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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=httesxfbadw
Dr. Guy Mcpherson Predicts Human Extinction by 2030

This video is a little out there but makes a few relevant points...

1)The wealthy only care about themselves and refuse to change despite the fake PR there peddling. They want the poorest who can hardly afford to change to do all the hard work while they enjoy the benefits. People don't get rich by working hard that's bs, most poorer people work much harder. They get rich from there parents, not paying any taxes and by making others do all the hard work and paying them a fraction of what there worth. Unfortunately the wealthy have probably killed themselves, there families and most others through there own greed and inaction.

2)In many respects all the real damage has already been done over the last 100 years. Overpopulation, over consumption, global warming/severe weather, massive pollution, deforestation, burning fossil fuels etc.. As history has shown all past civilizations reached a tipping point then collapsed rapidly. This is also how nature works and the damage builds up slowly to a tipping point then the ecological systems collapse rapidly.

For example, https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR2010090302302.html

QuoteBut scientists now believe that instead of stone-age tribes, like the groups that occasionally emerge from the forest today, the Indians who inhabited the Amazon centuries ago numbered as many as 20 million, far more people than live here today.

The data suggest the whole amazon civilization was wiped out in less than 50 years due to a domino effect of disease and starvation.

As we learned from Covid, nobody is prepared and what amounts to a bad flu overwhelmed all the health care systems and almost shut down the global economy. We need to be more realistic and understand free energy doesn't solve our biggest problems. It does not solve overpopulation, disease, unrestrained greed/consumption/pollution or deforestation. The fact remains that the generation currently in power created this mess and they have neither the intelligence or the willpower to fix it. So let's not kid ourselves we all know where this is headed and why.

AC

More evidence suggesting a collapse...
https://nypost.com/2022/12/31/elon-musk-becomes-first-person-ever-to-lose-200-billion/
Elon Musk becomes first person ever to lose $200 billion

Elon musk was never the smartest man in the room, that's bs. Apparently like trump his daddy gave him millions in tax free money to start up his business. Even Musk admitted he took some big chances, got lucky and it worked out.

However we could ask how it's even possible to lose 200 billion?.

Well it isn't possible and the money was never actually his to lose. Apparently Musk over valuated his businesses through clever PR and took stock options so he pays zero taxes. He pays zero tax because like most psychotic wealthy people he probably free loaded off all the businesses and took no taxable wages. So his wealth was imaginary and the moment he tried to take some money out he was taxed and the stock started free falling. The stock crashed because when a CEO starts selling off stock most others panic and follow suit.

In effect this free loading off corporations, paying zero taxes and leveraging imaginary wealth to generate more wealth is a giant scam. Yet this scam is how a bunch of self-entitled freeloading tax dodgers, the 1%, came to posses over 90% of the worlds wealth.

It works so long as the poor remain ignorant to this scam and the bubble keeps growing. However as we know every bubble bursts and we may be seeing the start of a massive sell off. Of course, now many of these scam artists are talking about cryptocurrency. Moving money off shore, laundering it into crypto then pumping and dumping it to generate even more imaginary wealth at the expense of others with real currency. It's just one big shit show and one has to wonder how long it will last or be tolerated?.

AC

Quote from: onepower on January 13, 2023, 03:12:17 AM

Elon Musk becomes first person ever to lose $200 billion

It doesn't matter.
Losing only matters if you can't afford to lose

Wars, diseases, births and deaths, ups and downs, earthquakes, floods, famines, hurricanes, volcanoes etc., are not new for this earth. They are happening since the time when man appeared on earth.  Wise people make use of their life between  birth and death to attain salvation.

There is such an aphorism: "If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans."

While in one part of the world "Beach season", in another part "hurricanes demolish cities".
Everything is relative, the coming crisis (the Chinese economy is a soap bubble due to the construction loan program) will affect many, but this is not the end, there will be new decisions and new actions.
All crises pass, some get poorer, others develop: there is no empty space!

We should do the best we can for this world and the next generation (s?)
For as long as we can !



That's why we are here!( mission statement)
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Many past generations have felt they were the last ...
And today a very big machine runs a revenue stream attached to fear mongering and doom and gloom !

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/12/exxon-climate-change-global-warming-research
Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s

QuoteA new study, however, has made clear that Exxon's scientists were uncannily accurate in their projections from the 1970s onwards, predicting an upward curve of global temperatures and carbon dioxide emissions that is close to matching what actually occurred as the world heated up at a pace not seen in millions of years.

It begs the question, what kind of a sadistic monster would continue doing something they know could kill billions of people in the future?. All these oil companies knew damn well global warming was real and they lied to everyone. These clowns may not pay but there grandchildren will.

AC

Hello Everyone,


Basically what's going on with the thinking of these people in high places is they understand that what the scriptures say will come to pass but they have taken great effort to make sure you will more than likely never hear of this information as they removed these books from the scriptures.
Now I have done the math on just the cities and counting the cities now on the planet only in 2023 when this happens there are going to be 40 million survivors and if I was to guesstimate on the total worlds population there will be around 50 million people left on the planet after this event. So, from a current population of around 8 billion people to just 50 million is what these people already know to be true which is why they do what they do knowing what they are doing is harming all life on the planet.
Now I know many of you reading this don't believe in the scriptures and as such will never move to actually watch this video but since there are some of you that will I will go ahead and post it so that those that want to know the truth can do so: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_UgEBla2OI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_UgEBla2OI)[/size] Now once you watch this video you too will know just what's being planned by the creator of this world for humanity.


Those in high places think they can beat the system and have built well designed bunkers, seed store houses, and much more in the aim to not die when this happens. But they put out books that lie to you so that you simply do not know what's the reason why they are making all of these preparations building all of these well designed bug out places. The main problem is no man knows when this is going to happen but only knows that one day it will happen.

Quote from: h20power on January 15, 2023, 10:46:27 AM


Those in high places think they can beat the system and have built well designed bunkers, seed store houses, and much more in the aim to not die when this happens.

But they are already dead. The fact that they walk, eat and talk does not mean that they are life. :P

Quote from: h20power on January 15, 2023, 10:46:27 AM

Now I know many of you reading this don't believe in the scriptures and as such will never move to actually watch this video but since there are some of you that will I will go ahead and post it so that those that want to know the truth can do so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_UgEBla2OI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_UgEBla2OI)

If that is "the truth", then please providew proof.
The bible is a book with writing in it. That's all. If you wish to berlieve it, that is fine but please don't make out that it is truth without providing the necessary proof.

Quote from: Paul-R on January 15, 2023, 04:42:46 PM
If that is "the truth", then please providew proof.
The bible is a book with writing in it. That's all. If you wish to berlieve it, that is fine but please don't make out that it is truth without providing the necessary proof.

What proof do you require? They found the Ark just where the scriptures said it came to rest: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2awaxy-KLQI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQwfU7DvUyE)[/size] The problem is the changes made to the scriptures, by the Romans and other Europeans needs to be undone as they "Transliterated" the scriptures. Most don't know that word is a word of action meaning they changed things as basically a group of people gave themselves the authority to make changes to anyone's history they came across as that is what "Transliterated" actually means as it has nothing to do with translating anything. They both added to the scriptures and took away from it. The Cepher in which I carry has 87 books in it but the Bible only has 66 books in it, and to prove a point the Bible these fools gave to the slaves only had 32 books in it. The Cepher has undone a lot of their meddling with the history of the Israelite people (Negros).


Did you ever watch the movie "Roots?" If you did you got to see someone get "Transliterated" as when they changed Kunta Kinte's name to Toby he was transliterated as they weren't about to allow these people to give reverence to their ancestors or phrases to their God YAH.


Even with these findings I have shared with you I'd be willing to bet you still will find away to not believe the truth's that I've just shared with you and since you willingly show no love for the truth the creator of all things Yahweh will send you a strong delusion so that you will believe a lie. The way all of this belief stuff works is right now we all have free will and can believe in what ever we wish to believe in but in the end when you pass away guess what passes away with you? Free will as it is stated heaven and earth shall pass away but his word will still remain, thus in the end all will be forced to believe but at that time it will be too late to do anything about their fiery fate.

Noah's arc is funny...

Quote from: h20power on January 15, 2023, 08:23:26 PM

What proof do you require?

You have presented the claims. It is up to you to substantiate them with proof.

Quote from: Paul-R on January 16, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
You have presented the claims. It is up to you to substantiate them with proof.

I see. I take it the video of proof I posted is just too long for you to view, correct? In any case what I said earlier applies as right now we all have free will to believe in whatever we want to believe. But know in the end when we are done with these bodies free will will also be gone as all that will be left is the words of our creator.
For the most part I run around telling people to burn the "Bible" as it's purpose was to make my people forget just who they were as a people which is part of the punishments for the sins of our forefathers for not keeping their end of the blood covenant that was made with the creator of all things. The creator allowed them, and more than likely put it in our enemies hearts, to make changes to the scriptures and then hand it back to us after they removed us from our very own history replacing us with a people they made up out of thin air. The duration of these curses was 400 years and time's up and as a people we are starting to wake up in groves to the truth of our heritage.
The "Cepher" has put things back to the way they are supposed to be taking out most of the enemies of Israel's meddling with our history. Being an Israelite is a bloodline as we are from the twelve sons of Israel who's former name was Ya'aqov. He is the son of Isaac, who is the son of Abraham, who is the son of Shem, who is the son of Noah. So as you should be able to see this is a bloodline not a belief system when it comes to my people. One thing I will make clear is the creator never gave man any religion as all that was given unto man was his laws, statues, and commandments to follow and keep. How I awoke the truth was learning that the letter "J" was invented in 1478 as that started me down the path that opened my eyes to the truth.


Anyway I won't bore you with any more truths of what's happening in the world today from a scriptural perspective, but just know that the technology I am working on is also in the scriptures and from the looks of it I am one of a very small few that understands how it works and of those small few the only one that is actually building the technology, and I am a Israelite by blood. Coincidence?

     Epidemics, floods, instability .... Modern technologies allow to solve it .

            And now you are traveling on a yacht far from civilization, being in great company.

     If you cannot or do not want to solve all the complex problems of life, there is no problem.
        You can ask Heaven for help and maybe beautiful Angels will come to you and solve all problems .     :)  :)  :)
                                                                                                                                  picture in attachment

There is a more rational explanation...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#Demographic_dynamics

QuoteModels of societal response
According to Joseph Tainter (1990), too many scholars offer facile explanations of societal collapse by assuming one or more of the following three models in the face of collapse:

1) The Dinosaur, a large-scale society in which resources are being depleted at an exponential rate, but nothing is done to rectify the problem because the ruling elite are unwilling or unable to adapt to those resources' reduced availability. In this type of society, rulers tend to oppose any solutions that diverge from their present course of action but favor intensification and commit an increasing number of resources to their present plans, projects, and social institutions.

2) The Runaway Train, a society whose continuing function depends on constant growth (cf. Frederick Jackson Turner's Frontier Thesis). This type of society, based almost exclusively on acquisition (such as pillaging or exploitation), cannot be sustained indefinitely. The Assyrian, Roman and Mongol Empires, for example, all fractured and collapsed when no new conquests could be achieved.

3) The House of Cards, a society that has grown to be so large and include so many complex social institutions that it is inherently unstable and prone to collapse. This type of society has been seen with particular frequency among Eastern Bloc and other communist nations, in which all social organizations are arms of the government or ruling party, such that the government must either stifle association wholesale (encouraging dissent and subversion) or exercise less authority than it asserts (undermining its legitimacy in the public eye).

Our present collapse may be due to a combination of events...
1)Natural disasters/climate change due to overpopulation/over consumption and/or pollution.
2)Mass migration from poverty leads to economic depression and internal strife.
3)Disease outbreaks, overpopulation increases contact/mutation and the spread of diseases.
4)Demographic dynamics, 80% of current jobs are being replaced by AI and automation.
More important the older generation is incapable of change and won't allow it which prevents progress. They cling to old and outdated false beliefs, science and technology.

As the story goes, every past civilization falsely believed they were superior and nothing would happen but it always did. The proof is that every civilization to date has failed and the facts speak for themselves.

AC

Quote from: h20power on January 16, 2023, 12:37:43 PM

...we all have free will to believe in whatever we want to believe.

Correct.

All the rest is "Bible Bashing" and has no place in this forum.

H2opower

Quote...we all have free will to believe in whatever we want to believe.

I think Ricky Garvais said it best...
"You have the right to believe in what you want, I have the right to believe it's ridiculous".

To be clear, nobody claimed any person cannot believe what they want however they are not free to believe or judge others without consequences. It begs the question, if a theist is free to promote there beliefs and bash atheists why are atheists not free to criticize them for it?.

It seems a little hypocritical doesn't it and yet we see this all the time. Here's a clue, if you do not want to be criticized stop criticizing others.

PaulR

QuoteCorrect.
All the rest is "Bible Bashing" and has no place in this forum.

By the same token all this atheist bashing has no place either. Do not judge or you to will be judged in the same way by the same measure.

AC

...

If people cannot cope with survival on earth,
                        then nature will quickly fill the vacated niche with more responsible residents.

      There is some element of calm and harmony in this .....   :)

Quote from: BorisKrabow on January 17, 2023, 07:01:06 AM
If people cannot cope with survival on earth,
                        then nature will quickly fill the vacated niche with more responsible residents.

      There is some element of calm and harmony in this .....   :)

Yes.  I also think "survival" is overrated.  There's nothing wrong with new forms of life taking the reigns and trying their hand at living, while the old withers away.  Nature is change.  It will never find absolute balance in its form.  Its balance function is change.  I suspect nature is attempting to find all possibilities and will never settle on any final solution.  Your comfort in all this is that you were born to be uncomfortable.  Get used to it.   ;)

Quote from: onepower on January 14, 2023, 11:38:34 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/12/exxon-climate-change-global-warming-research (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/12/exxon-climate-change-global-warming-research)
Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s

It begs the question, what kind of a sadistic monster would continue doing something they know could kill billions of people in the future?. All these oil companies knew damn well global warming was real and they lied to everyone. These clowns may not pay but there grandchildren will.

AC

Sadistic monster has nothing to do with that.
Prostitution is not limited too .
We all are selling ourselves for money, and the only difference is that we all think we are doing nothing wrong. The prediction - Possibility of crisis,  in the sunny day  doesn't look apocalyptic yet for average worker of oil company,
Sadistic pleasure needs to be satisfying  final expression of power and control over their victims.
And change of climate takes too much of time to get such pleasure.

So till it is not too late, you work for the boss you don't like doing a job you don't like because you don't want to lose the money,
Your boss  doesn't have a much choice too .
Slaughterhouse owner son may hate killing the animals, while his father  might think he's doing nothing wrong,
or even take pleasure from it .

So there is no cure for humanity unless everybody starts to feel effects of global warming.
intensity of protests around the word is what makes the change - the outcome is not guaranteed!!
But that may come too late.
This is a human animal nature.


Wesley

Quote from: Paul-R on January 15, 2023, 04:42:46 PM
If that is "the truth", then please provide the proof.
The bible is a book with writing in it. That's all.
//But please don't make out that it is truth without providing the necessary proof.

correct.
Wesley

Quote from: h20power on January 15, 2023, 08:23:26 PM
What proof do you require? They found the Ark just where the scriptures said

This is 21st century.
you have the same organs like other mammals.
you have two eyes like most of the  creatures - not mammals.
you are eating, processing food and removing  it from your body like most of the creatures.
you are likely a mammal cannibal eating other mammals , but often you kill for pleasure (hunters).

but you want to feel special!!!
priests - wants to make money and their living on making you special!!!
In the time of Romans nobody knew how to write and read, there was no paper.
-literacy in Roman Empire was 15%  the-archaeology-of-roman-literature (https://www.berksarch.co.uk/index.php/the-archaeology-of-roman-literature/#:~:text=Literacy%20is%20related%20to%20power%20and%20identity%3B%20it,place%20and%20individual%20ability.%20Papyrus%20scroll%20from%20Herculaneum)__

Some priest writes on paper based on a story given to him from  father to son
and thousands years later  you take it for granted.

Basic for any religion is:
-fears: the fear of death, the fear of the destructive forces of nature, and fear associated with suffering and the physical demands of life.
-promise  you'll never see. as you must die first
-requirement: to act, the way you were told to act
-punishment: if you disobey what you were told (by religion) you going to be punished.
rejected, by other believers. Some countries will kill you or cut parts of your body for disobeying religion.
and of course when you will become entitled to benefits you are promised too you must be already dead,
So other still alive believers,  will not ask you to testify if it's true or not
Funny  thing is that if you have never heard about this particular religion  you not going to be punished and you'll get all benefits
as if you were the best believer -according to most of  rabbi  "Friar," "monks," "priests" However the  "imam khatib." may say that
you are already guilty despite of you not knowing... -  but that is likely characteristic  to some forms of Islam.

______________________________________________________________________________
I was writing that to you guys before but nobody ever responded.


Especially to:

Quoteyou are likely a mammal cannibal eating other mammals , but often you kill for pleasure (hunters) watching at dying animals in pain and blood

and:

QuoteYou don't have to eat meat to survive or have pleasurable life. But you prefer to kill and eat
Other mammals  it means such as  yourself.

and yet:

Quote from: onepower on January 14, 2023, 11:38:34 PM
what kind of a sadistic monster  could kill billions

sounds like a words of sadistic monster who was asking all around
-is there any sadistic monster out there apart from me?
Oh dear


And now you think you deserve better?
a poor human animal mammal making a religion
to feel even more discomfort in life
You are using all of civilization tools, including your toilet and computer but don't believe in science that gives it to you.
and science says: YOU ARE ANIMALS
and nothing more than that.
- instead  you like to believe i some  religions till it its a time to go to the doctor who may  tell you to replace
your heart   with one that comes  from pig.
so after that you can return  home and eat some pork while praying to your god.


It sounds like some  Sado maso (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=be32faf52ef82c67JmltdHM9MTY3NDAwMDAwMCZpZ3VpZD0zMjJlMGVkOS02M2RjLTZjYzUtM2VhNC0xYzQxNjI3NjZkNjYmaW5zaWQ9NTQxMg&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=322e0ed9-63dc-6cc5-3ea4-1c4162766d66&u=a1L3NlYXJjaD9xPVNhZG8rbWFzbyZGT1JNPUFXUkU&ntb=1).
isn't it?

_{opinion expressed is my own}
Wesley

 Does anyone of you  have Gods to respond to my post from above  scientifically?
Any one?
Wesley

Quote from: stivep on January 18, 2023, 01:29:03 PM
Does anyone of you  have Gods to respond to my post from above  scientifically?
Any one?

Unfortunately..
This is who you are.
This is your  animal nature.

And than some of you complain:
-why I didn't give you working FE...?
For what?
So you can kill more?
And  overpopulate this planet  making all damage possible?

by the way:
I'm vegetarian and my wife is Vegan
With all of that  food  I eat  pretty tasty and with pleasure.
It is more expensive, ...so what?
_{You want FE ? - convince me that I'm wrong or make it by yourself
it is doable, no god is needed for that. You have two sections in this forum describing it.
And it is 100% in agreement with  modern physics - no miracles}

Quite happy human animal , cleans earth from some trash left by other human animals.
- family  of this highly educated Christian girl, supported me very much financially since she was a  young student,
(almost quarter century younger) and as an adult she is married with me - the  Jew.
As the only child  of her father ,she wanted me, and as an adult she didn't change her mind.
https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=18 (https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=18)

We both respect and obey modern science and history of evolution
All rules are broken right?


_{can you - break your own box (not only  break out from your own box) some of you are trapped at, and see what is outside of it?
-so you can't fall back to it as  the box is totally destroyed.
can you ?}


Wesley

Quote from: stivep on January 18, 2023, 04:31:38 PM
by the way:
I'm vegetarian and my wife is Vegan

Congrats!  I have guided my household to veganism well over a decade ago. Not one morsel of animal product or suffering has or will enter my body on purpose till death.  I deleted my last comment because I know it is unpopular..

As humans, we have been assigned "Stewardship" over the weaker species on our planet as our test.  Will we show compassion and help the weaker species, or use them for our own advantage and fulfill our lusts?  Do we act as "Good Stewards" or do we act as we are above them, therefore entitled to take their lives and eat their flesh?

Truly, the measuring stick you will be judged with is nothing more than how you treat the weaker species you were given domination over.

It sickens me hearing about Global Warming and our Earth-Killing activities while BILLIONS of innocent animal deaths stem from the hand or wallets of men. There will NEVER be peace on Earth until we treat the innocent with compassion.

Just thinking how hypocritical we are.  Many men BEG for mercy from the one more powerful than us, as we DENY mercy to the wailing cow who we impregnated with a metal shaft, stole her baby to make veal, strap her to milking machines, then finally process her corpse to be eaten once she is no longer profitable.

But as long as we believe innocent sacrifice forgives sin, we get wisped straight to heaven~  YAY.... 

stivep

QuoteSadistic monster has nothing to do with that.
Prostitution is not limited too .
We all are selling ourselves for money, and the only difference is that we all think we are doing nothing wrong. The prediction - Possibility of crisis,  in the sunny day  doesn't look apocalyptic yet for average worker of oil company,

I wasn't implying all people or the average oil company worker is a monster. I claimed the people running these big oil companies who knew the pollution from there products could kill billions of other people due to global warming are monsters. It's simply mass genocide by another name, to basically eradicate people of less means in the name of power and profit.

Your "we are all selling ourselves for money" argument is also absurd implying an average person just trying to get by is the same as a billionaire CEO involved in mass genocide for profit. This is simply more of the twisted populist bandwagon fallacy and gaslighting the real victims. Your argument is the worst kind of delusion because your basically trying to argue those in power who committed mass genocide were the victim and the people they slaughtered asked for it.

I understand this relates to human nature I'm just saying if these leaders, wealthy people and CEO's want to act like a sadistic monster we should treat them as such. Many of these people tend to think and act on the same level as any other psychotic murderer or serial rapist so we should treat them as such. Not a big deal, most people judge others all the time.

AC

Response related to:

Quote from: onepower on January 19, 2023, 02:26:33 PM
: Any one  have Gods  to respond to it?
:)

from:
Wesley
Wesley's wife

Quote from: onepower on January 19, 2023, 02:26:33 PM
I wasn't implying all people or the average oil company worker is a monster.
I claimed the people running these big oil companies// are monsters.
It's simply mass genocide by another name, to basically eradicate people of less means in the name of power and profit.

Your "we are all selling ourselves for money" argument is also absurd implying an average person just trying to get by is the same as a billionaire CEO involved in mass genocide for profit. This is simply more of the twisted populist bandwagon fallacy and gaslighting the real victims. Your argument is the worst kind of delusion because your basically trying to argue those in power who committed mass genocide were the victim and the people they slaughtered asked for it.

I understand this relates to human nature I'm just saying if these leaders, wealthy people and CEO's want to act like a sadistic monster we should treat them as such. Many of these people tend to think and act on the same level as any other psychotic murderer or serial rapist so we should treat them as such. Not a big deal, most people judge others all the time.
AC

Thank you very much for your response "onepower"

__________________________________________________________________
Opinion from the position of you the human animal and mammal:
Wealthy in business prefer to make more money while they are carelessly worsening well-being and future of - the not wealthy whose   
comfort of life is often suffering " long time misfortune" disproportion, or poverty, and may eventually cause entire humanity  have no more choice in the future.
That is why,  we should act now before is to late  for people like you, and personally you.

You expressed nothing more than the typical postulate of communism.
Equal rights,- to the today and future of  these who want to criticize or even punish the wealthy according to  their own opinion.

QuoteQuote from: onepower on January 19, 2023, 08:26:33 PM (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg573435/#msg573435) Not a big deal, most people judge others all the time.

right?
The problem is that communism never worked out, collapsed and died, along with many communists who allowed some of them :

QuoteQuote from: onepower on January 19, 2023, 08:26:33 PM (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg573435/#msg573435) to think and act on the same level
as any other psychotic murderer or serial rapist so we should treat them as such.

Stalin, Beria, Hitler, or today's  dictators.

__________________________________________________________________
Opinion from the position of an animal and mammal:

We the mammals are victims of  a human mammal who keeps us for his pleasure as pets or in Zoo.
He is often giving us  inhuman conditions while performing  acts of cannibalism killing and eating  us even if this human animal is mammal too.
He doesn't have to eat meat  but he likes taste of our flesh and blood.

QuoteQuote from: onepower on January 19, 2023, 08:26:33 PM (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg573435/#msg573435) thinking and acting on the same level as any other
psychotic murderer or serial rapist so we should treat them as such.

Human animal the hunter is taking pleasure of watching us the  other mammals dying in blood and pain.
and he doesn't even need to eat us,  he want  to see us dying and he calls it a  sport.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Human Animal is even killing their own in wars for land he took from us - We where there first  when he was only Homo Erectus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_erectus
Human Animal is killing their own for disobeying his own regulations that are not unified and conflicting in between  globally.

Human animal - The horrible creature causing our own  end  along with his too due to damage he has done to the planet earth.
Free Energy that may cause overpopulation of these creatures will affect all living organisms on the planet earth very soon .


Any one  have Gods  to respond to it?
O yes ...  Human animal  the mammal has all organs we have, procreates exactly the same,
Hi There... How are  Ya  God...
How clever... God....??
The God  creator cares  about them too.
Why did you God create us the other mammals and rest of the creatures , and living organisms
a? .. hm?   :-\
For what?
For these sadistic creatures - mammals calling themselves the humans?

:) ?
Wesley
Wesley's Wife

interesting vid
https://youtu.be/R1p4UdVwY58

Quote from: alan on January 21, 2023, 08:14:56 AM
interesting vid
https://youtu.be/R1p4UdVwY58 (https://youtu.be/R1p4UdVwY58)

In any time including  Jesus time - the dominating religion used its population to fight
with other religions  less present in the region, and  provided answers to "everything."
benefiting wealthy, clergy, and  governments imposing  punishment as "wanted by God."

Today the 21 century science talks to 21 century population by mass media and social platforms.
Everything is verifiable, comparable,and questioned - shaking collapsing finances of struggling churches of all kinds.

The new yet clever way to make money is to support just and only the  word -"religion" - as God given .
what God? is not important.. as long as Darwin is condemned..
wow.. so clever...
no need to be a given priest,
no need to be pushed to send money to  Vatican,
no dogma, no 10 commandments ..
no need for physical building, parishioners,
no gas, water,  or electricity, insurance and property taxes  bills   
no accusations about sexual molestation of small boys and girls
no limitation by dogmas of given religion -you  girls, guys, bisexuals, transgenders, all Sodom and Gomorrah are welcome...
and now:
-ALL that MONEY IS not in  some institution but  in "my" own personal POCKET.. ALLELUIA ... ALLELUIA ...

So where is a secret, and how to become one?
-Even with muted  sound  played for only last 5 seconds
this  video "says" that what likely everyone from  any religion  want to hear.
https://youtu.be/R1p4UdVwY58?t=2108 (https://youtu.be/R1p4UdVwY58?t=2108)
And there is no need to be as good as Biophysicist Cornelius Hunter
In next comment I will  explain  what is "wrong"  or rather  how the need of money can manipulate the information to convince you..


_{opinion  expressed is  entirely my own.}
Wesley

https://evolutionnews.org/2019/01/genetics-and-epigenetics-new-problems-for-darwinism/

stivep

QuoteYou expressed nothing more than the typical postulate of communism.
Equal rights,- to the today and future of  these who want to criticize or even punish the wealthy according to  their own opinion.

So wanting to hold psychotic oil corporation CEO's to account for lying to the public and share holders about global warming is now communism?. Are you dense?, it's an act of fraud and it's criminal. Whenever any corporation misleads the public and shareholders about possible liability and/or damages this is a crime. It's criminal because the CEO's/corporations off loaded all the costs associated with there pollution, environmental damage, health care related sickness and death to the taxpayers.

However your nonsense is the kind of stupidity the populists and paid shills seem to be peddling. Equating bringing tax dodgers and criminals to justice with socialism/communism. No it's just criminal.

AC

Quote from: onepower on January 21, 2023, 12:34:56 PM
stivep
So wanting to hold psychotic oil corporation CEO's to account for lying to the public and share holders about global warming is now communism?. Are you dense?,
AC

You are absolutely right in your assumption. There is nothing wrong with that.
More than that - You were  right  in  your first comment too
It just happened that communism used exactly the same mechanism in the past and it collapsed.
My point was to look from the  very much never explored position of mammals at human animal who is criticizing
other human animals using exactly the same logic.

#1. if the mammal : user, abuser or killer, cannibal of other mammals, is complaining about other human animals behavior then why  didn't he look at himself in the first place.?
In a "human language" it would be:
-rapist has no rights to judge others - the rapists
-prostitute has no rights to judge prostitution unless it is a place like US Nevada  where she is legitimized valuable  and by that respected   member of society.

Because there is no country giving rights to rapists  - like   US Nevada is giving rights  to  prostitutes,
than from mammals point of view :if you are not vegan or vegetarian the point #1.applies personally to you/

_{opinion expressed is my own}
Wesley

stivep

QuoteIt just happened that communism used exactly the same mechanism in the past and it collapsed.
My point was to look from the  very much never explored position of mammals at human animal who is criticizing
other human animals using exactly the same logic.

#1. if the mammal : user, abuser or killer, cannibal of other mammals, is complaining about other human animals behavior then why  didn't he look at himself in the first place.?

This is a weak argument right out of the populist or communist playbook often referred to as gaslighting.

QuoteLying and distortion are the cornerstones of gaslighting behavior. Even when you know they are not telling the truth, they can be very convincing.
Blame-shifting is another common gaslighting tactic. Every discussion you have is somehow twisted to where you are to blame for something that occurred.

The lying/distortion is attempting to cast big oil corporations doing great harm as the victims and the persons calling them out as being at fault. This aspect of gaslighting is called blame shifting ie. "why didn't he look at himself in the first place". Well, because it wasn't me lying about global warming so I could continue to pollute killing countless people for profit it was the oil companies.

Quote-rapist has no rights to judge others - the rapists
-prostitute has no rights to judge prostitution unless it is a place like US Nevada  where she is legitimized valuable  and by that respected   member of society.

Nice touch, now your trying to push the pathetic narrative that those criticizing oil corporations could be seen in the same light as rapists. The old "were all guilty" play typical of most paid shills and populists.

So to recap, you seem to think the oil companies lying about global warming which could kill billions for profit are victims. Meanwhile those calling out the lying oil companies harm are the abusers on par with rapists. I can only conclude your either bat shit crazy or on some oil companies payroll.

AC

Quote from: onepower on January 21, 2023, 03:42:33 PM
This is a weak argument-//-referred to as gaslighting.

You didn't provide assignment  criteria other than your intuitiveness 
My point  was stated, -not to discuss its  strength !! or its populism but to respond to it .

Quote from: onepower on January 21, 2023, 03:42:33 PM
// attempting the cast big oil corporations doing great harm as the victims // is called   "blame shifting"//

-although  verywellmind.com page looks nice. "your" quoted phrase  comes from a source that uses wording
- not always accepted by professional medical field familiar to me,
Here is the list of  elements associated with gaslighting _{(- applied when  mutual understanding is important.)}
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gaslighting#gaslighting-examples (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gaslighting#gaslighting-examples)Countering:
Withholding:
Trivializing:
Denial:
Diverting:
Stereotyping:

We have problem  with communication and information exchange.:
Some human mammal  while  eating some pork  is yelling at oil and gas mammals  thinking that  he is their victim or future victim.
Some other human mammal needs heart replacement from  pig only to eat some pork some time after that.
From mammal stand point:
-human mammal  is user, abuser or killer, cannibal of other mammals, that are innocent victims of Human creature.
These are  mathematically countable, physically present  real facts  having nothing to do with  thinking or presuming
How sad is that  that some individuals  eating some pork  see it as  manipulation ....gaslighting.
So go and kill some more of them  right? what the fricken  pleasure  you got from that ..hunter  ?
Or open up another slaughterhouse!!!!
Did you ask yourself, - who from the mammals  has more rights to complain Mr human mammal animal?

:)
_{opinion expressed is my  own}
Wesley
Wesley's wife

If this guy (https://www.youtube.com/@DaneWigington/videos) is right about things, I wouldn't worry too much about eating anything, it will all be gone and likely soon.

Quote from: Dog-One on January 21, 2023, 07:19:35 PM
If this guy (https://www.youtube.com/@DaneWigington/videos) is right about things, I wouldn't worry too much about eating anything, it will all be gone and likely soon.

"Some" money maker, has  better life,  than no money maker.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_drought_manipulation_conspiracy_theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_drought_manipulation_conspiracy_theory)
"No worries" ..
Wesley

stivep

QuoteWe have problem  with communication and information exchange.:
Some human mammal  while  eating some pork  is yelling at oil and gas mammals  thinking that  he is their victim or future victim.
Some other human mammal needs heart replacement from  pig only to eat some pork some time after that.

My objection isn't so much oil and gas as it's simply a long term version of solar energy. We need this resource for now as we transition to cleaner forms of energy. What I object to is the compulsive lying, manipulation and harm done to others relating to the oil and gas industry. 

A better question is why do you and many others get triggered and feel so compelled to defend the oil industry?. Sure I need to fuel up my truck and heat my house but I'm not about to kiss there ass like you are or give them massive tax breaks.

QuoteDid you ask yourself, - who from the mammals  has more rights to complain Mr human mammal animal?

Why are you talking like a 6 year old?, are you on drugs or something?.

Quote from: onepower on January 21, 2023, 08:15:55 PM
stivep
My objection isn't so much oil and gas as it's simply a long term version of solar energy.
We need this resource for now as we transition to cleaner forms of energy.
What I object to is the compulsive lying, manipulation and harm done to others relating to the oil and gas industry. 

I agree 100%

Quote from: onepower on January 21, 2023, 08:15:55 PM
A better question is why do you and many others get triggered and feel so compelled to defend the oil industry?.
Sure I need to fuel up my truck and heat my house but I'm not about to kiss there ass like you are or give them massive tax breaks.

No I'm totally against  oil and gas and I support clean technologies.

Quote from: onepower on January 21, 2023, 08:15:55 PM
Why are you talking like a 6 year old?, are you on drugs or something?.

Unfortunately other forms  of expression simply didn't work :
I don't drink(-few glass of wine per year)  I think I was never drunk in my life or was I?... rather not..
I never used or touched or saw drugs !!!!!!!!!!!!!( I saw it in a movie)
Are you on drugs  or heavy drinker "onepower?" How many times? how does it feel?
I used to smoke. ~ 3 cigarettes per week but not every week and not for long.( occasionally even 6 in  one day)
I'm Vegetarian, my wife is Vegan,

A father  with some people similar to you while eating some tasty "young" food is asked a question  by 5 years old :
-what wrong this baby cow did,  so these people killed her..?
And in Ukraine  5 years old child  is asking :
-what  wrong this baby sister of mine did,  so these Russians killed her.?
And in Tbilisi  I asked myself a question:
-what wrong did I do, so these Russians attempted to kill me and Tariel in 2011?



thank you  floodrod:

Quote from: floodrod on January 18, 2023, 06:18:34 PM
Congrats!  I have guided my household to veganism well over a decade ago.
Just thinking how hypocritical we are. 

He understands  that, what  you seem to have problem with .

Wesley

Quote from: Dog-One on January 21, 2023, 07:19:35 PM
If this guy (https://www.youtube.com/@DaneWigington/videos) is right about things, I wouldn't worry too much about eating anything, it will all be gone and likely soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRPKPJR1k5Q
https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063-096545.pdf (https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063-096545.pdf) 
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/14/weather/cloud-seeding-weather-modification-wxn/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/14/weather/cloud-seeding-weather-modification-wxn/index.html)
I suppose it could be happening that they're dumping conducting material (like alu) in the air to make it conductive and heat it up with RF or HF scalar waves (A-potentials), just like Tesla had ideas for the ionosphere.
Why go vegan? https://www.drmcdougall.com/

Quote from: alan on January 22, 2023, 01:16:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRPKPJR1k5Q
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRPKPJR1k5Q)

no big deal. Subject to  separate discussion on my channel
Just because it is interesting  from physics stand point.
At worse you may lose your satellite services , so what? ..
Shooting  back to earth  by direct energy weapon from space is  a science fiction yet.
From time to time you may have some revelation like that:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/politics/us-investigating-mysterious-directed-energy-attack-white-house/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/politics/us-investigating-mysterious-directed-energy-attack-white-house/index.html)
US Special Forces should check  electrical bill of  houses around White House , but they decided to  make mass media happy instead.

You guys likely  in your majority don't understand : what is the level of danger of DEW, -,that  can start from  laughably unimportant but noticeable.. to the press. 
DEW - needs time, energy supply and  beam concentration ..  and physics is not friendly to use of it..that  is why Russians didn't use it
in Ukraine yet. 

Quote from: alan on January 22, 2023, 01:16:57 PMhttps://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063-096545.pdf (https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063-096545.pdf) 

the dreams in 1972 were interesting ... Not much of it, if ever become reality  of today.

Quote from: alan on January 22, 2023, 01:16:57 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/14/weather/cloud-seeding-weather-modification-wxn/index.html (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/14/weather/cloud-seeding-weather-modification-wxn/index.html)
I suppose it could be happening that they're dumping conducting material (like alu) in the air to make it conductive and heat it up with RF or HF scalar waves (A-potentials), just like Tesla had ideas for the ionosphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding
no big deal.

Quote from: alan on January 22, 2023, 01:16:57 PM
Why go vegan? https://www.drmcdougall.com/ (https://www.drmcdougall.com/)

Money makers .. don't bother ...

Wesley

Chemtrails were a nutjob conspiracy theory, now it is being admitted and confirmed but considered nothing special. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927569/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927569/)

McDougall is reliable, you judged it too soon.
This channel is interesting, it's about rf weapons, havana syndrome, pulsed sound weapons and a surveillance grid   
https://www.youtube.com/c/LookoutfaCharlie/videos (https://www.youtube.com/c/LookoutfaCharlie/videos)


All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Quote from: stivep on January 18, 2023, 04:31:38 PM
Quite happy human animal , cleans earth from some trash left by other human animals.
- family  of this highly educated Christian girl, supported me very much financially since she was a  young student,
(almost quarter century younger) and as an adult she is married with me - the  Jew.
As the only child  of her father ,she wanted me, and as an adult she didn't change her mind.
https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=18 (https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=18)

We both respect and obey modern science and history of evolution
All rules are broken right?


_{can you - break your own box (not only  break out from your own box) some of you are trapped at, and see what is outside of it?
-so you can't fall back to it as  the box is totally destroyed.
can you ?}


Wesley

She's smart , she's seeing and believing that Jesus Christ/Messiah suffered and died for the sin of the world and took it out of the way. Isaiah 53 of the tanakh prophesies about it.

alan

QuoteChemtrails were a nutjob conspiracy theory, now it is being admitted and confirmed but considered nothing special.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4927569/

It's possible to be right but for the wrong reasons.

Chemtrails have been around for a while and was used to try and modify the weather. However it could be to mitigate severe weather or other effects due to global warming. Were now seeing many hail storms/atmospheric rivers producing over a billion dollars of damage in one day which has the insurance industry worried. Here the insurance companies are paying cloud seeders to try and minimize the severity of hail storms before they hit big cities causing billions in damage. They were also trying to seed clouds to reflect solar radiation to try to prevent the record setting temperatures seen all over the planet.

For example, the town of Lytton in B.C Canada saw a record temperature of 46C in 2021 then promptly burned to the ground the next day due to a wildfire. It then saw another wildfire in 2022 which burned what they were rebuilding. Unfortunately this may become more common in the future.

It may be the people producing and testing chemtrails don't want us to know how bad global warming is so people don't panic.

QuoteMcDougall is reliable, you judged it too soon.
This channel is interesting, it's about rf weapons, havana syndrome, pulsed sound weapons and a surveillance grid   
https://www.youtube.com/c/LookoutfaCharlie/videos

Big brother was always watching but now more so big tech companies like youtube, twitter, facebook and google. There watching everything and selling our information to third parties. However from what I have heard they don't care about us or what we think. They want our information to fine tune there advertising so they can sell us more crap. All these social media companies make all there income from advertising. Nobody can go anywhere without being bombarded by advertisements 24/7.

So it is a conspiracy of sorts but there not out to get you only your wallet and everything revolves around money.

Quote from: alan on January 22, 2023, 03:38:44 PM
Chemtrails were a nutjob conspiracy theory, now it is being admitted and confirmed but considered nothing special. 
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

No my friend,
This is a humorous essay.
People often attaching All truth to " The Truth" as part of their own spirituality.
1. " The Truth", unlike an opinion, is not open to reasonable debate between physicist and believers.
2. If not encountered great opposition " The Truth" become obvious, like a nitrogen in the air. - you don't care how much of it is around. But you were told that is there.
3. Obviously, The Truth needs more defenders, such as you my friend,  to be visible as its popularity suffers now days, due to modern science advance.
4. " The Truth" face of "consensus" and "verifiability", refuse to kneel to the power of disagreement, causing its leaders  make less and less money on it.
5. Miracles become not verifiable, and are no longer advertised by " The Truth" that ended talking directly to the masses thousands years ago.
6. Question : Because  " The Truth" is a male  present as 3 in one (as Trinity) means  exists as three distinct Persons
    having definitely attribute of a  male    than:
    does this  entity have 3 penises or  they share one   in between 3 guys?
    I assume that you  alan may have no "balls" to respond exactly to this question ?

In physics  "The Truth"  is very much ignored as meaningless , not recognized or non existent.
Physics and modern science is based on facts, analysis, and models.

Russian Federation, used terror that First, was ridiculed. Second, it was violently opposed. Third, it was accepted as being self-evident.
-And as a result of it we have War in Ukraine.
Inquisition established by Pope Gregory IX c. 1232 for the suppression of heresy used the same mechanism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition)


Wesley

Ask your wife about the truth regarding the 'trinity'.  She looks like a nice woman. 
Tanakh also mentions the 3 members: Father, Word of God, Holy Spirit of God. Masons worship the gods of the obelisk.   

John 1 teaches: And the word of God was made flesh and tabernacled among his own, and his own received him not, and everyone wh receives him gave he power to become children of God.


The roman church persecuted everyone, especially christians and jews.

What they teach and the true meaning or two truly opposite things. Let's look at the Trinity..

They teach God has three parts which make up the Trinity. Those who believe that Christ died for their sins is endowed with some kind of holy Spirit from God which gives them protective armor. So every single Christian or believer thinks they are endowed with the holy Spirit. I call rubbish.

The holy Spirit is properly translated as the spirit of righteousness. Now ask yourself what is righteousness?

Righteousness is defined as someone who lives within their rights. To live outside your rights is obviously unrighteous..

Now what are your rights? Refer to the ten commandments which are basically divided into two main points. Treat other life forms like you want to be treated, and honor God.

You are given the right to life, just like every other creature that walks this earth. It is within your rights to live your life, but it is against your rights, or unrighteous, to cause pain misery suffering or death to other creatures for your own personal enjoyment or gain..

When a person has the spirit of righteousness, aka the holy Spirit, it means they truly want to live within their rights and not hurt other creatures or life forms. They will ask themselves before every meal or decision they must make whether their actions are going to impede, her, cause misery suffering or death to another life form unnecessarily. And they will base their decisions not on what is best for them, but what respects the rights of all life..

You have heard the holy Spirit convicts you of sin. This is the exact reason. When you start living life righteously, you evaluate your decisions before you do want to others and commit sins. You know in your heart it is wrong even before you do it, so you don't do it.

I believe not what I consider retarded teachings of some divine spirit that whips down into your body only if you believe the innocent sacrifice and the bloodshed washes your robes.

I could go on about Freemasons, gnostics, Essenes, and heretics in regards to the Roman killing of so-called Christians. But I'm afraid it will all fall on idle ears like always.

..

Quote from: floodrod on January 23, 2023, 10:21:27 AM
What they teach and the true meaning or two truly opposite things. Let's look at the Trinity..
//I call rubbish.
I believe not what I consider retarded teachings of some divine spirit.

Great comment. thank you.
___________________________________

Quote from: alan on January 23, 2023, 07:59:41 AM
Ask your wife about the truth regarding the 'trinity'.  She looks like a nice woman. 

She is definitely on the site of modern science now.
__________________________________________________
This is a humorous essay.

I was right predicting that You "alan" will not respond to my  question About "trinity"
Why it is stated that  "trinity" is male not female?
And because of it does this entity have  3 penises or just one?
Or may be it is a vaginal entity posing not only as one but as three male in one... for its own reason.
making itself a very much natural LGBT.?
I wonder how sexual fantasies of this entity looks like if any..?
- we have it... so it should  too - as we were made as a picture  of it, right?
_{Genesis 1:27  man was created in Godde's image}

So again do you have "balls" to respond precisely to  this male claim of trinity?
or you don't have "balls"  ready for that?

_{opinion expressed is my own ..}
Wesley

Who is the God of Israel to you, who made himself known as YHWH to his covenant people? 
Your 'understanding' of the trinity is based on roman catholicism, you need the word of God that was given to the jews to keep and preserve. This will teach us, even the Lord Jesus Christ says so about the tanankh or old testament/covenant. 

The birthright of the jews is (in) the tanakh, it explains why a jew is named jew, and israel is called israel, etcetc. The right of christians is Jesus Christ, believers in Christ are put in the birthright and blessing of Abraham through faith alone in the atonement.
What is a jew without the old testament or a christian without Jesus Christ?

Gen 25:26  And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them. 
Jacob, heel holder or supplanter

Gen 29:35  And she conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, Now will I praise the LORD: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing.
Judah, jehudim, jew: praised, celebrated. 


Gen 32:24  And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
Gen 32:25  And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
Gen 32:26  And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. 
Gen 32:27  And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. 
Gen 32:28  And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 
Gen 32:29  And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 

Israel, 'God Contended', 'Wrestles with God', 'Triumphant with God'. 

where'd you come from, where'd you go.   lol 

Trinity isn't in the bible, but this is: 
1Jn 5:7  For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

I don't understand your question or  intention, so I gave you some facts.

Quote from: alan on January 24, 2023, 07:31:24 AM
I don't understand your question or  intention, so I gave you some facts.

The base for action:
I assume you understand with all do respect to your spiritual and other values that:
-New York subway is accessible only to holders, of approved valid pass, ticket (- other animals have free ride)
-PhD in physics is given only to holders, of approved valid ticket called:(Ph.D - dissertation)
-Statement in based on models  physics :   states = makes facts known.
-Your spiritual state of mind is not used by Biology, Anthropology, History of Earth, however,
Archeologist may be interested why and how Inquisition persecuted your grand grand-pa. ?

The base for action is:
_{According to :
Genesis 1:27  man was created in Godde's image}


Avoiding questions, side kicking, doesn't make you respected part of conversation here,
Logical thinking-  implements reasonable solutions rather than acting solely on emotions.
You were ask :
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine  of god according to your dogma?
2. - male organs of God are the necessity for its Manlihood .So god may masturbate  physically too - including all function of his  organ. _{-concept of trinity  becomes more complicated.}
3. -  People use form : "holly shit" 
       since it is definitely stated that _{Genesis 1:27  man was created in Godde's image I'm interested how holly "shit" looks like, and what is made of?}
4. - It was Adam and Eve  and what ? Brother with sister?, father with  daughter? INCEST? But Dog with dog, _{also mammal} was OK  ? 
      How was it?  And God what?  didn't  oppose?..  O yea Sodom and Gomorrah  was  impossible - not enough humans yet to punish right?

I didn't disrespect spiritual values I only ask questions
Please provide answers to these questions can you?

Wesley

All of living creation is brought forth from a seed (except for microbes).  Spiritually we should be born of God's seed.

Luk 8:4  And when much people were gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
Luk 8:5  A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.
Luk 8:6  And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
Luk 8:7  And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.
Luk 8:8  And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Luk 8:11  Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
Luk 8:12  Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
Luk 8:13  They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
Luk 8:14  And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
Luk 8:15  But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

1Pe 1:23  Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Rom 1:20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21  Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22  Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23  And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
1Co 1:18  For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1Co 1:20  Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
1Co 1:21  For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1Co 1:22  For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
1Co 1:23  But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1Co 1:24  But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1Co 1:25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Quote from: alan on January 24, 2023, 12:36:47 PM
All of living creation is brought forth from a seed (except for microbes).  Spiritually we should be born of God's seed.
Luk 8:11 The seed is the word of God.
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Your response can't  pass even high school exam.
question invites the other person to share their own opinion e.g denying or admitting, interpreting.. - means providing  answer .
Precisely formulated by me questions  are expecting  your own answer where quoted text is used as a reference only.
You responded  with quotes  but Your answer is not present.
_{creating-strong-answers-conversation (https://englishwithkim.com/creating-strong-answers-conversation/#:~:text=The%20next%20essential%20element%20of%20a%20strong%20answer,so%20that%20you%20can%20find%20something%20in%20common.)}
My questions were numbered  for you to respond to them one by one.
Please use these numbers, to provide your own answer _{(with your own interpretation of quoted text,)} precisely to the point
Show me the  power of your brain...Show me your value as a contributor  to the discussion. What is your  limit on how high "you can fly" ?

Can you?

Wesley

1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine? 
Anzr: XY and XX chromosomes. 

Maybe chatGPT can answer your other questions.  ;D

Quote from: alan on January 24, 2023, 02:00:51 PM
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine? 
Anzr: XY and XX chromosomes. 

question was:
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine  of god according to your dogma?
Please respond to the question
Wesley

Is this the beginning of the end?

Based on the responses here possibly. Many would rather spend endless hours trying to convince others there present beliefs and opinions must be the right ones. To hold the status quo, whatever there's may be, but never moving forward beyond that and making progress.

This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.

Quote from: stivep on January 24, 2023, 02:06:53 PM
question was:
1. - what biological criteria applies to masculine not feminine  of god according to your dogma?
Please respond to the question
Wesley

Biology is a creation, and God is an uncreated spirit, the Father of lights, the God who: 
2Co 5:19  [...] was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. [...] be ye reconciled to God.

Quote from: onepower on January 24, 2023, 02:35:10 PM
Is this the beginning of the end?

Based on the responses here possibly. Many would rather spend endless hours trying to convince others there present beliefs and opinions must be the right ones. To hold the status quo, whatever there's may be, but never moving forward beyond that and making progress.

This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.

I don't know but I don't worry about it. 
There will come a false messiah or guru, the universal one predicted and expected by all religions. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMpfoxYSFY

Quote from: onepower on January 24, 2023, 02:35:10 PM
Based on the responses here possibly. never moving forward beyond that and making progress.
This is the way the world ends, Not with a bang but a whimper.

Thousands of years, progress was close to none comparing to last 150 years thanks to
"mammoths" ,and "dinosaurs"  and other creatures with their religions  _{Exodus 20:11
https://answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/dinosaurs-and-the-bible/ (https://answersingenesis.org/dinosaurs/dinosaurs-and-the-bible/)
Moore's Law confirmed the progress .
Religion has continued to decline globally as never in its history.( fastest in every high-income country,)}
Soon it may turn into not more than one of the tourist attractions like it is often now in Europe.
_{In 2010 I was touring  Churches and Synagogues in  Krakow Poland from} lack of better entertainment
_{with my Father in Law. ( Catholic).}

His comment: _{what a waste of money. How many spacecrafts and telescopes, could be send today to space...
How many schools were not build and how many talented  kids didn't get education .
How many hospitals were not build?}
____________________________________________________________

It is a shame...
These guys trapped in  their  holly trap, can't even provide constructive conversation,
- every  Priest  and Rabbi who approached me was sooner o later pushed into a  corner
of his own limitations.
so  talking  to  alan is just easy entertainment. ,...

Strangely enough I'm not against  religion...
I'm not...

_{Just find me the smart guy who answers the questions...
or leave me alone...
I know..  nobody can..}
Wesley

it is easy entertaining, isn't it? I agree  :)   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CncWjV54-08 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CncWjV54-08)

Quote from: floodrod on January 23, 2023, 10:21:27 AM
What they teach and the true meaning or two truly opposite things. Let's look at the Trinity..

They teach God has three parts which make up the Trinity. Those who believe that Christ died for their sins is endowed with some kind of holy Spirit from God which gives them protective armor. So every single Christian or believer thinks they are endowed with the holy Spirit. I call rubbish.

The holy Spirit is properly translated as the spirit of righteousness. Now ask yourself what is righteousness?

Righteousness is defined as someone who lives within their rights. To live outside your rights is obviously unrighteous..

Now what are your rights? Refer to the ten commandments which are basically divided into two main points. Treat other life forms like you want to be treated, and honor God.

You are given the right to life, just like every other creature that walks this earth. It is within your rights to live your life, but it is against your rights, or unrighteous, to cause pain misery suffering or death to other creatures for your own personal enjoyment or gain..

When a person has the spirit of righteousness, aka the holy Spirit, it means they truly want to live within their rights and not hurt other creatures or life forms. They will ask themselves before every meal or decision they must make whether their actions are going to impede, her, cause misery suffering or death to another life form unnecessarily. And they will base their decisions not on what is best for them, but what respects the rights of all life..

You have heard the holy Spirit convicts you of sin. This is the exact reason. When you start living life righteously, you evaluate your decisions before you do want to others and commit sins. You know in your heart it is wrong even before you do it, so you don't do it.

I believe not what I consider retarded teachings of some divine spirit that whips down into your body only if you believe the innocent sacrifice and the bloodshed washes your robes.

I could go on about Freemasons, gnostics, Essenes, and heretics in regards to the Roman killing of so-called Christians. But I'm afraid it will all fall on idle ears like always.

I agree with some parts. 
There's also self-righteousness and Jesus wants us to repent from our self-righteousness towards God's righteousness, which is? 
This is an interesting read from the biblical perspective https://www.gotquestions.org/righteousness.html   
perfect righteousness is unattainable by our works and has become a gift. 
Rom 3:21  But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22  Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Rom 3:24  Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Rom 3:25  Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Rom 3:26  To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Rom 3:27  Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 3:29  Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
Rom 3:30  Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31  Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.


Rom 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Rom 5:15  But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
Rom 5:16  And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
Rom 5:17  For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Rom 5:18  Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Rom 5:19  For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Rom 5:20  Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Rom 5:21  That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.


Col 1:15  Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20  And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col 1:21  And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22  In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Col 1:23  If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;


I think it is interesting and believable, I do believe it. The bible contains history and prophecy about history not yet happened.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ExpeditionBible (https://www.youtube.com/c/ExpeditionBible)

stivep

QuoteIt is a shame...
These guys trapped in  their  holly trap, can't even provide constructive conversation,

People seem to be getting pretty desperate and all the crazies quoting scripture are coming out of the woodwork.

I think there's going to be some major blowback on this far right populist/religious state thing were seeing. It was well enough when they knew how to keep there mouth shut but now there letting everyone know just how crazy they are. There trying to violently overthrow governments, trucker blockades disrupting trade and goods and now mass shootings. Domestic terrorism by any other name.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/08/post-911-domestic-terror
Far-right terror poses bigger threat to US than Islamist extremism post-9/11

QuoteIn the 20 years since 9/11, far-right extremists killed more people in the US than did American-based Islamist fundamentalists – but that's often hard to discern from the way the federal government has treated domestic terrorism.
Earlier this year an intelligence report warned that racially-motivated extremists posed the most lethal domestic terrorism threat. It said the menace was now more serious than potential attacks from overseas, and the White House published a strategy for countering the problem.

What has fart-right to do with christianity? At most it has connections with roman catholic fascism like back in the days, Avro Manhattan wrote about it. 

Look back to the questions of stevep, nothing is serious, he's trolling :D maybe paid, some shed light on that before, but i dunno. 
The nice thing about scripture is that it is clear as day without opinion, it's for people who care about Truth, universal new age world is a lie, that's what the bible also shows. 
People see 'scripture', not the light in it. 
Reformation and sola scriptura was once such a blessing to the world, it made the pope mad so they countered it by their G-clan in Rome. The pope who disbanded it was poisoned. Separation of church and state comes from the reformation, and democracy comes from the Dutch during the reformation, who exported it to England https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBhyoKjxRKg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBhyoKjxRKg)
"Domestic terrorism"is "catholic" Biden's hobby. Many shootings were done by people who suddenly heard voices, look it up. Is it an rf weapon using the Frey effect?

In Syria less far-right extremist "christians" are responsible for mass shooting, mainly far-right extremist "muslims" are responsuble for all shootings.

The true "Right" see the Left as controlling deceitful fascists' who are manipulating circumstances to take away their rights and dominate the world with ultimate control under the guise of "Fair Socialism".

The "LEFT" see the Right as greedy Earth-destroying pigs who setup a rigged system of crony capitalism  and rig the system to keep the rich in control.

In a general sense- BOTH VIEWS HAVE MERIT...

Now do I vote for the Order of the Black Sun,  or the Rothchillians? 

NEITHER!!.  I do NOT choose the "lesser of 2 evils"..  I only vote for GOOD! And if there id no "Good", I do not participate.

Quote from: floodrod on January 25, 2023, 06:47:04 AM
The true "Right" see the Left as controlling deceitful fascists' who are manipulating circumstances to take away their rights and dominate the world with ultimate control under the guise of "Fair Socialism".

The "LEFT" see the Right as greedy Earth-destroying pigs who setup a rigged system of crony capitalism  and rig the system to keep the rich in control.

In a general sense- BOTH VIEWS HAVE MERIT...

Now do I vote for the Order of the Black Sun,  or the Rothchillians? 

NEITHER!!.  I do NOT choose the "lesser of 2 evils"..  I only vote for GOOD! And if there id no "Good", I do not participate.

I do thank you for your comment very much,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVWEb-At8yc

Wesley.

     Space       -      Matter      -      Geology     -      Biology     -      Technology - ......   

                              Each new level that opens has a much higher rate of change.....

          Many are wondering - if development, acceleration, evolution is a pattern, then why is there no radiance of many civilizations in the sky?
                A possible answer is that continuous and accelerating evolution over thousands and millions of years can place civilizations in very unusual forms that are difficult to see even from a close distance.

                For example: When you wash in the shower, the atoms of matter surrounding you can watch you.   :)  ;D
                                            And even the substance that is inside you can have fun spying on you.       :)  :)  :D  ;D .
       

The comment from below   is
talking about hope in the world of limitations:

_{Everyone is equal for god so is Angels...(John 3:16)}
What the....f..    ?

<sub>________________________________
The first and primary system of hierarchy introduced by religion with Archangels and Angles .
was Punishment of  fallen angles.
Jude 1:6 ). Because they rebelled against God, they will face eternal punishment and torment

So few Angles wanted to ask few questions to better understand what  is going on.
- as they were unequally created or possibly mentally  limited .</sub>
What kind of Good Father would punish  his children with hell,  for being verbally disobedient.?

<sub>But anyhow they suppose to be suffering in Hell.. -yet another institution, Right?
But they are   somehow allowed to be very much OK as "employees" doing their job.
AS it is a demand for  badness as the opposite of goodness.
It will be  no good for God is there was no sin..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c898WyjHDx4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c898WyjHDx4)
Ruins of empire</sub>
Wesley

Quote from: alan on January 25, 2023, 06:21:39 AM
Look back to the questions of stevep, nothing is serious, he's trolling :D maybe paid,

Broken dreams and hope:
_Lyrics
Dream of independence made a tenant to buy a house where now his tenants  pays his mortgage.
Only years later, his children  still paying utilities, property tax and insurance may see the house mortgage free.
God doesn't even give shit about  that, nor about Ukrainian children killed by Russians... and likely about you too..
Fricken miracles ended as people are too smart now days  for holly magician to fool them out.

yo...
The toil of a stupid fool wears him out, because he does not even know the way to the city
pushed to believe for what? ..a better tomorrow?: ......the  holly crap - cramp....spiritual one,
While it is just non-damaging,  painful  paralysis-like immobility of the affected muscle.....
it may affect your dick tomorrow so take some stimulants and don't forget to pray today..
You know..just in case if for any reason  all of that BS was true,
You know what they say: ..Satan is by far not the kindest beast... yet.. but hey you never know..
He was screwed even more, in the first place<sub>.. just and only- for talking and disagreeing..with  the  holly boss.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMnGYDi7Li0
artistic expression</sub>
Wesley

Quote from: stivep on January 25, 2023, 06:09:52 PM
_{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMnGYDi7Li0
artistic expression}
Wesley

And will remain, because anyone that knows the secret also knows to never communicate it, to anyone, ever.

But one day, it will no longer be a secret, because everyone left will already know the secret.  That is what is meant by the "Great Reveal", your time is up.

PART #1  Falling Foundation of Religion.
_{Philosophy  is mother of  all sciences.}

Quote from: alan on January 25, 2023, 06:21:39 AMLook back to the questions of stevep, nothing is serious, he's trolling :D maybe paid,//
it is clear as day without opinion, //for people who care about Truth, //

O yeah?
Holy Shmolly , Holy Moly...
Throwing holy verses and quotes  doesn't help  here Alan.
Impotent, typically can't erect himself to the strong powerful vaginal request and remains convincing without some sort of stimulants, or quoting holy verses.
Right Alan?

Quote from: stivep on January 25, 2023, 06:09:52 PM
You know what they say:
Satan is by far not the kindest beast... yet.. but hey you never know..
He was screwed even more, in the first place_{.. just and only- for talking and disagreeing..with  the  holy boss.}

Use your own brain Alan  can you?

____________________________________________________


_{opinion expressed is my own.}
Wesley

PART #2  Falling Foundation of Religion.
_{Philosophy  is mother of  all sciences.}
Creation:
_____________


I  created  Free Energy  device posted here with explanation too.
My partner  made it work.
1. Energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
2. Energy  transfer from point A to point B was patented by Dr James Corum.
_{The first and the second are tightly related as they use the  same principals- the basis, (the Foundation)}

But it looks too logical and not so holy I assume.. Nobody cares ...
Some of you don't believe it could be that easy..
Some of you may say: Show  it working... Right?
Should I say: go to Hell? ??? ???
:)

<sub>Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546325/#msg546325)  « Reply #187 on: June 01, 2020, 11:42:52 PM »

The exact and accurate winding instruction is here .However it is calculated for frequency of ~137 kHz
good for short range A to B like in  point #2.
Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg552083/#msg552083) « Reply #204 on: October 12, 2020, 12:22:12 AM »
For #1 and long range  point #2 you need 18 to 20kHz.</sub>

QuoteSmart guy is the  lucky fool who  didn't drop the chance.
Are idiots of the noticeable magnitude  born--or are they made?
Find for your self  look at the mirror.
Thomas Jefferson.

More yet is to come soon :)

_{opinion expressed is my own}
Wesley

PART #3  Falling Foundation of Religion.
_{Philosophy  is mother of  all sciences.}
Creation:
_____________



Let's picture The Devil as an innocent
-mentally handicap created this way on purpose by  that Cynical Oddly Ugly, Power - that  totally use and abuse him ..
_{God knows everything ( and all future  too.)   Psalm 139 NCV  (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=977aeb67c5b732b2JmltdHM9MTY3NDY5MTIwMCZpZ3VpZD0wOWFjZDAxYy1mMmRmLTY3ZTctMjU0ZS1jMjgzZjM1MDY2ZjcmaW5zaWQ9NTE3Ng&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=09acd01c-f2df-67e7-254e-c283f35066f7&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmlibGVnYXRld2F5LmNvbS9wYXNzYWdlLz9zZWFyY2g9UHNhbG0lMjAxMzkmdmVyc2lvbj1OQ1Y&ntb=1)}

So Lord knowingly created some of his Angles not so smart to be gentle - like an...a... "holy imbeciles" but still smarter than any human will be..
They were completely harmless and asking to many questions- like a kids in the school looking for help in understanding more.
_{"holy imbeciles" means :Not Having similar or equal amounts, attributes or characteristics consistent, compatible, or in agreement with
The Creator.}


Although they couldn't do any harm to other Angles nor satisfy Lord, they were  perfectly ready now to serve the purpose means:
-To become Satan in newly created Hell just to make not yet created Humans to sin.
And only after that Lord The Creator, was ready to create Humans.
_________________________________________________

Satan one day said to God:
I'm only your child, created by you on purpose as mentally handicap, having different opinion,
because you needed me to show my harmless heavenly  opposition so you can  create Hell
You made me to protest..and I did it verbally of course.
It was a Hell that was important to you not me I was only a pretext a tool.
And what now?
-these guys on earth blame me for everything they do bad...

You now what?
You are no longer only  malicious, spiteful, overbearing or bitchy to me for all of that time,
You really like to be that perfect unrestrained, selfish, oppressive ruler  brutal in  harsh use of your own authority .

You know ..they call you Father?
For what ?...for all of the unborn yet and other innocent children you killed  in Sodom and Gomorrah and
Noah Great Flood? What  did these children do wrong to you?
Why didn't you tell to Noah to take two more children to  the Ark instead of the mosquitos with viruses?
Did you really need  to be so sadistic,   ugly,  example of your own  rules?


Forgiveness
_____________

But  I have  question to you:
Can you forgive me?
- You know God ...  I was talking to much like some woman do too... Just forget it.. Can you?
Comparing to what these guys on earth do  there, I'm innocent...




_{https://youtu.be/HkbG39-T4H0?t=174 (https://youtu.be/HkbG39-T4H0?t=174)}
More yet is to come soon  :)
_{opinion expressed is my own}
Wesley

I'm checking if the forum works
Anyone wants to respond?
Wesley

I see your message.
bi

Quote from: bistander on February 01, 2023, 04:00:10 PM
I see your message.
bi

Thank you bi.
By the way me and my wife we are  for all bi..  ;) a.. total freedom of all  animals including humans.  ;)
______________________________________________________
It looks like Alan gave up.

Wesley

Quote from: stivep on February 01, 2023, 01:37:54 PM
I'm checking if the forum works

Seems to.  Things look a tad different.  Think we're back in business.

It appears there are many that have posted in this thread about how they don't believe the Bible is the true word of God.  The following are some true facts.  Not conjecture or fairy tales but facts so you can judge for yourself if the Bible can be trusted.



The Bible states repeatedly that, because they angered God, the Jewish people will be scattered across the earth. They would be driven from their homeland and forced to live in foreign lands where they would be persecuted. This prophecy has clearly come true. The Jewish people were chased out of ancient Israel or carried away as captives. They lost their right to govern their homeland and instead had to make their homes in numerous foreign nations.

Many people think of the Jewish diaspora as beginning with the victory of Babylon and the resultant captivity of the Jews. In reality, however, the Jews were not truly scattered until the destruction of the Second Temple in A.D. 70. at the hands of Rome. It was after that event that the Jews truly began to be scattered to the winds. For centuries, the Jewish people had no homeland. Instead, they made their lives in foreign lands, and there are Jewish communities in nearly every country on the planet.



Few people have ever been as commonly hated or openly persecuted as the Jews. The Romans saw them as backwards, confusing and an endless source of trouble. Medieval Europe loathed them, and Jewish communities were leveled by both sides of the Crusades. Anti-Semitism was easily the norm well into the 20th century when it came to a vicious and bloody head during the Holocaust. Even that tragedy was not enough to shake off the specter of anti-Semitism entirely. Indeed, hatred toward the Jews is still alive and well in much of the world today, especially in the Middle East.

Despite being surrounded by enemies on all sides and often being badly outnumbered, Jews managed to preserve their cultural and religious identity for nearly 2,000 years without a homeland. Most cultures would have slowly died out as the people who practiced them assimilated into the country in which they lived. That is what happens with most immigrants who do not have large populations, support to help them preserve their cultural heritage and a somewhat isolated and insular community. Despite having none of these in most of the world, the Jewish identity was never forgotten.


The Bible promises repeatedly that, though the Jews will be driven out of the Holy Land, they will one day return to the land God promised them. According to Isaiah, "[God] will assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth" and allow them to return to their ancestral homeland. Today, there are Jews in every corner of the world, and increasing numbers of them have returned to live in Israel. In a mere 70 years, the Jewish population of Israel has grown from 500,000 to over 7 million. The descendants of Jacob are at last able to return to the land they were promised, and many of them have done exactly that. They make their way to Israel from almost every country on earth in fulfillment of the Bible's prophecy.


Biblical prophecies in the Book of Ezekiel imply that Israel would be in a sorry state when the Jews finally returned to their homeland. Towns would have been leveled and the land would be "desolate." After the Jews returned, however, they would rebuild their cities and "the land that was desolate shall be tilled, instead of being the desolation that it was in the sight of all who passed by." When the State of Israel was established, this was more or less the case. Two world wars had left most of human civilization damaged, and the actual land of Israel itself was truly desolate. A large percentage of the land was either desert or covered in swamps filled with malaria carrying mosquitoes. According to the prophecies in Ezekiel, however, the once ruined land would "become like the garden of Eden." In terms of agriculture, Israel has done exactly that. Israel has some of the most advanced agricultural technology in the world, and the Israelis have used that technology to become one of the few counties that exports more food than they import.


Jerusalem remained in gentile hands for over a thousand years after it was taken from the Jews for the last time. Jews remained living inside the holy city's borders, but it remained under the control of other nations and people. For many years, it was ruled by Rome. Then, it was taken over by Muslims. After that, Jerusalem was held by Christian Crusaders. It went back and forth between Muslim and Crusader hands for some time. Later, it was held by Great Britain. Even after the establishment of the State of Israel, Jerusalem was not truly back in Jewish hands. It was not until June 1967 that the city that was the center of the Jewish world was once again controlled by those that built it. When the Israelis took back East Jerusalem from Jordan and reunited the city, it was the first time the city of David had been held by the Jews in nearly 1,900 years.[/font][/size]


Anyone who does not know that the Arab nations of the Middle East loathe Israel with a frightening passion has been living under a rock. Less than 10 years after Israel declared its independence, its Arab neighbors had already gone to war against it three times with guerrilla style raids and bombings in between each war. To this day, the many Arab states speak openly about their desire for the destruction of Israel. Terrorists regularly attack Israeli citizens and tourists alike, rockets are launched deliberately at civilian targets and Palestinian organizations refuse to compromise with Israel during attempts at forming peace. Just as the Bible prophesized, the Arab world wants nothing less than the utter destruction of the Jewish state. In fact, the establishment of Israel is often called the nakba, "the catastrophe," by many Arabs, and Israel exists in a constant state of readiness for their enemies' next attack.


The Arab world hates Israel in general, but it seems like everyone from every nation has an opinion on the handling of Jerusalem. Many feel that the holy city should be divided up as it was once before. Many others feel that, as a sovereign state, Israel has the right to choose its own capital just like any other nation. Officially, Jerusalem is the country's capital, but many nations are reluctant to recognize it as such for fear of angering the neighboring Arab states. Jerusalem and Israel have become divisive political questions and serious matters of concern for international policy. Given the number of Arab states, the United Nations often comes down against Israel in decisions, but America has long been an ally of the Jewish state in part because Israel is the only functioning and stable democracy in the Middle East. This leads to constant tension both internationally and inside numerous countries whenever questions about Israel arise.


Israel is a tiny country surrounded by enemies who would like little more than to have the nation wiped off the map. As such, Israel has come to be the embodiment of the phrase "though she be little, she be fierce." The Israeli military is widely considered to be one of the best in the world, and their Air Force is considered to be the very best. Their military technology is extremely advanced both in terms of defensive and offensive capabilities. Israel is known to have nuclear technology and is suspected of having hydrogen capabilities as well. The Iron Dome has successfully shot down scores of terrorist missiles and kept them from landing on their civilian targets. In each of the Arab-Israeli conflicts, Israel was outnumbered badly. In the Six Day War, Israel stood alone against the coalition of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq and the Lebanon that was supported by Algeria, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, Sudan, Tunisia and the PLO. Israel suffered less than 1,000 casualties to the Arab coalition's 20,000 and successfully captured the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Golan Heights and reclaimed Jerusalem in six days. During the Yom Kippur War, Israel was once again badly outnumbered by another Arab coalition. Despite this, the Israelis repelled the Arab forces. In accordance with the Bible, each Israeli soldier truly has become as strong as David.


Now you can claim these are all just coincidences but the Bible clearly foretold all of this.  Now here is something to think about and watch for.  The Bible has also said that in the near future a coalition of Russia and some of the Arab nations will launch a full scale attack against Israel with the intention of finally wiping all traces of the Jews from the face of the earth.  THEY WILL FAIL!!  How do I know they will fail?  Because the Bible says so.  So when you see this happen you will know that the Bible accurately predicts the future.  There will be no mistaking this event when it happens.


Another event you can watch for in the next few years will be the disappearance of millions of people from the face of the earth.  We Christians call this the Rapture.  You don't have to believe it either but when it happens I hope you will remember that God has already said it would happen.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Mr Carol, if your referring to or quoting from the king James version it's full of hundreds of translation errors !
for a start who is it's God referring to ? and who is Jesus that name doesn't exist  before the king James edition
and nether do any of the others.

In order to find any mach in history scholars have had to go back to the original scriptures to find  the truth.

There is a quote in the original scriptures where it says miss quotes and alterations are blasphemers and unforgivable

Sil

I think were at a turning point...

A spirit is defined as "a force or principle believed to animate living beings". What are the forces which animates anything?, it's the Primary Fields and Energy which are also considered immaterial like a spirit. So the term spirit just seems like a more primitive and generalized way of describing what we already know of field/energy theory.

It gets even more strange when we consider that we are now developing organic computers. These could become an intelligent organic AI with a organic robotic form similar to us in the future. However most would never dare say it has a spirit even if it learned to act like us in every respect. Even if the electro-magnetic field energy moving about between the particles in it's computer is really no different than in our brain. It would all seem to be the same stuff,(particles, fields and energy) which animates everything so how is it any different?.

The turning point is when we understand we don't need gods to explain life or how mankind came to be. Many claim at the current rate of evolution that within a couple hundred years we will easily have the technology to clone/create human beings. Who needs false gods when by definition we will be gods, we will be the creators of life. It also begs the question, when we have the technology to create life it becomes pretty obvious some other more advanced beings may have created us.

It's no wonder so many people are so scared and intimidated by AI because it forces us to think about the nature of our own existence. In fact were making real progress, at one time we had thousands of imaginary gods and now we have only a few, things are looking up.

AC

 Believers likely skip their answer to uncomfortable  questions .
(https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg573669/#msg573669)Simple Answer to onepower .
Mercedes is  good proven mechanism and Yugo  is not.
Jews are constructed  like Mercedes for  masses.
while Rolls Royce, Lamborghini  is for the wealthy few.

Religion was simply a survival mechanism of Jews  in diasporas - a set of rules
That mechanism was  made  and perfected by these humans allowing adaptation .
In today world  bible is like an "easy woman" It will bend and support even  a new Hitler.( e.g Russia)
So any statement  you made  will be found as  supported, present or envisioned in the Bible .
Better than using prostitute as you don't have to  pay for it and still find support for your pleasures.   
 
LGBT is now more accepted and it was not..Woman is often becoming a priest,
Jews are  not so bad,  or very good now because  Church is  losing money..

But you will experience fear of holly punishment and some other  human animals will not, because for them
Darwin was right, and religion  adjusted  to it like that "easy woman" bending in discomfort
and still benefiting...
Wesley

July 19 1952 Washington DC started getting visits from Unidentifiable (14 :50 minutes in
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Kr1TwKhQk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Kr1TwKhQk)

Future NASA astronaut Gordon Cooper  had chased them in 1951 (12 minute mark)
Somebody was not the least bit timid !


And the end of video is ......

I watched this brilliant documentary last night which explains many things...
https://thedividedbrain.com/about/

QuoteTHE DIVIDED BRAIN is a mind-altering odyssey about one man's quest to prove a growing imbalance in our brains, and to help us understand how this makes us increasingly unable to grapple with critical economic, environmental and social issues; ones that shape our very future as a species.

THE DIVIDED BRAIN follows Dr. Iain McGilchrist on a journey of discovery as he travels to meet his champions and critics and defends his vision on the implications of his theory. Dr. McGilchrist is a soft-spoken British psychiatrist and neuroscientist who may have uncovered an insidious problem with the way our brains function. He believes that one half of our brain – the left hemisphere – is slowly taking power, and that we in the Western world are simultaneously feeding its ambitions. This half of the brain is very proficient at creating technologies, procedures and systems, but it cannot understand the implications of these on the people and the world around it.

In essence, the left brain/right handed thinkers tend to be materialists/realists who only tend to think about short term concepts or beliefs which serve there own interests. They have little understanding of the future or the consequences of there actions and are only concerned with the present. For example, how much money they can make to buy more stuff to impress other people to gain status and power. This psychotic behavior has become epidemic globally because of social media, populism and other factors.

We also see this effect as the rise of populism in Russia, China, the U.S., Brazil and many other countries. Populism basically dictating that we should only serve our own interests using a dog eat dog mentality and to hell with everyone else. As the populist theme goes, we should be loyal to our own group and treat everyone else as the enemy.

We could think of it this way, if we all want to think like populist/materialists always trying to take as much as we can for ourselves there can only be one logical outcome. There's always someone smarter thus they will always gain more wealth and power faster until there are only a few who own and control everything. Logically, if one person or group wants everything it can only result in a one world order or world war 3.

In effect it's just a fancy way of explaining what we already know, power, greed and materialism are ultimately suicidal in a global sense.

AC

the cross is tgset (not tgsnt)

Rising waters do not crest till they reach their peak.

AC sine wave does not reverse till highest amplitude is reached.

Alcoholic does not recover till they reach rock bottom.

Ball does not bounce and change direction till it reaches the floor.

Humans will not change egotistical destructive nature until total destruction is inevitable.

Just the way it is..  Preventive measure is wishful thinking..

Will it all end?  Donno...  But I am certain we will find out when we reach the edge of the cliff.  And reaching the edge is certain.

Quote from: floodrod on March 11, 2023, 02:02:57 PM
...  But I am certain we will find out when we reach the edge of the cliff.  And reaching the edge is certain.

No truer words were ever said.

See you at the finish line...   

Quote from: onepower on March 09, 2023, 01:19:00 PM
I watched this brilliant documentary last night which explains many things...
https://thedividedbrain.com/about/ (https://thedividedbrain.com/about/)

In essence, the left brain/right handed thinkers tend to be materialists/realists who only tend to think about short term concepts or beliefs which serve there own interests. They have little understanding of the future or the consequences of there actions and are only concerned with the present. For example, how much money they can make to buy more stuff to impress other people to gain status and power. This psychotic behavior has become epidemic globally because of social media, populism and other factors.

We also see this effect as the rise of populism in Russia, China, the U.S., Brazil and many other countries. Populism basically dictating that we should only serve our own interests using a dog eat dog mentality and to hell with everyone else. As the populist theme goes, we should be loyal to our own group and treat everyone else as the enemy.

We could think of it this way, if we all want to think like populist/materialists always trying to take as much as we can for ourselves there can only be one logical outcome. There's always someone smarter thus they will always gain more wealth and power faster until there are only a few who own and control everything. Logically, if one person or group wants everything it can only result in a one world order or world war 3.

In effect it's just a fancy way of explaining what we already know, power, greed and materialism are ultimately suicidal in a global sense.

AC

I agree that consumerism fuelled by corporate/govt (same/same) greed  and materialism is the source of most ills in the world. I think we need to look to more local solutions. Support your local independent producers. Be it agricultural or industrial. Labels like populism don't mean much to me. I don't pretend to try and understand them. I know there are interests that will always seek to divide the masses. Left vs right is just a puppet show from the same puppeteer. I've been lucky to have travelled to many countries on our beautiful planet and shared meals with families in their homes. Communist, Capitalist & Dictators systems don't change want people want for their families. From those experiences I know fundamentally we all share the same hopes and dreams. Good health and a secure future for our families. It starts with us at a local level. Say hello to your neighbour. :)

Chi continua a cancellare i miei post ?!  >:(
È tre volte più difficile per me scriverle che per chiunque di voi.
I am so proud,that I have alot of them.
Злые вы какие то...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf78rEAJvhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf78rEAJvhY) This link is for the video The Dimming.

Global warming is a scam and a scare tactic from the power elites to instill fear that the end is near. The earth is in a natural warming cycle and has been proven many, many times yet the sick SOB's in charge have their own controlling agenda. Simple time and research can prove this yourself unless you are just to lazy to know the truth. All new green deals are just power grabs when you dissect the packages presented with the money burden placed on the taxpayers. A recent study of the Artic revealed that the wild life there is actually thriving imagine that.

Granted the oceans of plastic waste from third world countries and the continuous dumping of man made poisons from Corporate factories, large ships, oil tanker mishaps and such are definitely not helping. The funny part about it is plants need Co2 and exhale oxygen which we need to breath. The co2 levels are so low right now the plants are starving yet this is their premise to push global warming scam. The video link above is the real reason our climate is taking a nose dive.

The exhaust from out gasoline cars are poisoning the air we breath as in 1933 Pogue carburetor achieved 100 miles per gallon yet was highly suppressed. Prohibition was all about greed from standard oil corporation not about alcohol ever. Pogue's last carburetor achieved over 250 miles per gallon (Owned by Don Garlits) yet again it was suppressed as usual. Most people do not know that gasoline is water clear with no useless additives and that fact that butyl rubber is incorporated into gasoline to foul up high millage vaporizing carburetors. The money whores can care less about the environment stopping at nothing to keep their cash flow from your pocket to theirs.

As for the bible, well man is a liar and we have been manipulated for 6,000 years since the Annunaki created us by the power elite. There very well may be a God but her certainly did not create us. The bible was redacted between the 650 to 900 ad taking out sky people and Annunaki then replaced with Yahweh and Jehovah. Even renowned scholars around the world have stated this as a fact. These stories in the bible were other stories passed down from generation then eventually were adapted to the present form. so in essence the bible is a complete lie being used as a form of control.
A very smart religious person once said " We don't need to be born again because born again mean were are ignorant. What we need to do is grow up and realize what's going on" Hello!

Life began at Adam's calendar for humans and it is the people behind the pope and the entire Christian community that choses to ignore over 200,000 clay tablets that predate the bible by many a thousand years. These tablets were shown to have a written chronological history of man's beginning and that he was taught language, knowledge of the universe. The entire land mass of Afirica was a generation facility and all the structure were made to vibrate creating massive power just from the magnetic fields emanating from the earth. Michael Tellinger nailed it spot on yet the religious fanatic scoff at him as well as the power elite that want nothing better to cover up the whole ordeal If we are to survive we need to adopt the Ubuntu way of life.

You can believe what you want to believe, I just happen to believe what the real sign tell us. We are being manipulated into destruction by the power elite that think because their descendance were from the Annunaki and they are the true rulers of this world deciding on the fate of man. I would have no problem putting a nice round hole on their foreheads, every last one of them. ;D

Most people in this world are surface dwellers, they take everything they see as face value taking the easy way out instead of getting off their buts and doing some real research. This will be the demise of the human race sitting back being Sheeple

PS. If you think that covid really existed then I have a pop up booklet for you to read lol! It was created in a lab and the shot is the disease creating the protein spike in the body thus transferring it to the unvaxxed. The whole covid scene was planned for 20 years just do the research and see who patent what 20 years ago and months before the so called outbreak. The CGG codon was never in a human virus until China lab synthesized it, which by the way they were contracted to do so by Facci at the tune of 8 million tax payers dollars.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 16, 2023, 01:52:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf78rEAJvhY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf78rEAJvhY) This link is for the video The Dimming.

Global warming is a scam//
plastic waste//
gasoline cars are poisoning the air//
man is a liar and we have been manipulated for 6,000 years .
God // certainly did not create us.//
Life began at Adam's calendar for humans
Michael Tellinger nailed it spot on yet the religious fanatic
PS. If you think that covid really existed ?
CGG codon was never in a human virus until China lab synthesized it/

Global warming is a fact. Climate changed. Winter 40 years ago was different.
We are  animals according to modern science of physics, history of evolution , anthropology, archeology etc.
The rest of your text is likely true.
But you have rights to your  opinion here in USA in the land of freedom and opportunity.
You may compare it to e.g Russia if you are not sure yet.


Wesley

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 16, 2023, 01:52:06 PM

The Annunaki created us by the power elite. There very well may be a God but her certainly did not create us.

I am familiar with Zecharia Sitchin's translations of the Sumerian writings.   Anu, Enki, etc. Perhaps the story is not completely understood.  The Annunaki link to the Rhesus protein in most humans is quite intriguing. Type0Negative Rocks (pun intended)

The story of the Annunaki also says that they bred with the women of Earth and had offspring which ruled the earth.
The Old Testament says the fallen angels bred with Earth Women and had Offspring which ruled the Earth
Greek Mythology suggests Gods bred with Earth Women and had offspring - The Demigods.

There are many more connections, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that there is a creator who created us pure, and the genetic manipulation from these Annunaki / Other Beings is all part of the corruption of man. 

But I'm with ya on "most" of your logic.  And I probably believe some even crazier theories..  That Faucci / Gates MRNA eugenics juice can stay out of my system. lol

It is the beginning of the end for freedom, and if we're not off grid before the point of no return, then we're done.

When the digital ID / CBDC / carbon score / CSRQ system gets upgraded to a Mark of the Beast "one secure way to pay", what then ? Take the backpack and die unprepared in the wilderness ?

I'm desperate to find a solution. I'm a computer guy, I live in my room when I return from work - and still I am forced to deal with this before the window of freedom closes conpletely and I lose my money and my righta.

I am not willing to leave with my backpack and die in the mountains, hungry and cold. I wanna have my food aboard my boat when the shit gets loose - be that the end of freedom, Russian nukes or anything else.

Pretty sure food and power will be gone when the Russians will punish UK for sticking its nose in the war. But still, the end of freedom seems far more probable. Digital ID and CBDC, after a monetary crisis to destroy the toilet paper currencies and I'd be done - no way out anymore. Free energy is priority zero.

Later edit :
European Parliament just voted on this.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/european-parliament-votes-to-form-final-law-on-eu-digital-wallet

Quote from: floodrod on March 16, 2023, 08:33:15 PM
But I'm with ya on "most" of your logic.  And I probably believe some even crazier theories..  That Faucci / Gates MRNA eugenics juice can stay out of my system. lol

;D

"history of evolution"
Evolution did not take place according to many scientist. It was all of a sudden changes meaning genetic manipulation is the only probable cause for a jump like that to take place. nature does not work like that and  that fast.

Why I was sent to ban on one russian language forum after words:
"I don't remember that the West, which is so proud of human rights, had repent for the fact that the British and American occupation administration in Germany extradited Soviet defectors, soldiers and officers back.They hoped and believed, and went for broke, destroying all the bridges behind them."
Despite the fact that there was a very free communication.
What taboo topic have I touched on that should not be touched?
While I'm not lying, it's a fact of history. :)

Quote from: kolbacict on March 17, 2023, 03:47:59 AM
ban on one russian language forum.
West, which is so proud of human rights,
British and American occupation administration in Germany extradited Soviet defectors, soldiers and officers back.

Traditionally Russian interpretation of the history facts is  unlikely worth to be  believed at  but  occasionally they may even be true.
My Russian is now better than most of Russians in Russian suburbs, .
Yes  RT, Sputnik, and Russian  propaganda was stopped even on you tube - transmitting in all languages outside of Russia.
Yes Polish, Slavic former  Soviet, and Baltia countries are manifesting  their dislike  to RF.
Russian language forum  mostly created by  Russians can ban  anyone for anything, but it is  hard to believe we do ban  for the same.
Western democracy from ww2  till today  evolved  a lot   it  is now better  and less restrictive to Russians.
Don't mix Russians with Russian Federation... there are two  very different creatures for US  government regulations.
Nothing is perfect but comparing to Russia We The Americans are in  the world of Russian dreams.

Wesley

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 17, 2023, 12:13:04 AM
;D
"history of evolution"
Evolution did not take place according to many scientist.
It was all of a sudden changes meaning genetic manipulation is the only probable cause for a jump like that to take place. nature does not work like that and  that fast.

With all due respect to your excellent  over-average English skills.
Nonsense as a word in its meaning - is explained well on line.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 17, 2023, 12:13:04 AM
Evolution did not take place according to many scientist.

Who is "many" ?
Who are these scientists?
What  entity they are representing?
How do they  differ from "many" cows, or other animals including human animals?
_______________________________
Your own vision  unlikely  conformed , may have not much to do with  official  conformed  science .
Where are the facts? verifiable by  official science literature?
Wesley

Russians cheat the most, themselves. Until recently, I thought that they only care about the west, but if you look at the forums, it is clear that scams about free energy devices are common.
Unlike them, there are no people on this forum saying they have such a device.


This is a movie what an ordinary Russian has in his head, or rather what they put in his head.
I think there is someone here who knows the Russian language better and will write what was going on here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SITNLrVBzZw

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 16, 2023, 09:02:53 PM
It is the beginning of the end for freedom, and if we're not off grid before the point of no return, then we're done.

Your hope is like a view with use of binocular -too directional in its sense.
Energy for Free called FE is making world closer to overpopulation.
Ask yourself: How many people can Earth handle?
Available to me calculation  made in academic community says that if FE is  available today  than 18 years from now
you'll start  to experience effects of it.
Think please -  your newborn  daughter or son will be just 18!!!!!!!!!!!
This  unfortunately is as hard  for most of you to  accept as  for the creationists   
is the fact that they are  just animals and nothing more than that.
Can that 18 years period be  wrong?
Yes it can.. .. take statistical error  of  1/2 of it and add it - it gives you  additional 9 years..   


Wesley

https://bigthink.com/13-8/science-vs-scientism/ (https://bigthink.com/13-8/science-vs-scientism/) 

The Philosophic Corruption of Reality/Physics with David Harriman 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQ99zaO7RE&list=PLOngNLozlJbrjtzaNfQrA0pWtBfZXNTrC&index=17

Quote from: stivep on March 17, 2023, 06:04:09 AM

Russian language forum  mostly created by  Russians can ban  anyone for anything, but it is  hard to believe we do ban  for the same.



Wesley

It was site "awd" and it becomes more and more pro-Ukrainian.
Moreover, it is not clear what bit them.
It's a shame, I spent ten years there, just like on your site.
What kind of secret did I give away?  :)

It's a bit mindblowing to see that people looking for overunity - in defiance of scientific dogma -

are actually pro-Ukraine, believe the superiority of nowadays Western "democracy" (and I stress nowadays) , believe in overpopulation and climate change - in acceptance of all the other woke bullshit themes.

However, I don't give a damn. I am here for overunity. Find a solution, build a solution, go off the grid and actually thrive in freedom off the grid. Survive globalism. Survive in the body, but far more important, resist until the end.

That is, refusal to submit to everything the current "democracy" is crazy for:
- refuse to vaxx in the name of an ideology, but furthermore, refuse to have my DNA changed
- refuse to believe in overpopulation - the earth has plenty of resources for us all
- refuse to believe in "climate change" as a result of human day to day activities
- refuse to believe that we whites are the scum of the earth
- refuse to support Ukraine and hate Russia
- refuse to take the digital ID
- refuse to relinquish any private property

And get out before they take all my money to give me a CBDC monthly allocation.

"For at the time of the antichrist, the place of the idols will be taken by political power, which will ask submission to itself" (Saint Ermoghen of Tobolsk)

And I think there is nothing more clear that these satanists have nothing more on their mind than to make us all submit.
Like mayor DeBlasio said "The voluntary phase is over". Idea being: we tried to explain, we tried to make you submit willingly out of fear or conformity, but if you have not done it in defiance, now it's the time of the whip.
They finished making states submit with their goddamn neoliberalism, and now they target the individual.

May they burn in the everlasting fire when all ends. I want to survive and resist just to delight in that scene, to see the archangel throwing these globalist bastards there.

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 17, 2023, 01:26:30 PM
It's a bit mindblowing to see that people looking for overunity - in defiance of scientific dogma -

are actually pro-Ukraine, believe the superiority of nowadays Western "democracy" (and I stress nowadays) , believe in overpopulation and climate change - in acceptance of all the other woke bullshit themes.

However, I don't give a damn. I am here for overunity. Find a solution, build a solution, go off the grid and actually thrive in freedom off the grid. Survive globalism. Survive in the body, but far more important, resist until the end.

That is, refusal to submit to everything the current "democracy" is crazy for:
- refuse to vaxx in the name of an ideology, but furthermore, refuse to have my DNA changed
- refuse to believe in overpopulation - the earth has plenty of resources for us all
- refuse to believe in "climate change" as a result of human day to day activities
- refuse to believe that we whites are the scum of the earth
- refuse to support Ukraine and hate Russia
- refuse to take the digital ID
- refuse to relinquish any private property

And get out before they take all my money to give me a CBDC monthly allocation.

"For at the time of the antichrist, the place of the idols will be taken by political power, which will ask submission to itself" (Saint Ermoghen of Tobolsk)

And I think there is nothing more clear that these satanists have nothing more on their mind than to make us all submit.
Like mayor DeBlasio said "The voluntary phase is over". Idea being: we tried to explain, we tried to make you submit willingly out of fear or conformity, but if you have not done it in defiance, now it's the time of the whip.
They finished making states submit with their goddamn neoliberalism, and now they target the individual.

May they burn in the everlasting fire when all ends. I want to survive and resist just to delight in that scene, to see the archangel throwing these globalist bastards there.

Amen,  I agree with everything you posted.  One of the few on here with their head on straight.  The end is getting closer all the time but not what a lot of people think it will be.  As I posted before,  when you see Russia and her Arab allies attack Israel and get soundly defeated you will know the end is very very close.


Carroll

Quote from: stivep on March 16, 2023, 07:14:32 PM
Global warming is a fact. Climate changed. Winter 40 years ago was different.
We are  animals according to modern science of physics, history of evolution , anthropology, archeology etc.
The rest of your text is likely true.
But you have rights to your  opinion here in USA in the land of freedom and opportunity.
You may compare it to e.g Russia if you are not sure yet.


Wesley

Climate change is a fact, greenhouse effect is a fact, but global warming as something cataclysmic isn't a fact, it's scientism and politics. They say there are preserved maps with Antarctica on it not being covered in ice. 
Here's a vid about  that map 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wi8Sw9L40g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wi8Sw9L40g) 

Maybe this is also contributing to observed climate change  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_precession)

The climate change narrative have been implying that a stable climate is the norm, and whatever changes, can only be detrimental, and humanity's fault. That's a lot of fallacies put together, but hey, it gives globalists the power to remove our liberties so that's a huge plus, for them.

12,800 years ago we still had 120+ meters lower sea level, and happily grazing Mammoths, hunting saber tooth tigers, and roaming giant groundsloths the size of rhinos. Overnight, sea levels rose to our present levels (and seem to have even been higher at times), and the melting flows have carved out significant scars on especially North America.
The large mammals that were extincted are often found in gravel pits, scorched from fire, broken bones, and then drowned. Around the world an ash layer is found, there would have been global forest fires, along with the trmendous floods. The scale of the floods is such that you need to look from space to recognize water ripples in the ground, deltas on the coats. Just too big to perceive when standing there.

In the UK, famous for dreadful weather, there used to be a rich wine culture. Go dig and you'll find giant reptiles (dinosaurs). seems their weather has been milder, more than once in Earth's history. So stable climate is a fallacy (actually geologists can't find any such time and place), and it appears to have been warmer than now in many places. Indeed Antarctica to have always been under an ice sheet, is statistically highly improbably, considering the ebb and flow of ice ages and their often violent cause: celestial impacts. That last big flood that created our present world map (imagine where your nearest coast line would have been with 120+ meters less water in the oceans) and flora and fauna, was caused by comet strikes most likely. That also explains the ash (Younger Dryas Boundary Layer) found globally. Very much compatible with various accounts through word of mouth mythology as well.
It appears CO2 levels have been higher in the past. We don't know how far the glaciers ever receded, nor whether that actually matters since ice can be deposited also on and around the poles. Climate is not stable, so it can accumulate where it likes, affect weather through ocean streams and air streams as it does.
Our Sun has well established seasons and mini seasons. The Earth cannot pretend to ignoring those. The Sun and other celestial bodies control our weather.
In my opinion, for any humans to declare, so shortly after inventing toilet paper or the thermometer, to be able to "measure climate", is pretty megalomane. We find these weather station in the most awkward of locations, collecting "data" that curiously helps climatologists with their models. However, the signs declaring the disappearance of specific glaciers have since been removed, because the glaciers didn't care to agree with the narrative and just stuck around.
The way I see it, the Earth is now inhabited with a large amount of hungry residents. To feed them all, crops will need to covert CO2 into produce using solar energy. We hardly have any alternatives to photosynthesis to feed ourselves. How will the "desired" or "necessary" CO2 levels the usually pink and blue haired activists advocate affect our food supply? They say that CO2 levels only affect climate, in the ways that they hold as gospel (and will cancel you for if questionned), and it won't in any way affect our food supply. Government and billionaire funded climatologists are probably able to come up with models to support that. As they managed to come up with models that output hockey stick temperature charts  regardless of input weather data.

Climate Change is much more a political tool (against humanity) than some sort of fact we can really affect.
When a celestial body decides to come say hi, no CO2 level can keep that last ice from melting. And even if we could make all the rain fall on the poles where it turns to ice, so our harvests fail, it will still not help us out against such celestial objects. Earth is along for the ride. The Sun sets the course and turns on the light, exactly as brightly as it likes, and it's NOT a stable factor, much as we wish it were. And if we were to manufacture lower CO2 levels, if such can even be done, it would still not give us "better" or "stable" climate, because a good climate brings eternal change.
Activists want all to change or be destroyed, our fertility levels, our joys of life, our religion, remove our liberties (even if they call themselves liberals). But somehow, climate is the one thing they want to be the same as...before. Some magical time that never was or will be, but it's OUR fault that we're not there anymore.
From where I'm sitting, Climate Change is now the largest religion on Earth.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 17, 2023, 02:53:34 PM

From where I'm sitting, Climate Change is now the largest  FALSE religion on Earth.

I fixed it for you.


Climate change is just as big a hoax as the so-called vax shots.  Both have been promoted to try and make people think they have to depend on someone else to look out for them.  NO THANKS!!  I'll look to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for any help I need.  Not a bunch of greedy politicians.


Carroll

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 17, 2023, 01:26:30 PM
It's a bit mindblowing to see that people looking for overunity - in defiance of scientific dogma -

are actually pro-Ukraine, believe the superiority of nowadays Western "democracy" (and I stress nowadays) , believe in overpopulation and climate change - in acceptance of all the other woke bullshit themes.

However, I don't give a damn. I am here for overunity. Find a solution, build a solution, go off the grid and actually thrive in freedom off the grid. Survive globalism. Survive in the body, but far more important, resist until the end.

That is, refusal to submit to everything the current "democracy" is crazy for:
- refuse to vaxx in the name of an ideology, but furthermore, refuse to have my DNA changed
- refuse to believe in overpopulation - the earth has plenty of resources for us all
- refuse to believe in "climate change" as a result of human day to day activities
- refuse to believe that we whites are the scum of the earth
- refuse to support Ukraine and hate Russia
- refuse to take the digital ID
- refuse to relinquish any private property

And get out before they take all my money to give me a CBDC monthly allocation.

"For at the time of the antichrist, the place of the idols will be taken by political power, which will ask submission to itself" (Saint Ermoghen of Tobolsk)

And I think there is nothing more clear that these satanists have nothing more on their mind than to make us all submit.
Like mayor DeBlasio said "The voluntary phase is over". Idea being: we tried to explain, we tried to make you submit willingly out of fear or conformity, but if you have not done it in defiance, now it's the time of the whip.
They finished making states submit with their goddamn neoliberalism, and now they target the individual.

May they burn in the everlasting fire when all ends. I want to survive and resist just to delight in that scene, to see the archangel throwing these globalist bastards there.

You are probably Russian (who is called "Vanka, who does not remember kinship").
Ukraine is a country within the original Rus', which included other territories (neither Novgorod nor Muscovy were part of Rus'). The tsar, the false Peter the Great, stole the name, calling Muscovy Russia. Muscovy consisted of Ugric-Finnish peoples, mostly aliens. Therefore, all predictions that relate to Rus' have nothing to do with Russia.
Russia is a cancer of mankind. Just imagine what the peoples of Russia have become under Putin.
The pseudo-Russian inhabitants of Russia have nothing human, katsaps (in Turkic, flayers). The Soviet Union is a solid Gulag. Everything that was good was under the Ukrainian Brezhnev.
The entire Russian army is 10 times worse than the Nazi SS. Russian fascism is modern Russia.
Tom wouldn't blather about others, he'd rather look in the mirror.

Cloxxi 
I have considered these climate activists a tremendous asset ( from our FE perspective)


  They would bring back the guillotine for any government officials  that would try to stop
The technology we seek !


One thing is certain... humanity is racing towards ...?
Something quite incredible , where all things will indeed be possible !


Today I read here about "time" as something we should try to play with ( a post from DogOne)
Why not ...?
Actually a while back there was a scientist I tried to get involved in some
Projects here , an elderly fellow that had been involved in Area 51


I was told he preferred to follow his own research at this time..
He was actually playing with time ...
I thought it an odd area ( silly me)


Gonna get back in touch now ( for suggestions!;)


What an amazing time to "be " .....
Respectfully
Chet K

 It is  very unfortunate  that dinosaurs and prehuman  vegetarian animals died out.
Humans are killing their own and other  mammals they belong too.

Hey .. you know who you are... You don't  have to  eat meat right?
Pigs are  quite intelligent   mammals, so are  orangutans and so on
Most likely  -You all didn't  even  deserve to be called "pigs." - Pigs don't kill and don't eat killed animals meat, 
although they are mammals too.
Man often does it for pleasure....
By the way dear animals  on this forum - you can't be offended by words from above.
It is OFFICIAL SCIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!
And many of you are likely  scientifically rejected  "stators" ..

Climate is changing due to global warming - activity of human animal.
Dear  Alan :Axial precession is cyclic event, having nothing to do with  climate change.
_______________________________________

Punishment  some of  commenters are talking about  needs at first  existence  of "The Punisher "
with his entire horde of  these imaginary good and bad vassals/servants  -  the figures in this fairy tale story that is consuming time ,
minds and money, of these - hoping for better while in fear of worse if they don't  obey .
It is the Fear that makes them to act...
Happy  Papua villagers and Amazonian Forrest natives, will not be punished for not  being introduced
to  your fears  .


rakarskiy is absolutely right!!!!Thank you very much for your comment.
By the way 
The international criminal court (ICC) in The Hague has issued today an arrest warrant
for Vladimir Putin for overseeing the abduction of Ukrainian children,
In the effect Putin  will never visit any other country to the end of his life...( maybe China but I don't think so)
No more G7. G20,  nothing... No diplomatic immunity for criminals.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes)


Wesley

fxeconomist

QuoteIt's a bit mindblowing to see that people looking for overunity - in defiance of scientific dogma -
are actually pro-Ukraine, believe the superiority of nowadays Western "democracy" (and I stress nowadays) , believe in overpopulation and climate change - in acceptance of all the other woke bullshit themes.

In most free countries Pro Ukraine really means Anti third world communist cesspools like Russia. Here in the western world we have real men not cowards which is why we kicked out all the authoritarian dictators a long time ago. Let's be honest only cowards would cower to a bunch of old men in government like Putin dictating there freedom. Russia and China are a farce, they claim to be strong and free but hide in fear afraid to criticize there leaders like we always do simply because we can.

I think it's comical, Russia and China calling the western world and there allies weak. Uhm... were not the ones pissing in our pants afraid to criticize our leaders and we call them out every chance we get. They own there cowardice not us.

AC

You guys are going to have back out of your myopic, blindered views and
see it all from the 70K level.

Things are happening for a reason - worldwide - the world is is changing!

You complain about how things are now; but refuse to see why things are
happening in front of your eyes - look around fella's - it's all out there...

You only have to look for yourselves. Things will change, for the better,
that we know!

Quote from: stivep on March 17, 2023, 05:55:21 PM
rakarskiy is absolutely right!!!!Thank you very much for your comment.
By the way 
The international criminal court (ICC) in The Hague has issued today an arrest warrant
for Vladimir Putin for overseeing the abduction of Ukrainian children,
In the effect Putin  will never visit any other country to the end of his life...( maybe China but I don't think so)
No more G7. G20,  nothing... No diplomatic immunity for criminals.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/17/vladimir-putin-arrest-warrant-ukraine-war-crimes)
Wesley

Interesting is that  Piotr  Hofmanski the Judge and President of International Criminal Court in Hague is POLISH !!!
and Poland formerly occupied by  Russian - Soviets is now the most  shining  country  in economic  growth in  EU.
Wesley

Would you be pissed if another country put in a spying Government dictatorship right on your boarder. This is exactly what the US did to Ukraine in 2014 during the lousy racist Obama butt head era and greedy China Joe Biden days. The good thing was at least Hunter Biden had enough money to buy an 8 ball size crack rock lol!

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 18, 2023, 10:46:07 AM
Would you be pissed if another country put in a spying Government dictatorship right on your boarder. This is exactly what the US did to Ukraine in 2014 during the lousy racist Obama butt head era and greedy China Joe Biden days. The good thing was at least Hunter Biden had enough money to buy an 8 ball size crack rock lol!

The thing about Putin Apologists is that they aren't smart enough to avoid being so obviously so. If they were to be, then they wouldn't be Putin Apologists.

Wait, if you know the history, a civil war will soon begin in the Russian Federation, and the peoples will be liberated from the "happy" Russian world. (cause and investigation)
And Ukraine was already preparing for a war with Russia in 1993-95. We always knew that sooner or later a Russian bastard with weapons would come to our house.
If not for the traitors, this war would not have happened.
Russia made its first attempts to threaten Ukraine under Yeltsin.
Russians are always bad when someone is good.
in 1922, according to the census of the communist camp (Soviet Russia), there were 80 million Ukrainians in the occupied territories, and only 78 million Russians.
today there are a little more than 40 million Ukrainians in Ukraine.
So the Russian is a biological inhuman killer.

Are the Kremlin people ready to give Putin to the world? This is their chance to change. The world would certainly then return to doing business with Russia. If this does not happen, it means that the power in the Kremlin is too great and we can only expect worse things.
Putin is now in a very weak position. Probably the weakest.

Quote from: r2fpl on March 18, 2023, 11:37:21 AM
Are the Kremlin people ready to give Putin to the world?

Reminiscent of Mussolini's end. I am also reminded of Claus von Stauffenberg.

Quote from: Paul-R on March 18, 2023, 11:45:18 AM
Reminiscent of Mussolini's end. I am also reminded of Claus von Stauffenberg.

It remains to be seen whether Putin will survive.
They can invoke Putin's removal from office, but will they?
It will also be a test for the Russians.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 18, 2023, 10:46:07 AM
Would you be pissed if another country // spying Government// dictatorship //.

Talking about your motivation:
The days go by , and  it looks like your excellent English skills are not staying the same throughout .. are you being help?
:)
"it is worth it"
How long will  such benefiting activity last..?
____________________________________________________

<sub>- it is just  a very much  innocent question.. of an average American:

Milošević who faced 66 counts of crimes against humanity died in prison while waiting for sentencing .
Putin , (like al-Gaddafi, and Saddam Husein,) is hunted  by international law, in 123 countries, since yesterday
for kidnapping  of 16 thousands of Ukrainian children .
and  you dare to  put on the table him being unhappy with Ukrainian Maidan now?</sub>
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575310/#msg575310

Wesley

It is so freaking funny ...to watch all comments here...mostly the ones denying there is a BIG CLIMATE CHANGE taking place in front of our own eyes!!
Also the ones commenting on Putin's favor...and against Ukraine...
Against DEMOCRACY...and in favor of DICTATORSHIPS!!
It is just like all the IDIOT people saying after the huge snow storm on the Northwest side of US..."Oh, and where is the heat wave generated by the climate change??!!"...And so whinning about it is false, fake, "a religion"...LOL

Just look at BOTH Earth Poles size...compared to the last 10-15 years...is it INCREASING?...NOOOPE, it is freaking decreasing everytime more and more...at a RATE, never seen before...So, you do NOT need to be a Scientist to know what's going on here....basically, you do NOT even need to be "brilliant" to know.

These "snow storms out of season"...is nothing more than the reminiscence of our Poles last breaking Icebergs...melting down to the South...

And related to "Politics" (my last name)...
First thing, is to bring out the freaking odd character that used to be the US "wannabe" Dictator...the Orange Clown Ex POTUS...tRump...

First thing this Orange Clown added -on his media, (cause he was dumped, banned from all others)- right after Putin started the war on Ukraine (on Feb last year)...was to open his filthy loose mouth and let free his disgusting tongue...to say "He (Putin) was a very savvy man, very intelligent, and that he should have done that much earlier..."
It don't matter if after realizing his huge mistake (Or his tongue not being properly "engaged" with his brain(whatever is left)...this huge A-Hole, try to "repair" whatever He said...

I only wish that Trump get arrested on Tuesday (I really have no idea WHY he has not been arrested WAY BEFORE!!)...and Wednesday and so throughout all the year...cause He has soo many cases left open, in soo many different fields of illegal shit he has done, that there would not be enough time to serve on his lousy life left.

And so, maybe a bunch of White Supremacists and low life's will go to the streets on Tuesday if the Clown gets arrested (He is already asking for protests like He also did on January Six (6))...armed with AR-15's and AKM's...which by the way, should have been banned long time back...but due to all the lobbying money from the NRA...plus all the support that mostly corrupt Republicans sold out to NRA...can not be finished.
Those rifles are meant to be used On the WAR FIELD, and not on peaceful cities!!!

If you really want to use one of those rifles...then enroll the Ukranian Forces...or nope, a  mistake, they are all against supporting Ukraine, sorry...I meant enroll with Putin Mercenaries...and go to war against Ukraine.

If they have the "balls" to do so...which I honestly doubt it.

Ufopolitics

I love your comment Ufopolitics
Wesley

Now, on his recent rallies, this Orange Clown is "presenting himself as the World God Gift to Humanity"..the "Saviour" the only person on Earth, who would prevent Us all, from a Third World War...OMG!! that is sooo freaking funny!!

He is also saying that "If He would have been in power, the war on Ukraine would have never taken place..."...big big laugh...LOL.
Of course, there would have never been a war on Ukraine, if this Clown would have been President!!
Of course NOT!!...Just because this Clown would have giving Ukraine -served in a silver platter- to his love Putin...

First thing the Orange Clown did, when in power, was to brake away from NATO...no longer having to abide nor protect any ALLIES in NATO territories.
Second thing was to brake away from the Paris Accord...on Climate Change.
Third thing He tried (but was not able to finish, thanks God!!) was also to brake away from the World Health Organization...
Fourth thing tRump tried, was to charge "a fee" to ALL Countries who would seek for US protection...just like Hired, Private Mercenaries do (like WAGNER Putin's contracted mercenaries)...contracted and paid to act...that is what he wanted the US Army, the US Navy plus the Air Forces to become...Paid Mercenaries.

So, guys, it very simple to "identify here" who is who?...and where they are all trying to lead Us all into...

It is so simple...:

1-If you are against Climate Change...
2-If You are  Pro Trump...
3-If You are Pro Russian, or against helping Ukraine (same shit, different color)...

Then You are automatically "Pro Oil Burning", Pro Oil extracting, Pro Oil exploitation to the max...a typical "drill baby drill"...no matter, if on this course, we will davastate all our left beautiful Natural Sanctuaries, like the one tRump wanted to fulfill...the Keystone Oil Duct...breaking the Us territory in exactly half...

And then, I am very sorry, but NEVER, you could tell me or anyone here...that you are all for OU, or Free Energy search and development...if you BELONG in just one of the three categories above...NOPE!!

So, You are either:

A- A Paid Shill, trying to deviate Us all from the right paths...
Or
B- An Idiot who does not know his elbow from his toe...

Sorry, but it is either White or Black...no "mid tones of grey" allowed here.

I would finish like the Hollywood movies write at the end of their films...

"Any similarity with reality above or if you feel you fit into any of the above...is purely coincidental..."


Ufopolitics

A CLOWN'S FEAR...TO BE ARRESTED (PLEASE BRING YOUR FAVORITE TOOTHBRUSH AND FANCY TOWELS TO COURT)

Here, this Clown is now calling for another "Insurrection" type January Six...this time because he is afraid going to jail...for paying a Prostitute and ex  XXX Rated Movie Star, Stormy Daniels...with Hush Money, taken from campaign funds...just to keep her mouth shot, not to make his "secret date/affair" a scandal...LOL.

"Take our Nation back!!"...is a  call for Insurrection if they put the Orange Clown behind bars...it is just a shame that the "Oath Keepers", the "Proud Boys" and so all others, are -majority- in Prison as well...not being able to fulfill the clown desires to go to insurrection...

I guess calling Giuliani -to defend him- will not work either...he is attending another court case and probably also jail time, because of involvement as well in more tRump corruption...plus maybe even be desabarred from attorneys license in the future.

As his "Ex-Legal Dog", Michael Cohen, would now sit on the Prosecuter's side as a primary witness...lol


I only wish they also call Stormy Daniels to testify...then it would be hilarious.
Then it would be a better show than Johnny Dep and Amber Heard...lol

Technology..incentives
Results : Rwanda


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWDNBu9DkU (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWDNBu9DkU)


Hope for the future!( applications of new technologies ( FE ? I hope


Not so much all doom and gloom .


Did not post this to poke
Just a different kind of woke ( hopefully awaken to possibilities "some would rather
Not admit ( the string pullers who prefer us at each other's throats (


Respectfully
Chet K

What is amazing is the foolish tendency for people to actually believe the media's BS after all these years of mountain size lies and BS from the Democrats since god knows when. The corruption in our Government is pathetic and 90% of them belong in prison if not in front of a firing squad and you have the Audacity to pick the only one that actually had our country to the highest level in 60 years.

Aside the fact that three bus loads of Antifa was sighted by many people near the white house and the fact that the doors were opened by security officers not controlled by him. There is even a video of a person cutting a security fence which was more likely an Antifa person since most if not all of them are hired and paid by SOROS. Which it seems Pelosi had a part in this also so Yes it was all a set up.

So ask yourselves why is not all those Democrat Traitors not in jail for selling our country out to the highest bidder and screwing the tax payers to no end.

I say stupid is stupid does and it seems the shoe fits.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 18, 2023, 08:16:23 PM
What is amazing is the foolish tendency for people to actually believe the media's BS after all these years of mountain size lies and BS // since god knows when. The corruption in our Government is pathetic and 90% of them belong in prison if not in front of a firing squad and you have the Audacity to pick the only one that actually had our country to the highest level in 60 years.

Are you talking about Russia now?
I assume you do and you are quite right.
Одработиваеш подачку  да ?
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575316/#msg575316 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575316/#msg575316)
Wesley

Quote from: stivep on March 18, 2023, 10:02:09 PM
Are you talking about Russia now?
I assume you do and you are quite right.
Одработиваеш подачку  да ?
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575316/#msg575316 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575316/#msg575316)
Wesley

Nope, Wesley, IMIGHTKNOW (NOTHING?) is referring strictly to USA, and He or She is a MAGA type, Pro Trump...

I do not need any media BS, nor FOX News nor CNN...just need to hear the individual from his own filthy mouth and spitting tongue, express himself, to know exactly what kind of bullshitter, fraud, and a bluffer, (air blow) tRump is...
Please do not insult the intelligence of all people reading here.
So, now ANTIFA and BLM are also part of the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys??...LOL
There are PLENTY of videos from the 6th of January on record...to know exactly who all this attackers to our Democracy were...
The guy with a patched eye...the main leader of Oath Keepers...is now serving time because of SEDITION on 1/6/2020
Also one of the main leader from Proud Boys, Henry Tarrios...was on 1/6/2021...

January 6th was a clear attempt to a Coup d' Etat to the Democracy of the USA...and Trump was the MAIN INSTIGATOR, THE MAIN LEADER on this Operation!!
Reason WHY, He should have been in jail a very long time ago!!!
All others who are doing time now from the 6th, are there thanks to tRump...so WHY this A-Hole is not already doing time??
If I have to criticize Democrats, I would do it from the point they are all a bunch of COWARDS, who can not get this a-hole in jail, PLUS all others involved on the SENATE and Congress...

Our Democracy was attacked on 1/6/2021 by a bunch of armed drunkards, ex convicts, ex military, ex BStters!!

I can not, NEVER WILL, EVER, sympathize with anyone who loves Kim Jong Un (North Korea), Xi Jin Ping (China) and Putin (Russia)!!!
And the Orange Clown tRump LOVED all this three studges DICTATORS!!
It reminds me of another Dictator...Fidel Castro, who also loved this exactly same three studges!!
What a "coincidence"!!!

Funny where your solid proof, you have none other than your extremely bigoted opinion. Seems your ignorance has enslaved you to hatred so sorry to see and hear that.
If you have proof then by all means post it. ;D

"and He or She is a MAGA type, Pro Trump"
First off I have your "SHE" right here between my legs waiting for you. Sorry to burst your little hatred bubble there fella but I seek truth not media lies and hype. Nor the massive lies from Democrat that should be in prison or in front of a firing squad for treason. Your a typical uninformed American and your research is as good as your Figuera build..... COMPLETE FAILURE! ;D

tRump on Wind Generators:

"Oh and this wind generators cause cancer...I have seen many birds death right below this wind generators..."

And there are more stupidity from this A-Hole...like tRump on hurricanes (path plus how to terminate them...lol)...tRump on Energy...tRump on COVID19 (drinking clorox as a solution?...lol)

Only an idiot will follow another idiot...then come here to bluff that "IKNOW"...
It is easy to spot most people who follow tRump, either never made it through High School...or their max level was Elementary School...just watch their grammar on the Rallies, on their P/Up Trucks, etc,etc...it is a joke, plain and simple.

You sound a lot like someone I knew...
And that I helped as well...on his build...
Aren't you MARATHONMAN??
Except now you are no longer writing "currant" anymore...??

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 19, 2023, 12:10:53 PM
...your research is as good as your Figuera build..... COMPLETE FAILURE! ;D

At least, I BUILT IT!!...Plus I have TIME STAMPED VIDEO PROOF...

DID YOU?

If you did...then show "Your successful Figuera Video(s)!!

Put your videos where your BIG Mouth is!!

Otherwise is just another "bluff"...
Oh, and do not tell us (again) that they broke into your house and stole everything...lol

Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory bubble but no I am not but I do know of him and have read his posts. He seems to be much nicer then you are that's for sure.

"Only an idiot will follow another idiot."

Extremely on point and exactly why I don't follow you. ;D

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 19, 2023, 12:50:30 PM
Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory bubble but no I am not but I do know of him and have read his posts. He seems to be much nicer then you are that's for sure.

"Only an idiot will follow another idiot."

Extremely on point and exactly why I don't follow you. ;D

OMG, I am so sorry to hear that you are not following me  :'(    !!...LOL
Glad I only have like 7.5K Followers... ;D

But, then please, show Us...We are waiting...enlighten Us all!!

Dear IMIGHTKNOW - using  on line translator is not  a crime, but not knowing how to copy and paste  is ridiculous.

Quote from: Ufopolitics on March 19, 2023, 11:35:23 AM
Nope, Wesley, IMIGHTKNOW (NOTHING?) is referring strictly to USA, and He or She is a MAGA type, Pro Trump...

Tra*pists unlikely use  high flying exotic British mix with Australian  and at the same time make mistakes  in writing of a simple words.
The guy  doesn't speak  American and doesn't write English  "I assume.." :)

I would "rather" agree to this opinion below with both hands:

Quote from: Paul-R on March 19, 2023, 06:28:54 AM
There you are.
"He" isn't an individual but a Putin shill group.

<sub>read from here: https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575316/#msg575316 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575316/#msg575316)
or if you want full analysis of the guy activity
you may read from here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575310/#msg575310 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg575310/#msg575310)
from that I assumed  that the  guy is technically flat and   he  is  producing much noise when politicizing.
I know that many students in Russia work as a trolls for $50 per week

YouTube channels, clips he is referring to ( while making grammatical error again) - have only Russian clips hard to understand for non Russian  language speaker.
/ (https://www.youtube.com/@creasysee/videos) link: so he must of (https://www.youtube.com/@creasysee/videos)</sub>  understand it. _{( phrase typically American)
Note: In British: it will likely  be  "must have.."}

Interesting is also analysis of a time of his daily activity :) Very much non-American :)

Quote_{Last Active: March 19, 2023, 06:03:17 PM of Hamburg Germany  Time - it is  two  hours   later  in Moscow and Saint Petersburg .}

<sub>Typical to student  after hours
I did also compare it to typical  activities of our Russian friends participating  in this forum - quite nicely.
Friends from Ukraine activity varies  for about 1h in average  - that makes  it  even easier  for me  to calculate.
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/russia (https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/russia)

opinion expressed is my own.</sub>
Wesley

Quote from: ramset on March 17, 2023, 03:32:25 PM
Cloxxi 
I have considered these climate activists a tremendous asset ( from our FE perspective)


  They would bring back the guillotine for any government officials  that would try to stop
The technology we seek !


One thing is certain... humanity is racing towards ...?
Something quite incredible , where all things will indeed be possible !


Today I read here about "time" as something we should try to play with ( a post from DogOne)
Why not ...?
Actually a while back there was a scientist I tried to get involved in some
Projects here , an elderly fellow that had been involved in Area 51


I was told he preferred to follow his own research at this time..
He was actually playing with time ...
I thought it an odd area ( silly me)


Gonna get back in touch now ( for suggestions!;)


What an amazing time to "be " .....
Respectfully
Chet K

I like that approach.
Still, I can't bring myself to write copy promoting how a OU tech is CO2 displacing and will thus save the planet.

But yes, I will underline the reduced resources being used up, birds and fish killed by turbines, land used up by solar arrays, less transport of fuels, fewer cleaning agents for maintenance and great recycling % after full life cycle. All this things actually make sense to want to optimize.

Anyone love those stripes in the skies? When Russia ended the Donbass genocide late Feb 2022, here in Europe we had the first clear blue skies in YEARS, one day to the next. It lasted a few months, no stripes that grow into overcast.
By now the stripes are back.
We have seen that the Russians have uncovered and/or targeted "unclear use" biolabs/factories in UKR, whether those were producting the stripes or not. All I witnessed, was a few months of clear skies, like when I was a kid and jets left stripes that disappeared rather quickly and never spread out to full cloud cover.

Bill Gates in his infinite wisdom not too long ago proposed to spray some strip-agent into the skies to keep the Sun from heating up the Earth. He's going to save us from global warming doom!!! Of course the time of day to block the Sun is vital. We see strips forming throught the day and then producting a blanket cover going into the night when there is no Sun to block out, just the cold void of space.

Words in black  from below comment are components of  structure:

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 20, 2023, 06:27:55 AM
a OU tech is CO2 displacing and will thus save the planet.//
//birds and fish killed by turbines,// land used up by solar arrays,//

And than  they intensifies:

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 20, 2023, 06:34:56 AM
stripes in the skies? When Russia ended the Donbass genocide late Feb 2022,
Russians have uncovered and/or targeted "// biolabs/factories in UKR, (- Ukraine)
Bill Gates  spray some strip-agent into the skies.

Coxxki  is spreading FAKE  on the top of more FAKE...


"These" Russians perfected  trolls team work  in a social platform .
I saw or supported ban  of many of them in this forum  .
And yes they use  plenty of Serbians too. - just money and they are cheap.

Short summary of coxxki  comment, 
based on  fat print words:
Russian aggression  killed or made homeless millions of Ukrainians 
and since   Hague court order in last Friday - Putin is hunted by international law sighed by 123 countries, for  kidnapping 16000
of Ukrainian Children.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 20, 2023, 06:34:56 AM
Russia ended the Donbass genocide late Feb 2022,

Here is the  historic truth:
Russian aggressors  spreed fake about non-existing Ukrainian  biolabs working with bio-weapons, to explain their  invasion.

Donbass was Ukrainian land  attacked and occupied in 2014 and than in 2022 annexed by Russia.
Due to  the genocide of Ukrainian nation  made by Russians - 2.73 millions of  Ukrainian Children
and  their relatives  found shelter in Poland, while their husbands  fathers and grandpas are  losing their life fighting with Russian Aggressors.
For the last  3 months Russia was destroying Ukrainian electric power infrastructure with drones and  rockets .- To make  Ukrainian suffering
in cold winter even more killing nationwide.
And that NATIONWIDE  killing and  torturing  is a genocide made by Russians !!!



I'm going to analyze Cloxxki activity and  I may vote for his removal from this forum.

opinion expressed is my own.
Wesley

Quote from: stivep on March 20, 2023, 08:00:08 AM

I'm going to analyze Cloxxki activity and  I may vote for his removal from this forum.

You might include IMIGHTKNOW or more accurately, HEDOESNTKNOW. Sooner or later, there should be a discovery on this site. It needs to retain some credibility.

Cloxxki

QuoteStill, I can't bring myself to write copy promoting how a OU tech is CO2 displacing and will thus save the planet.

Like any sufficiently advanced technology it takes time and it's not for everyone. Think of it this way, how many other cutting edge technologies do you have?, probably none. So if your not intelligent or capable enough to build any other technologies why would you think free energy is any different?.

In effect, free energy is more about striving to do better and improve things rather than wallowing in your own misery. Think of all the poor people living in cramped dirty housing in communist shit holes like China or Russia. Cheap clean energy could drastically improve there lives versus being held hostage by the government and oil/gas corporations. It's about freedom, real men demand there individual freedom while the rest are just cowards who dream of freedom.

I think of energy this way, only primitive people need to hunt and gather limited resources and burn stuff for energy.

The more hunting and gathering involved the more primitive and uneducated the people usually are. This is true because only primitive people run around chasing food and resources just like in the stone ages. Intelligent people don't hunt and gather food or energy they farm or produce there own.

Communism is the opposite of this and wants to keep everyone uneducated and totally reliant on the government for everything like little children. Real men would never submit to being obedient little peons being told what to do and how to do it. This is for children not real men who demand there own freedom and independence in every respect. So it's pretty obvious why most communists or dictatorships could never allow anything like free energy. All there slaves might get ideas about being real men, free men like in the western world. In effect a persons absolute freedom is directly related to there intelligence.

AC

Old school communism is better at offering warm housing than modern Western communism that sabotages a Russian financed and built pipeline, to blame on Russia, and make energy expensive or unavailable to Westerners.
The key to comfortable living is more so in insulation and ventilation, hardly alchemy, than in energy supply. Case in point: the iglu.

I used to read up a lot about aerogels. Extemely characterics such as heat/sound insulation. The lightest solid is an aerogel. While fragile, it's super physical resource efficient. A couple kilograms of aerogel would insulate the heck out of a house.

While it takes sublight, I've seen a 10 W  fan stuck (forced air) into a 15 meter black 10cm plastic hose to provide huge volume of warm air on a winter's day. When the sun is out, a super efficient way to hear a space. Then there's heat pumps, chemical processes, loads of ways to unlock heat.

The stuff we accept as "housing" is just a great way to pump hot air into the atmosphere. Like an internal cumbustion engine is just a furnace with residual rotation.

Quote from: stivep on March 20, 2023, 08:00:08 AM
Words in black  from below comment are components of  structure:
And than  they intensifies:  Coxxki  is spreading FAKE  on the top of more FAKE...

I'm going to analyze Cloxxki activity and  I may vote for his removal from this forum.

opinion expressed is my own.
Wesley

Shall we vote for the removal of Stefan too?

Wesley, please give it a rest.  We know your opinion and I'm glad you
have one.  Others have opinions as well.  They don't have to be fact.
We surely don't need a call of arms over them.

Quote from: stivep on March 17, 2023, 06:04:09 AM


Nothing is perfect but comparing to Russia We The Americans are in  the world of Russian dreams.

Wesley

Wesley, позвоните pls Свинскому https://forum.awd.ru/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2 (https://forum.awd.ru/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2),скажите что он неправ.

Cloxxki

QuoteOld school communism is better at offering warm housing than modern Western communism that sabotages a Russian financed and built pipeline, to blame on Russia, and make energy expensive or unavailable to Westerners.
The key to comfortable living is more so in insulation and ventilation, hardly alchemy, than in energy supply. Case in point: the iglu.

Here is the obvious problem with communism, quality of life and energy.

Here in Canada we have carbon taxes and a mandate to go electric in the form of solar/wind/hydro power, heat pumps and EV's within a decade or so. It's unrealistic and some might say impossible however that's not the point. Rather than whining it can't be done most people I know see this as an opportunity to develop new businesses and technology. The old school mentality and the status quo no longer applies and the best person with the best ideas that work is going to dominate.

In fact, the amount of change I'm seeing locally is mind boggling and massive solar/wind farms are popping up everywhere. I'm also seeing EV's everywhere and people putting solar panels on there roofs. The stats say there will be more new jobs in the renewable energy sector than the available jobs in fossil fuel industry within 5 years.

If nothing else this shows us what people here and elsewhere are thinking and most are on board with moving forward. The word is also out that most communist countries like China and Russia are going bankrupt. The technology landscape has changed and a large under educated work force has become a huge liability. Large automated robotic factories can now do the same work cheaper, better and faster locally. Let's be honest, communism was just a crappy way to produce cheap near slave labor but that doesn't cut it any more. Most of there jobs will be replaced by automation/robotics running on clean energy in the near future.

I'm not sure what this means long term, what happens when some move 100 years into the future due to technology while many others have gone nowhere?.

AC

AC,

I really wish you were right; however my SVB (Sicone Valley Bank) US tech investments are, well, now gone - caput' -
whereas all the Yaun, Renminbi and Ruble tech investments are still above water! (fingers are crossed X2 - till full exit).
Hopefully the US Gov or FED bails me out (with your tax money - so; thanks a lot - ya gotta love the system).

Hey! Tech investments should not be high risk. That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it...  :D

Things "are-a-changin" for sure. Keep your head up and your powder dry!  :)   And your investments safe... 

 Some information  of how Russian Troll agency work. - Russian Internet Research Agency (IRA)
Student is often   working  under the pressure that his mother or Father will lose  a job and his  sister will not be
able to   graduate if he doesn't perform  as a  troll. Usually this  becomes an issue when student wants to quit.
Outcome is not important to a troll, but number of comments per day- That is what he is payed for.
If there is a goal than - it is to find who is who in given platform.
Destruction  is  the purpose of Russian trolls activity.
Russia is losing the war, Putin is worldwide politically dead body hunted by International  Criminal Court. He can  travel nowhere .
since last Friday.  In worse situation  Russia might be divided on number of small countries again.


Trolls  often stay  "quiet" till they get 1k of comments.
Than there is a time for few new  to show up and create the mess. _{( often that is the same guy under different nickname)}
In some critical moment these  "1000+ comment "Trolls starts  to support them.
Attacking mostly me SolarLab was under moderation but he was given a chance,  his other companions didn't.
Dear Dog-One I didn't  present an opinion up there but historical facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency)
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390 (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43093390)

Wesley

Quote from: onepower on March 20, 2023, 05:28:29 PM
Cloxxki
Here is the obvious problem with communism, quality of life and energy.

Here in Canada we have carbon taxes and a mandate to go electric in the form of solar/wind/hydro power, heat pumps and EV's within a decade or so. It's unrealistic and some might say impossible however that's not the point. Rather than whining it can't be done most people I know see this as an opportunity to develop new businesses and technology. The old school mentality and the status quo no longer applies and the best person with the best ideas that work is going to dominate.

In fact, the amount of change I'm seeing locally is mind boggling and massive solar/wind farms are popping up everywhere. I'm also seeing EV's everywhere and people putting solar panels on there roofs. The stats say there will be more new jobs in the renewable energy sector than the available jobs in fossil fuel industry within 5 years.

If nothing else this shows us what people here and elsewhere are thinking and most are on board with moving forward. The word is also out that most communist countries like China and Russia are going bankrupt. The technology landscape has changed and a large under educated work force has become a huge liability. Large automated robotic factories can now do the same work cheaper, better and faster locally. Let's be honest, communism was just a crappy way to produce cheap near slave labor but that doesn't cut it any more. Most of there jobs will be replaced by automation/robotics running on clean energy in the near future.

I'm not sure what this means long term, what happens when some move 100 years into the future due to technology while many others have gone nowhere?.

AC

On the generation side, I can imagine wind and solar are much more labor intensive than large scale power stations.
A lot of people work in oil mining and surveying, though.
In mobility, BEV are said to be lower maintenance.
More jobs is great if you're into communism, but on the technological side, it's a symptom of inefficiency.

I do believe that once a decent magnet motor, the rotating kind, sees a larger scale deployment, both cost /MW and overall cost /kWh can dip well below conventional and renewable sources. Costing jobs, but freeing up disposable income for 8 billion people, a billion or so and fighting famine day by day. Cheaper more portable energy from an OU device will make farming (irrigation) more accessible, even on sub-par farmlands now considered lost forever.

Once we achieve solid state OU, and crucially: much higher energy densities/kWh, energy will be like present day broadband, just dirt cheap and abundant compared to our dial-up experience not all that long ago.

And the way Wesley welcomes differing opinions from himself, is that closer to capitalism, communism, or fascism? Some other ism I'm omitting from the list?

Chat GPT, which political ideology is best know for opposing differing voices and removing them from society?

Gibberish.  Overunity doesn't exist.
Politics  mixed with  environmentalism
Typical text from a shelf  for multipurpose use  in  photographic form to avoid OCR.
In the title of the picture text - it should be word "known" not "know"... 
~ 1 per 100 000 Russians likely speak some English.
It will be some work to clean the forum  after that.
Wesley 

CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For

The following is from a old lecture but is still valid today.

How to Quickly Spot a "CLOWN" (some insight from the Experts(?)) Just so you can recognize it for what it is.
The term "CLOWN" as used here is generic and includes "TROLLs" and "LARPs,."

Don't get suckered into wasting your time. Hardened anons should already know this stuff; This is
more a crash course for new visitors.

Good stuff to be aware of; even if it would never happen here!

They will:

- Attempt to get a divisive or emotional response from you to derail research.

- Concern troll and copy/pasta spam shill to contradict confirmed findings.

- Employ faux debate tactics: Generalizations, gas-lighting, projection, misdirection, false equivalences, confusing
correlation with causation, appeal to authority, transference, false precepts, personal attacks, straw-men, red herrings, etc.

- Promote social ethics that are disingenuous like doxxing, "reverse psychology", or promoting propaganda.

- Promote tactics that are unethical, illegal or involve methods outside the scope of the Law.

- Employ Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt to dissuade research.

Topic sliding - If information of a valuable or informative nature has been posted on a discussion forum, it can be quickly
removed from public view by topic sliding. 

In this technique a large number of unrelated posts, or posts aimed at diluting the information presented, are submitted in
an effort to trigger a topic slide to literally push content out of view. Operators can control several fake UIDs via the bots they
make use of; these can also be called upon in the other techniques to mask the intent of the operator from the users at large.

Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting, unless the thread is moderated, the post is now lost in a sea of
unrelated and bogus postings.

Seeding bad information - Operatives will insert flawed or bogus information from time to time as an ongoing tactic, depending
on their skill set and the needs of their mission. Their most common ruse is providing information or evidence which is backed by
bad source material in the hope that the "source of the source" is never checked. This serves several objectives,
mainly resource consumption, evidence pollution, discouragement and misdirection.

Astroturfing consensus -This is a technique that attempts to build a manufactured consensus around a flawed set of statements
or compromised information. This is related to consensus cracking, where false evidence is injected in an attempt to dispute or
discredit what the current consensus is, and push it towards the desired false consensus.  Misleading and false evidence and
information are often salted into the evidence pool, with an aim to impede organic consensus building, while also poisoning the
available information and evidence.

Cultivating tacit approval (The legal term for this is 'silent agreement') - Attempting to attain this state is done using a
technique where operators will try to convince the user population to ignore, or not respond to bad information or false assertions.
This is done in a bid to reduce push-back against the above mentioned tactics.

It's worth noting that the reply filtering mechanism of the boards (which currently can't be disabled without code changes from
the site admin) is used as a weapon of sorts in this tactic: Filtering with software prevents anons from defending against seeding
bad information and astroturfing consensus. This is why the CLOWNS (operators) push so hard to condition anons into filtering
material they disagree with.

Also worth noting is it can be proven in many cases that the vast majority of these CLOWNS are well trained, well paid,
some are highly skilled, and they will often accuse you of the very "things" that they, themselves, are engaged in...
and they often work in groups while using numerious synms...

So be vigilant - it only takes one Clown to ruin a discussion or thread. Many good posters will not post or
simply leave once a Clown invades the thread.

Have a good day and happy posting...



Further to my "CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For" post above:

Since many of these Clown/Trolls are paid for posting and sometimes paid even more when you respond to their posts;
they can be quite persistant, as we have all seen, even to the point of being pesky. This is easily observed in many cases.

The best defence against this is to "Simply DO NO RESPOND" to them. Often times they will just "move on to another
thread" where they can gain a little more for their time and effort.

Clown Trolls can be a real problem, but exposing them and knowing how to mitigate their affect on a subject goes
a long way in combating this plague

Cloxxki

QuoteOn the generation side, I can imagine wind and solar are much more labor intensive than large scale power stations.
A lot of people work in oil mining and surveying, though.

A person has to be careful because there is a lot of fake news and propaganda against renewables.

For example, I have worked in the oil and gas sector and power generation so I know how stuff actually works. A power station running on natural gas is dependent on and includes all the wells drilled, compressor stations, Dehydrators and countless miles of leaking pipe. So an average gas well is running $3 million times 300 wells in a small field times 200 plus miles of gas pipe at $1 million a mile plus all associated infrastructure which could easily be depleted by a small 500 megawatt cogen station in around 20 years or so. The problem is the damage due to the pollution generated by the plant could cost more than the billion dollar plus installation cost not including recycling or reclamation.

Solar has a basic one time cost much lower than fossil fuels and has zero fuel running costs. The only pollution is associated with the production and recycling of the materials used. Solar panels don't need to be replaced after 25 years because the power rating is still at 75%. Solar panels only lose about 1% per year and I would gladly buy everyone's used 25 year old panels at 75% power for 75% less cost, it's a real bargain. Everyone is already buying all the used solar panels and EV battery packs. But obviously nobody is buying the used pipeline rotting in the ground, abandoned wells or rusting worn out power stations. 

So let's stop bullshitting everyone and if we added up all the real costs, 100% recycling and reclamation of all infrastructure/land as well as all environmental damage fossil fuels will always lose. Fossil fuels will not just lose but get there ass kicked and handed there hat by renewables.

AC

   Hi !   

This post was posted in the wrong thread due to an error.

                                                         I have moved this post to the correct thread.
https://overunity.com/19405/magnetic-flux-motor-just-patented-that-creates-its-own-electricity/msg575422/#msg575422

                              Best regards Boris                                                         

Quote from: onepower on March 21, 2023, 02:56:02 AM
Solar panels don't need to be replaced after 25 years because the power rating is still at 75%. Solar panels only lose about 1% per year...

This is true but, in all fairness, one should compute in the likelihood that technology will improve and the panels will be scrapped or sold on and replaced with better ones.

Quote from: Paul-R on March 21, 2023, 06:17:26 AM
This is true but, in all fairness, one should compute in the likelihood that technology will improve and the panels will be scrapped or sold on and replaced with better ones.

New technologies have emerged that overshadow solar panels and windmills. And they work 24/7 .

  On the news page, a self-charging ionistor is looking at you . One of the options is under testing. This microscopically sized cell is made specifically to deplete its energy faster. But I'm not succeeding yet, the energy has been coming all the time for more than half a year.  I can't test it for a million years . :)   :)   :)

Quote from: onepower on March 21, 2023, 02:56:02 AM
Cloxxki
A person has to be careful because there is a lot of fake news and propaganda against renewables.

For example, I have worked in the oil and gas sector and power generation so I know how stuff actually works. A power station running on natural gas is dependent on and includes all the wells drilled, compressor stations, Dehydrators and countless miles of leaking pipe. So an average gas well is running $3 million times 300 wells in a small field times 200 plus miles of gas pipe at $1 million a mile plus all associated infrastructure which could easily be depleted by a small 500 megawatt cogen station in around 20 years or so. The problem is the damage due to the pollution generated by the plant could cost more than the billion dollar plus installation cost not including recycling or reclamation.

Solar has a basic one time cost much lower than fossil fuels and has zero fuel running costs. The only pollution is associated with the production and recycling of the materials used. Solar panels don't need to be replaced after 25 years because the power rating is still at 75%. Solar panels only lose about 1% per year and I would gladly buy everyone's used 25 year old panels at 75% power for 75% less cost, it's a real bargain. Everyone is already buying all the used solar panels and EV battery packs. But obviously nobody is buying the used pipeline rotting in the ground, abandoned wells or rusting worn out power stations. 

So let's stop bullshitting everyone and if we added up all the real costs, 100% recycling and reclamation of all infrastructure/land as well as all environmental damage fossil fuels will always lose. Fossil fuels will not just lose but get there ass kicked and handed there hat by renewables.

AC

Indeed, a lot of jobs will be lost in the death of the fussil fuel industry, and from where I'm sitting, renewable are pretty darn efficient on the labor side. You are giving me a longer life span indication on solar than I understood it to be. Assuming you're right, OU will need to simply be even better for it to beat solar.

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 21, 2023, 06:48:47 AM
New technologies have emerged that overshadow solar panels and windmills. And they work 24/7 .

  On the news page, a self-charging ionistor is looking at you . One of the options is under testing. This microscopically sized cell is made specifically to deplete its energy faster. But I'm not succeeding yet, the energy has been coming all the time for more than half a year.  I can't test it for a million years . :)   :)   :)

Have you worked on a large scale design, to assess the materials and equipment needed for 1 MW units?
1 MW of solar is around the $1 million mark, at least when new.
If you can envision a 1 MW system at lower cost, the next question is weight. If light enough, and happy to sit next to many other units working at full capacity, you have yourself a jet fuel alternative. A 5 MW or 10 MW system, it doesn't matter if you need a full railcar of space for that, it just shouldn't be too expensive to build, to power the locomotive 24/7.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 21, 2023, 07:15:01 AM
Have you worked on a large scale design, to assess the materials and equipment needed for 1 MW units?
1 MW of solar is around the $1 million mark, at least when new.
If you can envision a 1 MW system at lower cost, the next question is weight. If light enough, and happy to sit next to many other units working at full capacity, you have yourself a jet fuel alternative. A 5 MW or 10 MW system, it doesn't matter if you need a full railcar of space for that, it just shouldn't be too expensive to build, to power the locomotive 24/7.

I don't need a 1MW energy source . Right now I'm busy with an AA cell for a wireless mouse. Then I need to make a table lamp in which there are no wires and no charging. And it shines forever.  :)  :)  The simple principle of decentralization, each device has its own source of energy forever ...... very simple, but it's hard for me to force myself to overcome laziness ....    :)   :)   :)   :)   :)
             I like reliability and durability, so I chose graphite and silicon electrodes, electric current is generated and chemical reactions do not occur.  :)  :) .....   oops said too much again .... well, it's okay, I think there will be no more than 2 trillion dollars in damage, this is a trifle for the oil and gas industry ......
            It's better for you and me to have less small talk on technical topics.   :)  :)
             
                         

Paul R

QuoteThis is true but, in all fairness, one should compute in the likelihood that technology will improve and the panels will be scrapped or sold on and replaced with better ones.

On the solar panel resale end it doesn't matter if the technology improves.

I don't care if someones new panels are 5% more efficient I only care about my own cost per kilowatt. I was thinking on it more and would even pay $0.10 on the dollar for 50% power/50 year old panels. Sure I need twice as much room for panels but like most rural people I have acres of land to do whatever I want. So I have 40 panels instead on 20, so what?, it means little if I'm generating my own power for next to nothing.

For example, https://solarwholesalellc.com/index.php/product/suntech-200w-solar-panels/
The going new rate for solar panels is $1/watt but these used 200 watt panels sell for $65 or $0.32/watt. Let's say there 15 years old or 85% power for near 70% less cost, it's a bargain.

Do you know what I find most surprising?, most people had no idea there even was a solar panel resale market. They just bought into all the bullshit and propaganda without thinking or checking there facts again. I have had countless clueless people tell me "panels just wear out" like tires or there just scrapped after 20 years or cannot be recycled. It's all nonsense...

AC

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 21, 2023, 07:51:38 AM
  I don't need a 1MW energy source . Right now I'm busy with an AA cell for a wireless mouse. Then I need to make a table lamp in which there are no wires and no charging. And it shines forever.  :) :)  The simple principle of decentralization, each device has its own source of energy forever ...... very simple, but it's hard for me to force myself to overcome laziness ....    :)   :)   :)   :)   :)
             I like reliability and durability, so I chose graphite and silicon electrodes, electric current is generated and chemical reactions do not occur.  :) :) .....   oops said too much again .... well, it's okay, I think there will be no more than 2 trillion dollars in damage, this is a trifle for the oil and gas industry ......
            It's better for you and me to have less small talk on technical topics.   :) :)
             
                       

Decentralization can be great. Unless we figure out a Tesla coil style thingy where we need what I assume is a smaller receiver than device.

For my big love, moblity, I'd like 20 kW and 50 kW units, to put in modest side and larger personal vehicles. Fix them up to your run of the mill PHEV drivetrain, delete the ICE parts and be happy. 22-23 hours a day, you have a power station to sell energy to the grid, earning more than a median wage.
In the xx MW range, we get to power planes and large ships. 6 MW suffices for a train, some trains will need more.

Can what you have be scaled up in an energy dense manner, you think?

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 21, 2023, 04:22:33 PM
Decentralization can be great. Unless we figure out a Tesla coil style thingy where we need what I assume is a smaller receiver than device.

For my big love, moblity, I'd like 20 kW and 50 kW units, to put in modest side and larger personal vehicles. Fix them up to your run of the mill PHEV drivetrain, delete the ICE parts and be happy. 22-23 hours a day, you have a power station to sell energy to the grid, earning more than a median wage.
In the xx MW range, we get to power planes and large ships. 6 MW suffices for a train, some trains will need more.

Can what you have be scaled up in an energy dense manner, you think?

Why would you waste your years and money inventing a Tesla Coil. Take a ready-made and working patent US20140252920A1 .
Outstanding scientists have done a lot of research and achieved incredible success .
              No need to thank me. Write me a message on how the construction of your device for 1 Megawatt is progressing.  :)

The possibilities start getting really interesting, if we factor in what happens when the aluminum frames and silicon cells are manufactured in solar powered facilities.

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 21, 2023, 09:27:11 PM
Why would you waste your years and money inventing a Tesla Coil. Take a ready-made and working patent US20140252920A1 .
Outstanding scientists have done a lot of research and achieved incredible success .
              No need to thank me. Write me a message on how the construction of your device for 1 Megawatt is progressing.  :)

I've been approached by a company that appears to have deployed thousands of units in the multiple MW range, guising as diesel gen set with fixed energy rate. So far no visual confirmation by yours truly, but having been in business as long as they have been (with YouTube video proof of existence, not proof of OU as that's a hush hush thing for them), it's the best thing that I know of. Plenty on here claim to have or have seen OU in action, I'm on the control group of that thus far.
A company that hides their OU genset technology and just sells the energy under market rates, company micro managed by the rightfully paranoid inventor...imagine how hard they might be to deal with even when they as ME for help...then triple it :-D
I'll surely update when I can. They're the opposite of open source though, they're not even claiming OU or that it's a magnet motor. It's kept them small enough to stay under the radar, customers I'm sure are happy to get discounted energy from a more silent if bulky genset. I guess I'll be trying to see whether there is an angle for open sourcing, else I'll do what I can to deploy the technology as wide as possible to at least put countries in the position to sell energy cheaper. Should licenses be given for development of the tech and cross border commerce, healthy competition may well appear, similar to everyday reality for conventional gensets, MGUs, batteries, etc.

The basic (low power) transmitter coils are the 'desktop' toy models
ranging to something from 6-inches tall to 2-3ft in height


Power receivers are exactly the same size as wifi transmitter chips
cheaply available from several manufacturers


basically an antenna, and a small LRC for tuning it to the transmitter freq.
(havent set up one of these systems but i think the software handles the technical stuff)


the problem is range: a small tower only reaches a few to tens of yards.


If you want to transmit across a large distance:
You need to add 2 things to the system


First, a high power transmitter: 4ft+ large diameter coils, and a high current primary


Second, the receivers need to be distance-modified, to handle higher power levels closer to the tower.


There are a few large scale 'Tesla' wireless power systems in operation, but as far as i know each one was designed custom for the application.


low power systems are manufactured, so we can easily buy and set these up,
If we wanted to do some residential use like wirelessly charge your cell phone without the charger pad
(your cell phone already has a power receiver chip in it)


Any a household Tesla coil can be used to drive these chips when they are both tuned to match

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 22, 2023, 05:15:47 AM
Plenty on here claim to have or have seen OU in action, I'm on the control group of that thus far.
A company that hides their OU genset technology

Who is plenty.?
What company you talking about?
give name . location , address.
______________________________________
These questions will likely never be  answered.



Cloxxki you have switched from  Russian propaganda  about
Donbass genocide late Feb 2022 and "Ukrainian" biolabs and so on  into lies about OU.
This is  not Russian waste container,  you can throw any garbage of yours but forum
where  Russian trolls are not welcomed.
Please stop use of word OU and lies  about  OU , as Overunity doesn't exist  .
There is  FE Free Energy from conversion of energy from one form to the other.
Using word FE is welcomed but than I' will ask you specifics about  its particular form.
Please understand  that nobody wants to kick your butt here till your activity is degenerating
its level.

Explaining  that  black cat is the same as a chicken  as both are mammals
or collecting more comment here doesn't help.
Members with 5000+ comments  were excluded from this forum in the past or moderated.

Again I repeat:
OU - Overunity   doesn't exist ,
OU is  physically impossible and it is  the same nonsense as
Anti-gravity, Ether,  perpetual motion, and so on.
Spreading  these lies doesn't   increase your  income... and in this forum an individual is  at first  being
informed   and than eventually he may  be  moderated.
The reason for my action is that physicists, teachers,  high  level professionals  are not happy  to comment
in the forum  contaminated with lies, any lies not only  Russian lies.
Wesley

Wesley if you don't believe into overunity why are you then here ??
Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA

Dear Stefan:
I'm  one of your best supporters  truthfully,  honestly dedicated .
I'm capable of investing my time and my money  into it  or support of  it without any gain but satisfaction.
Thanks to this forum I invested  many thousands of  dollars into  checking, experimenting traveling
around the world , additional lab equipment, and even work of  employee on the project.
For your knowledge:
Costa Rica experiment consumed more than 20k
Lithuania Experiment  consumed ~ 7k
Kapanadze  12k  and I almost died there . YES IT MATTERS TO ME!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That above -is only a few  percent  of my investment I could put that money into a purchase 
of one more house  in New York.. But I didn't

I don't need a position  authority. level or promotion.
I want this place to be worth presenting to   physicists, mechanical engineers, without
me being ashamed  of doing so.
____________________________________________________________________

I'm  in science of facts and   predictable conclusions .
Beliefs are good  in Church but not when you expect applicable value .
Yes I don't believe in Overunity and  overunity doesn't exist.
It's physical existence is   conflicting with  laws of thermodynamics .
I'm here   because  of Free Energy means Energy for free.
Social platform   can be respected  by  scientists if it gives them   place to
communicate,  share and contribute.

But if it becomes  a place with   all trash. I will  quit.

Wesley 

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 22, 2023, 06:49:40 AM
Wesley if you don't believe into overunity why are you then here ??

It's all about definition.
I will repeat Patrick's which is very useful for us and our work:

Energy put out
--------------------= OU rate (possibly expressed as a percentage. 
Energy put in BY YOU

We are all grown ups and do not expect people to piss us off by bringing up heat pumps or PV panels.

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 22, 2023, 06:49:40 AM
...
Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA

We've seen that before. It does not work without power input and provides no useful work output. Why have one?
bi

Quote from: stivep on March 22, 2023, 07:03:24 AM
Dear Stefan:
I'm  one of your best supporters  truthfully,  honestly dedicated .
I'm capable of investing my time and my money  into it  or support of  it without any gain but satisfaction.
Thanks to this forum I invested  many thousands of  dollars into  checking, experimenting traveling
around the world , additional lab equipment, and even work of  employee on the project.
For your knowledge:
Costa Rica experiment consumed more than 20k
Lithuania Experiment  consumed ~ 7k
Kapanadze  12k  and I almost died there . YES IT MATTERS TO ME!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That above -is only a few  percent  of my investment I could put that money into a purchase 
of one more house  in New York.. But I didn't

I don't need a position  authority. level or promotion.
I want this place to be worth presenting to   physicists, mechanical engineers, without
me being ashamed  of doing so.
____________________________________________________________________

I'm  in science of facts and   predictable conclusions .
Beliefs are good  in Church but not when you expect applicable value .
Yes I don't believe in Overunity and  overunity doesn't exist.
It's physical existence is   conflicting with  laws of thermodynamics .
I'm here   because  of Free Energy means Energy for free.
Social platform   can be respected  by  scientists if it gives them   place to
communicate,  share and contribute.

But if it becomes  a place with   all trash. I will  quit.

Wesley

Don't take it out on your space bar like that.
It's an inanimate object.

You want people who think or know differently to you to be cancelled and if one of the most respected (effort, leadership and personal conduct) in the global community (Stefan is, simple as) doesn't act as you tell him to, you'll quit the pursuit of helping out the planet and its occupancy with your efforts towards OU?

You make it really hard for outsiders to see that you're in this for anything but ego.
We can't see inside your head, we don't see the grandure, the immense intellegence and warm heart for all living things.
Your job is to at least make it slightly plausible from the outside that you possess any virtues. No need to overdo the virtue signaling, but doing the opposite never worked for anyway.
Setting standards for others to follow as precursor to do the thing you feel is the right thing to do anyway... I wonder which sage ever taught you that method of self mastery?

If you made it easier for others to see (or at least guess) that you mean well, you wouldn't need to start a message with your self identifications as well meaning supporter.

I suggest a proverbial mirror and just 5 minutes of silence. If the feeling sucks, the good news is that you are indeed the master of your own feelings, thus you can steer them the way you like, right in that moment. Your actions and words will change accordingly. Others CAN assume your sweet and cuddly, and they'd see the effects, but it's not all on them to change you or how you're perceived.

People might now mistakenly perceive you a bit like a guy upturning tables and tearing down shelfs in a store, expressing in passionate words how he means so well and only thinks about the well being of others, and demands to be understood.
Like with the Chinese finger puzzle, pulling harder might not be the answer. A twist of approach, might.

Here A Dr.s opinions on science,physics, antigravity etc etc  and perhaps we hear the word Overunity too ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg)


Dr.Greer
And Danika Patrick
PS
At
104:15 Air Force airbase 1988 showcased older anti gravity ( from 1950's?)
3 anti gravity craft with Mercury era control systems..

At 57:30
Dr Greer writes his solution ( open source lab with live streaming 24/7 365 to share all)
IMO
The entire Vid is incredibly informative ( premiere to his "lost century " data share in June..

Respectfully
Chet K

Quote from: ramset on March 22, 2023, 10:46:26 AM
Here A Dr.s opinions on science,physics, antigravity etc etc  and perhaps we hear the word Overunity too ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg)


Dr.Greer
And Danika Patrick
PS
At
104:15 Air Force airbase 1988 showcased older anti gravity ( from 1950's?)
3 anti gravity craft with Mercury era control systems..

At 57:30
Dr Greer writes his solution ( open source lab with live streaming 24/7 365 to share all)
IMO
The entire Vid is incredibly informative ( premiere to his "lost century " data share in June..

Respectfully
Chet K

Oh wow, Danica...
Curious to see whether she's going to come back on TV after having that guest on...

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 22, 2023, 08:22:20 AM
Don't take it out on your space bar like that.
It's an inanimate object.

.....You want people who think or know differently to you to be cancelled .........

Wow ! so you are a mishandled Russian troll  ?   Tell your story, I'm interested. You work for money or as you wish. You tell such stories at home: You were in enemy territory and engaged in subversive activities   ........     :)   :)   :) 

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 22, 2023, 12:26:53 PM
                 Wow ! so you are a mishandled Russian torll  ?   Tell your story, I'm interested. You work for money or as you wish. You tell such stories at home: You were in enemy territory and engaged in subversive activities   ........     :)   :)   :)

Wesley says so, so I HAVE to be a Russian troll. How could I ever dare oppose His Grace?

I'll just need to obey and start learning the language and then find that illusive employer that will pay me good money for what I'm volunteering here at no charge. Imagine the troll powers I'll acquire with state support?

It's glorious how the kinds of people first to yell "Russian Troll" or "Chinese Spy" tend to be in that rare bracket of delightful monoglots who handly get themselves through a sentence in their native language.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 22, 2023, 12:36:44 PM
Wesley says so, so I HAVE to be a Russian troll. How could I ever dare oppose His Grace?

I'll just need to obey and start learning the language and then find that illusive employer that will pay me good money for what I'm volunteering here at no charge. Imagine the troll powers I'll acquire with state support?

It's glorious how the kinds of people first to yell "Russian Troll" or "Chinese Spy" tend to be in that rare bracket of delightful monoglots who handly get themselves through a sentence in their native language.

                 I try to be open-minded, but everything has a limit. Everyone has the right to political and cultural preferences, but presenting information that is accepted worldwide as lies and propaganda is a sign of bad parenting or subversion. The continuous flow of demagoguery throughout the forum does point to a covert form of subversion. "You can't just" talk nonsense on all topics on a technical forum without being a specialized specialist - you will be noticed and punished.

                 P.S     I don't know English well "but I'm good at distinguishing good from evil" - Ronald Reagan.

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 22, 2023, 01:16:17 PM
                 I try to be open-minded, but everything has a limit. Everyone has the right to political and cultural preferences, but presenting information that is accepted worldwide as lies and propaganda is a sign of bad parenting or subversion. The continuous flow of demagoguery throughout the forum does point to a covert form of subversion. "You can't just" talk nonsense on all topics on a technical forum without being a specialized specialist - you will be noticed and punished.

                 P.S     I don't know English well "but I'm good at distinguishing good from evil" - Ronald Reagan.

Are there any well established political "facts"?
The English language region is kind of tiny compared to Asia.
Most people alive today, live in countries who don't support the Western understanding of affairs which is ultra super specific who started what and when and who's the good guys.
When taking sides in politics, the chance of picking the right side may well be below 50%, as often times, both are wrong. Those who were wrong in big social or political conflicts, were so sure they were on the right side, they'd kick family members from their lives for it, send money and took to war to make it even more actionable.
I love being right as much as the next guys, but directly following doing my overdue due diligence, I've had to take a 180º on my original Western-influenced stance.

Did you know....

Over Unity exists

600 meters or approximately 2000 feet as a hydrogen balloon lift.

1 cubic meter of hydrogen can lift 1.2 kilograms at sea level.

82 grams per cubic meter of hydrogen

48 kilo watt hours to produce 1 kilogram of hydrogen

1 kilo watt hour = (is an expenditure of ) 3,600,000 joules

48 kilo watt hours = 172,800,000 joules

82 grams = 0.082 kilogram

48 kilo watt hours x 0.082 = 3.393 kilo watt hours to produce 82 grams of hydrogen by electrolysis.

3.393  kilo watt hours =  12,214,800 joules

9.8 joules to lift 1 kilogram 1 meter

9.8 x 1.2 Kg = 11.76 joules to lift 1.2 Kg 1 meter

11.6 joules x 600 meters = 6,960 joules

1.2 kilograms falling 600 meters = 6,960 joules

12,214,800  joules in (to produce 82 g of H) : 6,960 joules kinetic out = 1,755 to 1 ratio

1,755 x 600 = 1,053,000 meters of height to break even. ...654 miles

Water is 784 times more dense than air.

1,053,000 meters / 783 = 1,344 meters (4409 feet or  0.8351229 mile) of depth in water to break even, if electrolysis  of water can be done as efficiently at that depth and pressure, as it can be done at sea level.
                           
What is the volume of and buoyancy of what was 1 cu meter of hydrogen at sea level air pressure, once it is at a depth of 1,344 meters in water ?  ...... 13,141.22 kPa or 1905.97 psi

Given that the electrical energy input to do electrolysis is equal to the thermal energy produced in the electrolysis process plus the energy of combustion of the hydrogen ? (thermodynamic law) ...

Any energy acquired by rising of the hydrogen in atmosphere, due to gravity, is over unity.

Care to dispute this ?

Quote from: stivep on March 22, 2023, 07:03:24 AM

I want this place to be worth presenting to   physicists, mechanical engineers, without
me being ashamed  of doing so.

IMO, they already have thousands of sites of that nature..  The whole lure of this site is that it does not conform.    If I wanted boring conformity, I'd hang out on Electroboom's youtube channel..

..

Quote from: Willy on March 22, 2023, 05:12:51 PM
Did you know....

Over Unity exists

600 meters or approximately 2000 feet as a hydrogen balloon lift.

1 cubic meter of hydrogen can lift 1.2 kilograms at sea level.

82 grams per cubic meter of hydrogen

48 kilo watt hours to produce 1 kilogram of hydrogen

1 kilo watt hour = (is an expenditure of ) 3,600,000 joules

48 kilo watt hours = 172,800,000 joules

82 grams = 0.082 kilogram

48 kilo watt hours x 0.082 = 3.393 kilo watt hours to produce 82 grams of hydrogen by electrolysis.

3.393  kilo watt hours =  12,214,800 joules

9.8 joules to lift 1 kilogram 1 meter

9.8 x 1.2 Kg = 11.76 joules to lift 1.2 Kg 1 meter

11.6 joules x 600 meters = 6,960 joules

1.2 kilograms falling 600 meters = 6,960 joules

12,214,800  joules in (to produce 82 g of H) : 6,960 joules kinetic out = 1,755 to 1 ratio

1,755 x 600 = 1,053,000 meters of height to break even. ...654 miles

Water is 784 times more dense than air.

1,053,000 meters / 783 = 1,344 meters (4409 feet or  0.8351229 mile) of depth in water to break even, if electrolysis  of water can be done as efficiently at that depth and pressure, as it can be done at sea level.
                           
What is the volume of and buoyancy of what was 1 cu meter of hydrogen at sea level air pressure, once it is at a depth of 1,344 meters in water ?  ...... 13,141.22 kPa or 1905.97 psi

Given that the electrical energy input to do electrolysis is equal to the thermal energy produced in the electrolysis process plus the energy of combustion of the hydrogen ? (thermodynamic law) ...

Any energy acquired by rising of the hydrogen in atmosphere, due to gravity, is over unity.

Care to dispute this ?

You still need to bring the hydrogen up to 1 bar for sea level electrolysis.
I don't see how hydrolysis to 1 bar is giving enough lifting power to raise itself and then be burned, even at low losses.

If you find a way (I've recently heard some) to achieve cheap electrolysis at significant pressure, you may gain energy from the rise to the surface and then up a tall lift.

Don't tell the environmentalists though, because you'd just ending up heating the atmosphere more efficiently than a diesel truck :)

It is a simple answer. This forum is  under attack of few newbies  whose agenda is  unlikely theirs but their supervisors.
I should  have donate all of that money to this forum many years ago  and sign off.
Stefan would have some return from  his  voluntary activity  that is not easy to handle.
He is also paying for some Russian trolls to be able to  write here.

This forum   has a nice group of quite  talented thinkers.
Please understand  that Putin and his terrorists don't obey any language of peace and cooperation.
The only language they understand is  brutal force, restrictions, sanctions, closed doors and over 160 000 killed Russian troops  in Ukraine.
Today I'm likely the main target for them on this forum, - tomorrow  it will be  someone else.
Soviet Union - Russia was chapped  into pieces in 1990 and they  will   collapse again soon.
Unpleasant, smelly  collapsing economy  where  average income is ~$150 per month is the result of
Russian's: 
               "Let's see what they will do if we attack Ukraine."
and now it is:
                "Let's see what they will do if we attack this forum"

At best  for them will be : If I don't have anything on hand.
At worse : due to advanced technology Russia will collapse  faster ..
Dear Trolls  spray me with virus again, make me suffer.
Find  how much  of my story is a lie :) 
The decision is yours Stefan .
With all due respect

_{opinion expressed is my own.}
Wesley

@Wesley

I have been reading this forum for more than a decade now.

Don't let the trolls or any others discourage you, or take the enjoyment out of
what you do here.

No doubt, you are one the most knowledgeable, experienced and valuable
people on the forum.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 22, 2023, 06:08:44 PM
You still need to bring the hydrogen up to 1 bar for sea level electrolysis.
I don't see how hydrolysis to 1 bar is giving enough lifting power to raise itself and then be burned, even at low losses.

If you find a way (I've recently heard some) to achieve cheap electrolysis at significant pressure, you may gain energy from the rise to the surface and then up a tall lift.

Don't tell the environmentalists though, because you'd just ending up heating the atmosphere more efficiently than a diesel truck :)

"Given that the electrical energy input to do electrolysis is equal to the thermal energy produced in the electrolysis process plus the energy of combustion of the hydrogen ? (thermodynamic law) ...

Any energy acquired by rising of the hydrogen in atmosphere, due to gravity, is over unity."


I take it then, that you do not dispute that the process is over unity.

Quote from: stivep on March 22, 2023, 06:09:45 PM
It is a simple answer. This forum is  under attack of few newbies  whose agenda is  unlikely theirs but their supervisors.
I should  have donate all of that money to this forum many years ago  and sign off.
Stefan would have some return from  his  voluntary activity  that is not easy to handle.
He is also paying for some Russian trolls to be able to  write here.

This forum   has a nice group of quite  talented thinkers.
Please understand  that Putin and his terrorists don't obey any language of peace and cooperation.
The only language they understand is  brutal force, restrictions, sanctions, closed doors and over 160 000 killed Russian troops  in Ukraine.
Today I'm likely the main target for them on this forum, - tomorrow  it will be  someone else.
Soviet Union - Russia was chapped  into pieces in 1990 and they  will   collapse again soon.
Unpleasant, smelly  collapsing economy  where  average income is ~$150 per month is the result of
Russian's: 
               "Let's see what they will do if we attack Ukraine."
and now it is:
                "Let's see what they will do if we attack this forum"

At best  for them will be : If I don't have anything on hand.
At worse : due to advanced technology Russia will collapse  faster ..
Dear Trolls  spray me with virus again, make me suffer.
Find  how much  of my story is a lie :) 
The decision is yours Stefan .
With all due respect

_{opinion expressed is my own.}
Wesley

My superiors are getting impatient with my efforts to get you to see the errors of your way and behave like a man who still has all his marbles.
Before long, they'll be pushing me aside and make your phone ring.

Quote from: Willy on March 22, 2023, 06:29:37 PM
"Given that the electrical energy input to do electrolysis is equal to the thermal energy produced in the electrolysis process plus the energy of combustion of the hydrogen ? (thermodynamic law) ...

Any energy acquired by rising of the hydrogen in atmosphere, due to gravity, is over unity."


I take it then, that you do not dispute that the process is over unity.

English is not my native language, apologies for being less clear with my : NO.

NO I don't think it's overunity, as you need to generate and combust the hydrogen at the pressures valid in their respectively environment. You've added a layer of complexity to the classic buoyancy mind puzzles, but these added layers themselves don't introduce overunity. You're merely ignoring parts of their energy expense. In my very limited understanding of physics.

Hydrogen electrolysis to my knowledge doesn't give free buoyancy energy. You need to insert the energy for all that buoyancy first to local pressure.

Name your cheap electrolysis method at high pressure and prove it to exist. It would be cheaper than conventional, thus the green warriors will make you their king, just to get the stuff into a fuel cell or war head.

Any energy acquired by rising of the hydrogen in atmosphere, due to gravity, is over unity."

Your reply is "no", this is not so to your understanding.  Ok. 

If it is not so, then the electrical input in the process must not be equal to the output of the process. Physics laws say that they must be, exactly equal. This was a given in my statement.

This statement by me ...

"GIVEN that the electrical energy input to do electrolysis is equal to the thermal energy produced in the electrolysis process plus the energy of combustion of the hydrogen ? (thermodynamic law) ...

Are you saying that they are unequal.  I don't think you are. 

I am saying, that even in the circumstance, wherein the hydrogen rises only a few hundred feet
(330 feet or 100 meters) in atmosphere that energy is in excess of the balance of the equation. It is Over Unity.
in example ...  1.2 kilograms at 100 meters height worth of energy would need to be missing from the combustion of 1 cubic meter of hydrogen (generated at sea level) when it is burned at 100 meters above sea level.

                                  Do you think this is so ?

Those that know the truth and the lies propagated by academia
find it pointless to argue with the thermodynamically indoctrinated.


If you "don't believe in OU", go buy a tuning fork (the fancy ones that can hold a note and comes with a hammer), pick up an acoustic chamber tuned to your fork.


Measure the energy in and out.
And when you are finished, you have all the tool's necessary to apply your new knowledge to every area of physics.


That is overunity of the 1st kind: direct interaction and reaction


Magnetism and Gravity each fall into their own category, though they can be used in combination
Buoyancy is a manifestation of gravity, so a gravity/ buoyancy system is just using both sides of the 'field'


These (and electromagnetic devices) are overunity of the 2nd kind: having an intermediary or exchange mechanism.


As you ponder these conditions, consider why it is that we expend massive amounts of energy in our homes,
To LOWER the thermal energy state?


Energy is relative


The Earth saw no change in internal energy
You only moved some heat from inside your house to outside your house.
The change in energy came in the form of heat produced by the electronics that moved the heat
adding to the heat of the atmosphere.
And the heat released producing that electricity at the power plant.
So the earth only sees the fuel being converted to heat.


Excluding our electronics, Within the volume


quite frankly there are much better ways of doing that, even some that produce energy from the temperature differential.


But they will sell you on this 'carnot efficiency' b.s. so you keep buying A/C systems and paying your power bill (and subsequent taxes). [this is i believe the motivation behind thermodynamic thumpers pushing curriculum in the accredited college courses)


What a thermodynamicist is reluctant to explain to you is that the carnot cycle also works in reverse.
we can gain energy equivalent to (up to 50%) of the heat energy we are moving.


What they also don't tell you is that the entire theory of thermodynamics hinges on a choice in perspective.


What systems are you observing?
From which perspective?


Take the A/C:
We observe this device from the terms of energy input
and heat differential from the resultant process.


It "costs us" some quantity of energy to move heat from one side to the other.
We assume this system to begin at thermodynamic equilibrium,
Our energy spent is equal to the difference in initial and final temperature of a volume
of atmosphere surrounding our home, equivalent to the volume inside our house.
Plus the losses in our mechanical system.


Thats 150% of the energy required to move the heat.


Which, done by another process (and observational perspective) would provide 30% of that value as output energy, (relatively) costing us nothing to allow the heat to move itself.


[if you do not understand how such a thing is possible, please at your next convenience, take temperature measurements of the ambient, within and outside of a 'shadow' or at a depth slightly below ground]


———————————————


Thermodynamic inequalities:


Certain quotients are not compatible to thermodynamic analysis:


Such as gravity/buoyancy, and magnetism (atomic/molecular/"permanent")


We are accustomed to the mechanics of a Hot Air Baloon
In this system, the energy required to achieve a buoyant state using atmosphere as a medium
and Heat as the mechanism: is greater than the gravitational potential gained from the process.


Replace this process with a low energy exchange mechanism, and buoyant gravitational potential is free,
Or provided in conjunction with the devices output.
This is the basis of buoyancy-gravity devices, some consume more than the output
Some consume less, and only one is exactly at equilibrium with it's own buoyant exchange mechanism.
(under Earth conditions)


Why is there an lack of equivalent translation?
Take air for example: add heat to air it expands by a specific volume per unit heat
Other atoms or molecules perform differently. There is no standard.
Some are above or below the energy line from our perspective.
Meaning using heat to create buoyant states can be either over or under unity from our perspective observation. Helium and Hydrogen are two of the molecules that have a negative exchange mechanism.
"OU molecules" still have doubts? Go study the natural Hydrogen Cycle.


Magnetism is often viewed as a "conservative field".
This is only a matter of mathematical convenience.
We study symmetrical fields, in either locked or free motion.


Looking at symmetrical fields where both magnets are free to move,
Or cases where one magnet is free and the other is locked: conform (mostly) to thermodynamic representations of magnetism.


Observe an asymmetrical magnetic field or field interactions where the motion is constrained:
and we see a completely different picture than the one presented by thermodynamic theory.


————————————————————-


Magnetism is often equated to gravity:


These two forces are not equivalent.
They do not behave the same


And as such, energy differentials can be obtained between the two interacting forces.
These differentials are present both mathematically, and in real world experimentation.
quite in contrast to thermodynamic theory.


Thermodynamics is the only physical "law" which contradicts itself, cannot be empirically proven, yet is still considered a physical "law". Personally, i cannot agree with this assessment, experience has indicated the opposite.


———————————————————————


Entropy:


Ed Leedskalnin's Perpetual Motion Holder
where does entropy take place in a closed magnetic loop?


There is more, but let this little bit soak in.....

And Cloxxi
I would love to engage your superiors in sophisticated physics debates concerning this matter.
Please feel free to have them contact me.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 22, 2023, 07:21:01 PM
English is not my native language, apologies for being less clear with my : NO.

NO I don't think it's overunity, as you need to generate and combust the hydrogen at the pressures valid in their respectively environment. You've added a layer of complexity to the classic buoyancy mind puzzles, but these added layers themselves don't introduce overunity. You're merely ignoring parts of their energy expense. In my very limited understanding of physics.

Hydrogen electrolysis to my knowledge doesn't give free buoyancy energy. You need to insert the energy for all that buoyancy first to local pressure.

Name your cheap electrolysis method at high pressure and prove it to exist. It would be cheaper than conventional, thus the green warriors will make you their king, just to get the stuff into a fuel cell or war head.

Lets use 2 fuel cells, 1 in reverse performing electrolysis


A modern cell pair can generate hydrogen, then convert it back to electricity at 60% efficiency.
Meaning 40% of our energy was lost to the process.


now: at 1/2 cycle we have 2 gasses, O2 and H2 (in theoretically stoichiometric quantities)


The buoyancy of Hydrogen is far greater than necessary to lift its mass in oxygen to any desired height, with a negative energy factor : yes it costs us energy to hold the hydrogen to the ground.


Allow both gasses to rise to height (x).
Then direct them into the second fuel cell:


Now we have heavy mass H2O at height (x) times gravity
In excess to our 60% initial electrical energy.


News flash: height (x) is an indeterminate variable, we can choose this value to be anythinng we want, free of charge.




Insert the height at which energy in - energy out = 0.


Then fail to constrain the buoyant force for a single millimeter beyond that height


You are  past the point of Unity
What then do you call this energy state?

Why such complex and expensive checks for free energy.
everything is simple: we take a substance with a strongly oscillating core and touch a piezoelectric / ferroelectric. Further, the oscillation of the nucleus turns into electrical discharges. Since the rotation of the core cannot be stopped, you have in your hands a cell with electricity for 100 trillion years.      Under test....

            https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575424/#msg575424   picture here

      refer to                     Dr   John Hutchison    ,    Also     US20140252920A1

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 23, 2023, 12:21:54 AM

Lets use 2 fuel cells, 1 in reverse performing electrolysis


A modern cell pair can generate hydrogen, then convert it back to electricity at 60% efficiency.
Meaning 40% of our energy was lost to the process.


now: at 1/2 cycle we have 2 gasses, O2 and H2 (in theoretically stoichiometric quantities)


The buoyancy of Hydrogen is far greater than necessary to lift its mass in oxygen to any desired height, with a negative energy factor : yes it costs us energy to hold the hydrogen to the ground.


Allow both gasses to rise to height (x).
Then direct them into the second fuel cell:


Now we have heavy mass H2O at height (x) times gravity
In excess to our 60% initial electrical energy.


News flash: height (x) is an indeterminate variable, we can choose this value to be anythinng we want, free of charge.




Insert the height at which energy in - energy out = 0.


Then fail to constrain the buoyant force for a single millimeter beyond that height


You are  past the point of Unity
What then do you call this energy state?

I'm not qualified to do the calculations, but keep in mind that the atmosphere only provides 1 bar to work with.
As you build a higher lift, there are diminishing returns, every minute step of the way.
You play with immense energy but for the OU part you only address their relative mass for buoyancy.

Such a build, even by your calcs, would seek to squeeze out tiny bit of theoretical OU, from a structure that wouldn't be much easier to build than the next tallest building in the world. Using a deep decommissioned mine might be a way around it, but still brings in huge running costs. Playing with H and O underground in, imagine that...

Even IF you somehow find a process that's OU, you won't be able to sell energy at an attractive rate. All this time oldering some wind turbines and solar panels on Alibaba would have been the more profitable thing to do.

I like the creativity of combining chemistry and physics, though...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dNs_kNilSjk (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dNs_kNilSjk)
Perhaps there is a path towards some passive heat manipulation?
Results at 47 minute mark


I agree with presenter ( amazing) and we can make our own .( he teaches how step by step)


Managing the heat in our environment is truly a path we need to understand better,
Aerogels with phenomenal values etc etc !


Also for a better understanding..first few minutes shows the science

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5zW9_ztTiw8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5zW9_ztTiw8)

Respectfully
Chet

@ Cloxxki

Basically I agree.

In that, generating a cubic meter of hydrogen in order to reap a relativly small number of joules by raising 1.2 kilo grams to some number of meters height, in and of itself is probably not very economically viable. Gravity is not a very strong force.

Not the point of my statments, how ever.

No wonder I remembered the deportation of citizens of the USSR during the Second World War .
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/18/biden-administration-russia-deportations (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/18/biden-administration-russia-deportations)
There is nothing new under the sun.

Quote from: Willy on March 23, 2023, 10:08:27 AM
@ Cloxxki

Basically I agree.

In that, generating a cubic meter of hydrogen in order to reap a relativly small number of joules by raising 1.2 kilo grams to some number of meters height, in and of itself is probably not very economically viable. Gravity is not a very strong force.

Not the point of my statments, how ever.

The main thing in this process is not the rise of hydrogen, but the lowering of water formed during combustion from a height.

I agree with Stivep and found there is no such thing as OU and in fact it's not needed.

OU is just a generic term used by people who don't understand energy or where the extra energy in FE devices could come from. In fact all the greatest free energy inventors like Tesla, Moray, Hendershot, Hubbard never claimed OU they claimed the energy was atmospheric or cosmic in it's nature. When the real experts with working technology say it's not OU we should believe them.

Here's a clue, Richard Feynman and Wheeler calculated there is enough energy in a volume of space as big as your fist to boil all the worlds oceans. If this is true nobody needs OU or something from nothing because all space is already a vast sea of energy.

I also think Stivep makes a really good point that many may be pushing OU to distract from the real facts. What better way to distract and misdirect than claim the extra energy appears out of nowhere?. Obviously the energy doesn't just come from nowhere and all the real FE inventors claimed the process was easy to understand. I just find it a little strange that so few are talking about where the extra energy could come from or the reasons why.

AC

Quote from: onepower on March 23, 2023, 12:41:27 PM
I agree with Stivep and found there is no such thing as OU and in fact it's not needed.

OU is just a generic term used by people who don't understand energy or where the extra energy in FE devices could come from. In fact all the greatest free energy inventors like Tesla, Moray, Hendershot, Hubbard never claimed OU they claimed the energy was atmospheric or cosmic in it's nature. When the real experts with working technology say it's not OU we should believe them.

Here's a clue, Richard Feynman and Wheeler calculated there is enough energy in a volume of space as big as your fist to boil all the worlds oceans. If this is true nobody needs OU or something from nothing because all space is already a vast sea of energy.

I also think Stivep makes a really good point that many may be pushing OU to distract from the real facts. What better way to distract and misdirect than claim the extra energy appears out of nowhere?. Obviously the energy doesn't just come from nowhere and all the real FE inventors claimed the process was easy to understand. I just find it a little strange that so few are talking about where the extra energy could come from or the reasons why.

AC

@AC

Do you really think that the phrase "Over unity" means something from nothing?
If so, then....

Show me a single quote on this entire forum where in it is stated that energy comes from nothing.
Show me a single quote on this entire forum where in it is stated that energy comes from nowhere.

Exception ...
People like unto your self, who do not understand very much and therefore insist that OU must then mean something from nothing.

You    found    there is no such thing as Over Unity?  Wow, just wow.

Richard Feynman and Wheeler gave us the clue (and not you) when they "calculated there is enough energy in a volume of space as big as your fist to boil all the worlds oceans. If this is true nobody needs something from nothing because all space is already a vast sea of energy."

Not only that but also, every real world thing of which you are aware of, is composed entirely of energy.

My question is:

If space is already a vast sea of energy, what are these interesting
devices doing to keep the energy they extract, from reverting right
back to where it came from?  That's not natural or normal, so I in
a world of Natural Law, those devices must be breaking something.
Maybe that's why Wesley is so concerned.  Possibly he had a vision
of what could happen.

The energy cannot but return.
Everything we use will end up as dissipated heat.
So you don't have to worry about that.

Quote from: Dog-One on March 23, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
My question is:

If space is already a vast sea of energy, what are these interesting
devices doing to keep the energy they extract, from reverting right
back to where it came from?  That's not natural or normal, so I in
a world of Natural Law, those devices must be breaking something.
Maybe that's why Wesley is so concerned.  Possibly he had a vision
of what could happen.

It could be that the unlimited source we're trying to tap into, is like a water vessel placed above ours, and it can poor in energy as we desire. Yes, we could in theory burn outselves up, but we might also covert energy into mass. Like reverse cold fusion. turn some copper into nickle and actually chill.

Quote from: Willy on March 23, 2023, 12:59:50 PM
@AC

Do you really think that the phrase "Over unity" means something from nothing?
If so, then....

Show me a single quote on this entire forum where in it is stated that energy comes from nothing.
Show me a single quote on this entire forum where in it is stated that energy comes from nowhere.

Exception ...
People like unto your self, who do not understand very much and therefore insist that OU must then mean something from nothing.

You    found    there is no such thing as Over Unity?  Wow, just wow.

Richard Feynman and Wheeler gave us the clue (and not you) when they "calculated there is enough energy in a volume of space as big as your fist to boil all the worlds oceans. If this is true nobody needs something from nothing because all space is already a vast sea of energy."

Not only that but also, every real world thing of which you are aware of, is composed entirely of energy.

Fantastic response and reason of why certain people should not be allowed on OU sights like this along with Stivep whom is a Moderator, now that's disturbing to say the least. I have copied his response to me on another thread so he can not deny it stating that OU does not exist. Giving people like this free reign on this site spells for disaster thus ruining every thread possible chances of success. If I wanted total crap I would go to the dump and hang out there but the smell is hard to overcome.

Our world is seething with energy with Tesla stating matter has no energy it's self yet draws it from the surrounding space. Eric Dollard has also stated this as Counter Space. I have also read and studied that energy is a thousand times smaller then the smallest atom which permeates all matter flowing between atoms unabated. Our own bodies do not create the energy we need to live, it is pulled in from an outside source as is all living things. Our hearts upper and lower chamber muscles twist when it pumps which creates polarization thus pulling in energy from an outside source. This is the reason why all living things have an Aura which is basically an electric field or there of.

Honestly I do agree with an article I read quite a long tome ago that there is no such thing as gravity as people understand it, as it is a push not a pull. Nearing a large body the radiation slows down the push from the other side so in essence you are being pushed into the large body from the unobstructed side. Floating in space unobstructed from all sides until you come to a large body or mass able to slow the push down from one side thus pushed into the planet or mass.

Some of you may disagree with what I or many others say but that doesn't give you the right to bombard the thread with useless BS to satisfy your warped sense of reality or understanding of our universe. NO one has all the answers even top scientist and physicist as we are a young race striving for answers.

Quote; "The energy cannot but return. Everything we use will end up as dissipated heat. So you don't have to worry about that."

I completely disagree, all energy returns to the source irregardless. The dissipated heat is losses from our inferior designs but did we actually destroy it.... I very much doubt that with limed understanding of energy as we know it.

I personally believe there is more than meets the eye then having to blow crap up to make energy when is surrounds us all.

Much respect.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 23, 2023, 05:18:09 PM
Fantastic response and reason of why certain people should not be allowed on OU sights like this along with Stivep whom is a Moderator, now that's disturbing to say the least. I have copied his response to me on another thread so he can not deny it stating that OU does not exist. Giving people like this free rain on this site spells for disaster thus ruining every thread possible chances of success. If I wanted total crap I would go to the dump and hang out there but the smell is hard to overcome.

Our world is seething with energy .....


I personally believe there is more than meets the eye then having to blow crap up to make energy when is surrounds us all.

Much respect.

I agree with your agreements

I also really dont understand some like stivep wasting reams of pages arguing that OUdoes not exist  or whats OU definition is.

What are these people doing here then?  I repeat my earlier comments....nobody is claiming something from nothing or melting one elephant to make two.  But theres so much energy surrounding us we just need to look at the methods of conversion better

Do the naysayers not understand the Earths water cycle?  Do they not see the way our Sun actually recycles much of its energy??

So many energy particles in the free air around us.....all you have to do is EFFICIENTLY rectify it. 

But this silly world drills holes miles deep pumps oil from the bowels of the earth to burn and explosively/wastefully spin turbines.

Its so sad its hilarious

Clarity
There is one "1" global moderator at this forum ,
Administrator and owner Stefan .forum handle
Hartiberlin.




There are many subsections or builders topics ...individual "boards" ( hopefully that will grow )
Moderated by persons who experiment and share their work ,
( major prerequisite obviously open source)


So ... no subsection moderator can moderate any other part of forum except their own board.
Also there are a few areas of forum with general moderator (1 example:HHO section Grumage?)


Stefan is trying to get this more organized, and better understood by membership here !


One thing is certain...we need our energies focused on open source FE solutions !
Flamewars between members....not so much !
Respectfully
Chet K

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 23, 2023, 06:56:20 AM
I'm not qualified to do the calculations, but keep in mind that the atmosphere only provides 1 bar to work with.
As you build a higher lift, there are diminishing returns, every minute step of the way.
You play with immense energy but for the OU part you only address their relative mass for buoyancy.

Such a build, even by your calcs, would seek to squeeze out tiny bit of theoretical OU, from a structure that wouldn't be much easier to build than the next tallest building in the world. Using a deep decommissioned mine might be a way around it, but still brings in huge running costs. Playing with H and O underground in, imagine that...

Even IF you somehow find a process that's OU, you won't be able to sell energy at an attractive rate. All this time oldering some wind turbines and solar panels on Alibaba would have been the more profitable thing to do.

I like the creativity of combining chemistry and physics, though...

I see that you were deprived of helium baloons as a child


The higher we go, the less pressure: the point at which hydrogen (and its' mass in oxygen cargo) balances out with the atmosphere (at electrolysis pressures) is higher than the terminal velocity altitude of water.
(above the clouds)


This is thousands of times greater potential energy at this height than anything we would have used in electricity to separate the gasses.


What happens when we electrolyze water in an open vessel?
The hydrogen travels all the way into outer space.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 23, 2023, 05:18:09 PM
Honestly I do agree with an article I read quite a long tome ago that there is no such thing as gravity as people understand it, as it is a push not a pull. Nearing a large body the radiation slows down the push from the other side so in essence you are being pushed into the large body from the unobstructed side. Floating in space unobstructed from all sides until you come to a large body or mass able to slow the push down from one side thus pushed into the planet or mass.

I don't think gravity is actually a primordial force.  It's more likely an
artifact of forces that are primordial.  Mr. Tesla spoke of it.  There is a
force that perpetuates a free flow (of something, maybe energy ?)
within the universe and where there is an obstacle (large mass), this
force builds due to the resistance of the obstruction.  Think of it as
the universe being pressurized.  Or as some scientists speculate,
mass is a condensate of energy and where there is mass, the energy
naturally flows toward it to fill the void of energy created by the
mass.  When near the surface of the mass where there is the maximum
degree of condensation happening, a tiny force develops that we
label as gravity.

I've read some stuff explaining how the planets in our solar system
appear to gaining mass and the calculations seem to indicate not all
that gain can be accounted for by celestial body impacts.  So the
planets are literally growing--converting energy mostly from our
sun into mass.  That's pretty cool when you think about it.  The formula
E = MC² operating in reverse of how we normally think about it.
Imagine how much energy it would take to grow a planet enough to
be noticeable.  That's a lot of Joules.

Downward gravitational acceleration is simply the inverse of the buoyant vertical acceleration.
Both are the same force, with opposite magnitudes.
Displacement


Archimedes describes this using fluids and solids but the same applies also to gasses.
Displacement calculations describe gravity more accurately than any commonly accepted gravitational theory. Which is why when we need accurate gravity data, we still use Archimedes' mathematics. (when less precision is required Newton does the job fine)


We can also perfectly describe interactions between galaxies using this math.
Not just in one direction (gravitational attraction) but in both, to include galaxies that are moving further apart.


As for "what the force is" , it doesnt seem likely that we will ever truly know.
It is imperceptible to most of our senses, much like magnetism.
What we do know is it is governed not by the mass of the object, but that masses density.


the Poisson equation would includes a partial assessment, but fundamentally all of our theories break at large scales. This is why we invent fudge factor concepts like "dark matter" and "dark energy". These represent the magnitude of error in our gravity theories.


Rather than correcting our theories, it is easier for conceited professors to imagine an unknown, undetectable quantity that 'must be' throwing off their equations.
Perhaps.....  but it equally likely that the problems lie in the theories themselves.


Even general relativity breaks, giving rise to the need for special relativity, which also breaks,


Expansion is a complete farce'


Originally conceived to explain why we are curiously moving away from a majority of the closest galaxies to us (and the first ones we were able to observe)
But the premise indicates we cannot ever test or prove these theories.
And also expansion cannot be observed. Not in galaxies, not in entire regions of the universe.


Not because we haven't looked, and not because it isn't there (it isn't, but that's irrelevant)
But because of what it is described as.
In short it says that the distance between any two points is expanding.
The meter (being a measurement of a distance between two points) would therefore be expanding at the same rate.
As would the Joule and the Newton.
We could never possibly observe expansion because our tools for observation themselves would also be expanding: my conclusion: expansion theories are irrelevant to our observations of galaxies, it cannot even be defined as a cause of anything we can observe.


Since the proposal of expansion theories, we have discovered countless more galaxies and observe them moving in all conceivable relative directions. Thus our original observations that led to expansion theories were incomplete to begin with.
It is also important to note that if the Joule is expanding, entropy is broken.


The true age of our universe is now under question as we are now able to observe galaxies beyond the distance we defined as "the beginning of time".
Thus, Big Bang theory is (at very least) inaccurate, at worst: never was real to begin with.

@theDogOne:


Part of this problem comes from the way we classify that data.
'impact' can mean physical: those meteorites that actually hit the ground:
                           Atmospheric: 'shooting stars': those meteorites that burn up in the atmosphere.
But should ALSO include the ice, the dust, and unobserved tiny pebbles, the gasses that accumulate towards a planetary body, etc, etc.
This is a highly controversial subject, because when fully calculated explains rising sea levels
and counteracts trillions of $$$ in climate change research and political agendas.

Yes I love it, and yes I do think it is all about Sound, resonance, Vibrations and pressure gradients. Our universe produces billions of amps and volts creating galaxies, stars and planets and apparently it did not get the memo from ney-sayers that it can't be done lol! :o

"counteracts trillions of $$$ in climate change research and political agendas."

Amazingly every so called green deal they present when boil down or unwrapped to the basics are nothing but a big fat money grab and control.
Yes Tesla was shut down because he was a direct threat to there establishment control in place just as Royal Raymond Rife and Hoxsey clinics  but that's getting off the subject at hand lol!

There is not one doubt in my mind that they started their control in around 1880 to 1890 then ushered in the clown in the purple suit. ;D The rest is spending billions to stop the spread of the truth .

What blows my mind is the fact that I read that magnetism might not exist. Specifically the south field is a voidance charging into counterspace and as such the reason for the attraction to a north field. The north is basically the discharge and the fact that they both spin in the same direction looking from above. I have also found that the south field is detectable slightly farther then that of the north field which makes me scratch my head

Quote from: rakarskiy on March 17, 2023, 03:29:31 PM
You are probably Russian (who is called "Vanka, who does not remember kinship").

I am not Russian, I am Romanian...

And yes, we are fighting with these scumbag globalists for 30 years, far longer than patriot republicans. Patriot republicans started to fight them around 2016, when Trump was in campaign,
but we in Romania, we fight them since 1990. Sure they never called themselves globalists or Neoliberals, but they were, and are still, The Right Wing.  And that in Romanian terms, meaning "austerity obsessed scumbags that portray themselves as representatives of the West".

I'm just hoping Russia cuts thru Ukraine not because I'd having something against your country. I just want mine freed of these scumbags. The octopus has gotten itself everything it wanted,
and in 2019, it finally infiltrated and terminated from the inside the Social-Democratic Party aka the Left, which in Romanian terms means "normal people, bringers of better salaries, pensions, economic growth, austerity stoppers". The #new version of it is nothing but a bunch of globalist asskissers who, like The Right Wing, are ashamed of being Romanians, that we didn't adopt the vaxx passport...

Ukrainians are as brainwashed as we were in the 1990s when we were loving the West - though we were hating the neoliberal Right Wing. We would fought Russia if it were to invade us up to 1997.

You know what will happen if Ukraine wins ? Let's say Russia withdraws and Ukraine wins.

Europe comes in. Ukrainian nationalism extinguished over the night. You will no longer be allowed to be proud of being Ukrainian. All gone in the globalist way of being. What, you think your country is special, to be the only one where nationalism is promoted ? That will be done when Ukraine is no longer needed against Russia.

This is what awaits the proud Azov fighters returning home with injuries and limbs missing. An ungrateful European Ukraine. Left without every resource it has, maybe even without coal power

stations (EU will say that well, Russia bombed them but these are not green anyway), maybe even without cows or everything globalists do not want us to eat. And their Ukrainian kids are gonna be

told in schools that they can be either boys or girls, as they please. Imagine the bitter taste to no longer recognize the country you fought and were injured for...

Those who go to war knowing all of this are bound to go to hell.

Only those who are blessed about not being aware of the globalist agenda can finish the war, dead or alive, with a clean conscience.

P.S. What's with the Jahbulon drawing ?

...

Quote from: Dog-One on March 23, 2023, 06:13:24 PM
I don't think gravity is actually a primordial force.  It's more likely an
artifact of forces that are primordial.  Mr. Tesla spoke of it.  There is a
force that perpetuates a free flow (of something, maybe energy ?)
within the universe and where there is an obstacle (large mass), this
force builds due to the resistance of the obstruction.  Think of it as
the universe being pressurized.  Or as some scientists speculate,
mass is a condensate of energy and where there is mass, the energy
naturally flows toward it to fill the void of energy created by the
mass.  When near the surface of the mass where there is the maximum
degree of condensation happening, a tiny force develops that we
label as gravity.

I've read some stuff explaining how the planets in our solar system
appear to gaining mass and the calculations seem to indicate not all
that gain can be accounted for by celestial body impacts.  So the
planets are literally growing--converting energy mostly from our
sun into mass.  That's pretty cool when you think about it.  The formula
E = MC² operating in reverse of how we normally think about it.
Imagine how much energy it would take to grow a planet enough to
be noticeable.  That's a lot of Joules.

I've also heard the theory that mass is the absense of vacuum, causing a kind of 3-dimensional water slide for other mass.
I'm not sure it behaves quite proportional across scales though, else we'd see lots of space rocks clogging together rather than breaking up.
There are (ancient) theories that attribute various levels of consiousness to the elements, and celestial objects.
A magnetic object near a magnets will function as a magnet itself, right? Similarly, a planet may derive gravity from its nearby star. We don't really orbit the SUN, we dangle behind it. Oddly, the Earth is trapped in a faux-orbit behind the Sun, but a balanced pencil doesn't fall over when the sun sets. Something all but negates the immense pull the Sun has on Earth, here on the surface. Oceans and seas breathe as the moon spins around the Earth. Water in a dinner plate will just sit there. Scale does something strange to gravity, or its assigned to objects rather than particles.

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 24, 2023, 05:02:04 AM
I am not Russian, I am Romanian...

And yes, we are fighting with these scumbag globalists for 30 years, far longer than patriot republicans. Patriot republicans started to fight them around 2016, when Trump was in campaign,
but we in Romania, we fight them since 1990. Sure they never called themselves globalists or Neoliberals, but they were, and are still, The Right Wing.  And that in Romanian terms, meaning "austerity obsessed scumbags that portray themselves as representatives of the West".

I'm just hoping Russia cuts thru Ukraine not because I'd having something against your country. I just want mine freed of these scumbags. The octopus has gotten itself everything it wanted,
and in 2019, it finally infiltrated and terminated from the inside the Social-Democratic Party aka the Left, which in Romanian terms means "normal people, bringers of better salaries, pensions, economic growth, austerity stoppers". The #new version of it is nothing but a bunch of globalist asskissers who, like The Right Wing, are ashamed of being Romanians, that we didn't adopt the vaxx passport...

Ukrainians are as brainwashed as we were in the 1990s when we were loving the West - though we were hating the neoliberal Right Wing. We would fought Russia if it were to invade us up to 1997.

You know what will happen if Ukraine wins ? Let's say Russia withdraws and Ukraine wins.

Europe comes in. Ukrainian nationalism extinguished over the night. You will no longer be allowed to be proud of being Ukrainian. All gone in the globalist way of being. What, you think your country is special, to be the only one where nationalism is promoted ? That will be done when Ukraine is no longer needed against Russia.

This is what awaits the proud Azov fighters returning home with injuries and limbs missing. An ungrateful European Ukraine. Left without every resource it has, maybe even without coal power

stations (EU will say that well, Russia bombed them but these are not green anyway), maybe even without cows or everything globalists do not want us to eat. And their Ukrainian kids are gonna be

told in schools that they can be either boys or girls, as they please. Imagine the bitter taste to no longer recognize the country you fought and were injured for...

Those who go to war knowing all of this are bound to go to hell.

Only those who are blessed about not being aware of the globalist agenda can finish the war, dead or alive, with a clean conscience.

P.S. What's with the Jahbulon drawing ?

I stood on Maidan Square Kiev, around 2012 for their Independence Day celebrations. My one grnadfather was thrown into a nazi work camp, the other volunteered to join the Brits in fighting them.
It was very uneasy to hear the people on stage speak their ethnic minority language, and mention their language/country/ethicity in what seemed absolutely every sentence. The crowd around me wasn't cheering, they were eerily silent while on stage there was a huge nationalist celebrantion going on.
10 years on, even the citizens of near 100% Russian ethnicity right on the border, were ready to declare absolute hate for anything Russian. The propaganda has been masterful. The massacres that to outsiders were super transparent and an insult to our intelligence, seem to have sealed the deal, even Ukrainian who were raised speakin Russian, going to Orthodox Church, for many generations, gave up on love and joined team hate. Happy to look away from Azov committing genocide on their ethnic brothers and sisters in Donbass, pretending it was Russia that did all the killing there, reducing the supposed motives to "they suck, they are evil, Putin wants to colonize the world". 2014 was an invastion, then 8 years of war, and THEN supposedly Russia invaded. Wait, weren't they killing your countrymen for 8 years, both the one in Donbass and the UKR military bombing the shit out of it? Ukraine wants to have it both ways. More ways. Free dollars to rain on the corrupt leaders, happily to be full on nazis, with the swastika flags open in the streets, no face masks even. Dollars are the nectar that make them feel like gods.
In my country, there are more homeless people eating from trashcans than ever in my life. None of them are Ukrainians, they come here and get nice appartments and ample income, they are treated like gods. While the ideologicals (proverbial) songs they sing perfectly rhymes with the nazi tunes from the 30s and 40s. My grandparents were there in WW2, I think I know enough to recognize toxic nationalism that has started to condone genocide. I felt it, the first time in my live, on Maidan Square. I feel it, when I speak to Ukrainian immigrants.
Some actually agree with me and state that this is why they left, never to return. Overall, the propaganda has been amazing. So many believe it, love it, thrive on it. Love can be hard to find if you're not taught how to, but when you're fueled by hate, you can get it anywhere, anytime. With some propaganda as well explained during the WW2 trials, it gets really easy.

Globalists are a factor, but they can't be more of a problem than we mentally grant them power. Hate is their most used and most effective tool. It works for them, thus can't be used against them. What we can use is positive thoughts, higher vibrations.
See how quickly Germany was able to rebound. Humanity IS capable at forgiveness. Any delay is at our own detriment.
Doesn't mean I'll be very patient with those who choose hate though.
Wesley with his blind hatred and fear for Russia, it's just sad. It's so powerful in the likes of him, that we only need to attribute something to a Russian and he'll hate it just for that reason. What a mighty weapon to wield, hatred for anything Russian, so you only need to put all your crimes in contract to something you loosely associate with Russia and all critical thought will be foregone. Steal your wife, say she's needed to kill the Russians. Steal your kid, say it's needed to feed the dogs you're sending after Russia. A hate sect has been created, but it's larger than most organized religions.
Even the Russian language and church being banned, doesn't ring a bell, no links to WW2 are allowed. Especially since Russians where the heroes there, all but defeaiting the nazis before the western nations stopped twiddling their thumbs and came to Normady to plant some flags. They had to race to Berlin to still get half of that. USA throwing nukes and worse on the softest targets far from home and taking their sweet time to help out Europe showed that the nazis were not the only evil in WW2. Those who plant the flags write the history though. Those who hold the media now control the thoughts of those who are exposed to said media.

It takes a hero to publicly oppose local media or national politicies and ideologies.

Well
Here IMO all who help carry water for open source FE community
Are an asset towards the goal !
"This thing we do" the hunt for all higher flavors of unity ...( AKA Free Energy)
Takes many hands and eyes ,


One thing is certain, it is a very volatile research area ...( censor target ??)
And we don't need other topics carrying us towards more unnecessary attention
than we already have ( or giving reasons for suppressing our site
Which we have unfortunately seen happen during these crazy times !


So please!!
Help carry water for the open source  FE research community .
One battle is enuff here !


This research binds us ( humanity) together with a common goal!
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
There are much better global venues for "other" volatile topics !

QuoteGlobalists are a factor, but they can't be more of a problem than we mentally grant them power. Hate is their most used and most effective tool. It works for them, thus can't be used against them. What we can use is positive thoughts, higher vibrations.

The Russian propaganda is getting pretty thick in here...

In fact, globalism is based on the belief that people, goods and information should to be able to cross national borders unfettered. It's about freedom...

However this is a problem for most communists countries like Russia and China which treat there people like fenced in cattle. In Russia simply protesting gets you 15 years in prison and in China life in prison or execution. Here in Canada and the U.S. people can peacefully protest for weeks and nothing happens. Obviously places like Russia and China could never allow globalism and let there people see how much better the rest of the world lives in freedom.

Of course Russia and China are scared to death of globalism because it would mean there people would have complete freedom to information like everyone else. Let's be honest your leaders are cowards and there afraid to let people educate themselves and be informed. While here in Canada they want us all to have high speed internet so we can read any information we choose even faster, lol. They encourage access to information and consider it a human right.

QuoteDoesn't mean I'll be very patient with those who choose hate though. Wesley with his blind hatred and fear for Russia, it's just sad.

This is another lie often spread by communist propaganda.
We in the west don't really hate anyone to any degree, we were taught never to hate. However what we really dislike is other brain washed people trying to drag us into there own authoritarian/communist flavor of hell. I think it's really bizarre that you have become so brain washed you think any criticism is hate. I mean, people are critical of me and my beliefs all the time and I laugh about it. Bring it on, I don't care, lol.

Here's a dirty little secret, I love my life here in Western Canada and tend to wake up most mornings with a silly grin on my face, seriously. I'm out in the country on a farm with nothing but space and freedom to do whatever I want. I go to work in an easy job Engineering making good money with some well educated, very capable and honest people. There is abundance and I can buy whatever I need and like jet boating, fishing, fabricating/inventing and gardening. It seems like life here with family and friends is just too good to be true most days and I'm grateful. 

I'm sorry you live in a communist shit hole where everything is probably very difficult. However it's on you to demand your freedom and a better life. We kicked the dictators out of the west a long time ago and now we all have it pretty good. It's on you and others to man up and demand change for the better. There is no free lunch and we need to fight for our freedom and protect it.

AC

Quote "Here in Canada and the U.S. people can peacefully protest for weeks and nothing happens"

    Unless your a Canadian Trucker who just wants to make your own personal decisions!  then
it's Jail and Bank Account Siezed, etc...

- You don't really believe what you just wrote - I hope..

Quote from: onepower on March 24, 2023, 03:04:21 PM

In fact, globalism is based on the belief that people, goods and information should to be able to cross national borders unfettered. It's about freedom...
[...]
We kicked the dictators out of the west a long time ago and now we all have it pretty good. It's on you and others to man up and demand change for the better.

Globalism is the polar opposite to freedom. Its democratic mask has come off and we see it in all its glorified ugliness.

The West is right now a dictatorship. And I've seen it with the plandemic. There could have been millions over millions of Europeans on the streets, Globalists would have just said:

"Well you are all a bunch of uninformed, anti-science maggots and you'll accept the vaxx passport". Italy and New York made it mandatory for work. Greece introduced light fines. Austria introduced heavy fines and was even planning jail, almost going Antichrist 2nd phase before his time.

This opposition demonstrated the absolute disregard for freedoms and for democracy, democracy as in "demos kratos", power of the people.

You often hear "The rise of populism", "The dangers of populism", and so on. If you check the definition given by google, it says that populism is "a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups."

So basically the definition of populism is practically "a return to the true democracy". Cause the fake democracy out there is just the perenity of the feudal globalist group, those who, even hated by people, manage to steal elections and remain on top. Wonder how long will that Rutte bastard resist...

And it's not even the end. It's decaying in a very accelerated rhythm. It will end in a digital technocracy, where we live our lives dictated by the carbon score algorithm! If... we don't get to OU and get the hell out... or otherwise burn in hell along the globalists, the Progressives who love them and the fearful who will accept the Mark...

Yes, perhaps people are not allowed to protest in Russia. Or China. China is the special case - closed society from outside, but a mini internal globalism inside, like a globalist planet far away... No wonder that Klaus Schwab and Justin Trudeau love so much that system, which is our future...

But what are people accomplishing in the West ? Nothing, they participate in protests, get themselves injured or even arrested, and don't manage to stop the agenda.
Why do you think that for decades they are playing the idea of non-violent protests ? To stop the idea of a revolution. How would have been if the protesters at Tuilleries would have had placards
and would have politely asked Louis the XVIth to come out ? He would said "Je m'en fous do vous tous!", and then they would have left home. This is why protests don't work today, and will never work because violence is the province of Intelligence, it exists only when the powers that be need it, not when the people attempt to use it...

What did Macron do to the pensions law ? Of course he approved it. The steamroller continues to go, despite the efforts of the people beneath. Cause that is the message of these FEUDAL OVERLORDS which are the globalists : "F Y ALL!"

Seen large protests in 2010 Romania. 20000 tried to stop the 25% cut to salaries in the public sector. But the parliamentary majority of the ruthless Lib-Dems managed to stay. It all ended with a dance and boarded up the busses, and were obliged to accept it. I would have told the 6 Jan protesters "Don't do it, I know it won't work"... When I've seen Trump depending on Pence, I knew it was done...

As for the election night in the US, it was a copy-paste of Romanian elections of 2009. I knew Trump was done that night. There was a chance. Two weeks to act. Initiate secession and break up the United States. But he was no man of state. Just a better president, but didn't have the balls to do this. Northern Irelend segregated from the rest of Ireland for a religious bullshit, and true reasons of the red states to segregate from the satanic ruling of the Left could not have been brought to fruition.

I don't even care what happens next. I just need OU to get out as long as it's still possible.

Solarlab

QuoteQuote "Here in Canada and the U.S. people can peacefully protest for weeks and nothing happens"
Unless your a Canadian Trucker who just wants to make your own personal decisions! then
it's Jail and Bank Account Siezed, etc...
You don't really believe what you just wrote - I hope..

Key word, "peacefully protest"...
Obstructing all traffic in violation of traffic laws, blowing air horns 24/7 in violation of local bylaws, defecating on the lawns of and harassing people at all hours does not qualify as peaceful.

However as you already know the truckers could have protested for any number of days and nothing legal could be done about the protest had they followed the laws. Is that so hard to understand?, don't be stupid, don't break the law and use a little common sense.

On the covid vaccinations, I was also required to get vaccinated as a job requirement and had no issues with it. I didn't volunteer for it and waited until it was mandated but then did what was required like a professional because I am one. My job often entails many things I may not like but it's part of the job and were expected to act like adults.

As well, as an adult I could have refused the vaccination and quit to find other more suitable employment. Nobody was forced to get vaccinated which is illegal and everyone had a choice between vaccination or employment. The problems came about when some believed they were above the law and everyone else should just give in to whatever fake news they read that day.

Obviously you know all this which begs the question why you made such a ridiculous post?...

AC

Frame it any way you want to justify your blind beliefs - but it IS what it IS...

It's now just documented History!

We are in a continuous changing environment, in which Constitution and law do not matter anymore, because of the "force majeure" supposedly dictates the abolishing of such rules.

And it doesn't really matter. Perhaps I am ridiculous. Get a few more boosters. Maybe the Marburg vaccine. You can as many as you want. As many as your body can handle.
I don't give a damn.

For me, this was the most important event : it meant that the time from the Book of Revelation has come. Never before in history the powers that be - especially in so-called democratic countries -
had the audacity to implement coercion measures to get the people put something in their bodies, or else!

When rights - to travel, to board a plane, to work - are linked to something you have to take on your body, that's 80% of the Mark of the Beast! Yes, it's not a wallet yet, but you still have to take something on your body to be allowed some rights, rights which were previously granted.

I don't care. I will not play my soul on this roulette. I will go out as soon as I get an OU generator. I just hope it will be possible, soon enough. Soon enough before I lose all my money due to a bank crash or a CBDC thing, or a 1947 style Stabilization. But hehe, you think communists are in Russia. Communism is not a country, is an ideology. And it moved to the West.

Good I'm still in UK and not in Canada or even worse, Australia or NZ, other countries ruled by globalist maniacs! Have enough with those at home in Romania...

fxeconomist

QuoteGlobalism is the polar opposite to freedom. Its democratic mask has come off and we see it in all its glorified ugliness.

No globalism is based on the belief that people, goods and information should to be able to cross national borders unrestricted. Globalism is just a larger version of what already happens inside most free countries. In Canada were free to move about and trade goods/services and information with few if any restrictions. We can also visit other countries any time we choose for as long as we want because we are free.

The opposite of globalism is obviously fascism and communism which restricts all these freedoms of movement, trade and information. Which obviously explains why fascism and communism are opposed to globalism and global freedom.

It's actually kind of comical because if global movement was unrestricted all the intelligent people would be leaving every fascist/communist shit hole as fast as there legs could carry them. Where would they go, maybe the happiest countries or those with the best quality of life or freedoms and opportunities.

Here's a clue, almost every fascist/communist country does not allow most people to move or leave as they choose. This is because if most people could leave they probably would. Hence all the big barb wire fences, walls and border crossings to keep everyone in. There basically slaves or prisoners within there own country which is mind boggling. These communist countries are just very large prisons...

AC

fxeconomist

QuoteWe are in a continuous changing environment, in which Constitution and law do not matter anymore, because of the "force majeure" supposedly dictates the abolishing of such rules.

And it doesn't really matter. Perhaps I am ridiculous. Get a few more boosters. Maybe the Marburg vaccine. You can as many as you want. As many as your body can handle.
I don't give a damn.

Here's a clue.... the pandemic is over.

Oh, many got triggered and it was the end of the world, the end of democracy, the start of martial law and bla bla bla. However here we are and the pandemic is over.

QuoteFor me, this was the most important event : it meant that the time from the Book of Revelation has come. Never before in history the powers that be - especially in so-called democratic countries -
had the audacity to implement coercion measures to get the people put something in their bodies, or else!

Oh dear, the end times, you do understand the pandemic is over and little came of it don't you?. No revelations, no raining down of cats and dogs or cats riding dogs on chunks of brimstone meowing quite loudly.

Everything is basically back to normal and we all got over it and moved on.... well most moved on.

AC

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 22, 2023, 06:49:40 AM
Wesley if you don't believe into overunity why are you then here ??
Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA)

I had some time to go over this video.The guy  is talented. He doesn't speak English .
The device is quite  eye catching.
Under the bottom of the device on the floor there is an electrical   power strip 
with  at least one  device connected to it .- Solder gun.

QuoteThe title of the video is:Magnetic repulsion power generator, part#1,
Patent pending.

Patent application number nor  application  was not found.
Patent office does not issue the patents with overunity  or perpetual motion devices.
So if it was really filed  than   it is dead fish and waste of money and time.
The only other  option is  that it was filed as linear motion device with  motor, but NOT SELF POWERED .
I do respect you Stefan very much.
But there is 0 chances that i can be wrong.
Wesley

Quote from: stivep on March 24, 2023, 07:08:15 PM

Patent office does n/t issue the patents  of overunity  or perpetual motion devices.
So if it was really filed  than   it is death fish and waste of money and time.

It would be sensible to call a device "Novel means for electrical energy generation" or something similarly weasel-like. This isn't so. Bedini has granted patents and so have plenty of others.

 Bedini was clever guy .
His patents if any didn't mention  overunity nor perpetual motion.
Is like cogging device we were  talking about  few weeks ago.
- by the way  does anyone have patent numbers  of Bedini inventions?

For me it is all ..   unfortunately a lack of education.
But that is me..  in terms of illusion: your mileage may vary ... 
:) Wesley

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 23, 2023, 10:17:33 PM
I have also found that the south field is detectable slightly farther then that of the north field which makes me scratch my head

among other things.... such as N pushes slightly stronger, and S attracts slightly stronger.


after thousands of hours experimenting to find answers, i chock it up to the crystal lattice within the material, not forming perfectly symmetry, but rather skewed in a particular manner,
which seems to be consistent among most dipoles, indicating a forward molecular vector (or self-perspective of the central atom/molecule)
could also be spin coherency, or a handful of other reasonable sounding theories.




these things may be important or advantageous in some cases (HJ Tech . magnetic focusers) but are generally ignored due to the small magnitude.

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 24, 2023, 03:38:52 PM
Globalism is the polar opposite to freedom. Its democratic mask has come off and we see it in all its glorified ugliness.

Globalism is the first step to World Spread Anarchy, and absolute freedom irrespective of government.
the process inherently makes all national governments less relevant than they already are.

Ref:
https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485 (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485)

Quote: "Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA) 

This is a follow-up video: (patent drawing at the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw

Here's the patent application numbers:

WO2018236818A1 (attached), and
US20200220447A1

Once you read the patents you will discover these are a different style of
patent disclosure - sort of sequencing type - software like (to avoid the usual
perpetual motion claim - patent denial).

Worth noting in the above patent submissions is the "confusing" drawings.

This is likely due to the fact the drawings stem from Computer Aided Engineering
3D Analysis (CAE) and are submitted as an "electronic" submission of some sort
(CD, pen drive, or other electronic storage media) which allows, in some cases,
to show a 3D Animation of the device being described or a detailed 3D "field" 
diagram.

Again, for reference:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw)
[drawings are shown at the end of the video]

This will probably become more common as time goes.

In the case of US20200220447A1 [attached], for example, Figure 1A. - I suspect
shows the actual 3D Magnetic Fields created by the "shields."

I suppose that all noise about overunity of some of devices which was patenting his owner in generally is coming from people. People who want to think so, and attribute these properties to them.Sometimes the inventors themselves sin with this, spread rumors. ;)
An example was Andrey Ermola from Kiev. He came up with his original gearbox design.
The Ukrainian patent says nothing about over-unity. It's just a gearbox.

Quote from: SolarLab on March 24, 2023, 08:18:23 PM
Ref:
https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485 (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485)

Quote: "Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA) 

This is a follow-up video: (patent drawing at the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw)

Here's the patent application numbers:

WO2018236818A1 (attached), and
US20200220447A1
___________________________________________________
Once you read the patents you will discover these are a _{different style of
patent disclosure - sort of sequencing type - software like (to avoid the usual
perpetual motion claim - patent denial).}

let me rephrase your last sentence:
Magicians _{have different style of //disclosure - sort of sequencing type -  (to avoid the usual
motion claim - public denial).}
___________________________________________________
Everything is for sale but in civilized world limit is stiffer.
Look below please.

QuoteThe reality of patent law:
- enough of money to build  the device , but not enough to bribe  these who could make "you" happy

So position and wealth matters even in civilized western world.
It may likely also explain why Trump is not in jail yet.

_{opinion expressed  is my own.}
Wesley

Quote from: kolbacict on March 25, 2023, 03:58:09 AM
I suppose that all noise about overunity of some of devices which was patenting his owner in generally is coming from people. People who want to think so, and attribute these properties to them.Sometimes the inventors themselves sin with this, spread rumors. ;)
An example was Andrey Ermola from Kiev. He came up with his original gearbox design.
The Ukrainian patent says nothing about over-unity. It's just a gearbox.

Firstly Andrey Ermola from Kharkov. Secondly, its gearbox converts the static mechanical pressure on the gearbox rod into a rotational torque. What does this mean: once you have created a force of a vector plan (for example, a jack) per unit of time and remove the torque. What is the output, connect your business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g0FcY-7Fw0&t=173s

https://www.youtube.com/@andreyermola

I don't argue about the fact that Yermola is from Kharkov. You know better, and a lot of time has passed, I don't remember. I don't argue about the fact that he invented the original gearbox with a large gear ratio. Respect to him. :)
But about the perpetual motion machine, I doubt it. :(

I don't care what various agents write, commissions to combat pseudoscience - the Russian Academy of Sciences (especially those whose native language is Russian). "Perpetual Motion" is too controversial a term. Ermola's reducer is a converter of static linear force into rotary motion. Any device has its own parameters and resource, especially a mechanical mechanism with rubbing parts.
Now let's imagine that you need to lift 10 tons with a jack, these 10 tons will be lifted by a jack, exactly until you release the jack. Next, let's say you compress the input rod of the Ermola gearbox with a jack, the output shaft rotates, setting the payload in motion. Within an hour, the force of the jack does not decrease. Within 2-3 hours by 5%, which requires little effort to maintain the appropriate pressure on the input rod of the Ermola reducer.
On the face of the device with OverUnit result.

Quote from: stivep on March 24, 2023, 07:08:15 PM
I had some time to go over this video.The guy  is talented. He doesn't speak English .
The device is quite  eye catching.
Under the bottom of the device on the floor there is an electrical   power strip 
with  at least one  device connected to it .- Solder gun.Patent application number nor  application  was not found.
Patent office does not issue the patents with overunity  or perpetual motion devices.
So if it was really filed  than   it is dead fish and waste of money and time.
The only other  option is  that it was filed as linear motion device with  motor, but NOT SELF POWERED .
I do respect you Stefan very much.
But there is 0 chances that i can be wrong.
Wesley

You could not find the patent application - so I found it for you. That's all...

The claim's drawings are unusual so I also explained that. And perpetual motion applications are difficult to patent, so
I explained the interesting wording found in the application. That's it, nothing more - just trying to help a bit..

You're welcome!

Quote from: stivep on March 25, 2023, 06:03:55 AM
let me rephrase your last sentence:
Magicians _{have different style of //disclosure - sort of sequencing type -  (to avoid the usual
motion claim - public denial).}
___________________________________________________
Everything is for sale but in civilized world limit is stiffer.
Look below please.So position and wealth matters even in civilized western world.
It may likely also explain why Trump is not in jail yet.

_{opinion expressed  is my own.}
Wesley
---------Quote from: SolarLab on Today at 01:18:23 AM (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575646/#msg575646)

Ref:
>https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485 (https://overunity.com/19339/is-this-the-beginning-of-the-end/msg575485/#msg575485)

Quote: "Check out this new generator that pruces 16 x OU !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UG77x4UZDA) 

This is a follow-up video: (patent drawing at the end)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuyNOVwLwVw)

Here's the patent application numbers:

WO2018236818A1 (attached), and
US20200220447A1
___________________________________________________
Once you read the patents you will discover these are a _{different style of
patent disclosure - sort of sequencing type - software like (to avoid the usual
perpetual motion claim - patent denial).}

let me rephrase your last sentence:
Magicians _{have different style of //disclosure - sort of sequencing type -  (to avoid the usual
motion claim - public denial).}

Let it run like a perpetual motion machine, I don't mind. :)
I just wanted to say that the patent does not say a word about it. Just a gearbox.

A Brilliant Patent Submission by JB MAHER (July 9, 2020)

Johnathan Bannon MAHER's patent submission "US 2020/0220447 A1" contains a very "subtle" approach
that will be appreciated by those "skilled-in-the-art."

It is spelled out on page 5 in the BACKGROUND paragraphs starting at [0003]. In short, the (broad) methods
and techniques disclosed in this patent are now "PUBLIC DOMAIN" since they have been presented therein
and the patent has now been abandoned. See attached...

Once you read at least the BACKGROUND it will hopefully become clear. 

SL

Icons of energy for free also known as  Free energy
Some individuals and  conclusions:
In USA - Stanley Meyer.
Died  "presumably" due to poisoning in 1998
https://environment.umn.edu/education/susteducation/stanley-meyer-an-infamous-invention-and-death/ (https://environment.umn.edu/education/susteducation/stanley-meyer-an-infamous-invention-and-death/)

In Georgia Europe
Tariel Kapanadze
Poisoned along with me in 2011 by some Russians in airplane from Prague in Czechia to Tbilisi Georgia
Died  in 2021.
https://tao-electric-universe.blogspot.com/2020/05/tesla-fuelless-generator-tariel-kapanadze.html (https://tao-electric-universe.blogspot.com/2020/05/tesla-fuelless-generator-tariel-kapanadze.html)
________
In the effect of it  we had/have clones/actors/ pretenders:
in USA Eric Dollard  https://ericpdollard.com/ (https://ericpdollard.com/)
He is an icon to many. Great  knowledge,  likely deteriorating with  age .
Controversial, rejecting and in disagreement with modern physics   
I was denied participation in their  "Bedini" Conference as a speaker due to my statement:
that I come from the ground of  conventional physics only.


Thematically from Tariel Kapanadze  roots:
SR  died  from  some Russians action  prior to his emigration to Canada.
Denis Dnieser  Moldovan killed in Ukraine by "presumably" Russians right before my trip to him to see his device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo)
Akula- Kazakhstan  no news about him for ~5 years
Ruslan Kalabuhov  Riga Latvia - presented  eye catching Kapanadze  or SR like
device. He earned some popularity. In the time of public request  - the scrutiny to show/ prove/answer to the demands
he postponed my visit  to  examine his device few times.
Two years ago while looking like somehow influenced by some  strong  drinks he made few video streams .
He deleted them shortly after that . I assume when he got more sober to look at them again.
It would be better for him if  he never  made it. "Tragically" discouraging  experience .
With all due respect to all of you the audience including Russian audience:
_{- You  mostly represent diversity where physics, electronics and  EM wave properties is not the best known. 
I think  majority of you have a....- too much problem  with it - and in Russia few per million are good - well .."somehow".. I think.}
___________________________________

Scrutiny and willingness to share:
Most  of these clones  mentioned above are made by "clowns" asking for public recognition
to fulfill  their personal needs. ( from self-esteem  to "money obtained illegally" activity.)

Is it good to give for free:
Answer : In my experience it is not.
Explanation:
1. people don't appreciate  given for free - gifts
2. Your satisfaction is likely for them to remember and they don't.
    They don't even remember to return  the favor or your things( tools) temporary given to them.
3.  Many of You are often not kind, offensive or aggressive  to these who  manifest  that they know more, better
     especially if  they dare to   push it  into your throat  if you are too ignorant to admit it.

3. Scrutiny.
    Most of you wants to see the new amazing and amassing. they would like to have it or make something similar.
    Reaction to inaccessibility  is often an attack:
    The Jew, The guy who says he knows, but doesn't show "it".
    The guy who says he is not for sale, and acting like so smart that  nobody wants to confront him.
    It is nothing wrong to oppose - Get your level and willingness to understand  first and than oppose.
    One of the friends from this forum was very manifesting much of his disappointment to my revelations
    that  I  was about to quit , as he has a manner  to interrupt, not listen to, or analyze  on demand.
     
 
4. Consequences:
Simple rules:
You want money than don't get married  with no money or don't have kids to soon as it 'll cost  you "all resources."
  -that is why kids of wealthy  are in Harvard University, Princeton,  MIT but not you.
  So they can find suitable  "other party" for marriage from their own at "their level"


You didn't go to America or Canada for better  from former  Soviet or  Russia today.
If you are Canadian  why didn't you move to USA for less tax and less public assistance but potentially more money.
If you are American with not much education why you didn't become  sanitation  garbage  removal worker for 250k/year
or electrician or plumber for much more than that  per year.
Blame yourself  for what is your life-like, your  public recognition level, and your chances.

_{I gave a lot, I sponsored, I helped, only to find all sort of negative outcome in the process or some time later}
Wesley
   

On the other hand

You could just develop various excess energy devices because you enjoy
the challenge and the success brings a great deal of personal satisfaction
(curse of the ever curious, I recon)! A hobby so to speak.

Or a simple "way-of-life" in a sense!

An old, but well known, story from "Investors Business Daily:"

An American investment banker was taking a much-needed vacation

An American investment banker was taking a much-needed vacation in a small coastal
Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. The boat had several
large, fresh fish in it.

The investment banker was impressed by the quality of the fish and asked the Mexican
how long it took to catch them. The Mexican replied, "Only a little while." The banker then
asked why he didn't stay out longer and catch more fish?

The Mexican fisherman replied he had enough to support his family's immediate needs.

The American then asked "But what do you do with the rest of your time?"

The Mexican fisherman replied, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siesta
with my wife, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my
amigos: I have a full and busy life, senor."

The investment banker scoffed, "I am an Ivy League MBA, and I could help you. You could
spend more time fishing and with the proceeds buy a bigger boat, and with the proceeds from
the bigger boat you could buy several boats until eventually you would have a whole fleet of
fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to the middleman you could sell directly to the
processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You could control the product, processing
and distribution."

Then he added, "Of course, you would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and
move to Mexico City where you would run your growing enterprise."

The Mexican fisherman asked, "But senor, how long will this all take?"

To which the American replied, "15-20 years."

"But what then?" asked the Mexican.

The American laughed and said, "That's the best part. When the time is right you would
announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich. You
could make millions."

"Millions, senor? Then what?"

To which the investment banker replied, "Then you would retire. You could move to a small
coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta
with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your
guitar with your amigos."

Have a good one...

Thats the American Dream in a nutshell


They sell us on the idea of doing an impossible amount of work
On the hopes of one day retiring and not having to work anymore.


In reality, if we have land and minimal processes to cover the taxes....


We were always free to retire any time we please.

Quote from: SolarLab on March 25, 2023, 05:50:34 PM
On the other hand

You could just develop various excess energy devices because you enjoy
the challenge and the success brings a great deal of personal satisfaction
(curse of the ever curious, I recon)! A hobby so to speak.

Or a simple "way-of-life" in a sense!

An old, but well known, story
Then you would retire. You could move to a small
coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta
with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your
guitar with your amigos."
Have a good one...

Despite of how nasty  you were to me  SolarLab  in the past, I respect you as another human animal and member  of this society.
-and only because of that  I reacted to you.

I must disagree with you:
For centuries the story of how  good  is to stay in poverty  was promoted  by  these with money who used ,abused, has taken advantage of,
personally you or your ancestors.
Fricken explication and officially acceptable version of a religious teaching.
-making  your children  to suffer because you have no money for their education.
Ya listen more to SolarLab... and die sooner  having no money for  your medical bills..
what a ... f...
_______________________________

My immunity is in my  ignorance to  public exposure, its reaction, or its opinion,
I have no ego, I'm independent , minimalist who cares less about 
offers, rewards,  more money  and so on.
If you work for pleasure and no more you are at must of  supporting yourself or your
family you are probably like me.
But such  - is unlikely  a domain of poverty.


I hope it helps you SolarLab to understand  more.
Wesley.

Quote from: stivep on March 25, 2023, 06:47:34 PM
Despite of how nasty  you were to me  SolarLab  in the past, I respect you as another human animal and member  of this society.
-and only because of that  I reacted to you.

I must disagree with you:
For centuries the story of how  good  is to stay in poverty  was promoted  by  these with money who used ,abused, has taken advantage of,
personally you or your ancestors.
Fricken explication and officially acceptable version of a religious teaching.
-making  your children  to suffer because you have no money for their education.
Ya listen more to SolarLab... and die sooner  having no money for  your medical bills..
what a ... f...
_______________________________

My immunity is in my  ignorance to  public exposure, its reaction, or its opinion,
I have no ego, I'm independent , minimalist who cares less about 
offers, rewards,  more money  and so on.
If you work for pleasure and no more you are at must of  supporting yourself or your
family you are probably like me.
But such  - is unlikely  a domain of poverty.


I hope it helps you SolarLab to understand  more.
Wesley.

stivep,

Fact is - you had me banned from this forum for mearly attempting to present a viable, technically solid, theory of how the
Ruslan/Acula/Kapanadze device worked. You also had those that dared to find my reasearch valid banned as well.

As it turns out it appears my theories were more correct than not - as we will soon see; not from me but from other
independant developers.

These facts are all still in these forums going back a few years. You cannot pretend you are not aware of this. You don't
like me because I challenge your "stuff" and I generally know what I'm talking about - so be it... you're not alone in that.

You can have your opinions - I respect that. But facts and technically correct information, ARE what they ARE.

My sole focus will remain on the design, development and analysis of Excess Energy.

And, I will not engage in anymore silly childesh games with you - it does not move the search and development of excess energy
forward in the least.

We are at the pinacle of a real energy revolution with respect to so called OU so it becomes imaterial and irrelevant what either
one of us, or anyone else, believes or disbelieves. Once the political turmoil subsides, and it soon will, the path will be wide open!

So, for me and any discussion, the end, right now, period! 

Good day,

SL

Dear Solar Lab you still   have problem to understand.
I had   only me and no power  to  make any changes .
It is only a response of this particular society that made me
start to exist as some value able to defend me against  any unhappy other member.
I think that you have value,  you are talented, you have a potential and you may develop a lot. 
I'm not your enemy.
At that particular moment in time  it was me or you in this  forum.
Society decided that they need me more.

Is it because  I'm  traditional in physics and based on checked, conformed,  applicable science?
Is it because I don't drift into  overunity, perpetual motion, antigravity ether, and similar BS or because  members
feel confident of not being fooled  by charlatans, magicians AND RUSSIAN TROLLS?
I don't know.
My wife quite well, and well educated, is so young that she could be my daughter  and she chose me too. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2PJVIkyW5Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2PJVIkyW5Y)
https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=19
I'm bad in  kitchen and  fricken  good  in phenomena of our interest, but  there are others better than me.
I wanted them to be in this forum .
To achieve that  I was in need to stop BS in this forum and not be ashamed to show it to them.
I can sale my time for real profit in my labs .
This forum is where   I give a lot  of my time and attention for free , get  satisfaction and  often  some education too.

_{I wish you the best.}
Wesley

Yea, what ever - over and out.

SL is clear!

Quote from: stivep on March 25, 2023, 09:27:37 PM
Dear Solar Lab you still   have problem to understand.
I had   only me and no power  to  make any changes .
It is only a response of this particular society that made me
start to exist as some value able to defend me against  any unhappy other member.
I think that you have value,  you are talented, you have a potential and you may develop a lot. 
I'm not your enemy.
At that particular moment in time  it was me or you in this  forum.
Society decided that they need me more.

Is it because  I'm  traditional in physics and based on checked, conformed,  applicable science?
Is it because I don't drift into  overunity, perpetual motion, antigravity ether, and similar BS or because  members
feel confident of not being fooled  by charlatans, magicians AND RUSSIAN TROLLS?
I don't know.
My wife quite well educated, is so young that she could be my daughter  and she chose me too. :)
I'm bad in  kitchen and  fricken  good  in phenomena of our interest, but  there are others better than me.
I wanted them to be in this forum .
To achieve that  I was in need to stop BS in this forum and not be ashamed to show it to them.
I can sale my time for real profit with my labs .
This forum is where   I give a lot  of my time and attention for free , get  satisfaction and  often  some education too.


Wesley

Westey,

That's some of the lamest crap I've heard in a while. WTF?

Wake up man. The forum will grind on with or without any individual member; its by design...
But it might function a whole lot better without some individuals. Do a self-evaluation and determine,
for yourself, if you're one of them.

And, yes I do have talent - more than you are capable of imagining, trust me! It's been more than proven.

But the real question is - do you?  It's up to you to determine your own "actual value add."

SL is clear... (off-line)

Draw a diagram of the universe in its' current state
Then one of the universe at a state of complete entropy


E1 = E2 / Time (from now until the end of time)


This is the exact value of free energy from the universal constant defined by and defined AS:
Thermodynamics


Divide this value by unit time and the volume of the universe.
And we have the precise value, per volume, per unit time of available free zero-point energy generated by the Law of Entropy.

Let's go another round:


Let us assume that the universe is expanding, and that expansion was accelerating


For Entropy to occur on a universal scale, infinite energy would have to be put into the system
to counteract the infinite energy that is adding to universal expansion.

We will resume this tomorrow - in a bit more detail...
It's quite interesting - as you wiil all see...
Pleasant dreames!

Quote from: stivep on March 25, 2023, 09:27:37 PM


.........  feel confident of not being fooled  by charlatans, magicians AND RUSSIAN TROLLS?  ..............

I won't fall for their tricks. I know their black souls. They manifest themselves in the first words during a conversation. Their main concern and the reason for their fierce hatred is the prosperity, tolerance and stability of the societies they attack.
              Their problem is that for various reasons they cannot and do not want to build a prosperous society, therefore they hate those who are not under their control and live better.  This is the main reason for attempts to destabilize prosperous countries by any means. For example, you can introduce communist ideology in the United States, which can completely destroy the economy of this country and start a civil war. After that, the USA will disappear from the world map. They told me about it themselves in Internet chats.
                Conclusion: trying to reach an agreement with them is like hugging Satan.

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 26, 2023, 04:49:56 AM
I won't fall for their tricks. I know their black souls. They manifest themselves in the first words during a conversation. Their main concern and the reason for their fierce hatred is the prosperity, tolerance and stability of the societies they attack.
              Their problem is that for various reasons they cannot and do not want to build a prosperous society, therefore they hate those who are not under their control and live better.  This is the main reason for attempts to destabilize prosperous countries by any means. For example, you can introduce communist ideology in the United States, which can completely destroy the economy of this country and start a civil war. After that, the USA will disappear from the world map. They told me about it themselves in Internet chats.
                Conclusion: trying to reach an agreement with them is like hugging Satan.

It's not the people's fault, it's those who govern. We see the same thing in North Korea or India or China.
If people are given different standards they will use them but these countries are still communist and stick together. The funny thing is that they should not tolerate each other because everyone wants to be the only one. China plays both sides and it is not known what they will do. You have to remember that China has been doing for a long time what Russia is doing with Ukraine, only it is not said. 1 Chinese is worth <$1 according to the Chinese government as long as there are many of them. Stalin said the same thing. We have a lot of people.
You are right that it is impossible to get along with the current authorities in Russia as other countries do, although this is only 50% of the truth. It's just that other countries don't tell us what they're doing behind our backs, and Russia doesn't hide it.
I don't know why people learn history when we repeat the same mistakes for a long time. History is just a chronicle of times, but it's still referenced by those who don't give a shit about that knowledge.
How will this war end? I don't know, but I see that after Putin will come bigger madmen.

Quote from: onepower on March 24, 2023, 04:35:50 PM
fxeconomist
Here's a clue.... the pandemic is over.

Oh, many got triggered and it was the end of the world, the end of democracy, the start of martial law and bla bla bla. However here we are and the pandemic is over.

Oh dear, the end times, you do understand the pandemic is over and little came of it don't you?. No revelations, no raining down of cats and dogs or cats riding dogs on chunks of brimstone meowing quite loudly.

Everything is basically back to normal and we all got over it and moved on.... well most moved on.

AC

This plandemic is over, sure. In the end of 2021 I was already thinking about doing something quickly as the vaccination bullshit was becoming stronger and stronger.

And then the war happened. Suddenly the powers that be found something else to batter us with : globalist propaganda about the superiority of the West to the Russia the aggressor.
The West was superior to Russia. That was long ago. This view is particular to the Cold War era, but hey, Russia is no longer communist anymore and the West is no longer a beacon of freedom and democracy,
but rather a beacon of darkness.

So yes the world is seemingly back to a normal level. At least there is a... or there was... a breathing moment. Until the next crisis. They didn't vaxx everyone with the Covid shot ? They might do it next time.
Marburg virus ? Or whatever else to "get our attention" as Bill Gates put it..

Is this not a Revelation time ? For sure it marked a premiere. For the first time in the history of democracy, states conditioned the right to work by a mandatory injection.
This means open war has been declared and from now on, everything is possible.

Quote from: onepower on March 24, 2023, 04:20:40 PM
fxeconomist
No globalism is based on the belief that people, goods and information should to be able to cross national borders unrestricted. Globalism is just a larger version of what already happens inside most free countries. In Canada were free to move about and trade goods/services and information with few if any restrictions. We can also visit other countries any time we choose for as long as we want because we are free.

I agree with your definition of globalism, in a way. That's how I knew globalism when I was a six grader. A common set of rules applied to states across the world, to foster freedom and development. I was naive.

But one thing was okay with me as a six grader. I passionately hated the Romanian neoliberal "Right Wing".

I did not associate it with globalism or even "The West" as they portrayed themselves. First because I believed globalism was truly civilised and The Right Wing's austerity obsession's do not match either the prosperity and respect towards citizens in the West, and globalism as a consequence.

I mean, the West didn't develop thru utter destruction of factories, mass unemployment and a battering austerity. This remained a staple of my political thinking as a teenager, that the neoliberal Right Wing was full of shit and I
vowed to myself to never vote for them. My parents did vote for them once in 1996. My father died of lung cancer that December, two weeks before the installment of Victor Ciorbea's government and the announcement of the era of "tightening the belt" and "shock therapy" - an inauguration speech which can no longer be found anywhere, even on youtube, as the globalist CIA alligned Romanian Intelligence has completely wiped that from history, and young #resist morons of today have no clue about it and the reason that underpin the huge resistance of elderly population to the wonders of Globalism.

And it took us many many years until we found out that the idea was wrong: the Right Wing was not a Romanian abhorrent political tribe, it was a creation of the "West" as the West planned even the early 2000s, to arrest several
Social-Dem leaders, as the Social-Dem party (at least the old one) was long time a force to be reckoned with for its good policies that were abhorrent to the US Left: our PSD was about workers, pensioners, children, the people in general, it was not about minorities, LGBT and the crap that the current Left is about...

The globalists have managed to put in prison two presidents of the Social-Dem party : Adrian Nastase, PM 2000-2004, as well the recent Liviu Dragnea, for his sovereignist policies. Who was there to support the sorosist narrative of
anticorruption in early 2000s which led to the establishment of the political police division known as The National Anti-Corruption Directorate. The second bitch after Hillary, Victoria Nuland.

We'll see if the list of the two is completed by Donald Trump. He met our current bastard and repeated the same anti-corruption bullshit speech the sorosist traitors around him wrote for him. He learned nothing of the stolen elections of Romania and has fallen victim. Can say, he quite deserved the fall. And America deserves to fall, for what it did to world, but what it did to us Romanians also.

Quote from: onepower on March 24, 2023, 04:20:40 PM
fxeconomist
The opposite of globalism is obviously fascism and communism which restricts all these freedoms of movement, trade and information. Which obviously explains why fascism and communism are opposed to globalism and global freedom.

It's actually kind of comical because if global movement was unrestricted all the intelligent people would be leaving every fascist/communist shit hole as fast as there legs could carry them. Where would they go, maybe the happiest countries or those with the best quality of life or freedoms and opportunities.

Here's a clue, almost every fascist/communist country does not allow most people to move or leave as they choose. This is because if most people could leave they probably would. Hence all the big barb wire fences, walls and border crossings to keep everyone in. There basically slaves or prisoners within there own country which is mind boggling. These communist countries are just very large prisons...

AC

Where did you study politics, at Hillary Clinton's school ?

Globalism is the best fit for fascism

What is one of the main traits of the world today ? Corporatism.

This is taken from the Wikipedia page for corporatism : "Corporatism became one of the main tenets of fascism, and Benito Mussolini's fascist regime in Italy advocated the collective management of the economy by state officials by integrating large interest groups under the state".

What, you think fascism and nazism are "racism", as the BS propaganda in the states fills the minds of uneducated youngsters ?

The Covid crisis has shown the extent of corporatism in this new globalist, fascist regime. There was no need for law, it just needed a current of opinion, perpetrated by the usual tool, the media, so that corporations introduced mandatory vacccinations, under the belief that our freedoms are good weather freedoms, and can't stay the same when it's raining.

And when you have this huge concentration of power in the hands of 3-4 funds, such as Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street, that own corporations and more corporations, they just need to sign up to Progresive policies, and these Progressive policies will affect a large number of employees, stronger than even the grip of the law.

So practically corporations have their made their own law, and this is a result of globalist fascism, the cooperation between states and corporations, exactly what the World Economic Forum is about.

Cause if there wouldn't be this cooperation, what power would they have ?

Anyway, further bibliography:
FASCISM DEFINED | The Difference between Fascism and National Socialism : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdY_IMZH2Ko
Hitler's Socialism | Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments : www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8 (this is a four hour doc)

Romania is a peculiar country, in which the usual Left is considering itsefl the Right. Romanian #rezist, which opposed the old Social-Democratic Party, always considered itself right-winger.
Though in all the other countries, sorosist movements like #resist acknowledge their Left orientation, our Romanian guys say they are Right Wingers.

This is because the long doctrine of the Right was that everything good is communist : the peaceful life was offered in communism like secure place of work, flats handed out by the state, a stable economy,
THE SOVEREIGNITY OF THE STATE, the traditional family, even The Church. All of these are considered by them in Romania as being communist, that is, of course, in opposition to globalist values.

For this reason, any talk of opposition to Europe, to LGBT, to Slava Ukraine, to climate change or any other narrative created by globalists paints you as a "putinist".
#rezist morons - and they're not alone - still use the terms "Russian" and "soviet" interchangeably. Even though communism has gone from Romania in 1989, and the USSR has collapsed in 1991, they still consider Russia as communist though they are communist themselves, supporting the World Economic Forum policies about the destruction of private property!.

This is because Russia stands against the corrupted, demented values of the nowadays West, and since communism has fallen 30 years ago - we even had a so-called "Revolution" in 1989 that was a coup - we are somehow prohibited from having Christian conservative values that were the backbone of the Eastern Europe countries in communist times.

So as you can see, the propaganda is a mish-mash of words and concepts, rotated from country to country, depending on the beliefs and the ideals of that nation.
You can come with masked violent Antifa troopers showing red communist flags in the United States, and then at the same time, violently oppose any criticism of Europe of the West for being "communist", in Europe.
Ain't that the epitome of hypocrisy!...

However, even Russian troops in the Donbass used the red flag of communist USSR. For a simple reason: it means something to the people. A beacon of better times, of normal times. And that's more powerful than any other flag.
You can put the cross on any flag. It doesn't mean "resistance to globalism". But the red communist flag, in the Eastern Europe, that's what it means. It doesn't mean the same thing in China.

And one thing : if nazism was "National Socialism", globalism is for sure "Global Socialism".

Could there have been a "National Socialism" if Hitler were to win the 2nd world war, or we'd have had a "Global Socialism" instead ?

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 25, 2023, 11:15:04 PM
Let's go another round:


Let us assume that the universe is expanding, and that expansion was accelerating


For Entropy to occur on a universal scale, infinite energy would have to be put into the system
to counteract the infinite energy that is adding to universal expansion.

Just supposing you were sitting on the plumbob of a huge pendulum which naturally swings from the 4 o' clock position on the clockface to the 8 o' clock position and back - but you didn't know this.
What you have said you would say as the plumbob moved from the 4 o' clock point to the 5 o' clock position.
There might be someting analogous to the Earth, which, of course, controls the p[endulum.

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 26, 2023, 06:28:39 AM
Can say, he quite deserved the fall. And America deserves to fall, for what it did to world, but what it did to us Romanians also.

Are you that sick in the head to think the 99% that had nothing to do with all this BS from the 1% controlling elitist screwing up America and the world.
You sadly forget the 150 of the richest people in the world (Bilderberg Group) has many Governments under their control and the fact they make billions of of both sides of the war. They are the controlling elite behind the pope in a three block area in London England that are hell bent on the destruction of man kind yet you peddle your BS and blame all of American's for this Genocide acts on humanity which is completely unfounded and borderline gutless acceptance of your own shortcomings.

I live in America and would love to leave it as "WE THE PEOPLE" are starving with basic necessities getting more and more scarce. The power elites have this world so screwed up with every single element we need for survival poisoned by their greed and lust for power. How dare you blame the innocent as we had absolutely nothing to do with your misfortune.

So while you sit there running your mouth blaming all of America for your problems and the problems in this world I am struggling to find the money to heat my house or what groceries I can't buy this month because of the power elitist robbing us blind or purposely burning factories that produce food. Please tell the neighbor kid next door that I am a bad person for feeding her because her mother freaked out from all the pressure and is now on drugs. Yes!, I the American you blame for your problems is struggling under the twisted power elitist also.

I would suggest you put the blame on the people that created this mess we are in and not the 99% innocent you are pointing your finger at. You sound just like most black people in America and now wanting a free handout just because their great, great grandfather was a slave which was sold into slavery by their own kings to the Dutch.

Dividing us is the ultimate goal,
Fighting amongst us their best result...


_They_ work very hard for a long time at this divide and conquer....
  Here we have a common goal !


Let's stick to that ..

"Dividing us is the ultimate goal,
Fighting amongst us their best result...


_They_ work very hard for a long time at this divide and conquer....
  Here we have a common goal !"

Absolutely spot on, divided we fall united we stand. If we all stand together "THEY" will fall.

FREE ENERGY WILL NOT CHANGE THE WORLD,

IT WILL BARELY GIVE US A FIGHTING CHANCE.

If we succeed in building our solutions.

The time is extremely short. I was thinking 2 years, but I feel the word "months" flickering.

To understand this, we have to understand who and why. Who hid free energy, who impeached inventors and why.

And here we have the globalists. They were already a "ruthless conspiracy" by the time they killed JFK in '63.

Once they had Maxwell's equations they were ready to create the "there is no free enery" paradigm in order to ridicule inventors, block solutions from appearing commercially and creating an university environment which would scorn the very idea and thus put students on any other research track.

Why they did it ? It was not just for the money of those damn energy companies.

There was a communist world out there for more than half of the XXth century. That communist world didn't have energy corporations. Yet free energy was also scorned there.

I remember when I was a kid my dad told me that there is free energy and inventions have been hidden, and we had a communist country back then.

Money didn't matter. What mattered was control. Now you understand that at a very baseline level, the communist bloc was on the same track as the West. It couldn't have happened that some communist country would
suddenly develop public free energy production plants.

Once free energy developed, a good reason for wars simply vanishes. Oh, and let's not forget water. Desalination would be easy peasy. So all of these would have been possible, but they didn't happen anywhere. And it didn't happen in the communist world also because it would have endangered the whole status quo of the Masonic Great Work - The New World Order.

THERE WILL BE NO FREE ENERGY AS LONG AS THERE IS A BIT OF FREEDOM.

Free energy will come. It will cost nothing... but your soul. When you'll have the one-way-to-pay on your right hand or your forehead, they'll give you as much energy as you want. But not until then.

FX
You think too much ( gonna pull a brain muscle...)
Here it's a simple goal shared by "most" ( maybe not you ?)
Open source FE research!
Please don't just make noise towards dividing us ...
Roll up your sleeves for something besides the keyboard...( wars)


Respectfully
Chet k

fxeconomist

QuoteI agree with your definition of globalism, in a way. That's how I knew globalism when I was a six grader. A common set of rules applied to states across the world, to foster freedom and development. I was naive.

You should agree because the definition I posted is the accepted dictionary definition of the term globalism.
"Globalism is based on the belief that people, goods and information should to be able to cross national borders unrestricted"
The definition is obvious and logical unlike the long winded communist propaganda you posted.

What you seem to be implying very poorly is that some may have corrupted the original concept of globalism and there are many inherent problems associated with it's application. Of course, any time we have more than a hand full of people together we have problems. The problems mainly what you just demonstrated by dragging all your own false beliefs and baggage into the equation.

On seeing things through the eyes of a child, this is not necessarily naive but more so being a true realist. Most children only see the reality of a situation unlike there parents who have been brain washed by society. Which may explain why almost all the successful free energy inventors claimed there technology was so simple even a child could understand it. In effect, a pure un-corrupted mind not polluted by all the propaganda most believe.

It's strange, an average 6 year old would look you square in the eyes without flinching and see right though all your bs. You could be spewing all your communist propaganda and hate but they would just stand there looking right through you. Children have a gift to see people for what they really are not what there pretending to be.

AC

Quote from: ramset on March 26, 2023, 12:55:47 PM
FX

Roll up your sleeves for something besides the keyboard...( wars)

Right now designing the acrylic base for the modified homopolar generator I am working on.
Perhaps I'm overdoing it by coding it in OpenScad but I think I have to fully visualize this before I order the parts.

Quote from: onepower on March 26, 2023, 01:17:22 PM
fxeconomist

On seeing things through the eyes of a child, this is not necessarily naive but more so being a true realist. Most children only see the reality of a situation unlike there parents who have been brain washed by society. Which may explain why almost all the successful free energy inventors claimed there technology was so simple even a child could understand it. In effect, a pure un-corrupted mind not polluted by all the propaganda most believe.

It's strange, an average 6 year old would look you square in the eyes without flinching and see right though all your bs. You could be spewing all your communist propaganda and hate but they would just stand there looking right through you. Children have a gift to see people for what they really are not what there pretending to be.

AC

I already see this in the eyes of my nephew, and he's in the last highschool years. I know he belongs to the terminated generation, the generation to fully embrace the insanity of the technocratic, post-human world the globalists are building to its full extent : approval of the propaganda, loving the values of that civilisation up until it becomes a religion - the final religion ("the great falling away" of 2 Thessalonians).

I think from this point on, parents have already become largely unavailable to communicate anything spiritual to their children. Anything spiritual, about the core reality of the world, is insanity to this generation.

I remember when I was younger and grandpa was asking me "Where will all this technology go ?". And I was stupid and telling him "Well, tech is gonna be faster and faster. Photorealistic entertainment, VR...", but I didn't envision the rise of the AI and the transformation of technology in a tool to enslave us all and bring an end to the adamic humanity.

The simplicity of children got transformed in something grotesque. They are no longer seeing the normal things adults were unable to, now children themselves are completely drenched in this Matrix of deception.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 26, 2023, 11:42:38 AM
Are you that sick in the head to think the 99% that had nothing to do with all this BS from the 1% controlling elitist screwing up America and the world.
You sadly forget the 150 of the richest people in the world (Bilderberg Group) has many Governments under their control and the fact they make billions of of both sides of the war. They are the controlling elite behind the pope in a three block area in London England that are hell bent on the destruction of man kind yet you peddle your BS and blame all of American's for this Genocide acts on humanity which is completely unfounded and borderline gutless acceptance of your own shortcomings.

I live in America and would love to leave it as "WE THE PEOPLE" are starving with basic necessities getting more and more scarce. The power elites have this world so screwed up with every single element we need for survival poisoned by their greed and lust for power. How dare you blame the innocent as we had absolutely nothing to do with your misfortune.

So while you sit there running your mouth blaming all of America for your problems and the problems in this world I am struggling to find the money to heat my house or what groceries I can't buy this month because of the power elitist robbing us blind or purposely burning factories that produce food. Please tell the neighbor kid next door that I am a bad person for feeding her because her mother freaked out from all the pressure and is now on drugs. Yes!, I the American you blame for your problems is struggling under the twisted power elitist also.

I would suggest you put the blame on the people that created this mess we are in and not the 99% innocent you are pointing your finger at. You sound just like most black people in America and now wanting a free handout just because their great, great grandfather was a slave which was sold into slavery by their own kings to the Dutch.

The people aren't blameless.

Romanians aren't blameless also. We explained those idiots, in all those 30+ years, "Hey, don't be such bastards, don't vote for these austerity maniacs that screw us all". Simple things. And what did they do ? After a few years of
relative good, austerity comes back. And the older electorate of these bastards, they know very well what they vote, but they like to consider themselves superior to the others, "anticommunists". And bring misery to all.

So, we at least had this internal war between the two populations - what used to be the Social-Dems electorate on one hand, and the Right Wingers, on the other - since 1990, but far more sharpened after the Democratic Convention years of hell (1996-2000).

But Americans were absolutely oblivious. I mean, when did it begin in US ? 2016 ? Kinda late. Living la dolce vita while the Washington infection destroys the world ? Now it finally starts to hurt.
America is done for. The Constitution is done for. You couldn't put Donald Trump there a second time. You even lost the midterms after the propaganda gained women with the abortion issue.

IF I WERE IN THE PLACE OF DONALD TRUMP, I WOULD HAVE SECEDED THE RED STATES! I WOULD HAVE MADE A SECOND US REPUBLIC!

So as we all have the Right Winger "anticommunist" older idiots, plus #rezist young progressive Right Winger morons, plus an unknown part of the Social-Dem electorate who can't let go voting this party gone globalist, all of these being our problem as a people, you have this Democrat electorate who are the useful idiots for the elite clique.

So the blame belongs also to the people. What to do then ? Trying to wake people up ? Too late.

As Steve Quayle said a million times, "There is no political solution to a spiritual problem". Develop an OU solution and get the hell out asap...

NOPE! all the bull shit started in 1913 when the beast was let back through the door. >:(

Doesn't matter is Republican or Democrat, they are of two heads of the same beast and you can't vote them out in a corrupt system of Laws to protect themselves.  :'( Complete lack of empathy!

Very correct on the ou thing. Building it then getting the hell out of dodge like maybe the jungle in Peru or something there of with a few honey's in tow. ;D Then just sit back and watch them blow each other up and maybe just maybe I won't die from the poison clouds.

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 26, 2023, 02:55:22 PM
NOPE! all the bull shit started in 1913 when the beast was let back through the door. >:(

Doesn't matter is Republican or Democrat, they are of two heads of the same beast and you can't vote them out in a corrupt system of Laws to protect themselves.  :'( Complete lack of empathy!

Very correct on the ou thing. Building it then getting the hell out of dodge like maybe the jungle in Peru or something there of with a few honey's in tow. ;D Then just sit back and watch them blow each other up and maybe just maybe I won't die from the poison clouds.

We will never know when it did begin. This beast existed all the way thru history. Don't forget Pharao's priests managed to cast their rods into serpents...

But the establishment of the Federal Reserve was a strong nail to the coffin.

I was talking instead about the true fight between We The People and the Elite. This has quite started in Romania of the 90s, because there was solid opposition to the lies of the Right Wing, and has been all the time during
these 30+ years. Solid opposition that was not present in the West. We were envying the people of the West for not actually caring who wins the elections, while we were cursed to pay attention, fear and fight our enemies, while in the West, nobody seemed to have risked so dire consequences like us poor regular Romanians. This fight has begun around 2016 in United States...

For this reason the Social-Dem from Romania was absolutely hated by its counterpart, the US Democrat Party. US Ambassadors sent by the Left were absolute scumbags in a total conflict with both the people and the Social-Dem party. Exceptions where Michael Guest, who was the most loved US ambassador ever, and the sorosist scumbag that Trump managed to send...

I live in Britain, and here poltitics is absolute bullshit on all sides. People locked themselves out of true democracy with the First Past the Post referendum in 2011. Britain doesn't even have a representative democracy, it's an absolute farce and unfortunately British Christian conservatives are in a more precarious condition that US Christian conservatives.

fxeconomist

QuoteI already see this in the eyes of my nephew, and he's in the last highschool years. I know he belongs to the terminated generation, the generation to fully embrace the insanity of the technocratic, post-human world the globalists are building to its full extent : approval of the propaganda, loving the values of that civilisation up until it becomes a religion - the final religion ("the great falling away" of 2 Thessalonians).

I think from this point on, parents have already become largely unavailable to communicate anything spiritual to their children. Anything spiritual, about the core reality of the world, is insanity to this generation.

Of course, the alternate view is that the days of deluded old men worshiping imaginary friends in the sky needs to end.

So to recap, you hate children, civilization and technology because it could become a religion just like your supposed religion. Uhm... who do you think invented your religion?.

I think Ricky Gervais nailed it...

QuoteNext time someone tells me they believe in God, I'll say 'Oh which one? Zeus? Hades? Jupiter? Mars? Odin? Thor? Krishna? Vishnu? Ra?...' If they say 'Just God. I only believe in the one God,' I'll point out that they are nearly as atheistic as me. I don't believe in 2,870 gods, and they don't believe in 2,869.

AC

Ahh
Almost the trifecta of perpetual rumbling
Just missing one ...
Politics
Religion and
_Sports_


Always good for a brawl ( just pick one ...almost doesn't matter which, when or where...
Perfectly loopable energy .. in perpetuity... all the way back to  the first "pulse" on the planet
A Dust up waiting to happen!
Bliss ....


Perhaps we could drill some holes in the boat too ... ?

Quote from: fxeconomist on March 26, 2023, 01:40:04 PM
I already see this in the eyes of my nephew, and he's in the last highschool years. I know he belongs to the terminated generation, the generation to fully embrace the insanity of the technocratic, post-human world the globalists are building to its full extent : approval of the propaganda, loving the values of that civilisation up until it becomes a religion - the final religion ("the great falling away" of 2 Thessalonians).

I think from this point on, parents have already become largely unavailable to communicate anything spiritual to their children. Anything spiritual, about the core reality of the world, is insanity to this generation.

I remember when I was younger and grandpa was asking me "Where will all this technology go ?". And I was stupid and telling him "Well, tech is gonna be faster and faster. Photorealistic entertainment, VR...", but I didn't envision the rise of the AI and the transformation of technology in a tool to enslave us all and bring an end to the adamic humanity.

The simplicity of children got transformed in something grotesque. They are no longer seeing the normal things adults were unable to, now children themselves are completely drenched in this Matrix of deception.

You as a role model accepting an undesirable fate to a young person you act for as role model, might not be the way to go here.
There are also sources that offer there are more than one ideologies to consider going forward (insane, huh?).
Young people are a true new generation in that they are primed to think for themselves more. For some that may mean they'll try herd behavior first, get it out of their system. They are inherently better positioned to achieve great things with self development, more so than the average older people. They are smarter, wiser, more spiritual, on average. They get to choose their life and change their minds as often as they like, to hone in on their best self. As are we.

Quote from: onepower on March 26, 2023, 03:52:04 PM
fxeconomist
Of course, the alternate view is that the days of deluded old men worshiping imaginary friends in the sky needs to end.

So to recap, you hate children, civilization and technology because it could become a religion just like your supposed religion. Uhm... who do you think invented your religion?.

AC

I do not hate children. I was like them. I am a big kid. I love technology, I love gaming and all of that.
I got my life screwed. So be it. Live lowly. Have my gaming. Have my fun.

But now it's too much. As I said, with the plandemic, the regular austerity bastards have declared war on mankind.

And truly, in the previous Christianity paradigm, I would have been unworthy of salvation. I think I still am, but this is certainly changing.

For now there is an absolute danger, and in the face of an absolute danger, God is waning on his principles : suddenly sin is no longer that important,
but resistance until the end.

Mmm, I kinda like this practical religion. Finally an enemy I can deal with, in the realm of reality, here and now : globalism.
Finally our usual enemy that has screwing our lives has declared war on God too.

It gave me a true purpose now, and I can see true wealth is no longer about money. True wealth will be keeping our freedom when all others will lose everything. . Their homes, their money, their privacy and their freedom, living as digital slaves by the holy carbon score, with the fear that if they say something, government will just turn the chip off. Like Rockefeller once told Aaron Russo.

And yes, you had to declare your atheism. Couldn't care less. Reality is objective. It exists, it manifests whether or not we believe.

And I used to revolve around forex and trading. Hence the name, fxeconomist. Never made money from that, but I made from binary options instead.
I understood very very well what risk means. That experience changed me for good. Once that I lived having the edge in trading, I understood what it means to not have it. When it was no longer possible to trade that way, I quit for good.

If the Book of Revelation holds true, 99% at least from the Westerners and the Chinese are actually screwed forever.
I can't allow this to happen to me. From a risk analysis point of view, I am facing the final challenge.

What do you risk in your atheist view ? Nothing. You are going into the most wondrous time in the history of mankind. Very well, go with the flow.
I just take the opposite road. We'll see who was right when we die. But one thing: the one laughs in the end, laughs better.

See that you don't go thru a black swan event, when the most unthinkable, ilogical, despicable thing such as the existence of life beyond death and a biblical God can mean to somebody with an aversion to that, who not just hates the idea of God, but takes the final bad choice.

In the end probabilities are 50/50. Something either exists, or it doesn't. I have nothing to lose if it doesn't. If there is no afterlife, I will become dust and my soul will not exist anymore. I will not experience either remorse or joy, as nothing of me will continue to experience reality. But what do you have to lose if your reasoning is wrong ? Beware the "OH FUCK" moment. When you will appear there not just as an atheist, but as one wearing the Mark, oh yeah, the one-secure-way-to-pay...

You know the fun thing, Left has created the paradigm of the official truth, and all else that stands contrary to it, is either "conspiracy theory" and "fake news".
There is however, only one Leftist Conspiracy Theory. That Christianity was invented as a control tool.
And while yes, the Catholic Church has used it in the Middle Ages as a control tool, can't say it works anymore. It happened as Paul predicted. The world is going thru the great falling away. You may think that the control tool has faded completely.

But Christianity forecasted its own demise, and warned against going with the technocratic view. How did a 2000 year old text knew about the most recent developments of the World Economic Forum ? If it was just an invention back then ?

And if it was created by evil men as a control tool, why didn't end with the idea "Go with the flow, do not oppose the changes, everything will be fine". Why is a 2000 year old control tool making people rise against the authorities and the policies of today ? Cause a control tool is made by the powers that be, so why would powers that be make a control tool to inspire uprising against themselves ? Let me tell you : while it was used as such in history, when the situation allowed for such use, it is not a control tool, but a history of our connection to a paranormal entity called God.

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 26, 2023, 05:12:30 PM
You as a role model accepting an undesirable fate to a young person you act for as role model, might not be the way to go here.
There are also sources that offer there are more than one ideologies to consider going forward (insane, huh?).
Young people are a true new generation in that they are primed to think for themselves more. For some that may mean they'll try herd behavior first, get it out of their system. They are inherently better positioned to achieve great things with self development, more so than the average older people. They are smarter, wiser, more spiritual, on average. They get to choose their life and change their minds as often as they like, to hone in on their best self. As are we.

I'm not a role model for my nephew. He's far better at his age than I ever was back then. He will undoubtedly have success.
But unfortunately this success is like speed going downhill. You just cannot stop anymore.
If I am right about the end of freedom in the next 1-2 years, he won't even have the time to see that. It's like the blink of an eye for their degree of blindness.
They are the #resist generation, unfortunately. Zero knowledge of history, politics, and the core reality of the world. All they know is propaganda.
And I can say that being blind also to spiritual matters makes it all worse. Without belief in God and understanding of what is truly happening, there is no reason to resist. They will not say no to becoming transhuman puppets, and some of them won't see even after the final choice. Perhaps it's better that way.

I knew that after my previous post, I needed to prepare champagne.   Since it's time for fairy tales.   :)   :)   :)   :)

More technical discussion and less "CRAP" might be nice!
Just my humble opinion, of course.

You know the old saying "Opinions are like AH's, and some have more than one!

TECHNICAL works here - opinions and stupid shit, well, try Redit or Farsebook...

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 27, 2023, 02:09:54 AM
I knew that after my previous post, I needed to prepare champagne.   Since it's time for fairy tales.   :)   :)   :)   :)

BorisKrabow,

You guys must realiaze your beat at this point, right!

Trolling, Shill, LARP stuff is finished - too many OU devices just waiting for the Open Gate now!

Of couse most of the open source OU guys support UNICEF and we support Troll $$$ so you can still
provide a few cans of "Dog Food" for your children but the writing is on the wall -  your handlers
and the Cabal must know this!

I suggest you plan accordingly - and move to the right side...

SL

Quote from: rakarskiy on March 25, 2023, 07:07:22 AM
Firstly Andrey Ermola from Kharkov. Secondly, its gearbox converts the static mechanical pressure on the gearbox rod into a rotational torque. What does this mean: once you have created a force of a vector plan (for example, a jack) per unit of time and remove the torque. What is the output, connect your business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g0FcY-7Fw0&t=173s

https://www.youtube.com/@andreyermola

     Okay let's get to work .  I see an interesting technology here and I think that it is necessary to open a new topic in the appropriate section.  It would be a pity if she was forgotten. Perhaps there are great prospects here.

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 27, 2023, 04:39:15 AM
     Okay let's get to work .  I see an interesting technology here and I think that it is necessary to open a new topic in the appropriate section.  It would be a pity if she was forgotten. Perhaps there are great prospects here.

I see an impressive gearbox. No visibile leakage is a big accomplishment already.
The torque on that output is minute probably, if the input isn't move a full pixel.
In there was good torque, we're been shown such.

Those who think I'm an atheist still; I'm reading this now:
https://2020portal.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/macdonald-bayne-divine-healing-of-mind-and-body-.pdf
Hardcore Christians will probably go: "but but but, he floated away! Supposed to come back in the flesh, but we didn't mean THAT way...!"

Quote from: Cloxxki on March 24, 2023, 09:22:29 AM
<sub>// near 100% Russian ethnicity right on the border, were ready to declare absolute hate for anything Russian.
even Ukrainian // joined team hate.
Azov committing genocide on // brothers and sisters in Donbass, pretending it was Russia that did all the killing there, reducing the supposed motives to "they suck, they are evil, Putin wants to colonize the world". 2014 was an invastion, then 8 years of war, and THEN supposedly Russia invaded. Wait, weren't they killing your countrymen for 8 years, both the one in Donbass and the UKR military bombing the shit out of it? Ukraine wants to have it both ways.
More ways.
Free dollars to rain on the corrupt leaders, happily to be full on nazis, with the swastika flags open in the streets, no face masks even.
Dollars are the nectar that make them feel like gods.
In my country, there are more homeless people eating from trashcans than ever in my life.
None of them are Ukrainians, they come here and get nice appartments and ample income, they are treated like gods.
While the ideologicals (proverbial) songs they sing perfectly rhymes with the nazi tunes from the 30s and 40s.
//I think I know enough to recognize toxic nationalism that has started to condone genocide.
I felt it, the first time in my live, on Maidan Square.
I feel it, when I speak to Ukrainian immigrants.
Some actually agree with me// So many believe it, love it, thrive on it.// when you're fueled by hate, you can get it anywhere, anytime.
With some propaganda as well explained during the WW2 trials, it gets really easy.

Globalists are a factor,//Hate is their most used and most effective tool. //
See how quickly Germany was able to rebound. //
Doesn't mean I'll be very patient with those who choose hate though.
Wesley with his blind hatred and fear for Russia, it's just sad.
It's so powerful in the likes of him, that we only need to attribute something to a Russian and he'll hate it just for that reason.
What a mighty weapon to wield, hatred for anything Russian, so you only need to put all your crimes in contract to something you
loosely associate with Russia and all critical thought will be foregone.
Steal your wife, say she's needed to kill the Russians.
Steal your kid, say it's needed to feed the dogs you're sending after Russia.
A hate sect has been created, but it's larger than most organized religions.
Even the Russian language and church being banned,
Especially since Russians where the heroes there, all but defeaiting the nazis before the western nations stopped
twiddling their thumbs and came to Normady to plant some flags.//
USA throwing nukes and worse on the softest targets far from home and taking their sweet time to help out
Europe showed that the nazis were not the only evil in WW2.
Those who plant the flags write the history though.
Those who hold the media now control the thoughts of those who are exposed to said media.
It takes a hero to publicly oppose local media or national politicies and ideologies.</sub>

grammatical errors:
Donbass, invastion,  nazis, ideologicals, appartments, defeaiting, Normady

I started to make cuts, but gave up.
Here is a point.
I speak Russian better than most of Russians in regions.I was never in Russian Federation.
I learned Russian here from two Russian scientists - my employees.
I have friends in Russia and  I respect  many Russians  very much.

Suppose I talk to a Russian troll _{or some  Russian troll (despite of his nationality  it could be Serbian too.)}
I'm asking him how low he can fall deep into filthy dumpster?
For how much he sales himself , prostituting  his own value without a valid  work license._{( Nevada  is different)?}
I spend  for a  Starbucks coffee  more than  he makes per day of work.
A  picture of a troll - brainwashed, and feared  looking at some protestors jailed for holding empty piece of paper in
his/her  hands - it is a form of a protest  in Russia the country  of terror.
Due to  the work of a Russian troll innocent people get arrested for 7 or 11 years in jail  just for commenting
in social platform or  YouTube video, marking  "like" or even "smile" icon under someone comment  .
Troll also fabricates non existing evidence, of bend reality of lies. 

Dear Cloxxki all of it what you wrote about me and Ukraine is a lie. All 100%
Tell me  Cloxxki for how much I can buy  a Russian troll?
Is it a value of two Starbucks coffee in New York or  5 of them per day?
How much less a Russian troll makes  per  day comparing to a prostitute in your country  for a full service?
Would you work for me, if I pay you  two times (twice) as much as Russian troll a student makes per week?
I can really afford  it even if  it  cost me more than a hotdog  and french fries  in a fast food in NY.
Average Russian earning per month is  now less than $150 per month  in regions.
In  Papua New Guinea the average is $198 per month.
You can't / _{(couldn't in 2022)} buy dollars in Russia or even withdraw it from your Russian account,- they gave you Russian ruble instead.
<sub>-Likely nobody buys ruble in the free world, so official artificial dollar  exchange value is another   Russian trick.( Legally in 2022 you couldn't buy dollars and its black market price was x4 )
In 2022 Russians  were volunteering to kill Ukrainians  in Russian army for  ~$2,614.4  per month,
but in reality they payed them in Rubles and  in average often ~1/3th of that.
In reality according to Russian law if  Russian terrorist killer  dead body was not found  and transported to Russia there was no compensation to the family member 
or money   was stolen  by corrupted system . The total compensation averaged or equals - cost of Russian car Lada ( ~47%  of price of Yugo car)

opinion expressed is my own and it can be adjusted/ corrected :)</sub>
Wesley

Quote from: BorisKrabow on March 27, 2023, 04:39:15 AM
     Okay let's get to work .  I see an interesting technology here and I think that it is necessary to open a new topic in the appropriate section.  It would be a pity if she was forgotten. Perhaps there are great prospects here.

Interesting Gear setup but didnt see enough info or claims of energy in or out

Has anyone watched all of these ?

Whats his prime mover input force?

I think most are intelligent enough to know where the Russian propaganda is coming from...

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/397672-trump-effect-republican-support-for-russia-has-doubled/
Trump effect: Republican support for Russia has doubled

QuoteThe results of a recent Gallup Poll make the same point. Since 2014, the percentage of Republicans who consider Russia an ally has almost doubled from 22 percent to 40 percent. Democrats still have no illusions about Russian intentions since there are few Democrats now (28 percent) or four years ago (25 percent) who believe the Russians are our buddies.

Trump was Putin's sock puppet ever since the infamous pee tapes came to light. Supposedly trump was taped with a bunch of Russian hookers in a Russian hotel room which would destroy his image and his marriage. So Russia probably made a deal with trump to bankroll and promote him for president or destroy him.

QuoteThe crossover point according to Gallup when more Republicans thought Russia was friend rather than foe came in March 2015. I don't think it was a coincidence that was about the time Trump became a star on the GOP presidential stage and started his campaign to make his BFF, Vlad, a saint.

What better way to destroy the U.S. from within than to install trump as a communist puppet declaring himself the supreme leader just like his buddy Putin. If trump gets elected again I suspect they would destroy the U.S. and we could see all three super powers (China, Russia, U.S.) as communist countries.

The only question which remains is if the republicans are so brain washed and deluded they would sell out there own country and there freedom just to blindly follow trump. I think they might for a few reasons...
1)The democrats don't worship Biden and most don't even like him that much other than as the elected leader. Biden's just another president like all who came before him.

2)The republicans have declared trump there god and they demand absolute loyalty not to the government but to him alone. They hang on his every word and parrot everything he says like cult followers. As trump implied he could grope countless women or shoot anyone in cold blood in the middle of the street (just like in Russia) and they would still elect him.

https://baptistnews.com/article/how-donald-trump-became-god/
How Donald Trump became God

https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/news/2021/04/did-evangelicals-make-trump-their-messiah
Did Evangelicals Make Trump Their Messiah?

So there is a chance the U.S. could become another communist church state not ruled by laws but pseudo-religion and the word of trump there new god. Over time they could even outlaw all religion other than the chosen one just like china and north korea. It's mind numbing...

AC

Seems people have a short memory just what Democrats did to sell out this country.

I got news for ya, "THEIR ALL BAD!"

another one...  the duel.... It might be a time to make some changes I assume.
Consider  yourself informed.. 
Any opinion is appreciated if voiced, but I don't think - barking at American values is  very informative.
Ask for an assistance of better translator.  Find the difference between an opinion and barking.!!!
By the way in Russia  only few guys per million speak some English or they "have" good  English .... sometimes.
If you want to say something than respond to my previous comment.
Our president  is not  Putin - the criminal kidnapper of over 16000 Ukrainian children hunted by 123 countries
of the world  in order to be delivered
to The Court in Hague.
And Our President was elected  by, and represents American nation  not only Democratic Party...
Got it now?
Yes?
No?
You don't know yet?

Wesley

I disrespected no one, I just informed all gov is bad not one specific person that all.

Quote from: endlessoceans on March 27, 2023, 06:12:44 PM
Interesting Gear setup but didnt see enough info or claims of energy in or out

Has anyone watched all of these ?

Whats his prime mover input force?

Elliptical planetary gear of sorts.


Closest we have as an example would be the top that spins when you push down on the plunger
Take it apart and the gear inside is close to what hes using

If you're interested in getting outside the "OU Forum" bubble for 20 minutes or so
here's a good discussion featuring Jeffery Sachs (he doesn't need any introduction)

"End of unipolarity w/ Jeffrey Sachs"
https://rokfin.com/post/129599/End-of-unipolarity-w-Jeffrey-Sachs-Alexander-Mercouris-and-Glenn-Diesen

BTW, there's lots of other good discussions out there as well by a lot of
talented people. But, just IMHO!

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 27, 2023, 08:54:08 PM
Seems people have a short memory just what Democrats did to sell out this country.

I got news for ya, "THEIR ALL BAD!"

"Divide' et Impera"


The entire system is designed to pit us against each other.
In truth it doesnt matter which side wins. We all lose

Very True!  :(
Solar; Do you have to join to read? Or is it just my Browser?

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 27, 2023, 11:10:51 PM
Very True!  :(
Solar; Do you have to join to read? Or is it just my Browser?

Not sure - works here.

You can try this: - just search for "theduran" (no quotes) - and the episode with
Jeffery Sachs (it was recent a day ago now). The Duran is on all platforms, YT etc. 

Hey, check out Alex - he walks around Cypress or Athens for a half hour or so
every day and does a news summary; pretty good and informative IMHO (some of
his clown worlds are quite good!).

Quote from: IMIGHTKNOW on March 27, 2023, 08:54:08 PM
Seems people have a short memory just what Democrats did to sell out this country.

It hasn't been sold out.

Predictably, a trump "intellectual giant".

Quote from: stivep on March 27, 2023, 04:43:31 PM
grammatical errors:
Donbass, invastion,  nazis, ideologicals, appartments, defeaiting, Normady

I started to make cuts, but gave up.
Here is a point.
I speak Russian better than most of Russians in regions.I was never in Russian Federation.
I learned Russian here from two Russian scientists - my employees.
I have friends in Russia and  I respect  many Russians  very much.

Suppose I talk to a Russian troll _{or some  Russian troll (despite of his nationality  it could be Serbian too.)}
I'm asking him how low he can fall deep into filthy dumpster?
For how much he sales himself , prostituting  his own value without a valid  work license._{( Nevada  is different)?}
I spend  for a  Starbucks coffee  more than  he makes per day of work.
A  picture of a troll - brainwashed, and feared  looking at some protestors jailed for holding empty piece of paper in
his/her  hands - it is a form of a protest  in Russia the country  of terror.
Due to  the work of a Russian troll innocent people get arrested for 7 or 11 years in jail  just for commenting
in social platform or  YouTube video, marking  "like" or even "smile" icon under someone comment  .
Troll also fabricates non existing evidence, of bend reality of lies. 

Dear Cloxxki all of it what you wrote about me and Ukraine is a lie. All 100%
Tell me  Cloxxki for how much I can buy  a Russian troll?
Is it a value of two Starbucks coffee in New York or  5 of them per day?
How much less a Russian troll makes  per  day comparing to a prostitute in your country  for a full service?
Would you work for me, if I pay you  two times (twice) as much as Russian troll a student makes per week?
I can really afford  it even if  it  cost me more than a hotdog  and french fries  in a fast food in NY.
Average Russian earning per month is  now less than $150 per month  in regions.
In  Papua New Guinea the average is $198 per month.
You can't / _{(couldn't in 2022)} buy dollars in Russia or even withdraw it from your Russian account,- they gave you Russian ruble instead.
<sub>-Likely nobody buys ruble in the free world, so official artificial dollar  exchange value is another   Russian trick.( Legally in 2022 you couldn't buy dollars and its black market price was x4 )
In 2022 Russians  were volunteering to kill Ukrainians  in Russian army for  ~$2,614.4  per month,
but in reality they payed them in Rubles and  in average often ~1/3th of that.
In reality according to Russian law if  Russian terrorist killer  dead body was not found  and transported to Russia there was no compensation to the family member 
or money   was stolen  by corrupted system . The total compensation averaged or equals - cost of Russian car Lada ( ~47%  of price of Yugo car)

opinion expressed is my own and it can be adjusted/ corrected :)</sub>
Wesley

Your name is probably not Wesley, as you put it under everything?
I'm not even going to read all that.

You probably mean well, but I doubt you are doing well.
I'll just send you love and imagine you in a better place that you are now.
So many negative vibes pouring off your words, and the best you can do it just refer to another man's words as lies. Like a true scientist, I guess.

People who express themselves so negatively to strangers, show the effects of their belief systems and inner struggles so publicly, tend to be doing pretty badly in real life. I sympathize with that, but if you want me to apologize for enjoying my life better than you do yours, go at it, wait!

There comes a point where a human gets addicted to negativity. When others don't shout or  swear at them, they'll just start the shouting match. There's always a way to start an argument. Call someone a liar, a spy, whatever. It doesn't matter much, what matters is that you get your daily shot of negativity, isn't it, fake Wesley?
Well, you're out of luck, because I'm on a trip of joy. No alcohol, no drugs, not even more women than usually, but I'm actually loving life right now. Being above average in height and intellect, I've never been without detractors, even online. Small minded people feel like I'm not in their tribe, because I do this thing called comparing notes, in stead of spitting at another man's notes. If I had to recruit an army of haters, I could get a good way just with my own. It's sad that people become haters when the other person keeps his cool better, or can't be swayed by the talking heads on the TV. Am I the enemy, or the you from the future?

I send you love, not-Wesley, keep the hate coming if you have to. I can handle it, but won't promise to read much of it.
You may like this or hate this, but there are indeed more interesting things in life than to be your re-educator.
Where were you when I first joined this forum, anyway? I don't recall your hate fits. Were you less of a sensitive little establishment minion, or just doing better with a good woman, cool job and cool friends? Or perhaps my sensitivity to exernal hate is nearly complete, and you're just super forgettable. I bet, if you'd stop right now, I might not remember your silly posts a years from now. With a gun to my head, I don't even know half the letters in your nickname.
You may well be an amazing soul, but to have nice experiences in life (big revelation here) it helps to mostly show your good sides, and keep on developing them. The impression you're making with your hate fits ain't great. Nevermind my opinion as you current day target, but other members are actually texting me to make me aware of you little episodes and what they think of it.
They're bigger people than me, in that they don't engage you when you get this way. Perhaps they know you times when you were kind of OK? I didn't get that part, you just went straight to the hate trip with me, didn't give me any time to get fond of whatever good traits you might have. I'd have to guess, but the best guess is that they are in there somewhere. Forgive me to direct my actual attention more to people who can find it in their hearts to treat me like a normal person. Odd huh, people treat me nicely and I treat them nicely in return? Why'd we like niceties more than a good psising war?
Thanks for regarding me a worthy adversary, and taking me on with my actual weapon of choice: words. But this duel, is just boring to me, as you appear to be your own referee.
I'm not going to spell check this, because I just don't care, it's just you, and you give me a lot of reason to do my utmost. I'll just send my love and be on my way. Have a better day than yesterday or whenever you last came after me. Can't be awesome to be you right now, and I sympathize. You're going to need to stop picking targets, though. One day someone is going to do to you what you are tempting them to.

Perhaps it's time you apologize to Stefan for whatever we need to call your posts all over his virtual lab. And I suggest you clean up after yourself as well. Some of it may end up on your gravestone. We write out own legacies, but we don't get to do the final edits...

I think i will close this thread now, so the flamewars do not start again and we will all
concentrate again now on free energy research...please..
Thanks for understanding...
Regards, Stefan. ( Admin)