Floor
QuoteUp and down are really away from earths center and toward it.
Locally valid, universally invalid, but it is a natural assumption to conclude
that up and down are universally uniform.
I would agree and many of the terms relating to our perception on Earth are obsolete in space. There is no up or down, no directions like north or south, no altitude only distance, no gravity thus no weight only inertia. In many respects we live in a very narrow band on the surface of the planet with phenomena unlike 99% of the rest of the universe, a goldilocks zone. Which may explain why our perception of things is so severely flawed.
QuoteIt is also an assumption to think a universal time actually exists.
If universal time didn't exist then we can basically throw all our astronomical measurements out the window. Time as we know it is a standard of measurement like a cm, kg, amp or volt. We can't start messing around with a standard of measurement simply because we don't understand how something works.
It reminds me of the critics saying a free energy device must violate the conservation of energy, lol. However anyone who actually understands the COE would know it cannot be violated. So why would a supposed "expert" claim to believe in the COE then claim it was violated proving they don't actually believe in the COE. Contradictions can tell us a great deal about what a person really believes...
Regards
AC
I'll just say, that to my mind relativity does not conflict with an either.
The topic does not interest me.
see you around
floor
In every respect free energy theory is an Aether theory.
We could also note that general relativity set free energy research back by decades. In fact every successful free energy inventor with demonstrable technology claimed GR was a fraud and unworkable.
This is why I think it's very important that FE researchers understand that time is not variable it is constant. The properties of matter are variable which means the energy of matter is also variable.
Think of it this way, if we change the properties of a mass we could make any weight float like a balloon. We could lift the weight to any height with little work then reintroduce the original properties and have the weight fall performing more work. This is the basic premise of all free energy devices. We change the properties of something so that our energy input is always less than the energy output.
No hokus pocus is required, no magical space time nonsense, no spooky action at a distance, worm holes or magical particles from other parallel universes. All this is complete nonsense meant to distract from the fact that we are immersed in a sea of energy for the taking.
Regards
AC
Just NO.
https://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SR/light_mass.html#:~:text=Light%20is%20composed%20of%20photons,experiment%20to%20within%20strict%20limits.
Light-wave !?
conservative dimension: mass versus relativistic dimension : mass !
dimensionless Relativity !?
wmbr
OCWL
Notrino? ( news
Here a nice woman wonders why ? ( physics is getting more holy ...(lotsa holes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p118YbxFtGg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p118YbxFtGg)
Respectfully
Chet K
Not just face book but all social media has some of these characteristics.
i.e. "Us" versus "them" bull crap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lx5VmAdZSI
All we really need to understand about GR/space-time is that the people who invented it have a little secret they didn't want most people to know. It was Richard Feynman who basically let the cat out of the bag in my opinion.
The dirty little secret is that the only explanation they have for a field is "virtual particles popping in and out of existence from multiple parallel universes". Which is comical because 1)they have no proof of there claim, 2)it has no basis in nature or reality and 3)it's even more complex and unbelievable than any Aether theory. Most people have never heard this explanation before because the GR people don't like to talk about it. Mainly because it's almost impossible to give this explanation and not come off as a complete nut job.
The Aether theory also falls in line with what we see happening in physics. The better microscopes we build the more we see on a smaller scale. We just keep finding more particles smaller than the last ones with no proof there is a limit. Not unlike the universe and the more powerful our telescopes the more stuff we see and again there is no proof suggesting a limit or end to it. Therefore the proof we do have is pointing towards more particles and smaller particles... an Aether.
We should also keep in mind that everyone keeps saying particles cannot get smaller nor the universe bigger and they keep getting proven wrong. At least Albert Einstein had the integrity to admit he was wrong about his GR/space-time theories unlike most of his followers. Of course Einstein bathed in all the glory, fame and fortune for decades and it was only near the end he came clean and admitted he was wrong, well played Albert.
There were also a great deal of very powerful interests behind Einstein and his theories. In the early to mid 1900's Aether theory was very popular and it seemed like new free energy devices were being invented on a weekly basis. The air was electric with countless new energy technologies popping up all over the place. However as Tesla noted, some very powerful men were backing Einstein and once his theories took hold any talk of free energy basically disappeared.
Which begs the question... who had the most to gain by disrupting free energy and replacing it with a nonsensical theory based on space-time?. Obviously the oilmen as well as Morgan/Westinghouse and other electrical businessmen but there was another party in the background. Who had the most to lose from an Aether theory which could allow anyone to "create" matter/energy, to transmute the elements or achieve antigravity and other god like powers?. Indeed, many powerful interests had a great deal to lose in more ways than most can imagine. As we know, the most dangerous kind of person is an independent free thinking individual because they have little fear and are very difficult to control.
This is why when I see everyone zig I tend to zag..
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on October 05, 2021, 02:47:34 AM
All we really need to understand about GR/space-time is that the people who invented it have a little secret they didn't want most people to know. It was Richard Feynman who basically let the cat out of the bag in my opinion.
The dirty little secret is that the only explanation they have for a field is "virtual particles popping in and out of existence from multiple parallel universes". Which is comical because 1)they have no proof of there claim, 2)it has no basis in nature or reality and 3)it's even more complex and unbelievable than any Aether theory. Most people have never heard this explanation before because the GR people don't like to talk about it. Mainly because it's almost impossible to give this explanation and not come off as a complete nut job.
The Aether theory also falls in line with what we see happening in physics. The better microscopes we build the more we see on a smaller scale. We just keep finding more particles smaller than the last ones with no proof there is a limit. Not unlike the universe and the more powerful our telescopes the more stuff we see and again there is no proof suggesting a limit or end to it. Therefore the proof we do have is pointing towards more particles and smaller particles... an Aether.
We should also keep in mind that everyone keeps saying particles cannot get smaller nor the universe bigger and they keep getting proven wrong. At least Albert Einstein had the integrity to admit he was wrong about his GR/space-time theories unlike most of his followers. Of course Einstein bathed in all the glory, fame and fortune for decades and it was only near the end he came clean and admitted he was wrong, well played Albert.
There were also a great deal of very powerful interests behind Einstein and his theories. In the early to mid 1900's Aether theory was very popular and it seemed like new free energy devices were being invented on a weekly basis. The air was electric with countless new energy technologies popping up all over the place. However as Tesla noted, some very powerful men were backing Einstein and once his theories took hold any talk of free energy basically disappeared.
Which begs the question... who had the most to gain by disrupting free energy and replacing it with a nonsensical theory based on space-time?. Obviously the oilmen as well as Morgan/Westinghouse and other electrical businessmen but there was another party in the background. Who had the most to lose from an Aether theory which could allow anyone to "create" matter/energy, to transmute the elements or achieve antigravity and other god like powers?. Indeed, many powerful interests had a great deal to lose in more ways than most can imagine. As we know, the most dangerous kind of person is an independent free thinking individual because they have little fear and are very difficult to control.
This is why when I see everyone zig I tend to zag..
Regards
AC
"All we really need to understand about GR/space-time is that the people who invented it have a little secret they didn't want most people to know."
"The dirty little secret is that the only explanation they have for a field is "virtual particles popping in and out of existence from multiple parallel universes".
To discuss the universe in terms of an Aether, is to say essentially the same thing
as that there are virtual particles.
Any Aether that existed, WOULD also BE a kind of "parallel universe".
"All we really need to understand"
"The dirty little secret is that the only explanation they have for a field ...."
"Which is comical"
"We should also keep in mind"
" they have no proof"
"We should also keep in mind that everyone keeps saying particles cannot get smaller nor the universe bigger and they keep getting proven wrong."
"Which begs the question... who had the most to gain by disrupting free energy"
Your, we and they speeches sound like those of a propagandist, and like most
propagandists you demonstrate that you understand almost nothing of what you
speak of.
Your most common theme is a divisive one of us versus them, black and white thinking.
We the free thinkers and so on and they that deny free energy and so on.
When we allow our selves to fall into that kind of black and white thinking,
we are not free thinkers.
That is small minded thinking and one stuck within it, would be among the first to
sell out ANY cause that could bring freedom.
Fear is their master, and freedom and free thinking terrify such a person.
So let us keep a vigilance so as not become as such small minded persons.
best wishes
floor
floor
QuoteWhen we allow our selves to fall into that kind of black and white thinking,
we are not free thinkers.
That is small minded thinking and one stuck within it, would be among the first to
sell out ANY cause that could bring freedom.
I'm simply pointing out that it's one thing to have a belief but quite another to take action which attempts to inhibit others freedom and beliefs.
I believe Tesla and many other great inventors had free energy and it was based on an Aether theory. This obviously represented a danger to others vested interests and wealth so they attempted to bury it. As I implied, an independent free thinking individual has little reliance on others or there beliefs.
Many are starting to understand that anyone who profits from us is not really our friend. This can easily be proven by telling them we will not give them another dime and seeing what happens. Try going to your church, local politician, place of business, or utility provider and telling them they will not get another dime. You will soon find yourself an outcast perceived as the enemy and see how quickly the attitudes change. I have done this experiment many times and watched as the person falsely claiming to be a friend turned into a monster before my eyes. You see... real science works.
So we should understand most of modern science is as much about money, greed and control as anything. Nobody wants us to be truly free or independent of them because there's simply no profit in it. However we could note that Tesla often spoke of true freedom and independence which was why the powers that be destroyed him and buried his work.
QuoteYour, we and they speeches sound like those of a propagandist, and like most
propagandists you demonstrate that you understand almost nothing of what you
speak of.
That is small minded thinking and one stuck within it, would be among the first to
sell out ANY cause that could bring freedom.
Fear is their master, and freedom and free thinking terrify such a person.
You are wrong, I am not a propagandist I am a realist and an inventor.
The science is pretty clear and when a person runs out of facts or valid arguments they often resort to gaslighting or attacking the person as you have. I have determined that others independence and freedom is in my best interests. Individual freedom and independence from others beliefs takes away from monopolies and the mob mentality which is in all our best interests in my opinion.
Regards
AC
Quote from: onepower on October 05, 2021, 12:35:05 PM
floor
I'm simply pointing out that it's one thing to have a belief but quite another to take action which attempts to inhibit others freedom and beliefs.
I believe Tesla and many other great inventors had free energy and it was based on an Aether theory. This obviously represented a danger to others vested interests and wealth so they attempted to bury it. As I implied, an independent free thinking individual has little reliance on others or there beliefs.
Many are starting to understand that anyone who profits from us is not really our friend. This can easily be proven by telling them we will not give them another dime and seeing what happens. Try going to your church, local politician, place of business, or utility provider and telling them they will not get another dime. You will soon find yourself an outcast perceived as the enemy and see how quickly the attitudes change. I have done this experiment many times and watched as the person falsely claiming to be a friend turned into a monster before my eyes. You see... real science works.
So we should understand most of modern science is as much about money, greed and control as anything. Nobody wants us to be truly free or independent of them because there's simply no profit in it. However we could note that Tesla often spoke of true freedom and independence which was why the powers that be destroyed him and buried his work.
You are wrong, I am not a propagandist I am a realist and an inventor.
The science is pretty clear and when a person runs out of facts or valid arguments they often resort to gaslighting or attacking the person as you have. I have determined that others independence and freedom is in my best interests. Individual freedom and independence from others beliefs takes away from monopolies and the mob mentality which is in all our best interests in my opinion.
Regards
AC
"I'm simply pointing out that it's one thing to have a belief but quite another to take action which attempts to inhibit others freedom and beliefs."
And yet that is exactly what you did, repeatedly, in your dialog with nix85 in the topic @
https://overunity.com/12328/radiant-electriciy-generated-with-spark-gaps-and-induction-coils-theory/msg560694/#msg560694
i.e. attempt to inhibit another. The infliction of pain upon another by whatever means,
physically or emotionally as an attempt to inhibit / control that other.
"I believe Tesla and many other great inventors had free energy and it was based on an Aether theory. This obviously represented a danger to others vested interests and wealth so they attempted to bury it."
No doubt.
And what ? You put your self in the same class as Tesla ?
"As I implied, an independent free thinking individual has little reliance on others or there beliefs."
Not true !
Show me one thought, word, idea, value, or belief that came from you, and that has "little reliance
on others or their beliefs". Just one.
"Many are starting to understand that anyone who profits from us is not really our friend."
There you go with your "us" and "our" crap again.
Who do you think you are entitled to be speaking for.
Why don't you show a little courage and speak for your self.
Although you mostly manage to keep it subtle, your actions reveal that your objections are more
so based in your own petty jealousy, rather than in any concern for others.
"So we should understand most of modern science is as much about money, greed and control as anything."
That is not science, that is the abuse of knowledge and power.
"Try going to your church, local politician, place of business, or utility provider and telling them they will not get another dime. You will soon find yourself an outcast perceived as the enemy and see how quickly the attitudes change. I have done this experiment many times and watched as the person falsely claiming to be a friend turned into a monster before my eyes. You see... real science works."
Poor little rebel outcast.
I don't even know you and all ready I don't like you.
Gas lighting and then claiming to be the real victim here.
"The science is pretty clear and when a person runs out of facts or valid arguments they often resort to gaslighting or attacking the person as you have."
Dude, if I was to really start in with the gas lighting and attacking, you wouldn't know which way
was up, down or which way was loose.
Don't worry. But try to do a better job and take more responsibility for you own level of
honesty.
egads
floor
post script
As I previously said..
" To discuss the universe in terms of an Aether, is to say essentially the same thing
as that there are virtual particles.
Any Aether that existed, WOULD also BE a kind of "parallel universe"."
The fact remains that basically every successful free energy inventor who demonstrated working technology claimed to be using the Aether theory.
The greater majority also claimed they built free energy devices to free mankind from there dependence on others. To give people the freedom of choice where they get there energy.
I'm all for that...
Regards
AC
Me to.
regards
floor
Me 3
And I think Lanca makes lV
Jerry
QuoteThere is a primordial substance, in this universe, which is a state of matter that is so tenuous it will pass right through any known solid material. In the olden days (early past century and before), this substance was known as the luminoferous chemical ether. It has a dull red glow, with magnetic properties, surface tension (which enables it to flow and curl), and an electrical charge which depends on its density. This is the ether which fell from popularity and was stigmatised.
Indeed, we already know what we call tangible matter is only 1% matter and 99% free space full of high energy particles and EM waves. So what we perceive as material is only 1% material and 99% energy.
The main problem would seem to be the inability to recognize all the space full of energy between the particles of matter. It's kind of like throwing 1 ping pong ball into 99 ounces of turbulent water and declaring all I see are ping pong balls. In fact it was only after I recognized how skewed and dysfunctional our perception of reality is that I began to make real progress towards free energy.
It's kind of strange because most Theists do not recognize material things as 99% non-physical in it's nature yet I as an Atheist do. What we call material is only 1% material immersed in a sea of energy which is seen as non-physical. Even more strange is the fact that we have never touched or sensed anything physical and it's only our mind deciphering electrical signals from the field interactions present. No physical particles ever come into contact and all forces relate directly to the fields surrounding the particles of matter. Thus everything we have ever sensed or measured could be considered non-physical because it is always a field interaction. Adding to the confusion is the fact that nobody seems to know what a field is...
It's no wonder everyone is so confused because science will not recognize spirituality and yet most all of science revolves around field interactions which are regarded as non-physical in it's nature. So the scientists don't believe in the non-physical things the science is based on and the theists don't believe in science which actually proves there beliefs have some merit. It's just one big old bundle of mass confusion isn't it?, lol.
Regards
AC
1 PERCENT OF THE UNIVERSE IS IN THE FOURTH DIMENSION THE REST 99 PERCENT IS
OF THE 5 TO THE ELEVENTH DIMENTIONS. THE SCIENTIST KEEP TRYING TO GET THE FUSION REACTOR GOING
THEY ARE WASTING THEIR TIME THE BEST AND MOST ENERGY IS FOUND IN MANIPULATING ETHER.
MAYBE OFF TOPIC.
I am not and never have been comfortable with Einsteinian gravity explanations. The very phrase
"space time" doesn't sit well with me at all, curved space, other language as well.
What ever.
Ether, Aether are not complete or well developed theories either ?
Quantization and a couple of hundred "particles" later and we have considerable
predictability in some areas. Einstein said "God doesn't play with dice", but probabilities
are the best we have come up with in most of this arena.
I don't know that it should all be called a mess. Maybe a well organized mess ?
We are not served best by separating the two theories
But rather by combining them.
For it is in fact - the properties aether which defines the value of c
5th dimensional mathematics
smoky2
QuoteWe are not served best by separating the two theories
But rather by combining them.
I would agree, as both are an attempt to describe the same thing from a different perspective.
The problem revolves around the fact that dark energy/matter, GR and the Aether theories attempt to describe something invisible to us we cannot measure. We can measure the effects but we cannot measure the thing producing the effects as is often the case. To be more precise we can measure the effects of the Primary Fields (Electric, Magnetic, Gravic) and Inertia but we still do not know what they are.
Most problems also revolve around inner and outer space where what happens on very small or large scales continues to elude us. The simple answer is we still don't know and what we do know tends to contradict itself on many levels.
QuoteFor it is in fact - the properties aether which defines the value of c
Therein lies the problem and it depends on our perspective. Does the Aether really define the speed of light or is it ...
1)A property of the particle(s).
2)A property of the fields of the particle(s).
3)An interaction between the particle(s) fields and external fields.
4)A complex interaction relating to the particle(s), it's fields and any external fields.
5)An even more complex interaction relating to few of the above and something we have yet to understand such as a new field.
This quote comes to mind...
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so." ― Mark Twain
In my opinion the supposed limitation on velocity we equate with the speed of light is simply a lack of understanding. It's very similar to the mistakes made when some theorized that man cannot fly through the air, break the sound barrier or fly through space to the moon.
For example, I see no limitation on any velocity and it has little to do with the speed of light. The only limitation on velocity relates to the energy required to increase the velocity of something and this energy is solely dependent on a property of mass we call inertia. As such the only real limitation is a lack of understanding relating to what inertia is on the most fundamental level. How do we know there is a limit when most don't even understand the thing called inertia which is supposedly causing the limit?.
In my opinion the breakdown in reasoning seems to revolve around the "properties" of something.
Property: a quality or trait belonging and especially peculiar to an individual or thing.
From my experience when someone calls something a "property" they actually mean they don't fully understand it. My reasoning for this is because if they actually understood it they would describe what it is and why it acts like it does versus simply labelling it and generalizing everything.
On a side note, it has been claimed that we cannot understand most advanced beings or intelligences because they do not generalize everything like we do. As we know, the less a person understands the more they generalize everything using bulk terminology. So we could presume an advanced intelligence would not generalize anything and describe it as it exists in reality. For example when they launched the Voyager deep space probe they used symbols on the golden record. They used symbols to depict the thing they were trying to describe because it's a universal language. Therefore we could conclude that the greater the intelligence the less generalization used and the more accurate and precise the description of things. Thus a truly advance race would probably use symbols and concepts to describe what they mean versus generalizations and often meaningless terms.
Regards
AC
I'm sorry Jerry.
That is possibly the saddest story i have heard.
How possibly could the thought to take the box have escaped you?
StOrY tImE
I wont give all the details (location) because I don't want to open a door that might bring
undesirable stuff.
Approximately 5 years ago, while standing on my front porch, a couple of hours after sunset.
A long way off, maybe 40 miles distant. Through a minor mountain pass and beyond
the next larger, though still of a moderate size, mountain range. A mother craft. Large, it had
to have been, to be visible at that kind of distance. Some where between cigar and blimp shape,
stationary and pulsating from dimly luminous to a moderately brighter luminosity. Slow even,
rhythmic pulses, not flashes, fading to dimmer then to brighter. Perhaps between 1 and 2 seconds
per cycle. It seemed almost organic.
I watched for maybe two or three minutes before the next thing began to happen. Not far from
the tip, the north end of the craft, a second much smaller craft appeared, pulsating in sync with
the larger craft. The smaller craft almost disappeared from sight when it dimmed and as it
moved slowly north of the mother ship.
When next, the ships or crafts, pulsed more brightly, a second light or craft had emerged from the
mother ship. So on it went until 5 of the small craft had emerged from the larger ship. Perfectly
spaced, all pulsing in sink. One craft emerging at a time, each during the dim phase of the pulsing.
It was like ballet.
To give some scale as to the size of the smaller craft in relationship to the mother ship, The smaller
ships were very much smaller than the large one. The evenly spaced string of small craft were
all together only perhaps one twentieth the length of the mother ship. The mother ship
must have been I think, quite large. Like, way bigger than a modern, ship of the sea, aircraft
carrier.
The five smaller craft continued to move in a northward direction until they were about
three time the length of the mother ship north. Then they stopped, pulsed several times
more, until they were fired upon from the ground's surface. The surface being, below
the line of my sight / behind the mountain ridge.
Some kind of lasers or maybe particle beam / lasers ? It was visible from my side view of it.
White in color, non diverging beams, and from two distinct points of origin below. They fired
only upon the 5 smaller crafts.
The smaller ships dodged the beams ! The shots fired were in rapid succession. There
were perhaps a dozen shots fired. Then all of the ships just vanished. Done, all over.
Yes it was over a military base. Was it just a light show, all just holographs, the military
practicing psych techniques ? I don't know, but I know, I saw it.
Floor
QuoteYes it was over a military base. Was it just a light show, all just holographs, the military
practicing psych techniques ? I don't know, but I know, I saw it.
The majority of rural people I know have all seen these craft and they tend to be more active in less populated areas.
Your story is pretty common, more so the denial thinking it could be holographs or psych techniques. You, I and most all my rural friends know what we saw, there is no denying it and yet the peer pressure from others remains. It's kind of strange isn't it, we all want proof to justify our reality then when we finally get it we try to deny it.
To be honest I don't think much of this advanced technology anymore and consider it normal. Is it so hard to believe there are people or beings much more intelligent and advanced than we are?. Most people try to deny advanced intelligence and don't even like to talk about it because it makes them feel afraid. However I tend to embrace it because it inspires me to do more and do better. It begs the question, do we want to live in fear or evolve and move forward?.
Our governments will never disclose the truth about UFO's because they cannot in my opinion. Imagine an ancient advanced race of beings telling mankind the majority of all our beliefs are not true. How do you think most of mankind would respond given what we see in the daily news?. It's a joke because we know most of mankind would rather declare war on said beings before they ever admitted they could be wrong about anything. It's a losing proposition any way we look at it...
However as I implied, just because the rest of the world chooses to remain in the dark ages does not mean we have to. Most of the successful free energy inventors I know sold there technology which is slowly being integrated into our society. They chose this path rather than disclosing it and being threatened or killed by angry mobs of psychotic people. We know this is true and there are mobs of psychotic people harassing and killing others simply because they chose to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic. Now imagine what they would do to us if we threatened there beliefs...
Regards
AC
We could go a little further on this point and break it down...
QuoteOur governments will never disclose the truth about UFO's because they cannot in my opinion. Imagine an ancient advanced race of beings telling mankind the majority of all our beliefs are not true. How do you think most of mankind would respond given what we see in the daily news?. It's a joke because we know most of mankind would rather declare war on said beings before they ever admitted they could be wrong about anything. It's a losing proposition any way we look at it...
Now imagine a large craft the size of a small town appears over one of our larger cities in broad daylight. The following scenarios could happen...
1)Like most primitive cultures we tend to shoot first and ask questions later when confronted with the unknown. In fact many countries are psychotic about guns and shooting stuff. However if this were to happen the result is debatable and it would be a mistake to assume they would become hostile in kind. Remember these are advanced beings and not primitive like us ergo the rational response would be to leave. I mean if we confront a bear and it threatens us we don't kill all the bears. We understand the bear is primitive, basically child like so we give it some room and leave the area. I suspect the same scenario would happen with us and this notion of our primitive behavior invoking a primitive response is kind of absurd.
2)We attempt to communicate and share knowledge. This is also problematic because we are primitive and tend to weaponize technology. Were infatuated with weapons and guns because were afraid. We also believe in all kinds of imaginary or magical things which have no basis in reality. So what happens when primitive people are told what they believe is not true?... point 1. We know what happens and it's starts with disagreement, then hostility and often ends in violence.
3)The most likely response is panic and mayhem. When confronted with a stressful situation and unknows 90% of people panic and start screaming or go into shock. Oh we all think we have it under control, then something happens and everyone loses there shit. We have all seen it and it's pointless to even try to deny it. Personally, I have seen more large grown men turn white, panic and even start crying than I care to admit. So this notion that were all responsible adults and act as such is simply an urban myth. If were going to have a rational conversation on what would actually happen in reality then we need to start being honest with ourselves.
Personally I see no good outcome if the contact scenario were to happen for all the reasons above. I understand we all think very highly of ourselves and our beliefs but it's not reflected in reality by our actions. Try throwing a firecracker into a crowd and see what happens. Rather than question what the sound actually was, where it came from or the correct response it always turns into a cattle stampede. Unfortunately that is the reality we live in and we can see it play out in the news every day. I think we have all the proof we need as to what would happen in reality...
Regards
AC
Little off topic, but i also saw one. In the mid 90's,
small backwoods town in Ga.
Classic 'flying saucer' type, about 300-ft in diameter.
We were underneath it, as it hovered 160-180ft in the air.
(just above the trees which were ~130ft tall)
Larger than the cul de sac it hovered over.
Silent, slow drifting, as it crept away out of sight
Quote from: onepower on October 08, 2021, 01:01:38 PM
Your story is pretty common, more so the denial thinking it could be holographs or psych techniques. You, I and most all my rural friends know what we saw, there is no denying it and yet the peer pressure from others remains. It's kind of strange isn't it, we all want proof to justify our reality then when we finally get it we try to deny it.
Uh, I'm not denying anything.
smoky2
QuoteLittle off topic, but i also saw one. In the mid 90's,
small backwoods town in Ga.
Classic 'flying saucer' type, about 300-ft in diameter.
We were underneath it, as it hovered 160-180ft in the air.
(just above the trees which were ~130ft tall)
Larger than the cul de sac it hovered over.
Silent, slow drifting, as it crept away out of sight
It doesn't surprise me and the more we start talking with other people the more people usually come forward. I suspect that 80% of the people I know from where I grew up have seen a UFO. They just don't feel like talking about it unless it comes up in a conversation they feel comfortable in.
Regards
AC