efficient footprints for a long time.
Regardless of climate change scenarios we should strive towards a more responsible management of resources and waste management.[planet friendly ].
Chet
Ps would you mind if we talked a bit more about this elec car conversion "kit" "how to get there from here"
also I could try to contact this fellow with the new motor design and see if he has advanced towards production Or ??...also what power calcs/Data for the claim ?
The Catalan Halbach array motor
coupled with the " coaxial inversion generator" from Winpro/Akio Hara
https://www.google.com/search?q=akio+hara+winpro&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=akio+hara+winpro&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=EP&NR=2383870A4&KC=A4&FT=D&ND=&date=20170412&DB=&locale=# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=EP&NR=2383870A4&KC=A4&FT=D&ND=&date=20170412&DB=&locale=#)
[ 0050 ] claims a good = 2x fold conversion efficiency
could be a start !
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2013038069A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20130214&DB=&locale=# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2013038069A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20130214&DB=&locale=#)
[ 0061 ] Winpro generator is scaleable: beginning with " dynamo for bicycle "
Bringing Catalan and Hara together and as probably third party : https://www.inmotive.com/ (https://www.inmotive.com/)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj1a8rdX6DU (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj1a8rdX6DU)
4:10 glued magnets array
https://patents.google.com/patent/US8264314 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8264314)
Nice to get BMW i3 (841 US$/125 KW), Chevrolet Bolt (836 US$/150 KW) ,Tesla Motors(754 US$/192 KW) electric engine prices for per KW comparison. !
But are more/less Roy Kessingers preview "5 US$/HP" ten years before. !
The Akio Hara generator :
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2012029168&recNum=172&docAn=JP2010065107&queryString=(FP/DISC-1)%20&maxRec=7399 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2012029168&recNum=172&docAn=JP2010065107&queryString=(FP/DISC-1)%20&maxRec=7399)
Are the magnets soon glued like by the Tesla Motors electric engine or will they become it ?!
Hara his engine concept similar :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20131028&CC=PT&NR=106273A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20131028&CC=PT&NR=106273A&KC=A#)
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=PT&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=106273&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ptTRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=PT&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=106273&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=ptTRGLANG=en)
" ... and thus multiply the output of electricity. ...... "
" Peak or average output " or " peak and average output" multiplying !?
Output multiplying we see here by " double windings"- concept from Victor Arestov :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie)
Hara or PT + double windings( capacitiv?) : ?
Hey Chet, whats' about the " 33% output improvement by generator coil coating " !? ;)
Who wants the quasi- perfect state : generator couple with
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20060801&CC=TW&NR=200627764A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20060801&CC=TW&NR=200627764A&KC=A#)
Multi- Motors on one shaft or Multi-Generators one one shaft
What we can remark by the BMW/Chevrolet/Tesla Motors electric engines :
2019 price range : 15 US$/ Kg and 5 US$/ KW for electric Motor/ generator
Average : 2 KW/Kg ( average RPM?)
Next average technical evolution step : 10 KW/ Kg ( 2030+ : 40 KW/Kg superconductive)
each step makes this concept more and more attractive and the KWh production cheaper
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19790215&CC=DE&NR=2733719A1&KC=A1#)
A full automated company, included virtual administration, shall bring down the genset prices to 25 US$/KW.
Companies in container-boxes,relocateable like drones. Telemetric Delegation.
Moore law integration :
Human-free industry,zero personal costs.No management costs.
From 1 US$cent/KWh to 0,1 US$cent/KWh ,0,9 US$cent difference is human operation costs,extinction by well organized processing.
In Saudi -Arabia their greatest oilfield the exploration costs for each barrel is the price target to reach :
free oil energy for 1 US$/ barrel=
100 US$cents/1600 KWh :< 0,1 US$cent/KWh
Only free sun radiation is cheaper.
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-may-soon-have-a-battery-that-can-last-a-million-miles/ (https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-may-soon-have-a-battery-that-can-last-a-million-miles/)
So 1609000 Kilometers by 4000 charge cycles and how many KWh- battery package ?
4000 charge cycles instead 1000 before are not bad :
10000 charge cycles are more attractive and 100 US$/KWh market price
http://energystoragereport.info/capacitor-sciences-thin-film-capacitor-technology/
25000 charge cycles predicted. https://adgex.ru/energyBRICK (https://adgex.ru/energyBRICK)
50000 cycles.superbattery/supercapacitor ? 54 US$/KWh. ?
https://www.google.com/search?q=biosolar+50000+cycles&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
200000 charge cycles anymore "mystery" :
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/research-news/battery-lasts-200000-cycles-2016-05/ (https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/research-news/battery-lasts-200000-cycles-2016-05/)
250000 charge cycles alu-graphene
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321850509_Ultrafast_all-climate_aluminum-graphene_battery_with_quarter-million_cycle_life (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321850509_Ultrafast_all-climate_aluminum-graphene_battery_with_quarter-million_cycle_life)
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Concept car :
https://cartype.com/pages/2491/reva_nxg__2005 (https://cartype.com/pages/2491/reva_nxg__2005)
18 KWh battery. 200 Km range
x 4000 charge cycles ~ 400000 Km
x 10000 charge cycles ~ 1000000 Km
x 25000 charge cycles ~ 2500000 Km
Instead 37 KW induction motor the Catalan Hallbach array motor
18 KWh battery. 600 Km range
With Catalan Hallbach array motor and 2 in-wheel Hara generators
18 KWh battery. range : ?
When 12 KWh/100 Km with 37 KW induction motor and Catalan 1/2 electricity consume and 3 KWh brake energy recuperation x 200% Akio Hara coaxial double generator motor efficiency :
(12/2) - (3x2) = long range
The challenge for the best battery-/capacitor technology :
both 2017 publicated :
U. S. : Stanford Uni, North Carolina State Uni
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321850509_Ultrafast_all-climate_aluminum-graphene_battery_with_quarter-million_cycle_life (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321850509_Ultrafast_all-climate_aluminum-graphene_battery_with_quarter-million_cycle_life)
China: Zhejiang Uni
https://aluminiuminsider.com/chinese-researchers-develop-aluminium-graphene-battery-charges-seconds/ (https://aluminiuminsider.com/chinese-researchers-develop-aluminium-graphene-battery-charges-seconds/)
From the article below the most important prediction :
".... that in 2028 the price for 1 KWh battery storage will cost only 10 USD. ......."
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carmart.ch%2Fumwelt%2Fpreise-fuer-batterien-von-elektroautos-fallen-massiv-in-10-jahren-90%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carmart.ch%2Fumwelt%2Fpreise-fuer-batterien-von-elektroautos-fallen-massiv-in-10-jahren-90%2F)
Question : the 2028 1 KWh battery "charge cycles"- average number. ?
Question 2: why 0,2 US$/KWh charge , do they only calculate with 10 US$/0,2 US$= 50 charge cycles ?
Question 3: what will become the price for the charger 2028 ?
2028 10 USD/KWh storage ,industrial b2b, compared :
2017,OEM lead-acid battery prices 25-40 USD /KWh storage
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/lead-acid-battery (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/lead-acid-battery)
https://peswiki.com/ (https://peswiki.com/)
https://pesn.com/news/2019/07/29/89 (https://pesn.com/news/2019/07/29/89)
https://www.ev-power.eu/en/By-Brand-Manufacturer/GWL-Power/Lithium-Titanate-Oxid-Battery-Cell-LTO-2-4V-40AH-Cyllindrical.html?listtype=search&searchparam=lithium%20titanate%20oxid (https://www.ev-power.eu/en/By-Brand-Manufacturer/GWL-Power/Lithium-Titanate-Oxid-Battery-Cell-LTO-2-4V-40AH-Cyllindrical.html?listtype=search&searchparam=lithium%20titanate%20oxid)
(2,8-1,5 V)nominal 2,3 V x 40 Ah x 30000 cycles( DOD% ?) : 63,25 US$ per battery ( 1,65 Kg shipping weight)
63,25 US$/ 2,3V x 40 Ah x 30000 charge cycles ~ 63,25 US$/2760 KVAh storage capacity ~
With 100% DoD 2,29 cents/KVAh
without transport costs /without capital tax/ without charger
only for market price/KVAh comparison fob factory
Older news/articles with "new",now-2019- older, lab development results :
https://peswiki.com/directory:batteries (https://peswiki.com/directory:batteries)
+ 5-10 years wait time ( consumer)/ organization ( inventor/producer)time for product market entree
to newest publication :
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2019/10/30/new-battery-could-charge-an-electric-car-in-10-minutes/
The search for the highest KWh/Kg, KW/Kg, ?00000 charge cycles CHEAP super-e-storage
Local production = less/no transport costs ; 3d printing : low human fabrication costs/ printing-on-demand
no rare materials / no toxic materials/100% recycleable
9 April 1993:
https://books.google.pt/books?id=QwjGCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA218&lpg=PA218&dq=stanford+200000+charge+cycles&source=bl&ots=AsiiUxn1YJ&sig=ACfU3U3K9o5oLTsdXf0V_tG4dwA34q-n8w&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0r-LN3enlAhVbQEEAHcE9DpcQ6AEwBnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=stanford%20200000%20charge%20cycles&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=QwjGCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA218&lpg=PA218&dq=stanford+200000+charge+cycles&source=bl&ots=AsiiUxn1YJ&sig=ACfU3U3K9o5oLTsdXf0V_tG4dwA34q-n8w&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0r-LN3enlAhVbQEEAHcE9DpcQ6AEwBnoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=stanford%20200000%20charge%20cycles&f=false)
GM Impact : given numbers by the above article
31,6 KWh energy storage and 415 Km vehicle range : 7,62 KWh/100 Km
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1). 102 KW electric Motor
here the storage/range ratio to average consume : 10 KWh/100 Km
With 1993-2019 electric motor improvements : 5 KWh/100 Km
Impact : brake energy recuperation and storage. ?
Other industrial car " experiment" for low-e driving : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo)
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html (https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html)
Brake recuperation energy 3 KWh from 12 KWh consume
The Impact with 5 KWh consume, 1993 7,6-10 KWh improved by 2019 electric motor technology, less brake recuperation energy ?
No cost "open source= ownerfree industry experience" recycling
102 KW electric motor : in the U. S. the maximal street legal velocity,on high-way 55 miles ~ 90 Km-h
In Germany many "Autobahn"- Km velocity limited ,Richtgeschwindigkeit/ max."orientation": 130 Km-h
driver average velocity : 56 Km-h
1 horse up to 88 Km-h velocity : 1 horse-power 745 W
E-car conversion but not with 102 but 1,5 KW electric motor ! ~ 2 h-p
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en)
The convrrted 1,5 KW motor car with brake energy recuperation. ?With 2019 electric motor technology ?
Net zero energy car. !
What will be the future electric drive :
https://1e9.community/t/selbstfahrende-autos-die-zeit-des-traeumens-ist-vorbei-jetzt-wird-s-kompliziert/2507?utm_source=pocket-newtab (https://1e9.community/t/selbstfahrende-autos-die-zeit-des-traeumens-ist-vorbei-jetzt-wird-s-kompliziert/2507?utm_source=pocket-newtab)
Not 102 and not 1,5 but 12 nominal electric KW equipped " autonomous car drive" !
Real world teste comparison :
CITY AND SUBURB(IA)S transport service :
M. A. N. CITY-OMNIBUS and MAGNET-MOTOR(Starnberg,AEG-company) flywheel study in the 80' :
http://rcswww.urz.tu-dresden.de/~tuuwi/sites/ss02_mobilitaet/ss02_mobilitaet_schwungrad.htm
Bus model : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Lion%27s_City.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Lion%27s_City.jpg)
with Diesel- engine equipped : 200 h-p drive need
with MAGNET MOTOR flywheel + diesel engine : 20 h-p sufficient
Electrification :
with MAGNET MOTOR flywheel and electric motor : nominal KW/ h-p ?
< 10 electric h-p !
Instead MM flywheel : capacitor bank !
7,5 electric KW drive divided by 40 passengers/seats : < 200 Watt per passenger
Other public transport service experiment results :
1,4 ton weight battery 1970 : power/weight improvement 2019/2024/2029
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAN_SL_200
http://www.hybrid-vehicle.org/hybrid-vehicle-history.html (http://www.hybrid-vehicle.org/hybrid-vehicle-history.html)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kri%C3%A9ger_Company_of_Electric_Vehicles (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kri%C3%A9ger_Company_of_Electric_Vehicles)
Electrolette : 2 x 3 horse-power front wheel electric motors ~ totally 4,5 KW
1700 pounds weight ~ 770 Kg
21 miles ~ 35 Km-h velocity peak
With regenerative electric brake
https://books.google.pt/books?id=sGWcdXo9BjIC&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=krieger+landaulet+motor&source=bl&ots=tDg6jMlFiI&sig=ACfU3U3akWxCuMurrvtfHM3ReyYvab8b1Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGqLyt4LPmAhVTAWMBHd8rD94Q6AEwCHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=krieger%20landaulet%20motor&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=sGWcdXo9BjIC&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=krieger+landaulet+motor&source=bl&ots=tDg6jMlFiI&sig=ACfU3U3akWxCuMurrvtfHM3ReyYvab8b1Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGqLyt4LPmAhVTAWMBHd8rD94Q6AEwCHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=krieger%20landaulet%20motor&f=false)
".... drive motor with a second set of parallel windings for regenerative braking. ...."
Over 100 years later
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en)
Gasoline combustion engine car weight ? without engine + engine serving equipment ?
the drive motor for combustion engine cars to electric city cars conversion :
1,5 KW 4000 RPM ( description : UP to 120 Km-h ! ? Hill down ::) )
IMPROVEMENT
+ parallel windings for regenerative braking !
For 50 Km-h peak cities and suburbs more power is over-capacity !
Second choice to electric city car conversion
https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2792258A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2792258A1/en)
IMPROVEMENT
with 4x electric motor with parallel windings for regenerative braking
As experiments platform for new city e-vehicle concepts - range/velocity/weight/passengers/safety- this e-vehicle can be used : http://www.evalbum.com/314 (http://www.evalbum.com/314)
New "air valve" technology provides specially shaped fins and luevers that allow wind to
pass in the forward direction, from wind from behind pushes the vehicle.
This combined with bifilar regenerative brakes, and regenerative motor deceleration,.......
A few solar panels.....
We might be getting close
To experiment with 1,5 KW electric drive is at first easier :
1,5 KW conventional electric alternate to
0,75 KW electric/1,5 KW magnetic force power Catalan Halbach magnet array motor
This 0,75 KW ~ 5 KW inrush power demand without "Inrush current limiter" and +- 2,25 KW inrush power with ICL
Inrush power ~ Pulse power
Now connect the electric motor with several known " base power amplifier "like
https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462)
The input energy now as "car close energetic cycle" by "ELECTRICITY FROM THE SUSPENSION"
https://www.interpatent.de/ (https://www.interpatent.de/)
0,75 KW Catalan e-drive consume per100 Km( with/-out " base power amplifier"-equipment )
- SUSPENSION ENERGY GAIN
----------------------------------------------------
-CATALAN e-car net consume per 100 Km. ?
+ drive independent battery-generator
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1#)
We are ready, not close !
For magnets array motors we have as modern alternative the concept "Ronbach array" :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130314&CC=US&NR=2013062983A1&KC=A1#)
About electric cars energetic consume and improvement possibilities
Reva NGX experimental. nominal 37 KW AC e-drive (~ 74 KW peak power)
Change to nominal 25/20/15/1O/5 KW AC e-drive : effect ?
0-50 Kmh : ? Seconds. ? 0-75 Kmh : ? Seconds. ? 0-100 Km-h : ? Seconds. ? ( 55 miles speed limit = 90 Km-h)
From 74 KW peak power and 37 KW nominal power the e-car consumed in average
12 KWh electric energy /100 Km
12 KWh e-drive consume - 3 KWh regenerative brake. = 9 KWh for 100 Km TESTED !
6 KWh Catalan e-drive - 3 KWh. = 3 KWh. for 100 Km. THESIS I !
6 KWH CATALAN e-drive - 4 KWh. Arestov double winding. = 2 KWh for 100 Km. THESIS II !
6 KWH CATALAN e-drive. - 5 KWh Arestov d.w./ coil coating. = 1 KWh for 100 Km. THESIS III !
1 KWH LESS SUSPENSION ENERGY GAIN = HYPERCAR AMORY LOVINS ( Rocky Mountains Institute)
https://rmi.org/insight/hypercars-faq/ (https://rmi.org/insight/hypercars-faq/)
With battery generator ~ " freedom car"-project US DOE
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomCAR_and_Vehicle_Technologies (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomCAR_and_Vehicle_Technologies)
Parallel non-profit= zero tax economy project" R&D = EUGENICS
In the End70' the Pierre Chambrin Renault VESTA experiment, the VW Polo experimental
3 down to 2 Liter/100 Km
1975 U. S. scientist Winfield Salisbury 2,25 Liter/100 Km Hybrid concept instead common 9 Liter/100 Km fossil fuel consume
In the 80' Greenpeace "Twingo" improvement
Manfred Sonntag Hybrid-kit development
Bringing down the industrial standart of licence-free / open-source= global intellectual property vehicles
to 1,5 Liter/100 Km consume in the 90' End-Millenium
Now 2019/2020 :
We are in an industrial open source 1 Liter/100 Km combustion engine car technical standart era
Optional : ( + synthetic fuels use) + ( exhaust CO2 filter) =
Kyoto -80% Green-House-Gases 1990-2050
1 Liter/ 100 Km divided with unimproved average 6 Liter/100 Km = - 83,33 %
1 Liter x factor CO2 0,5 for synfuels ( CO2 factor 0,125 for Arakelian syngas) = 0,5 / 6 = - 91,67%
With CO2 filter ~ clean air act,California and Federation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_(United_States (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Air_Act_(United_States))
average nominal consume 6 Liter/100 Km for european compact class cars
1 litre gasoil/Diesel-Oel equates 14 KWh molecular heat energy content
1 litre. gasoline/Benzin equates 10 KWh molecular heat energy content
The unimproved Reva NGX 12-3=9 KWh electric consume car equates 1975 Winfield Salisbury's Hybrid concept with modern 90% efficiency engine 2,25 x 0,4 ( old engine 40% peak efficiency) /0,9 ( 90% eff)= 1 Litre/100 Km
We are living in a bad educated society and bad informed( partly corruptive deformed)/informated parliament ( members)
Demo(n)craty/ cratia/cracy/crazy. !
With " doing nothing" ethical corruption ~ cor-rumpere: priority1990 Kyoto Contract begins. !
For what it's worth, I took a look at the Catalan motor
It's basically an electromagnetic version of a Hallbach array
I don't reasonably see any other design having a greater magnetic intensity
in the given volume of space.
Which makes it hands-down the most powerful, and consequently, most efficient
motor of its' size. (Whatever size you make it and compare to similar size motor)
The guy had something.
Question is, why was it overlooked or dismissed in our economy?
What is your problem, smOkey2 ?
By #19 you can remark that hybrid and regeneration concepts were overlooked more than 100 years. !
So let us discuss in the year 2119 about the society developments between 2019-2119 ::)
Based by capacitive windings, Dr. Pavel Imris, Csc his "baby", I let develop here in Portugal, in parallel with a contracted project with him in Germany , with the portuguese technician Jorge Ferreira the "capacitive windings motor"-conception.
The german project ended in a technical-financial fiasco for him,here the project was technical a success,national patent-office approved and grant awarded.
Who workes with frequencies knows about Hz/RPM relation,the motor workes in high RPMs range ( capacitive inrush-pulse power !)and in comparation to Catalans estimated 50% electric energy savings this electric motor over-performs the input need several times !
It is good to know that there are physical alternatives. !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FShare-Now-in-Nordamerika-gestoppt-article21467313.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FShare-Now-in-Nordamerika-gestoppt-article21467313.html)
Share-concepts and conditions : actually not acceptable. by the Metropole consumers !
But such shareservices can be the solution to introduce new low-e cars to the market,partial begining with used conventional combustion cars converted to 5/2,5/1KWh/100 Km low consume electric urban drive alternative. !
We do not need new product techologies cause all what we need is invented and public available !What we need is a low-e and low-cost " manufacturing technique" !
An INVENTION EXPO,paperformat concept digitizing to visible 3d c.a.d-format and c.n.c-ready to use and wordwide these information exportable. to local 3d production facilities !
Private owned profit comercial companies and
as " second "1€- jobs(and less) " market ,in Germany called : ZWEITER ARBEITSMARKT
public non profit institutions - like schools : learning by doing
for the later " profit first market"
WE HAVE A MARKET SPLITTING : 1. market class worker and 2.market class worker
In the METROPOLES 50% from the employees are in the "second market " way /entrance : A.I. rationalization
This is then the great share-service momentum beginning :
as future vision the over-filled share-taxis in the South-African Republic
What I meant Ian
Was there are no real world examples of this being used
Is there is a reason they 'set this down'
Some kind of problem with the tech perhaps?
Numerically, it seems "overtorqued"
This might not be a deal breaker, but until we test it
no one really knows.
http://www.austinev.org/ (http://www.austinev.org/)
http://www.evalbum.com/geo/Texas
You find there many "enthusiasts" which not only thought about "change" but also invested time and money in their vision as project and personal " UNIKAT". !
For others probably a help or motivation to converse their combustion engine car to electric. !
These canadian guys were in the search for the low-as-possible conversion costs. :
https://forkenswift.com/ (https://forkenswift.com/)
Related the Catalan electric motor and industrial success chance. :
it is seldom that an industrial leader buys concepts from outside,it is often to hear and read that individual inventors are in juridicial battles because fraud and robbery by great companies related him given commercial awarded claim object.
An inventor has not the money for (as example ) -by Court estimated 100 Mio. rights worth process-and related this worth a 10% process costs deposit. !
Only with a "process costs funds" this inventor gets the same " law power" against these " big player" !
FAIR JUSTICE. !?
The industry its internal step-by-step evolution process is relative slow, there are by technical change new investments needed, probably also worker educational instructions : study- like
A new factory spents today easily 1 billion US$ as investment. !Look for the Tesla Motor factory in Germany/Brandenburg investment high !
Related the VW AUTOEUROPA fabrication/ montage site in Palmela/Portugal the cluster ( car parts deliverer around the montage center building) for e-cars production is much less splitted and less deliver-companies needed !And less worker and production area !
The production technique Tesla Motors their actual technology conversion problem seems. !Monting cars by hands -Rolls Royce like- is nothing for the mass market. !
Slow production rate and too high work-personal costs per car. !
The introducing from new technologies with improved results is by my view only media-active successfull by open events/EXPOs with world-wide audience. : by race-battle ,eventually 24 hours-LeMans race long
In masses produce-able prototype against conventional "market leader product". !
Not by professional sports-driver but by "ordinary" car day-by-day user
Guinness-book-of-records jury presence
::)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet%3famp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet%3famp)
Quote from: sm0ky2 on December 19, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet%3famp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet%3famp)
+ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/kld-updates-electric-motor-for-21st-century-cars/ (https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/kld-updates-electric-motor-for-21st-century-cars/) 8)
power cell or energy cell load and charge technology
+ https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5#
2- battery-packs energy cycling gen-set
Quote from: ricardotore on December 26, 2019, 07:00:00 AM
How do you think how much this solar car will be cost?
What are you meaning with "solar car" ?
Let us do a research over the last decades about e-mobile trials :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHotzenblitz (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHotzenblitz)
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html (https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo)
KW/weight ?
and compare with the newest entry :
https://nexonev.tatamotors.com/ (https://nexonev.tatamotors.com/)
12,7 Euros per Kg TATA- electric SUV
( ratio : endconsumer 17800 Euros price divided by 1400 Kg material weight)
What shall be the performance from a " solar car" ?
1000 Km drive range ?
Acceleration values ?
0-50 Km-h : ? Sec 0-100 Km-h : ? Sec
Velocity max. : 80 km/h,100 Km/h,120 Km/h. ? Maximal street legal velocity (actually/in future) ?
129 hp equivalent TATA car motor,
37 KW Reva NGX
20 KW Loremo electric motor,
12 KW Hotzenblitz electric motor.
appropriate power or overestimated :
probably for 30 Km per hour velocity max. european Cities in future
1,5 KW electric engines
will be enough !
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE10011074A1/en)
( based by https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4031920A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4031920A1/en) )
kg car weight ? velocity max. ?
But the Lavenami is powered by a 1,5 KW electric motor :
http://www.evalbum.com/314 (http://www.evalbum.com/314)
Given weight and velocity max. ?
But we have some other e-vehicles as research platform and base for experiments :
From their theory
http://omni.mcn.org/electrilitem2.htm to idea-lite solution : http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/ (http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/)
https://rqriley.com/product/urba-electric/ (https://rqriley.com/product/urba-electric/)
https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/Hot-Selling-New-Energy-Electric-Car-60752815732.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.128.4ca54e19DtxJLT (https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/Hot-Selling-New-Energy-Electric-Car-60752815732.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.128.4ca54e19DtxJLT)
Mysterium 8) : 1000 W electric Motor and 4-5 KWh per 100 Km electricity consume ::)
electric motor efficiency. ? :o
Average 25 Km and average 1000 Wh consume per hour ~ 4 KWh/100 Km
Watt nominal/ Kg : 1000 W divided by 220 Kg vehicle weight (monomer battery weight 13-14 Kg)
https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/fashionable-New-EEC-approved-fastest-electric-60650375519.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.35.4ca54e19rwtAUf (https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/fashionable-New-EEC-approved-fastest-electric-60650375519.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.35.4ca54e19rwtAUfHere)
Here the weights : 390 Kg - 450 Kg included heavy battery-pack and and higher motor wattage,2000 and 2800 W
But compared to
http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/ (http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/) costs estimation : 10 US$/pound(453 Gr.) ~ 5000 US$
such electric vehicles from chinese production are for experiments cheaper and faster to get than DIY- constructions !
https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/1200-w-Niedriger-geschwindigkeit-elektrische-mini-60809529672.html?__detailProductImg=https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.Ct4DkCWBuNjy0Faq6xUlXXan.jpg_300x300xz.jpg
Such mobiles can be easy converted to "NegaWatt-City-Commuter" ,50 Km/h sufficient. !
Production costs fob( or for) China with nominal 2 KW : 3500 Euros
http://www.evalbum.com/314 (http://www.evalbum.com/314) with "NegaWatt-conversion kit" : total costs estimation < 2000 Euros
A so called " solar car":
https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/City-use-4-wheel-new-solar-60732955155.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.17.4ca54e19ZGZdw7 (https://m.german.alibaba.com/p-detail/City-use-4-wheel-new-solar-60732955155.html?spm=a2706.8168334.1998817009.17.4ca54e19ZGZdw7)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fefahrer.chip.de%2Fnews%2Ftesla-patentiert-langlebige-und-billige-batterien-1_101716
1 Million miles and more divided by ??? KWh- battery-set
https://battery-power.eu/cr3ativspeaker/jeff-dahn/
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=US251449154&tab=NATIONALBIBLIO
calculation : average 1 KWh electric per 100 Km range consume
available 2021 : Yinlong Lithium Titanate Oxide Battery ,300 US$/KWh capacity, 25 000 100% DoD charge cycles ,15,6 Kg/KWh weight
https://www.google.com/search?q=yinlong+lto&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=yinlong+lto&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4j0i22i30l5.6184j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=yinlong+lto&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=yinlong+lto&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4j0i22i30l5.6184j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
25 000 KWh available by 25 000 charge cycles / 1 KWh = 25 000 x 100 Km = 2 500 000 Km capacity by 15,6 Kg battery ,300 US$ priced
300 US$/ 2 500 000 Km = 0,012 US$cent/Km battery costs ,
soon 0,01 US$cent/Km
or 1 US$cent/100 Km ( only storage excluded the electricity)
with https://overunity.com/13955/oldie-but-goldie/msg559183/#new (https://overunity.com/13955/oldie-but-goldie/msg559183/#new) Saburo range extender :
10 000 000 Km per 1 KWh capacity,25 000 cc, battery
by this claim
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233 (https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/12/eaao7233)
100 000 000 Km per 1 KWh capacity,250 000 cc,battery
https://twitter.com/fermatslibrary/status/13123821560653 (https://twitter.com/fermatslibrary/status/1312382156065382400)
Kilo- = 1000 metres. /Mega- 1000 000 meters./Giga- 1 000 000 000 meters range "Batterie-Set"
100 000 000 Km = 100 000 000 000 metres
Tera-Metres-Battery-Factory
theoretically "permanent drive",permanent battery re-charge cycle
f.e. as autonomous intercontinental drone
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://geschaeftsbericht.post.ch/15/ar/de/jahresbericht/geschaeftsentwicklung/logistikmarkt/drohnen_fuer_die_paketzustellung.htm (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://geschaeftsbericht.post.ch/15/ar/de/jahresbericht/geschaeftsentwicklung/logistikmarkt/drohnen_fuer_die_paketzustellung.htm)
civil,military,guerilla,legal and criminal use we can expect ,ABC-weapon/drugs/migrants
https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup (https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup)
means by 8766 KWh delivery per year by 1 KWh/100 Km consume = 876 600 Km autonomous drive per year
( but cause this 1 KWh/100 Km is based by average 40 Km*h velocity = 8766 h x 40 Km = 350 640 Km per year maximal drive range !
the planetary year time is fixed with 8766 hours,modification physical not possible ::)
Compared - in average - the US car mileage : https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32880477/average-mileage-per-year/ (https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32880477/average-mileage-per-year/)
13,500 miles every year or 21,726 Km every year = 60 Km per day )
not bad for a claimed 40 US$/KWh production costs "nuclear battery" device and 10 years+ long-life
how much per KW output - only the thermionic converter costs- this inventor calculates ?
https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/ (https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/)
Invented heterodyne antenna thermo electric generator is very cheap and small and light and without any moving parts. Its energy efficiency is near 100%. Carnot limit is not relevant.
For example, a hybrid electric vehicle can use four times less fuels vs. ICE, so generating four times less exhausts,
and I have developed a technology for very mass and cheap extraction CO2 from the air.
classical car drive ,modified :
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_Dyna_Z (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_Dyna_Z) Up to 50 hp gasoline ic-engine motorized,up to 144 Km/h maximal velocity/speed
by 815 Kg car weight
this is https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1) e-drive level
Un moteur électrique de I ch à 6000 tours minute,soit I00 tours seconde,démultiplié par un rapport de I/50,possède une force de couple instantané,à 2 tours seconde à l'arbre, égale à la plage de couple instantané différentiel ou ponc-tuel d'un moteur de 50 ch.
50 ch = 50 chevals/horses = 50 hp
average consume 1 000 Watts ,let us assume by average 40 Km*h street legal speed/velocity (urban zone)
means 2,5 KWh/100 Km average consume by conventional 4x 500 Watt rated electric motors
means 1,0 KWh/100 Km average consume by modified 4x 500 Watt rated electric motors
without Saburo range extender
with Saburo,by claimed C.O.P. 5x performance,
means 0,2 KWh/100 Km average consume by modified 4x 500 Watt rated electric motor ( magnetic diode, double winding)
The charge time need for an 1 KWh battery ?
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/12/super-aluminum-graphene-battery-has-a-5-second-charging-time.html (https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/12/super-aluminum-graphene-battery-has-a-5-second-charging-time.html)
:o so long to wait ? 8)
for US average daily 60 Km range and up to 100 000 000 Km charge range
100 000 000 Km/ 60 Km = 1 666 666 days = 4563 years
But let us begin with the Lithium Titanate Oxid (Yinlong or Xalt or ... ) 25 000 + charge cycles /Saburo battery-set :
456,3 years free drive are not so bad,is it not ?
Beyond Lithium Natrium Titanate Oxid
And " Thanks God or A.I . ", the consumer will not have an alternative in our autonomous drive = human driver free future !
human driver exodus !
fact : from scientifical view the actual e-cars are 90-99% with battery capacity overestimated/overpowered !
x https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.handelsblatt.com/mobilitaet/elektromobilitaet/carsharing-desaster-warum-reines-e-carsharing-ohne-subventionen-chancenlos-ist/27392300.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.handelsblatt.com/mobilitaet/elektromobilitaet/carsharing-desaster-warum-reines-e-carsharing-ohne-subventionen-chancenlos-ist/27392300.html)
But statistically speaking, cars stand idle for a good 23 hours a day in the area.
Seen in this way, there are more than 48 million "parking spaces" in Germany (https://www-handelsblatt-com.translate.goog/themen/deutschland?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=ajax,elem,se) .
100 % "totes Fuhrpark Kapital"
x 1h/24 h use
= 5% ,95% Abbaupotential
x 10% down to real need 10% down to 1% from actual KWh battery pack
= 99 % less production or less costs
1 e-car battery capacity actually = 10 -100 e-cars capacity in future
90-99% less material (ab-)use per electric drive car
lithium/natrium/aluminium/graphene and other battery materials in use production capacity enough
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_Dyna_Z#/media/Datei:PanhardDynacabriolet.jpg (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_Dyna_Z#/media/Datei:PanhardDynacabriolet.jpg) this looks really similar Citroen DS 21/23
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_DS (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_DS)
with Lithium Titanate Oxid battery + Saburo each e-car transforms to an e-power plant
less than 1 US$cent/KWh 24/365 electricity generation
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.hybrid-autos.info/elektro-fahrzeuge/loremo/loremo-ev-2008.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.hybrid-autos.info/elektro-fahrzeuge/loremo/loremo-ev-2008.html)
6 KWh consume conventional e-drive per 100 Km (included brake energy recuperation ?),2008 standart
3 KWh consume modified e-drive per 100 Km,2021 standart
0,6 KWh modified e-drive + Saburo C.O.P. 5x per 100 Km,2021 standart
without "hype" the pure electric car selling worth between 5000 Euros (E.U. Renault-Dacia level) and 2500 Euros (Renault Kwid India level)
based by their final market price/Kg weight and Loremo 450/470 Kg Kg car weight
http://elweb.info/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=loremo (http://elweb.info/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=loremo)
less https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/elektromobilitaet/kaufen/foerderung-elektroautos/ (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/elektromobilitaet/kaufen/foerderung-elektroautos/)
a 24/365 4-wheeled LOREMO electric power plant with "electric car"-function for net 4000 Euros in Europe
a 500-1000 (KW output dependent) Euros 24/365 "Zero (grid) Energy building" electric source
Attention : related KILOWATTLABS charge cycles number "1.000.000 charge cycles" claim
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/supercapacitor-energy-storage-and-energy-server-from-kilowatt-labs/50/
https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/arvio-supercapacitor-battery-review/
the Kilowattlabs Sirius "Supercapacitor" to see as like it is : Lithium Titanata Oxide battery (array) !
So not ,like to read here , https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/supcaptechspec.gif
1.000.000 (1 Mio.) charge cycles but ,
like here calculated : https://www.cleanenergyreviews.info/blog/home-solar-battery-cost-guide : 10.000 charge cycles ! By 100% DoD !
Sincere
OCWL
https://overunity.com/18385/e-drive-platform/ (https://overunity.com/18385/e-drive-platform/) Paul-R reply #12
Excuse-moi,I am sometimes chaotic,information-overflowed ! ::) :P
From 1896 Kriegér Eletrolette https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kri%C3%A9ger_Company_of_Electric_Vehicles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kri%C3%A9ger_Company_of_Electric_Vehicles) (with later known KERS included )
to the modern Citi-Mobilette
step-by-step :
speed limit 25 Km/h max
and " power(peak) in hpp or KWp -to-weight in Kg"- ratio observation
1. http://www.duke-ev.org/prototype-evolution (http://www.duke-ev.org/prototype-evolution)
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5)
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_F-Cell_Roadster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_F-Cell_Roadster)
speed max. limit 40-45 km/h
and " power(peak) in hpp or KWp -to-weight in Kg"- ratio observation
1. http://www.evalbum.com/314 (http://www.evalbum.com/314) Lavenami
2. https://www.citroen.pt/ami (https://www.citroen.pt/ami) https://www.opel.de/fahrzeuge/rocks-e/uebersicht.html (https://www.opel.de/fahrzeuge/rocks-e/uebersicht.html)
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf31fQJVWOU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf31fQJVWOU)
Citycar speed max. limit over 50 Km/h
and " power(peak) in hpp or KWp -to-weight in Kg"- ratio observation
1. https://www.prismz.com/automite/ (https://www.prismz.com/automite/) to electric KW conversion
2. the most sold US-market e-"car" before Tesla Motors Inc. entry : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar)
this as fundament for the modern Nearly-/Net Zero-Energy car/etrike/quadricycle
100 Kg weight mobiles like
https://hopper-mobility.com/ (https://hopper-mobility.com/)
https://www.canyon.com/de-de/e-bikes/future-mobility-concept.html (https://www.canyon.com/de-de/e-bikes/future-mobility-concept.html)
Making part in the development progress : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomCAR_and_Vehicle_Technologies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreedomCAR_and_Vehicle_Technologies)
cheap electric drive (5 US$ KW,15 US$/Kg)and cheap inverter (< 12 US$/KW) , based by 55 KW drive
1981 : Mercedes-Benz https://www.planetcarsz.com/carros/1981-mercedes-benz-nafa-concept (https://www.planetcarsz.com/carros/1981-mercedes-benz-nafa-concept)
https://emercedesbenz.com/tag/short-distance-nafa/ (https://emercedesbenz.com/tag/short-distance-nafa/)
and Nicolas Hayek, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Hayek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Hayek)
at first in partnership-search with VW and FIAT, SMART car-concept ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
100 Kg "egg-mobility" http://electricandhybridcars.com/index.php/pages/PaulArzenselectricegg.html (http://electricandhybridcars.com/index.php/pages/PaulArzenselectricegg.html) with,actually 340 Wh/Kg ,prospected 1000 Wh/Kg LTO-battery
https://innolith.com/de/ (https://innolith.com/de/)
possible
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the mobile its body material :
https://theconversation.com/transparent-wood-is-coming-and-it-could-make-an-energy-efficient-alternative-to-glass-154981 (https://theconversation.com/transparent-wood-is-coming-and-it-could-make-an-energy-efficient-alternative-to-glass-154981)
and
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stronger-than-steel-able-to-stop-a-speeding-bullet-mdash-it-rsquo-s-super-wood/ (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stronger-than-steel-able-to-stop-a-speeding-bullet-mdash-it-rsquo-s-super-wood/)
https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/auto/fahrkultur/toyota-ex-ii-von-1969-das-e-ei-a-28c11442-9f7a-481d-9111-63a999c3c530?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de#fotostrecke-01bbaa69-3769-41fc-b227-32db7957e514 (https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/auto/fahrkultur/toyota-ex-ii-von-1969-das-e-ei-a-28c11442-9f7a-481d-9111-63a999c3c530?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de#fotostrecke-01bbaa69-3769-41fc-b227-32db7957e514)
Which travel kind is faster,an overview :
https://www-zukunft--mobilitaet-net.translate.goog/167997/analyse/tuer-zu-tuer-reisezeit-stadtverkehr-pkw-miv-oepnv-radverkehr-pedelec-gleichheit-subjektive-verzerrung/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
for short distances a 25 Km/h fast mobile ,bike-trike-quad-drone ,is unbeatable !
Projekt Negawatt-AUTO (NegaWatt by Amory Lovins,Hypercar https://rmi.org/insight/hypercars-faq/ (https://rmi.org/insight/hypercars-faq/) )
http://www.evalbum.com/314 (http://www.evalbum.com/314)
e-drive rated/nominal : 1,5 KW
12 Volt curb weight 99 Kg
power to weight ratio : assumption 1,5 KW /0,745 = 2 hpp/99 Kg =
0,02Top speed : 25 MPH (40 KPH)
compared
Citroen Ami
e-drive rated/nominal : 6 KW/8 hp
48 Voltcurb weight : 485 Kg
power to weight ratio 16.5 Hp/tonne or 8 hp/485 Kg =
0,0165Top speed : 45 Kph (limited , L7e quadricycle rules )
Now : https://overunity.com/18385/e-drive-platform/ (https://overunity.com/18385/e-drive-platform/) #9
Interestant the QS AC motor delivered data https://www.qsmotor.com/ (https://www.qsmotor.com/) :
48 V 24 Km-h, 60 V 30 Km-h and 72 V 36 Km-h average velocity
what would mean - linear calculated -
220 V 110 Km-h
Lavenami 1,5 KW DC 12 Volt to 1,5 KW AC 220 Volt modification
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=10011074&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=10011074&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
In the mosaic/image the e-drive technical numbers :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20001207&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20001207&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
The energy delivery source for the Lavenami conventional DC output battery to DC/AC inverter to AC motor ( inrush current calculation and inverter power configuration attention !)
This is at first "race track"-concept,not for street legal use,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5
Enthusiasts have established owners' clubs
and some have modified their vehicles substantially, adding bigger wheels, jet engines, and high-powered electric motors to propel their C5s at speeds of up to 150 miles per hour (240 km/h).
The R&D for the right weight (Elk-teste)/speed max. and consume per hour/ per 100 Km search and measurement ratio !
After Lavenami,the next "100 Kg weight Cititrike" tuning project :
The technical numbers https://hopper-mobility.com/ (https://hopper-mobility.com/) , claimed :
2 KWh/ 100 Km consume and 25 Km/h speed = 500 Wh consume per hour
finally : the tuning of https://www.canyon.com/de-de/e-bikes/future-mobility-concept.html (https://www.canyon.com/de-de/e-bikes/future-mobility-concept.html) to NetZero-Energy Cityquad
autonomous,external energy- and driver-free , Citymover
100 Kg Citymover for later commercial maximal 2500 Euros fob factory individual endconsumer price
quad-fleet-share,timely
When a Citroen Ami with 8000 Euros costs leases for 20 Euros per month
a 2500 Euros alternative leases for less !
When we look for VW Kaefer/Beetle - Fiat 500 - Citroen 2CV ic-engine numbers,the cars density per household ,the catalyser process energetic losts,the industrial claimed/practical experienced car consume per 100 Km ,we have to observe that in the last 50 years,
by less urban average traffic velocity
the traffic units consume increased by over 200 %,independent fron Rio-Kyoto-Paris climate conference
thermical engine consume between 60´/70`cars
cars with 6 lt. fuel consume/100 Km and 7:1 compression ratio
related "modern turbulent times" intelligence
cars with 6 lt. fuel consume/100 Km and 14:1 compression ratio
a near 100% "fuel + air" mix consume per 100 Km increase !
the sub-/urban metropoles "heat bell", 100% higher exhaust emission by 350 ° Celsius !
+ in the last decades over 150% room heating energy consume per capita increase
( sqm living area/capita 60´/70´ versus sqm/capita 2021 X in-door average temperature 60´/70´ and temperature 2021 )
Fujitsu : between from 0°C to 15° C heating = 100 heat units and 0°C to 20°C = 200 heat units is an one hundert percentage energetic increase,
5°Kelvin more = 100% more
this statement https://www.fenixgroup.cz/de (https://www.fenixgroup.cz/de) in their home project confirmed
energy/health/comfort/costs
Post-WW2 generation living comfort and "NewAge"-comfort behaviour
12-14° C in winter 18-21° C in winter
https://lookaftermybills.com/blog/average-room-temperature/ (https://lookaftermybills.com/blog/average-room-temperature/) https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-12606943 (https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-12606943)
consense : maximum space temperature 18° C,included dehumidification,
- 24°C+ – Cardiovascular risk of strokes and heart attacks
- 21-24°C – Increasing discomfort
- 18-21°C – Comfortable temperatures
- 16-18°C – Discomfort, small health risks
- 12-16°C – Risk of respiratory diseases
- 9-12°C – Risk of strokes, heart attacks
- <9°C – Risk of hypothermia
by law : 18-21 °C ( in German Federation ,estates dependent)
https://www-mieterbund-de.translate.goog/index.php?id=442&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
and personal body heating ( in summer cooling ) https://embrlabs.com/ (https://embrlabs.com/) https://spectrum.ieee.org/wristify-thermoelectric-bracelet-would-reduce-energy-consumption (https://spectrum.ieee.org/wristify-thermoelectric-bracelet-would-reduce-energy-consumption)
http://www.rexresearch.com/cuinanoagwire/cuinanoag.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/cuinanoagwire/cuinanoag.html)
Super-insulated clothing could eliminate need for indoor heating ( 12 Watt per hour consume
)
also as 4-seasons open-sky/cabriolet like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_F-Cell_Roadster electric wear
to see here : Daimler Benz reasearch paper/application (80 W per hour consume )
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910620&CC=DE&NR=4038167A1&KC=A1#
btw :
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/bank-of-america-predicts-crude-oil-will-skyrocket-43-to-120-a-barrel-by-next-summer/ (https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/bank-of-america-predicts-crude-oil-will-skyrocket-43-to-120-a-barrel-by-next-summer/)
1972 : the Clube of Rome REPORT
https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/wissenschaft/mensch/klimawandel-der-oelkonzern-total-wusste-seit-1971-von-der-globalen-erwaermung-a-b31a50ef-1d28-4774-a0a3-ca70756c0b70?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de (https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/wissenschaft/mensch/klimawandel-der-oelkonzern-total-wusste-seit-1971-von-der-globalen-erwaermung-a-b31a50ef-1d28-4774-a0a3-ca70756c0b70?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de)
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE4332378A1/en
and
Ricardo Azevedo water-fueled engine conversion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXkx7i7kOtM
https://de-euronews-com.translate.goog/2016/02/09/1-liter-500-kilometer-ein-motorrad-das-auch-mit-dreckwasser-faehrt?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
a water-fueled engine hibrid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo
and
a water-fueled engine hibrid
https://fr-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Renault_VESTA_2?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de
2021 with 1 Liter water per 1000 Km performance !?
Sincerely
OCWL
https://hopper-mobility.com/ (https://hopper-mobility.com/)
range extending :
a. with Innolith battery,actually R&D 340 Wh/Kg stage, from claimed 1000 Wh/Kg
https://www-polarstern--energie-de.translate.goog/magazin/artikel/nachhaltige-elektroauto-batterie/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de (https://www-polarstern--energie-de.translate.goog/magazin/artikel/nachhaltige-elektroauto-batterie/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de)
Super battery from Innolith.
Everyone wants the super battery. And the Swiss company Innolith claims to have really developed a particularly powerful battery. It manages 55,000 charging cycles, does not burn and is also free of exotic materials such as cobalt. In addition, there is an energy density of 1,000 Wh / kg - that is four times higher than anything currently on the market. This should work by switching to inorganic electrolytes. So far, only organic electrolytes have been used in batteries. These entail a higher risk of fire and lower performance. By using inorganic electrolytes, Innolith circumvents both and achieves a higher energy density. Sounds good - and when will this super battery be available? According to Innolith, it should be ready for mass production in three to five years (as of 2020).However, there is a lot of debate in the media as to whether this statement is reliable. Only practical tests will show whether the super battery will be the promised breakthrough.
55,000 charging cycles : %? DoD
b.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=aluminium&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=pedro+correia&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=aluminium&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=pedro+correia&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
for comparation of this claims
https://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/evs/aluminium-air-a-better-power-source-for-evs/40578.article (https://www.automotivemanufacturingsolutions.com/evs/aluminium-air-a-better-power-source-for-evs/40578.article)
To put that in context, a Tesla Model S has an estimated range, from a single charge, of 370 miles. According to Jackson, replacing a standard Tesla Li-ion power source with an Al-air device of the same weight would produce a range of 2,700 miles.
Furthermore, the power source is claimed to be recyclable, replaceable, environmentally friendly and ethically sourced. Looking at the financial aspect, it works out at 1/7th the cost per kilowatt hour of a Li-ion power source.
https://energypost.eu/can-aluminium-air-batteries-outperform-li-ion-for-evs/ (https://energypost.eu/can-aluminium-air-batteries-outperform-li-ion-for-evs/)
This is why, rather than a battery, it's more like an engine that uses fuel. We have done tests for 1,500 miles (2,414 km) and power has been constant all the way. And right now, it costs between 29 and 35 euros per kWh for the manufacturer and 0.15 cents per kilometre for the driver,' he says.
Estimating Hoppers actual calculation base with equipped 200 Wh/Kg battery density and taking Innoliths and/or métalelectrique their 1000 WH/Kg claims we get from Hoppers, to read 60 Km x battery range extending density, factor 5
= 300 Km range extension
and by
electric drive use like Robert Catalan https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html (https://www.voanews.com/a/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet/4235140.html) his development
300 Km by battery improvement + compared conventional drives 100% better efficiency ,improvement factor 2x
= 600 Km drive range possibility .
When 2000 Wh/100 Km translates to 500 Wh consume per hour,by 25 Km/h constant velocity,the PM-/Hallbach-motor improvement decrease to 250 Wh per hour drive electric consume,
this electric consume partially compensating with
a. brake energy recapture
b. solarcell- on-tect
c. American Wind MicroCube turbine/s on tect (by average 25 Km/h each 100 Wh per hour producing)
( not for 2850/2600 US$ ea. but for product costs nearer selling price calculation : 400-500 US$ each Cube )
the MicroCube technology is only by PCT-application commercial saved in the US-market,out from US-borders = open/free source
d. .... ::) e. .... ;)
Let us call d. and e. "Co-battery,as MEG and/or as rotative generator-set version " ,by 500-300 US$ calculation for constant 500 W output
https://www.canyon.com/de-de/e-bikes/future-mobility-concept.html (https://www.canyon.com/de-de/e-bikes/future-mobility-concept.html)
100 Kg Citymover for later commercial maximal 2500 Euros fob factory individual endconsumer price
When Musks X Æ A-XII becomes fifteen years old,she gets the right age for the first Nano-car :
"pOVO"-mobile
OVO = Arzen Egg,Toyota 69 EX-II Egg and Hopper Egg
povo = Georgu Constantinescu and Josef Gantz "povo=people=Volks"-mobile/Wagen
or her father brings fast enough and cheap the company small car Vision for 2500 US$ or less
https://insideevs.de/news/545661/tesla-mini-elektroauto-rendering-2021/ (https://insideevs.de/news/545661/tesla-mini-elektroauto-rendering-2021/)
3d print REPRAP technology in the production process including
These "pOVO"-mobiles production costs calculation,following official selling price :
https://www.alibaba.com/premium/e_trike.html?src=sem_ggl&from=sem_ggl&cmpgn=13270762697&adgrp=120692667777&fditm=&tgt=kwd-499074503672&locintrst=&locphyscl=1011756&mtchtyp=b&ntwrk=g&device=c&dvcmdl=&creative=524301840890&plcmnt=&plcmntcat=&p1=&p2=&aceid=&position=&localKeyword=%2Be%20%2Btrike&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1fybndTV9AIVJ49oCR0NvQGfEAAYAiAAEgJ2N_D_BwE
for example : $1,319.00 - $1,359.00 / 240 Kg net weight = $6 / Kg
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Fully-enclosed-Four-wheel-electric-vehicle_62320980218.html?spm=a2700.details.0.0.16ce38780V3DDe
we take, for 6 Kg, Innolith/métalelectrique battery with 400- 600 Euros/ 6 KWh capacity
for the low power/capacity 375 Euros for charger/battery-management
for the 1-1,5 KW nominal PM-motor ( reference Schiller-motor and DOE-Freedomcar-project 15 US$/Kg material and production costs)
circa 125 Euros
and the car body/equipment the above $6/Kg x 2 for the European Association ( E.U.-Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_African,_Caribbean_and_Pacific_States ) zone production costs level á 85 Kg mobile weight
( body,wheels,brake,...),excluded the extra calculated battery/charger(probably inverter)/motor weight
circa 1000 Euros
+ national value added tax
= total costs/selling price in the 2500 Euros range
by industrial mass production,1000 (thousand) units p.a. minimum
for such Hopper/Canyon/Arzen like low-mass-mobiles/scooter/etrikes/equads
Sincerely
OCWL