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Title: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 24, 2022, 10:56:35 PM
Hello All,

I'm doing a series on vapor carburetors and other technology to get the most fuel efficiency for every engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsVmwFHxwE


Tom
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: ramset on April 26, 2022, 10:17:24 AM
Sir
Thank you for revisiting this , it seems there is definitely something to learn here !


And our planet desperately needs alternatives while we transition !


I have heard water or water mist ( perhaps you have mentioned this ) needs more investigation in ICE ( internal combustion engine) applications!


Thanks for sharing
Respectfully
Chet K
Edit (this edit was done after Floor comment below
Ps
I had very recently (yesterday) heard through an associate of ours
That a man has run "ICE " on 1% fuel and 99%water /atmosphere
And (this is not idling for brief periods) At power_ "while driving"!
Tom,
I know if any of this is true , you are definitely the guy to do it here ( at this time ) !
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: Floor on April 26, 2022, 10:24:40 AM
Agree...

yes please
and
thank you !
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: truesearch on April 26, 2022, 11:15:10 AM
@TommyReed


I'm looking forward to what you have to share on this topic.

Related to it I found the following article interesting ~ especially the claim that "carb" engine produced more power than an "EFI" engine:
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/why-carburetors-are-making-a-comeback-178386.html (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/why-carburetors-are-making-a-comeback-178386.html)
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 26, 2022, 05:50:17 PM
Hello all,
I did some research on gasoline expansion.

How much does 1 gallon of gasoline displace as a vapor?
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Briefly, the saturated vapor volume of an average gallon of liquid gasoline when fully evaporated is 160.4 gallons of vapor at 60° F and sea level.

Vapor volume of a liquid is the number of cubic feet of vapor resulting from the complete evaporation of the liquid. The vapor volume depends on parameters of density, temperature, pressure and molecular weight which is affected by the variety of formulas for gasoline that is comprised of a wide range of hydrocarbons.

Several approaches are available to solve this problem. One is shown below.


Using a common industrial formula:

one liquid gallon = [(8.31) x (SG) x (387 cu ft)] / (MW)


Where:

8.31 = pounds in gallon of water

SG = specific gravity of liquid being vaporized

387 = At standard conditions, one pound-molecular weight of a material will evaporate to fill 387 cubic feet of space.

MW= molecular weight of liquid being vaporized


Then using the approximate gasoline constants:

one liquid gallon of gasoline = [(8.31 pounds in a gallon of water) x (.70 approx. specific gravity of gasoline) x (387 cu ft)] / (105 molecular weight of average gasoline)

= 21.4 cubic feet of vapor volume


There is 7.481 U.S. gallons in one cubic foot.

So:

one liquid gallon of gasoline = (21.4 cubic feet) x (7.481)

= 160.4 gallons of saturated gasoline vapor


The vapor volume will vary based on the specific formulation of gasoline, pressure, and temperature.

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Is this answer is for liquid gasoline to vapor 1:160?

Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 26, 2022, 11:03:12 PM
Hi All,

Update on the vapor carburetor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1ezipu2buE
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: ramset on April 27, 2022, 10:15:14 AM
All the proper ideas for a thorough investigation!!
Love your path on investigating phase changes (water) !


Tremendous gratitude,
Chet K
Ps
It is perhaps odd that vapor change is not documented
in BTU values (I can find no data on gasoline vapor ,yet it is
a phase change of 160 times ?from liquid to gas


And from my perspective that seems remarkable (the data void)




Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 27, 2022, 12:47:05 PM
Hi All,

Cheap injector tester.
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 27, 2022, 05:39:08 PM
Hi all,

Got some parts in and ready to program a special program for the water splitter design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tWkSBTYdY
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 27, 2022, 07:39:17 PM
Quote from: seychelles on April 27, 2022, 10:42:09 AM
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on April 28, 2022, 10:44:03 AM
Quote from: TommeyReed on April 27, 2022, 07:39:17 PM
Quote from: seychelles on April 27, 2022, 10:42:09 AM

I moved this series to my Tommey Reed T-R-Labs forum.
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on May 01, 2022, 02:44:03 AM
Hi All,

new update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdG2myCWw2k&t=15s
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on May 02, 2022, 02:29:49 PM
Hello All,

New update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IE8g-crLZ8
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on May 02, 2022, 06:16:54 PM
Hello All,

This is a test on the hydrogen reactor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSxbz_6BMO4
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: hartiberlin on May 04, 2022, 05:16:19 AM
Try to electrolyse some water - citron acid. It will give you a C2H6 Ethan gas, which burns really slow and more like propane gas..

And as Citron Acid is pretty cheap that will be ideal. Have a look at this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTue3MVrOY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xTue3MVrOY)

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: e2matrix on May 04, 2022, 01:11:17 PM
citron acid = citric acid? 
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on May 04, 2022, 03:18:06 PM
Hello All,

Thank you for some input on different ways to make flammable gas with electrolysis.

I have many plans on doing just that.

Tom
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on May 04, 2022, 04:46:30 PM
Hello All,

This is another test to see how much pressure can be generated from the exhaust.

Is it flammable?

Is there Co2 being stored?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y3ypqaEIOI
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: kolbacict on May 05, 2022, 02:00:48 AM
Quote from: e2matrix on May 04, 2022, 01:11:17 PM
citron acid = citric acid?
yes. :)
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: TommeyReed on May 05, 2022, 06:45:41 AM
Hello All,

This citric acid is mixed with distill water?

What ratio1:1000 parts per volume?

Tom
Title: Re: Vapor Carburetor Series
Post by: ramset on May 05, 2022, 08:52:08 AM

forwarded info
"Full saturation of citric acid in water, or at least 20 Grams in 100 Milliliters of water..."


Also note
I am making progress on injector for Sam Leach claim
20 ppm lithium nitrate distilled water at 500 psi
Runs in ICE
Should have injector for you next week !