Using a Meyers splitter to create a water air pump to raise water up a pipe into the air first before any other use could create a over unity effect.water air pumps use air or any gas to raise water with a Meyer unit ive seen one that used 12watts to create 6 LD a minute HHO .now pipe that into a 10 ft or 20 ft or off a boat to any depth and it will rise the water to the same height in the air .if I'm remembering right ?.by creating the gas under the water your not pushing anything just harvesting the effect of the buoyancy . using a water wheel or water ramp which is water wheel like a escalator going down instead of steps buckets full of water going down . you could harvest that energy before you run a fuel cell or a generator .you could go deep in a lake or ocean .but on land you might need a well or a tall large pipe .even a ten ft drop is power not used before.
JIMBO MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILLY. STILL
CATCHING THOSE BIG TUNA OFF EDEN NSW/ VICTORIA. GREAT
SUPER IDEA I MIGHT JUST PATENT IT MYSELF.
Quote from: jimbo on December 24, 2021, 11:01:16 PM
Using a Meyers splitter to create a water air pump to raise water up a pipe into the air first before any other use could create a over unity effect.water air pumps use air or any gas to raise water with a Meyer unit ive seen one that used 12watts to create 6 LD a minute HHO .now pipe that into a 10 ft or 20 ft or off a boat to any depth and it will rise the water to the same height in the air .if I'm remembering right ?.by creating the gas under the water your not pushing anything just harvesting the effect of the buoyancy . using a water wheel or water ramp which is water wheel like a escalator going down instead of steps buckets full of water going down . you could harvest that energy before you run a fuel cell or a generator .you could go deep in a lake or ocean .but on land you might need a well or a tall large pipe .even a ten ft drop is power not used before.
Very cool ideas.
As far as I have been able to discover, generation of HHO under pressure can increase
the efficiency of energy use. This has been utilized to some degree already. There are
maybe three or four topics here at the O.U. forum along these lines.
Electrolysis will build up pressure if done in a sealed container.
I have looked for, but never found detailed information as to how much this can affect
the efficiency of the electric power input to gas volume output, except in the context of
takeing advantage of this to pressurize the gases instead of expending power to
run a gas compressor after the electrolysis.
The question remains for me, can this give O.U. ?
Go Jimbo!
You've found a practical method of extracting
the phase-change pressure!
Merry x-mas
As mentioned above, several threads have been devoted towards
accomplishing this, what you seem to have made a very simple process!
Quote from: Floor on December 25, 2021, 10:44:26 AM
Very cool ideas.
The question remains for me, can this give O.U. ?
The question, put clearly:
Does the energy quotient of the phase change pressure differential
account for more than the electrical/heat losses
of the electrolysis/fuel cell cycle, to achieve more than 100% total efficiency?
E= mgh of the water pumped by this process.
Simple experiments can give the answer.
Think about the modified Heron's Fountain
(device from Etidorpha)
A closed vessel of water with an air chamber above and a vertical straw out the top
Gravitational potential can be extracted from the height change,
water self-fed back into the pressure chamber can evacuate the gasses
at 1-ATM
This would still use the gas for a fuel cell or generator . and down deep the bubbles would be smaller but expand coming up .pushing better .at 6 liter a minute its around 13 + pounds .going 10 ft up is and extracting the fall is a respectable amount of energy.or going 30 ft up even more .running 24/7/365 it could keep the lights on .plus