I didn't know who this Neuman guy was until several months ago, when I accidentally clicked on a youtube video that told his story. What a heart breaker that was. So I decided to look at some more of his history, background and theories. His theory of magnetic's seems to me to make as much, if not more seance (with the experiments he did to support it) than anything else I've seen lately. I figured that anyone who takes the kind of beating from the Power Brokers and Government (Patent Office) that Joseph Neuman took over his life time and keeps going...in an effort to bring his technology to the people, (and to market),,, there might be something to it. So I picked up a copy of his book and thought I would build a motor.
The book (The Energy Machine of Joseph Neuman) is a little pricey ... it seems that the the printer plates were destroyed in a fire at the print shop that was printing his book??
That being said,, I know less about magnetics than I do about women, which has always been a puzzle to me. So all constructive suggestions and input are welcome.
I used banana plugs on the motor every place I could to make changes easier and faster.
Each coil has 6 pounds of wire, and 2 windings (one on top (29awg) of the other (28 awg).
Total capatance (all coils in series) = 0.015 uf
Total Inductance = 37 H
Total Coil Resistance = 2250 ohms
Resonant Frequency (all coil in series) = 2.2 khz
11,400 turns per coil
wire gauge = first winding 28 awg, second winding = 28 awg
Voltages, 230, 460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlZbG3USWMU
I am not real good with the current probes
so the first thing I want to do is confirm the
output polrirty based on the direction the
probe is placed on the wire being monitored.
So I know which direction the current is flowing
in the wire of circuit. I get confused sometimes
if it's not right in front of me.
Sounds like you are catching a lot of friction
May want to reduce the contact surface area of the commutators
to achieve minimum input current
I can try that. I can reduce the width of my brass pick-ups. I used crome plated brass
on commutator #1 to try and keep the friction low.
Quote from: br549 on November 20, 2019, 02:25:35 PM
I can try that. I can reduce the width of my brass pick-ups. I used crome plated brass
on commutator #1 to try and keep the friction low.
Attached is a video of the wire commutator running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU8t9IAig7Y
Attached is a video of my current motor configuration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTMOMUyPWc&t=29s
Quote from: br549 on November 19, 2019, 04:38:57 PM
The book (The Energy Machine of Joseph Neuman) is a little pricey ... it seems that the the printer plates were destroyed in a fire at the print shop that was printing his book??
The book is available for download: http://www.free-energy-info.com/Newman.pdf
Take a look at his machines in operation,
There appears to be an upper inductive bar
across the top, sometimes 2 bars
Does he write anything about that in his book?
https://youtu.be/fFutjEVUD98 (https://youtu.be/fFutjEVUD98)
I believe that it is part of the wood framework that supports his rotor. In some of his videos on you tube, you can get a better look inside and at the rotor.
About the online book, I looked at it, and it is all good. You can just print out the pages that you want to read, or read them and not print them. I just wanted a signed copy for myself. I am a slow learner, so I had to read his theory several times to get some-what of a handle on it.
Below is a video of the wave forms from the present setup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEmVJXu4aDQ
I haven't checked the documentation on the current probes, as far as resolution, so there is a good possibility that some of the really fast spikes and pulses are being missed. I am a little reluctant about what I connect to the scopes. I blew a channel last year, and it was expensive for Tectonics to repair it.
So this is where I need help and direction pertaining to what the acquired information and test results is telling. I know that there is thousands of people that have a lot more insight and experience than I do.
OOPs.....please note...on the above video, I made a mistake on the description of the third position of the magnet location in reference to the wave form. The magnet should actually be in the horizontal position to the coils.
Hi there watched your clips and had a quick browse of Mr. Newmans motor book but what I need to know to understand how the N S magnets are spun
with respect to current driving the coils and for how long evades me in most of his setups on youtube.
Any chance you can draw a flat circle with markings to show this please
regards Raymondo
Raymondo:
Attached is Joe's description of what I think you are asking. Is's on page 67 of his book.
Raymondo:
Attached is the drawing of the magnet location in reference to the current waveform
Mine is a bit different to yours I made mine more horizontal with a wall of rotating Neo magnets but same principle idea
but I soon realized the amount of friction drag slip rings and brushes created.
I later decided to learn from J B idea and build a full bridge transistor drive circuit and used a pair of Hall detectors,
The problem with Neo's and Halls is the switching sensitivity can be a further problem and really only Opto devices can accurately
control positioning and on-off time otherwise, it becomes a problem collecting the BEMF.
I can't realy re published J B circuit here as it might well be copyright nut you get the idea here.
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Raycathode:
1. How much voltage are you using.
2. Are you able to get a scope shot at the Positive or Negative
terminal of the battery or power supply.
Right now, when I look at the scope shot on mine, I'm not for
sure what part of the wave form (taken at the positive battery terminal),
is causing the reverse electrolysis (charging battery) if any. From what I've read,
it's the positive going pulses that raise the voltage on the positive (carbon)
electrode above the batteries normal voltage, causing a charging effect
upon the battery. I am trying to understand more about the role that the
--(current--), and current spikes (positive and negative) play in the battery charging
process. It's like a lot of things with me, yesterday I thought I knew, today I'm
not sure. The only thing I am pretty sure of is that this technology does work. But
it's kind of like your first date---It takes some experimentation to figure it out.
This is the waveforms I see with this
test and motor configuration (shown below).
Below pics. show my present scope and test setup.
Some insight from Joe, and thee waveform at the positive
terminal of the battery for one 360 degree rotation of the
rotor.
Shown is one rotation of the rotor.
Notice that the battery voltage dips down
during the time that power is
being applied to the coil. So
most of the positive going voltage
spikes do not exceed the normal
battery voltage of 460 volts. Does that mean
that the battery is not charging, (since the voltage spikes
are not more positive than the normal battery voltage),
or does the positive going current pulses help charge the battery also?
I thought I understood Joe's theory, but I may need to go back
and do another read of it.
I welcome any and all opinions, direction, and feed back.
In my world, there is no such thing thing as a illegitimate question or
opinion..
Have a great day.
Hi The device will run from 3.5volts to 9 volts but will go up to 12 volts or higher
but current is from 50 ma to 250ma at over 12 volt I have the hall devices
running off the main rotating magnets but they are not to good as the halls latch on
till the next polarity turns them off it needs more work doing on it positioning and magnets
on the flywheel perhaps or it won't charge and it wastes power.
I don't have a battery it charges a large capacitor or should.
What do the blue and the yellow wave forms represent.?
I was wondering what it would take to eliminate the voltage drop across the battery
during commutation (when power is connected to the coil). When I added 4uf of capacitance
across the battery, the voltage drop was reduced to 44 volts, which is a 30 volt change.
It's Sunday, and I don't have any more HV capacitors on hand, but doing the math:
(4uf / 30 volt) = 0.1333, so to raise it 74 volts (during commutation) it would take:
(74 V * 0.1333) = 10. uf. Have to wait till next week to try.
I was a little hung up on whether of not I was getting voltage and current back to my
batteries and how much. The wave forms are still a little evasive to me, with all the
stuff in Neuman's book about negative pulses and revers electrolises of the battery.
So last night I went to the "Mountain" (the local bar) and after numerous shots of
Tequila I seen the light. When I woke up, I realized that I had passed out in the bars
parking lot, and was laying on my back----staring up at the street light. Any way today
I decided to return the energy to some capacitors with and without the #2 wire pulsing
commutator which is in series with the #1 commutator. At first I tried it with the #2 wire commutator,
and then with just the #1 commutator. It was interesting to note (see below video) that the
voltage in the cap. almost tripled when I used the #2 wire commutator in series with the #1
commutator, and there was no noticeable change in my input current. My battery voltage is 454 volts
(which hasn't change much in the last month or so. I am using 56 (9 volt) batteries in series.
From this test, I believe that I will dedicate some time towards improving the #2
brush commutator. I am no expert on this stuff, but I am thinking that you can emulate
Joe's results of excess energy out, with out using 56 miles of wire, but some of the other
parameters will need to be changes, (commutator design, pulse width, number of pulses,
resonance, etc).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPTDyVH0TOU
I don't get it why some people claim that a motor which is running from a battery and charges another battery produces more energy than it consumes. If this would be the case then it should be possible to close the loop directly, maybe using a capacitor for buffering but definitely without 1 or 2 batteries.
Quote from: skywatcher on November 28, 2019, 01:44:25 PM
I don't get it why some people claim that a motor which is running from a battery and charges another battery produces more energy than it consumes. If this would be the case then it should be possible to close the loop directly, maybe using a capacitor for buffering but definitely without 1 or 2 batteries.
What I dont get is why is this guy still broke and doesnt have his house hooked up to it.
Why does he act all needy and shit?
The thing is right there, why aint he rich?
Probably because... IT DONT WORK!
You gotta read between the lines bruh, save yourself some $.
All I can tell you guys, is that you need to watch this video.
It tells the whole story, and what happens to anyone else
that tries to bring free energy to market.
The guy that thinks, for a minute that he is going to bring
free energy to the market and save man kind is out of touch
with reallity.----- I am a slow learner,
but it didn't take me too long to figure out who really runs this
planet. (Power Brokers, Oil and Energy Cartel, and governments who
make 45 percent of there income off of energy).
Personally.....I do this stuff as a hobby, and have absolutely no visions
of grandeur about being the guy that enlightened the word on how to
have free energy for all. It will never happen in may life time, and probably
not in most of yours. It will only happen when the earth is so polluted and
our atmosphere is to the point where it is unbreathable and the survival
of the masses is at stake. My advice is enjoy doing these little projects, but
don't take it serious. Like Joe Morrison always said "No One Gets Out Alive".
----By the way, does am\nyone have any ideas on how to improve my wire rotor
to get more uniform and consistent pulses?
If theres a movie then you know its garbage.
Next.
Appearances can be deceptive, these documentaries...these flamboyant personnalities.
Attached is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrJIzrmX1mI
Don't take this the wrong way, are you what they call a troll. I read about them, they add no value to the project, they try to undermine and
redirect the subject manner in a negative or dead end direction, and are a general neuisance. I hope that's not the case but if it
walks like a duck, It must be a duck. So unless you have any positive contribution, your comments will be ignored.
ROFL, and you are what? Somebody who is gonna prove me wrong and make a working newman overunity machine?
Go ahead, neither me nor the big bad powers that be are stopping you, you have all his written testimoney and directives.
Go ahead, prove me wrong, power your house with it and rule the world....Or...A fool and his money will soon be parted.
You seem like a sensible guy Brett.
Why did you even come here? You thought that we can help you? Is anybody on this site good enough to give you tips on how to make this work and overunity?
My friend, I think you should re-evaluate. If you did as best you can according to the information given to you, then you did you best. The fault goes to the man who gave you the drawing.
Cant he print a document in his home town, pass a usb drive to somebody? Or is just another case of Bozo the fraudy clown.
What I saw was mostly acting like an ass in front of young people who realized they wasted gas money.
What I saw left me unimpressed honestly, and that was a long time ago.
Somebody who has an overunity device that works has a certain demeanor, his demeanor was not this type of man, he seemed like the type of guy ready to take a check at any given moment ROFL.
Why would he even need to teach you anythng, and be compromising the safety of him or his device by even stepping out of his palacial estate?
Ohhh right, it wasnt so.
Its funny, I actually watched the movie.
I will be totally unbiased.
As an experienced and learned overunity.com reader, I immediatly detected bullshit, and left the theater with the opnion that.
It was another scam. I think the patent office knew exactly the kind of effect it would have on the future peasants if you give this man space and media attention.
A nice little rotten apple for these feisty peasants.
Just like they pull off crazy strategies to slow down Tesla.
OK
I was wondering if anyone (out there) has experience using
rechargeable batteries with a Neuman style motor.
Right now I am not sure about how efficient the reverse
electrolysis is, or how to be sure is happening.
I don't want to run the motor for an extended period of time
until I am sure I can at least approach unity or better. The
batteries cost too much to let it run all night just to see what
happens. So I have just been running it long enough to do
the test I need to do.
I don't know if the scam thing is a psychological thing or a conspiracy of the up Morganite greed party as you can't meter it so they say.
But on a couple of vids on youtube, Mr. Doves now removed and also Mr. Sharks Akula where he shows a way of getting an on BEMF spike and of course Richard Ferymans quotes
and also an off spike that needs to be set up, now if you can't cope with that!
Well and then there is resonance tuning that Rick didn't explain but Rick knows more than he is saying ;D ;D
Thanks Raycathode for the direction:
I found some information on aboveunity.com site pertaining to Andrey's work.
Have a good day.
The wire commutator #2 seemed to produce some negative pulses,
but is inconsistent and random. So I decided to try a mechanical oscillator.
in line with my commutator. I didn't want to use a relay so I was able to
get a Sonicare tooth brush that oscillates at 240 hertz. I modified it for
a quick test. It generated a lot more negative pulses. I notices something
interesting.My commutator #1 is on for about 120 degrees, off for 40 degrees
then changes polairty for another 120 degrees, and off for 40 degrees, and
repeats the cycle. Even though the pulse generator is on all of the time, I
only generate negative pulses during certain areas of the cycle. Wonder why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YYTBEmr5pU