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Title: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Eighthman on July 22, 2021, 01:27:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EBXY4iXxQ


If free energy exists as a reasonably buildable device, it likely would involve some omission or accidental oversight in physics - as so much has been explored or debunked for so long.


As to areas that might contain such an omission, they could be subjects that are avoided or quickly dismissed - such as centrifugal force, which is dismissed as a 'pseudo- force' or examining unbalanced/asymetrical rotation - since nearly all engineering is devoted to eliminating that inbalance.  An example would be the tires on your car which are balanced to prevent harmful or unpleasant vibrations in your driving experience. 


This idea about 'looking in the trash' for the occasional discarded valuable came to me while finding unpopular stocks on Wall Street that were overloooked  - and eventually profitable.  The field of money is the most analyzed and examined field in all human endeavour. If the valuable very rare exception can be found there, why not other fields such as science?


There have been many devices across decades that involve rotation and odd mechanical movements that claim free energy - such as the Skinner drive, the Linevich device or even the Bessler wheel. Could they be exploiting a real effect?


The experiments of physicist Richard Vialle suggest they might be.  In the above video, a balance beam consisting of a motor on one end, is driving a heavy wheel on the other end.  Acceleration seems to produce a momentary loss of mass while deacceleration produces a momentary gain. This is similar to the claims once made by physicist Kozyrev about irregular motion and mass (measured weight disappearing and reappearing in small amounts).


I regret that nearly every link about Vialle's work have disappeared. That short video is the best I could do.  I could speculate as to why......


Now, suppose we have a flywheel that is unbalanced.  As the heavier side rotates downward, it accelerates and looses some mass briefly.  As it travels upward from 180 degree/the bottom most point, it regains that lost mass until it returns to top dead center.


The free energy emerges from the fact that torque can be taken off from the downward rotation while adding back lost torque during the ascent.  However (!), the ascent of the unbalanced side of the wheel is slightly 'lighter' or less massive - until it returns to the top.  There would be a small momentary difference in mass or weight between the two 180 degree movements - to exploit.


Thus, by repeating/iterating - free energy could be accumulated from a switched clutch action ( as with the Linevich device and possibly others) while a switched motor drive adds back the slightly smaller torque needed to maintain RPMs.  An inventor named Wuerth made a claim such as this ( but got into financial trouble, injuring his credibility)


Think of all the goofy overunity devices reported - as with the Clem motor or odd motor drives with slipping belts - that this simple effect could explain.  Tighten the belts and "fix" the imbalance and the free energy claims go away. Exactly !
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Kator01 on July 22, 2021, 06:27:47 PM
Dear friend,
this topic has been discussed in August 2012 here

https://overunity.com/12639/richard-vialles-new-theory-about-negative-mass-and-overunity/ (https://overunity.com/12639/richard-vialles-new-theory-about-negative-mass-and-overunity/)
Some of those links lead to a -side, but if you do a research using french titles there are some informations
I have done a quick research with duckduckgo and found this :

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Extraits_Publics%2Fbalance_a_disque_tournant.pdf&ia=web (https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Extraits_Publics%2Fbalance_a_disque_tournant.pdf&ia=web)
http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/2012News/imagesnews12/BalanceAdisqueTournantVialle.pdf (http://quanthomme.free.fr/qhsuite/2012News/imagesnews12/BalanceAdisqueTournantVialle.pdf)
Using his name ahead in the search of the above document there are more information
https://www.academia.edu/18061516/_deprecated_2015_11_10_Th%C3%A9orie_de_Richard_Vialle_R%C3%A9vision_Chapitre_1_2_et_annexes (https://www.academia.edu/18061516/_deprecated_2015_11_10_Th%C3%A9orie_de_Richard_Vialle_R%C3%A9vision_Chapitre_1_2_et_annexes)
Its all in french but with online translation tools it shoud be no problem

Mike
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: aussiebattler on July 22, 2021, 06:50:18 PM
You mentiond Clem. Did you see this? https://overunity.com/18905/delta-t-energy-technology-the-secret-of-the-clem-motor/msg559270/#new

R
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Eighthman on July 22, 2021, 09:00:35 PM
Thank you for providing those links that I couldn't find.


The problem with trying to replicate Vialle's work is that it gets diverted into some strange but interesting coils and circuits - that so far haven't yielded unambiguous overunity (AFAIK).  Maybe it's promising but I find it difficult to understand.


If my idea about mass shedding (and return) is correct, then perhaps there is a way to exploit current flow as with Steven Mark, Boyce, or the Sweet devices. Or maybe that was Vialle's idea as well.  Part of my difficulty in visualizing any such miraculous effect involves the tiny movement of electron drift current ( like fractions of an inch - which makes slinging electrons around in any 'centrifugal manner' hard to picture)


My point is that his disc experiment simply shows something has been ignored in physics about motion and mass.  And I relate that demonstration to various free energy claims possibly exploiting this 'mass shedding' idea.


As for the Clem device, I think some sort of asymmetric twisting must have been involved.  This would be similar to the strange pipes that Schauberger used - which rotated the water asymmetrically as it flowed.


In bringing up this subject, I forgot about Fotios Chalkalis and his rotating pendulum.  He made some free energy claims and even got a nice analysis from Kanarev (physicist) but it's gone no where so far.
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: aussiebattler on July 22, 2021, 09:32:18 PM
Your thoughts about vortex funnelling (Schauberger) are probably correct.I have includrd this in my proposals as well. Of most important issue is the heat extraction from ambient'
R
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Kator01 on July 23, 2021, 12:30:27 PM
Hello Eightman,
now concerning Vialles Balance-Mass-Experiment we have to think about gyroskopic
behaviour. Although gravitation in his experiment is balanced, the moment he starts the rotation of this balanced mass in the plastic-container there will be a short moment ofdisturbance within the system and the gyro-effect comes into play. Since thegyro can not express itself by confinement on the balance ( balance can not rotate horizontally around its axis) it will be lifted for a moment because of mechanical tolerrancesin the bearings.
I would suggest to watch first Prof. Eric Laithwaits public demonstrations about gyros
here:
https://peakd.com/antigravity/@mes/antigravity-part-3-eric-laithwaite-s-reality-defying-1974-lecture-on-gyroscopes-hiddenscience (https://peakd.com/antigravity/@mes/antigravity-part-3-eric-laithwaite-s-reality-defying-1974-lecture-on-gyroscopes-hiddenscience)
and second watch Fran McCabes demonstration one of the best presentations you can ever get on the internet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndRdwp0Vaho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndRdwp0Vaho)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fntUE8bZo00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fntUE8bZo00)
hope this helps in understanding Vialles experiment. By the way, Vialle - since he was a physicist - should have known gyro-behaviour.
Mike

Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Eighthman on July 23, 2021, 03:06:45 PM
http://www.rexresearch.com/vialle/vialle.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/vialle/vialle.htm)


Vialle made clear that the balance beam experiment made him unpopular because it could not be explained by his fellow acedemics.  If gyroscopic motion creates an upward thrust, then that still registers as a loss of mass, however brief.  The up and down are 90 degrees away from the gyroscopic plane of motion
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: MasterPlaster on July 23, 2021, 05:27:12 PM

This video my open other doors for you:Inventor of Free Energy Generator:

"THEY TRIED TO KILL ME." - Adam Trombly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cLNgKoh5Tk
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: aussiebattler on July 23, 2021, 05:43:07 PM
"If free energy exists as a reasonably buildable device, it likely would involve some omission or accidental oversight in physics - as so much has been explored or debunked for so long."
Eighthman
I couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: onepower on July 25, 2021, 02:49:40 AM
QuoteThis video my open other doors for you:Inventor of Free Energy Generator:

"THEY TRIED TO KILL ME." - Adam Trombly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cLNgKoh5Tk

Thanks for the video...

It's always the same sad story and for every one of the best and brightest working to make the world a better place there are probably ten thousand knuckle dragging primates trying shut them down.

There is one consolation as Tesla implied..."Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments.
The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine".

This is what many cannot seem to understand and Tesla, Moray, Hendershot etc.. won the free energy war. This is true because there work will outlive all those who oppose it and year after year more and more people are learning how Free Energy works. It's simply a matter of time... we will win and the opposition will lose.

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: onepower on August 02, 2021, 03:16:07 PM
In the news...

Climate change is revving up Earths heat engine producing record global heat waves and flooding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Western_North_America_heat_wave
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01869-0
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00627-y
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/wildfires-turkey-greece-italy-europe-latest-b1894968.html

I have to wonder how bad it has to get before the majority of people admit somethings wrong?. It may be similar to the pandemic where we saw countless people saying it's just the flu on social media then fighting for there life in an ICU days later.

In my neck of the woods in Alberta, Canada it's a train wreck. A record lack of precipitation, record peak temperatures and duration and a record lack of water in the reservoirs and rivers. You know thinks are getting bad when we can't launch our boat in most lakes to go fishing because most of the the boat launches are closed due to low levels. This used to be unheard of however in the last few years it's become common... not cool.

Regards
AC


Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Eighthman on August 03, 2021, 04:35:34 PM
Could somebody suggest some switching circuits (links)  for switching 16 coils in a coreless axial generator on and off? Schematics somewhere?


Better yet would be switching between generation and a motor function (like a stepper motor).   My goal is to drive a asymmetric rotor and alternate between driving it and removing power from it, depending on position. So, that could use simple optical sensors to trigger the circuit.  16 relays switched at once within a rotation sounds messy.


I think many of the schemes I've seen here could benefit from this sort of precise control.  By doing this, a clear difference could be seen as to input and output energy, in a neat unambiguous fashion as separated.   
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 03, 2021, 05:42:33 PM
Perhaps:
A stepper motor type driver could be used during powered phase
And a timer circuit, such as the 5555 or similar, to switch on/off power to the motor
And open the collection circuit during generating phase.
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Superhero on March 30, 2022, 09:43:04 PM
Check my free energy solution 396.pdf.    Just read the very end of the paper free energy  Part.
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: captainpecan on March 30, 2022, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: Eighthman on August 03, 2021, 04:35:34 PM
Could somebody suggest some switching circuits (links)  for switching 16 coils in a coreless axial generator on and off?


I am not the one to ask for to much detailed switching circuits. But, it sounds like a simple mosfet circuit may do what you need without adding much that uses extra energy. Something I have been doing that uses virtually no energy to switch, is a simple reed switch in line woth the gate of a mosfet. Hall effect sensor is nice also of course. Just one simple way to do it.
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: captainpecan on March 30, 2022, 10:48:19 PM
Just some mental ramblings. If free energy does actually exist, (and we know it does) then something we have all been taught is wrong or misunderstood. Also, as most of us feel, not everything is a closed system as we have been taught. In my opinion, part of it could be that we don't really understand the source of the magnetism that forms around any current carrying source. It hasn't been to long that we have understood that the current doesn't actually flow inside the wire as it actually flows on the outer skin of the wire. Then, there is a magnetic field that surrounds it. I personally believe the magnetism isn't from the wire. It is the environment reacting to the current in the wire. This makes it an open system. Consider this. If you take 2 capacitors. You charge 1 up and leave the 2nd one at 0 volts. Connect them together and the voltages balance between the 2. Now of course you have lost energy because of how you figure energy in a capacitor. That's not the point here. The point is, if you do the same experiment again accept you hook a motor between the 2 capacitors and do the same thing. The motor runs and the end result is almost identical to the first test. The voltages split between the caps. So the motor did not CONSUME the energy. Yet it runs. It runs because the magnetic field that it uses doesn't actually come from the wire and get consumed. It comes from the environment reacting to the wire. The energy in the system leaves due to losses and being sent to ground. If this is in fact the case as I have seen it myself with tests, then the work done by any electric motor is actually free energy from the environment. We just need to recycle enough energy from the original source to reuse again. Easier said than done of course. But this is my belief of how it works. And gives us plenty of reason to continue. Because when viewed in this manner, it's no different than a wind mill or solar panel because the excess energy is coming from outside of the initial circuit and does not violate any laws of physics. Maybe the free energy is right under our noses so we over look it? My opinion anyway.

This was a crappy little video I did many years ago on an old account that shows that simple experiment I explain. But it's still relevant today. I made a mistake in it towards the end saying there is a gain. That is inaccurate. I meant less loss. Completely different meaning.
https://youtu.be/vwp7podu06s (https://youtu.be/vwp7podu06s)
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
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Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Feb2006 on March 31, 2022, 07:29:50 AM

Marcus Reid
Virtual particles in electromagnetism
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: e2matrix on March 31, 2022, 01:10:44 PM
Quote from: Feb2006 on March 31, 2022, 07:29:50 AM
Marcus Reid
Virtual particles in electromagnetism


Cool book with neat illustrations but Contents says it ends on page 135 and there are only 94 pages.  The chapter starting on page 97 - The Ferroelectric Crystal Oscillator was of particular interest but it is not there.   Do you have the rest of this book or know where it can be found?
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Feb2006 on March 31, 2022, 01:41:23 PM
https://quantumpowermunich.de/ (https://quantumpowermunich.de/)
https://vakuumenergie.de/ (https://vakuumenergie.de/)
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: captainpecan on March 31, 2022, 02:09:40 PM
Quote from: Feb2006 on March 31, 2022, 07:29:50 AM
Marcus Reid
Virtual particles in electromagnetism


It is a very good read. And it fits the experiments I've done. Of course on a way smaller scale. I have been trying to read it between work today. Haven't finished yet. But thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: captainpecan on March 31, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
I am having a hard time finding a download of the complete book. But I did find this. There is some more info in video form here as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/our-book-virtual-particles-electromagnetism-revisited-charles-fraser
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: conradelektro on April 01, 2022, 06:03:56 AM
Quote from: captainpecan on March 31, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
I am having a hard time finding a download of the complete book. But I did find this. There is some more info in video form here as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/our-book-virtual-particles-electromagnetism-revisited-charles-fraser (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/our-book-virtual-particles-electromagnetism-revisited-charles-fraser)

Marcus Reid's book stops where a nice theory hits reality, namely the Reid Cell.

It is a mystery what electricity really is and how a current moves through a wire. This mystery inspires Reid to construct a theory like a science fiction story. It is a nice story but of little help in reality. Reid is a talented writer and speaker, but not a talented engineer or scientist.

The Reid Cell is a strange battery which runs dead after the ingredients are used up.

So, the interesting part of the book will never come. Reid is a show man, like many free energy writers. Writing abot free energy is possible, but producing free energy is magic in the realm of fiction.

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: conradelektro on April 01, 2022, 06:09:07 AM
There is free energy. It is light and heat from the sun which drives life on earth since billions of years. The sun's energy will run down, but will last much longer than humans.


Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: lancaIV on April 01, 2022, 10:07:18 AM
The  " M. Reid cell" is not a (discret dielectric) captret !
The "M.Reid cell" is a discret dieletric captret !

discret dieletric/telluric current
Frank Marhanka cell/ telluric current


wmbr and an happy weekend wishing ( if calendaric related )

OCWL
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: captainpecan on April 01, 2022, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: conradelektro on April 01, 2022, 06:03:56 AM

The Reid Cell is a strange battery which runs dead after the ingredients are used up.
Yeah, to me the description resembles what Hutchison was working on with his Crystal permanent batteries. I've always had an interest in earth batteries and crystal batteries. But I've never built more than the very simple stuff in that field. But I do think his theory of virtual particles seems to fit with experiments I've done. Something is working different in an electric motor than what we have been taught. I have seen that if you can catch and recycle the energy by passing it THROUGH a motor instead of just into it to ground, the motor still runs the same. We can just recycle a portion of the energy. So something is going on there. Now finding a way to beat an only 80% efficient motor, then only getting 80% of that back from a generator, while fighting the initial 60% loss of transferring energy from one source to another to begin with, sure doesn't leave much left to harvest in ideal situations anyway. BUT... that's where I'm looking anyway. It's the best idea I have to go after it, that I can actually physically build things to try. I'm having some luck with my current motor build. It has some interesting differences, but it's no more than a little different pulse motor right now. But, I know we can do way better than 80% efficient in motor and generators to have a chance at this. Well, that's the plan anyway.
Title: Re: Is Free Energy Being Overlooked?: Hypothesis
Post by: Feb2006 on April 01, 2022, 01:40:47 PM


"Only those who atempt
the absurd can achieve
the impossible."
       
         Albert Einstein