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Title: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 02, 2023, 03:30:07 PM
Hi to all,
I am looking for any input from experts here before I start a build. I have read everything that I can find but still have questions.

Which end would be the output?
Can a sine wave be used to power it?
Why would a ferrite core be used?
Any precautions to take? i.e. is it dangerous?

I am thinking about using copper foil instead of wire, any comments?

Thanks

Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: Dog-One on February 04, 2023, 11:53:25 AM
I would ignore much of the data found on the Internet and start with this:

http://www.treurniet.ca/Smith/SmithCoil.htm (http://www.treurniet.ca/Smith/SmithCoil.htm)

The above link is about as close to the original source for this device that I'm aware of.

Once you have a device built and have been able to replicate what Smith documented,
then it's up to you what to use it for.
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 04, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
Quote from: ragged on February 02, 2023, 03:30:07 PM
Hi to all,
I am looking for any input from experts here before I start a build. I have read everything that I can find but still have questions.

Which end would be the output?
Can a sine wave be used to power it?
Why would a ferrite core be used?
Any precautions to take? i.e. is it dangerous?

I am thinking about using copper foil instead of wire, any comments?

Thanks
Yesterday while going through my old hard drive I have found a lot of information about Lithuania Experiment
but I didn't see your question yet so now it is a need to spend a lot of time to get back to it.
________________________________________

Quote from: Dog-One on February 04, 2023, 11:53:25 AM
I would ignore much of the data found on the Internet and start with this:
http://www.treurniet.ca/Smith/SmithCoil.htm (http://www.treurniet.ca/Smith/SmithCoil.htm)
The above link is about as close to the original source for this device that I'm aware of.
Once you have a device built and have been able to replicate what Smith documented,
then it's up to you what to use it for.

Unfortunately all of it is garbage for me.
I had precise criticism to be posted and I decided not to...

All other links are also garbage for me:
http://www.treurniet.ca/Smith/SmithCoil.htm (http://www.treurniet.ca/Smith/SmithCoil.htm)
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Doc/Magnetism/Tempic_Field.htm (http://www.resonantfractals.org/Doc/Magnetism/Tempic_Field.htm)
https://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3318 (https://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3318)
http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/newsci.htm)
http://www.resonantfractals.org/Doc/Magnetism/EarthGrid.htm (http://www.resonantfractals.org/Doc/Magnetism/EarthGrid.htm)

so whenever you see words like "light" written with capital L - "Light" it indicates likely spiritualism.
Flying sources, antigravity, particle physics with protons neutrons electrons in such context..tempic fields, "tensor" beam.
Telepathy, connection  of our receptors into Caduceus, and all other mentioned there  factors/
it is for me a piece of garbage... You're wasting your time.

Example : "tensor" beam.  :
Statement there is: spirit mediums.
https://rense.com/general70/tass.htm (https://rense.com/general70/tass.htm)
Conclusion:
from physics standpoint, there is no recognition of spirit, nor angels and nor God, and we are animals.
so for physics they don't exist. by that no spiritual phenomena can take place.
it is just a story, that is not verifiable both: facts base and authenticity of the people involved.
motivation: we don't know if Jesus was an alcoholic, but definitely he wanted to make already drunk crowd more drunk
so he performed the trick known as miracle of turning water into wine.( not verifiable this time, and not reproducible anymore and any longer)
- so by that we may say that: we don't know what is the motivation of all of those writers in those links I attached.
Physicist would ask how many percent of alcohol was in this  wine. Chemist would be interested if it was wine from grape.
And some others would ask why Jesus was  so so...cheap and didn't give them Russian vodka..what's a big deal for God son right?


However 20 feet of plastic tubing  with the ferrite cores having permeability the highest possible
and Caduceus on it  sounds interesting but then you would have no way
to tune  reversed Bell like waveform so the only tool left will be to  sweep it with 
generator to find  frequency response,
But than what?
How you are going to determine  the "magic" frequency these sources are talking about.  :)

All of those articles are likely written by one person  or people fallowing the concept, - intelligent having good English skills
using proper descriptors as if he was one of the professionals in the field of electromagnetism.
All of that makes you believe that  the elegant garbage is not much of a garbage ...

If you don't want to waste your time there is a simple advice:
most of the time when I'm talking about something I do include links
to phenomena in question I'm talking about,
In all of those articles called by me "garbage" there is a statement,
no explanation of how and why it must be this way not the other.
No links, other than similar garbage,


Opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 05, 2023, 09:30:38 AM
To be clear what I am looking for is a new way to produce power at low cost and high efficiency (90% +).
One idea is a cogless generator that I have an idea for. Need to build a proof of concept at this point.
Still looking at any and all other ideas. The caduceus seemed interesting so I posted here to get input from experts.

Thanks for replies.

Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 02:18:01 PM
because caduceus coil is  in the title of this topic.
Bell like waveform reversed. It means it is growing up.
And if it was not interrupted  it would grow to infinity.

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: partzman on February 05, 2023, 02:47:28 PM
Wesley,

Your previous post shows a bell shaped voltage(?) curve on a scope along with a pix of counter wound coils on a common axis connected in the center as a tap.  Are we to assume these two have any connection as the coil leads have never been soldered and the coil is definitely not a caduceus winding?

Regards,
Pm
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 02:58:03 PM
PART#1

I'm trying to first copy original pictures from my file in the old  hard drive  but I have  plenty or more than plenty of it.
These are  self explanatory as Antanas was making accurate documentation. 
So I'm not going to explanation  now.
I don't know how to fit it here  without making copy from the   original one.
and original pictures are to big for posting
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 03:53:50 PM
PART#2
Caduceus
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 04:57:39 PM
PART#3
Caduceus second coil  the pick up coil
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 05:16:50 PM
PART#4
Caduceus second coil  and the pick up coil assembly
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 05:27:57 PM
PART#5
Caduceus second coil  and the pick up coil assembly+ ferrite
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2023, 06:11:10 PM
Making this pictures in smaller format  copying them and posting took me  entire  day.
As much as I'd like  to help  I can't spend days on posting..
I'll try to  post more but for more accurate information  you need to ask member of this forum  T1000 Arunas from England  for help.
It was his project not mine.
He is the mastermind behind it.

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 08:06:12 AM
caduceus coil#2 with assembly and ferrite rod made from ferrite rings into rod.
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 08:34:22 AM
Lithuania experiment  had few independently provided experiments:
Lithuania experiment   part  using yoke

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 09:34:57 AM
 This is a set of pictures from  assembly  winded on ferrite core
but not that from yoke.- and I'm not sure if it was ferrite core - however if it  was  ferrite core than  it was likely
lower than Yoke  in permeability   ferrite core.
It was winded and tested prior  to me  arriving to  Lithuania and  driving to Lithuania Kaunas Lab
if we could call it Laboratory , Well in that Lithuanian  reality from 2011  it was a lab.

The ferrite ring} I'm not sure if it was ferrite  or  it was  circular core winded on  core from metal ribbon
Used as the iron core of the transformer, cold-rolled silicon steel sheets of 0.5mm and 0.35mm thickness are generally selected.
used  for regular transformers. That  metal is exactly the same material used  for transformer plates. that are already insulated
by desire and conceptually non conductive across assembly.( the silicone plates_

So I didn't see that assembly and didn't test this assembly, but  that concept of winding I assume  was used while
I was in Lithuania but winded on  ferrite from yoke.
So I'm posting it now for your record and than I  will post  original pictures with yoke.
the pictures were given to me by Antannas who was a person making documentary ,  recording every  move of us as if he
was paid Russian spy.
The only place I was not assisted but Antannas was there too waiting for me , 
was Post Russian toilet in Kaunas Lithuania that multi floor  building was equipped with..
Few words about building.
this was the kind of advanced technology used by Russians in the time from second world war  till 1991 when  Lithuania
was freed from Russian occupation after collapse of soviet union.
Imagine long corridor (~500 feet) in multi floor building.
having one toilet per floor. (look at the picture below)

opinion expressed is my own

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 10:35:53 AM
Please look at my precious post  before  reading this one.

    Re: caduceus coil building and testing (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/msg573814/#msg573814)  « Reply #14 on: Today at 03:34:57 PM »

_____________________________________________________________________

The  Yoke had  very  much uncommon   chemical components in that  yoke.
It is considered by me as  dangerous  although  we didn't have tools  of analysis of that structure at the test site.
The side effects :
Everyone from 6 experimenters including me but possibly excluding Antannas who was   documenting  the event was affected.
Aidas the young guy start to lose hair and experiencing   terrible headaches.
Gintas was the oldest of us. the same  but little lesser,  he didn't lose hair.

I didn't start to have health problems immediately.

As Aidas mentioned that he  had previously problems while we tested  halogen  lamp acting as a load, where I was instructing Aidas over the internet
video   conference what to do ...
The positive effect of that   made me to go to Lithuania to see it  by myself.
At the very first minutes  in Kaunas  Test room Aidas  wanted to stop testing  and I was  afraid that my trip
all expenses and discomfort will be wasted. So I placed my head nest to the yoke under test and said that  this is only Aidas imagination.
I recall I felt hot, yes hot  right after placing my head  next to  yoke under  the test (in about 7-10 minutes  after ..)

I had terrible  headaches and I was losing balance for a about 3 months prolonging to 5-6 months  after the Lithuania Experiment.
So  I was able to walk, but changing position of the head made me to lose balance or when bending or  trying to touch my feet with fingers I was falling down..
Well not so much  falling down but I was looking for something vertical  next to me  in case..
Changing position from vertical to horizontal was a challenge, this ended definitively with free fall  .
Wesley



Than in 1960 Russians  were trying to add to the powder  something more.
How ferrite cores are made today .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_core (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_core)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXLWu6jSHQU
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXLWu6jSHQU)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU&t=2s
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU&t=2s)https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nhugwooN0g (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nhugwooN0g)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XaJUkJLfg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/prRx-Gp-lU0
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XaJUkJLfg)
this one  compacting metal powder shows exactly the same process as is used in cintered ferrites
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QZThsst0RIg

QuoteFerrite is a polycrystal, sintered material with high electrical resistivity. The high resistance of ferrite makes eddy current losses extremely
low at high frequencies. Therefore, unlike other magnetic components, ferrite can be used at considerably high frequencies. Manganese-
zinc(Mn-Zn) ferrites can be used at frequencies up to several megahertz.
The basic ferrite materials are obtained in an extremely high purity. These materials are mixed, calcined, milled, granulated, formed by
pressing, and sintered at a temperature of 1000°C to 1400°C, then machined. The electrical and mechanical properties of a particular
ferrite material are obtained by the material formulation and the processing applied. Extraordinary exacting process controls are required
to assure the high uniformity of product for which TDK ferrites are well known. Through the above processes, ferrite materials can be
optimized for specific applications.
https://product.tdk.com/en/system/files?file=dam/doc/product/ferrite/ferrite/ferrite-core/catalog/ferrite_summary_en.pdf (https://product.tdk.com/en/system/files?file=dam/doc/product/ferrite/ferrite/ferrite-core/catalog/ferrite_summary_en.pdf)

You are taking  fine  iron  powder, wet it with water, place that into huge ceramic  horizonally rotating cylinders  and let it rust for  24 hours
while rotating. Than you soak the water , let it dry . The rust is preventing  the powder  particles  from conducting.
Than you place that powder in the form giving it  desire  shape ,  you add some  bonding compound and  press it  with
hydraulic press 500kg pressure . Than you  have very fragile form  called green stage ferrite.
Than you place it into  furnace heating it till it particles bonds into solid stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQNW4ZTsg2w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQNW4ZTsg2w)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHATg9iRaQ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHATg9iRaQ4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qTlaD5y6XA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qTlaD5y6XA)
https://youtu.be/ADrOaRnXO80?t=95

opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 10:49:34 AM
Addition:
before you look at this picture go to
Quote from: stivep on February 05, 2023, 02:58:03 PM
PART#1
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 12:06:30 PM
Quote from: stivep on February 06, 2023, 10:35:53 AM
Please look at my precious post  before  reading this one.

    Re: caduceus coil building and testing (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/msg573814/#msg573814)  « Reply #14 on: Today at 03:34:57 PM »


I add some more pictures and picture with original schematic

_____________________________________________________________________


I'm repeating one  of these pictures  here . For the rest go to the link form above.

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 01:04:05 PM
It is this yoke  experiment that made  all my trip to Lithuania beneficial knowledge wise
In this part of experiment we got subsequently  600W out of two 1 Wat generators and than 1kW  dissipated on the load halogen lightbulb.
I witnessed only 600W. In the time of testing 1kW load  I fall asleep.

I'm looking at number of views under  my photos.
It looks like it is not much of interest as of yet
should I stop it now?
you don't want it ... you  don't have it .. simple  like that.
I'm working on it  second day now... my time is more important to me...
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 06, 2023, 04:29:10 PM
Thank you so much Wesley.

You have been more generous than I could have hoped for.

PLEASE PLEASE add more if you can find the time and patience.

Even though there are not many views I am the one who needs whatever information that you can provide.

Much gratitude.
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 05:02:37 PM
 Lithuania experiment original yoke from Russian Tv Rubin  experiment from 2011

Here is the catch or inconsistency:
SWR (Standing Wave ratio meter) SWR-1180P - Radio, 1.7-150 MHz,   shown  on the pictures  at the bottom of this comment
operates  and frequency region inconsistent with  conditions of the experiment for one of generators.
https://www.elfa.se/en/radio-150-mhz-team-swr-1180p/p/11075761 (https://www.elfa.se/en/radio-150-mhz-team-swr-1180p/p/11075761)
- the frequency set on one generator was ~50Hz and  SWR operates from 1.7MHz up to 150MHz
- the second Generator was suppose to  be sent at around 220kHz but we used 1.2-1.8 MHz.
  So this SWR couldn't operate at 220kHz.
I'm not sure now what was  the exact frequency  of the test but I'm sure I have it on hundreds of videos I have on that old  Hard Drive
https://www.elfa.se/en/radio-150-mhz-team-swr-1180p/p/11075761 (https://www.elfa.se/en/radio-150-mhz-team-swr-1180p/p/11075761)

But Guintas  used it anyway .

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 06:06:21 PM
 Lithuania experiment yoke assembly step by step one more time
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 06, 2023, 06:24:22 PM
 Because copper foil  is at 90  degrees to the  winding in one half of the yoke than we suspected NMR taking place
in process of transmutation of the ferrite , when energy was released , and  that energy  was than converted to energy powering the lightbulb
Eventually we ruined  quite few ferrites, due to vibration. The high  acoustical  frequency sound was heard .
So the two generators 1W each was only   acting like a key:

In classical physics if we use analogy:We can compare it to valve on the  pipe with water  that is connected to the river.
To open the valve there is  very little energy needed.
And that role was carrying on set of two generators
Each one was  around 1W if i remember it  properly.
one  of them was delivering around 50Hz the other was at the frequency of resonance of the assembly.
However Arunas T-1000 tend to call  it ferroresonance frequency- I'm not sure of how much it is correct  descriptor.
https://electricalbaba.com/what-is-ferroresonance/#:~:text=Ferroresonance (https://electricalbaba.com/what-is-ferroresonance/#:~:text=Ferroresonance)
I'm quite precise  describing  physical phenomena taking place but we didn't have tools to assign  them properly.
We have heard the noise,  felt the vibration of the ferrite core and experienced  severe side effects.
Definitely we got   at output   consequently  600W dissipated at load and than 1kW dissipated at load .
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 07, 2023, 10:17:56 AM
Summary so far:
So we have two  caduceus coil assembly  in Lithuania experiment.
Both  do the same job.
- one is winded  the way that  it  not allow  to disassemble it or change alignment  of the components
but you can still place inside of it ferrite as deep as you need it.
  picture :   https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189605/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189605/)
  picture :   https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189600/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189600/)
Notice: when you press on these links  using Firefox browser -  that particular picture will be downloaded
instead of displayed so you need to open download to see them.


- second one is made the way that it allows to  change the  pickup coil for another one with different 
  number of winds or  change caduceus  for  winded  with different geometry and number of cross points
  that was one part of experiment.
  picture : https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189597/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189597/)
Notice: when you press on these links  using Firefox browser -  that particular picture will be downloaded
instead of displayed so you need to open download to see them.



________________________________________________________________

The second part of experiment was :  experiment with yoke  where   pickup coil  was made out of
two independent windings winded on one half of the yoke   one on the top of the other .
   picture :    https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189637/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189637/)

Than two ends of  each individual winding were connected together  leaving two reminding ends  unconnected yet acting as an  output.
that  by itself made   that half of the  yoke similar to pickup coil   that was used for the first  part of the test  with caduceus.
That means that winding  on this particular half of the  yoke  was alike the winding   on the pickup coil( outer coil)  on caduceus.
   picture :   https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189629/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189629/)

Notice: when you press on these links  using Firefox browser -  that particular picture will be downloaded
instead of displayed so you need to open download to see them.


-moreover the schematic shown   on the picture of  ferrite ring and electronics on page #1
Re: caduceus coil building and testing (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/msg573814/#msg573814)« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2023, 03:34:57 PM »
and page #2
Re: caduceus coil building and testing (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/msg573823/#msg573823)« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2023, 06:06:30 PM »
applies to  experiment with  yoke with some minor changes.

The main difference between:
-the two is that Yoke  had two half parts.
    picture :    https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189633/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189633/)

-the ferrite ring was  not made from two halves
   picture :     https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189615/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189615/)   
   picture :     https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189628/ (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/dlattach/attach/189628/)

Notice: when you press on these links  using Firefox browser -  that particular picture will be downloaded
instead of displayed so you need to open download to see them.



There is another factor  important .
The yoke  halves  were  placed together but  allows to introduce  small gap between the halves from one side
or both sides.
-sometime that gap was regulated by placing in between  one or few pieces of  paper. to keep the space in controlled thickness.
similar technique was used commercially in flyback transformers in every TV using CRT tube called also cathode ray tube.
https://www.electronicdesign.com/content/article/21186397/why-have-an-air-gap
Quotehttps://www.electronicdesign.com/markets/energy/article/21761319/mind-the-gap-and-improve-your-lowpower-flyback-transformer-design
The flyback transformer is very different from a signal transformer, and not making the distinction can lead to poor performance.
Actually, the flyback transformer is a coupled inductor and not a transformer in the true sense.
QuoteIn the signal transformer, current flows in the primary and secondary windings at the same time, inversely proportional to the turns ratio of the windings.
In a flyback transformer, current flow is restricted to one winding at a time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXVmWB5P-iA
https://www.wellpcb.com/ferrite-core-transformer.html
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode-ray_tube)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode-ray_tube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode-ray_tube)
often associated with word "kinescope" in Eastern Europe  however history of that word was little different.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope)

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 07, 2023, 11:46:49 AM
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Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 07, 2023, 12:20:16 PM
Interesting is that amount of people ready to experiment is very low here:
I was looking at my post
Re: caduceus coil building and testing (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/msg573816/#msg573816) « Reply #15 on: February 06, 2023, 04:35:53 PM »
where I specifically say :
QuotePlease look at my precious post  before  reading this one.  Re: caduceus coil building and testing (https://overunity.com/19358/caduceus-coil-building-and-testing/msg573814/#msg573814)  « Reply #14 on: Today at 03:34:57 PM »
and  I see that only 20 people  viewed it.So the question is :
Who I'm dedicating my third day of  documenting  Lithuania Experiment to?
thinking about :
-cost of travel,
- fight  with custom in Lithuania  still under Russian  influence in  2011 when they saw weird to them looking content of the suitcase .
- time spend there  in that post soviet environment for an American from USA right after I returned from Tbilisi Georgia when
  I was poisoned  by some Russians along with Tariel Kapanadze.

The two trips together cost me several thousands  dollars than with paying the member of assassin crew to find more about these Russians.
The doubled  flight tickets because  some of that airport personnel in Prague was bribed by them.
Anyone of  you would go to such trip knowing that  he may not return  in vertical position from it?

You expecting   knowledge and experience and real results from both the  Tariel Kapanadze
Tbilisi Georgia Europe  trip and from Kaunas  Lithuania trip.
and at best for free and delivered in front of your  nose  and at best today.
for what?
for some of some of your laziness?
Is this what  Energy for Free  community is about?

___________________________________________________
the same story was  with my two sections
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557086/#msg557086 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557086/#msg557086)
here you'll find step by step instruction too just in different page.
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560164/#msg560164 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560164/#msg560164)
the second section  is entirely in Russian  language
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559589/#msg559589 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559589/#msg559589)

Well actually  third one in addition to these two.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg569853/#msg569853 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg569853/#msg569853)


Lets assume some things:
You  guys definitely  have value as a people and value  as a professionals in your field.
You may be valuable  members of  society.
But I'm not good in cooking and some of you may  not be good too.
You are here not to fulfill your laziness, it is particular forum  having particular direction 
and expectation of contributors is that  they will be  heard and analyzed, often scrutinized .. ..
-perfectly OK with me.

________________________________________________

The  benefit of contributor is his/her/its personal satisfaction from  his activity and contribution as it is voluntary and charge free.
We need also to understand personality of contributor as we don't want to spend money for some  e.g Russian Troll contributing Trash
as they do everyday  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency)

If you know that you  dealing with  a given theoretical contributor 
everything is simple:
- no overunity exist   or is possible. energy can only be converted  from one form to the other.
- superstition is a BS.and has no basis.- no bad luck or good luck exist  as everything is random and winning lotto  is  random event too.
- Telepathy is   nonsense
- no anti-gravity  is possible
- no travel back in time exist or is possible
- no ether eather exist
- no alchemy of turning one metal to  other is possible due to atomic structure of strong  force
- No God, Angels,  Miracles, ghosts, Satan, exist, no Creation was ever  done..
- we all are animals according to Darwin.

- physics and other  sciences   are  based on models,  and that is why
  we made in last 200 years  progress more than we made  in over million of years of our evolution as Homo animals.
- We dominated the world  and soon  we  may overpopulate the planet destroying natural habitat of other animals.
- Contribution  to this forum is voluntary and is feared by  its impact on humanity  and overpopulation speed if given in working form  for free to it.
- emotion is what makes me write and act and by that  just  to fulfill my  emotional needs in given time
I may do it!!!! despite of consequences.
  But I rather prefer  someone else  to  act this way as there is no  the "gifted one" who  is thinking and can deliver.
  The only difference  is that  People  wants to make money on their  inventions  especially in this field , and that trap rather makes them dead, or paid for silence, or
  pushed to silence  or  wealthy while  likely working for some military. 

opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: r2fpl on February 07, 2023, 01:43:11 PM
Darwin's evolution stopped after his death  ;D
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 07, 2023, 02:11:05 PM
Quote from: r2fpl on February 07, 2023, 01:43:11 PM
Darwin's evolution stopped after his death  ;D
In essence, sarcasm is easy (as is most anger, criticism, and meanness) while true, harmless wit takes talent.
A question I think you will not answer, not because you are Russian but because you  have no gods to  answer is:
Why?
Why Darwin's evolution stopped after his death?
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: Collapsingfield on February 07, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
Dear Wesley, I have practical problem at testing. On the yoke all of the coils are in the uH range (below 100uH). By normal signalgenerator and in general, the 50Hz range as input is very strange because of the very low impedance there.
Could you give us some advice based on your experience?
Regards
Collapsingfield
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 07, 2023, 06:15:26 PM
Quote from: Collapsingfield on February 07, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
input is very strange because of the very low impedance there.
Collapsingfield
I  have problem  in  understanding- your problem with  application of your yoke.

I understand that :
- you have single coil winded on the yoke - means having two  wire ends and it  has small inductance.
  the permeability of the  ferrite  used  in this yoke is not known
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_(electromagnetism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_(electromagnetism))
_________________________________________________________________
So I respond with some basic knowledge.


Difference between Inductive Reactance and Inductance.

An inductor: is a static two-terminal electrical component that stores energy in a magnetic field when electric current flows through it.
e.g: coil, chokes, or reactor.
it is physical component you can hold in your hand.
/difference-between-inductive-reactance-and-inductance/ (https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-inductive-reactance-and-inductance/#:~:text=Difference%20between%20Inductive%20Reactance%20and%20Inductance%20%20,unit%20is%20Henry.%20%201%20more%20rows%20)
Inductive Reactance (XL) : is the opposition offered by the inductor in an AC circuit (https://byjus.com/physics/ac-voltage-inductor/) to the flow of ac current.
it is a process that exist in the inductor that depends from: e.g  frequency
https://byjus.com/jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance/ (https://byjus.com/jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance/)

Now we adding ferrite to the inductor:
QuoteWhile using ferrite cores in inductors, we consider the following things-
High saturation
High impedance
Fewer losses
Stability in temperature
Properties of the material
ferrite-core-inductor-losses-characteristics-and-applications
(https://www.cosmoferrites.com/news-events/ferrite-core-inductor-losses-characteristics-and-applications#:~:text=Inductors%20that%20are%20manufactured%20with%20a%20ferrite%20core,because%20of%20the%20electrical%20conductivity%20of%20the%20metal.)
some time ago in the past we used  silicone alloy metal plates like here for low frequencies
also called the Ferromagnetic metal core (https://www.wellpcb.com/metal-core-pcbs.html) for high energy efficient transformer. Ferrite transformer for switching power supply.
selective focus, shallow depth of field. https://www.wellpcb.com/ferrite-core-transformer.html (https://www.wellpcb.com/ferrite-core-transformer.html)
So you don't have to use  the sintered ferrite cores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(magnet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_(magnet))
You can use plates.
Note:some discussion is here although  not  very scientific:
ferrite-or-iron-powder-how-do-i-tell-what-an-unknown-core-is-made-of (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/70604/ferrite-or-iron-powder-how-do-i-tell-what-an-unknown-core-is-made-of#:~:text=Magnetically%20soft%20ferrites%2C%20as%20used%20for%20today%27s%20RF,together%20using%20epoxy%20resin%20or%20another%20polymeric%20glue.)
and is based on 13 years old data.

So in regards  to frequency:
Inductors are just a coil of wire - in a DC circuit they do nothing. well in most  situations as sometime we deal with AC having offset  DC and so on.
In an AC circuit the inductor acts like a resistor, the resistance changes with the frequency.
That resistance is now reactive and is called inductive reactance that adds into pure resistivity of the wire.
Capacitors are the opposite. In a DC circuit they block current. In an AC circuit the "resistance"( capacitive reactance) decreases with frequency.
When we add ferrite core  to the inductor than The use of the magnetic material ferrite core allows for more frequencies with minimal eddy current losses.
but  particular type of ferrite  material can only handle limited frequencies

In regards to yoke :
By adding air gaps to these ferrite shapes, the cores can be used efficiently while avoiding saturation.
so in my  previous  comment  I  presented the two halves of ferrite Yoke with  air gap regulated by piece of paper.

Most of that ferrite Yoke  assembly is used  in form of transformer and should be seen this way.
Because reactance is  measured in Ohms it adds to real resistance of wire  even if it is  reactive "resistance"
That is why if you have AC relay and connect it to DC you may damage the winding or blow the circuit  breaker as in DC  you have no  reactance  whatsoever
and you dealing with pure  resistance of the wire .

self-inductance
is associated with the magnetic field produced by a current, any configuration of conductors
possesses self-inductance. For example, besides the wire loop, a long, straight wire has self-inductance, as does a coaxial cable. 
So imagine  straight piece of wire  50cm long horizontally placed on the table or vertically suspended
That piece  of wire not connected to anything yet  is a perfect 1/4 wave antenna .
A ham radio operator at 144MHz=2m band  transmitting  signal can see that in Near Field  this wire is resonating
and having voltage on it.
Depends from  how much power you transmitting and how close to the real antenna of the Transmitter at 2m band is that piece of wire
(- it means how good coupling this  coincidental  form of that particular transformer type has)
you may be surprised that  suddenly  you have 2kW of power on that piece of wire  
( if your transmitter gives  more than that)
______________________________________________________________________________


Quote from: Collapsingfield on February 07, 2023, 04:47:40 PM
input is very strange because of the very low impedance there.
Collapsingfield
Why do we use Ferrite Core Inductor? 
QuoteUsing Ferrite cores in inductors helps to improve the performance of the inductors by
providing high permeability to the coil.
It leads to an increase in their magnetic field and inductance. Usually, the permeability level in the ferrite core inductors ranges
between 1400 to 15,000, depending on the type of ferrite material used.
Thus, ferrite core inductors boast of high inductance  as compared to other inductors with air cores.
https://www.cosmoferrites.com/news-events/ferrite-core-inductor-losses-characteristics-and-applications (https://www.cosmoferrites.com/news-events/ferrite-core-inductor-losses-characteristics-and-applications)

QuoteThe effects of capacitance and inductance are generally most significant at high frequencies.
Usually input impedances should be
high, at least ten times the output impedance
of the circuit (or component) supplying a signal to the input.
https://electronicsclub.info/impedance.htm (https://electronicsclub.info/impedance.htm#:~:text=The%20effects%20of%20capacitance%20and%20inductance%20are%20generally,%28or%20component%29%20supplying%20a%20signal%20to%20the%20input.)
I hope it helps.
Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: Kator01 on February 07, 2023, 06:42:41 PM
Wesley,


what happens if two magnetic fields meet at 90 Degree within matter ?


Here you can read about a technique (1998) developed by German Frauenhofer Institute for non-destructive screening process of ferromagnetic materials


https://www.ndt.net/article/0398/huebsch/hueb.htm (https://www.ndt.net/article/0398/huebsch/hueb.htm)


If this page appears in german language - should not happen- please click on upper-left button "English"


With the second experiment you obviously generated ultrasound-shear-waves which rattle the nucleus.  :o ...and shocks you got


Is there a link you can provide with the configuration of feeding the yoke-coils ( schematic ) ?


I am very grateful for your extensive description you present here...after all these years


Mike
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 07, 2023, 10:42:19 PM
Quote from: Kator01 on February 07, 2023, 06:42:41 PM
Wesley,
what happens if two magnetic fields meet at 90 Degree within matter ?
Here you can read about a technique (1998) developed by German Frauenhofer Institute for non-destructive screening process of ferromagnetic materials
https://www.ndt.net/article/0398/huebsch/hueb.htm (https://www.ndt.net/article/0398/huebsch/hueb.htm)
If this page appears in german language - should not happen- please click on upper-left button "English"
With the second experiment you obviously generated ultrasound-shear-waves which rattle the nucleus.  :o ...and shocks you got
Is there a link you can provide with the configuration of feeding the yoke-coils ( schematic ) ?
I am very grateful for your extensive description you present here...after all these years
Mike
Thank you for your input, very interesting article.
There is  some difference  as we didn't have  permanent magnets there
but I'm working on the evaluation of  that article  in regards to Lithuania Experiment
  please look at this video in the meantime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QzjL_zzkTg

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: color on February 08, 2023, 12:06:50 AM
Perhaps the reason Wesley gives meaning to the Lithuanian experiment is because he is afraid of KGB agents in the former Soviet Union. ;D ;D

My guess is likely to fail. ::) ::)
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: r2fpl on February 08, 2023, 02:46:34 AM
Quote from: stivep on February 07, 2023, 02:11:05 PM

Why?
Why Darwin's evolution stopped after his death?
Wesley

Because he was the only one who said that man came from monkeys. This may be true if you consider that human DNA is in every living creature.
If evolution were true of Darwin, apes should be humans. Even a rat. That's why I said Evolution died with Darwin because that was his opinion.

To anyone who says there is no God because they haven't seen him, I answer:
Put your head in the microwave and turn it on. You think you'll see radio waves? No, but you will definitely feel it. That's what God shows us. Wind, Water, Sun, etc.. life.

You easily believe that God does not exist, why not vice versa?
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: AlienGrey on February 08, 2023, 03:29:05 AM
Quote from: r2fpl on February 08, 2023, 02:46:34 AM
Because he was the only one who said that man came from monkeys. This may be true if you consider that human DNA is in every living creature.
If evolution were true of Darwin, apes should be humans. Even a rat. That's why I said Evolution died with Darwin because that was his opinion.

To anyone who says there is no God because they haven't seen him, I answer:
Put your head in the microwave and turn it on. You think you'll see radio waves? No, but you will definitely feel it. That's what God shows us. Wind, Water, Sun, etc.. life.

You easily believe that God does not exist, why not vice versa?
You like to Monkey around and it was 'primates'   and there is no missing link has ever been found and with structures built by intelligent beings that relate to magnetic pole shifting historic date referencing appears to go back hundreds of thousands of years, thus making Darwins ideas a fraud.

The other God thing thing your referring to if you bother to look it up means a 'demonic being', on the other hand perhaps you mean  YHWH but what makes you think its a man or actually has any  orientation. and the other thing is God or  YHWH might not be the  actually the creator of all things ?

Back in the 60s the US produced some near infrared glasses for night vision in the Vietnam war, when helicopter gun crews wore them flying beings were observed who clearly eye balled the gun ship crews who reportedly shot at them but to no effect the devices clearly opened a view into another dimension.

Sil
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: AlienGrey on February 08, 2023, 03:44:37 AM
Re the capacious coil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk33JJH_0q0

Didn't Tesla use a pancake coil set up ?

Sil
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: r2fpl on February 08, 2023, 06:18:10 AM
Quote from: AlienGrey on February 08, 2023, 03:29:05 AM
You like to Monkey around and it was 'primates'   and there is no missing link has ever been found and with structures built by intelligent beings that relate to magnetic pole shifting historic date referencing appears to go back hundreds of thousands of years, thus making Darwins ideas a fraud.

The other God thing thing your referring to if you bother to look it up means a 'demonic being', on the other hand perhaps you mean  YHWH but what makes you think its a man or actually has any  orientation. and the other thing is God or  YHWH might not be the  actually the creator of all things ?

Back in the 60s the US produced some near infrared glasses for night vision in the Vietnam war, when helicopter gun crews wore them flying beings were observed who clearly eye balled the gun ship crews who reportedly shot at them but to no effect the devices clearly opened a view into another dimension.

Sil

You can buy these glasses and see that you can't see anything. No green men.
God is not a demon as you say. A demon is a "creature" created by God, so there can't be a demon before. Of course it depends what you believe. Some believed in the sun, others in stone and others in God, but everyone wants to believe in something. Even you believe in aliens. What's the difference in understanding? I can see God everywhere in every living organism and every thing on earth and in the cosmos. Green men so far are only in comics and fantasies of people or in the photoshop technique.
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: stivep on February 08, 2023, 06:40:12 AM
Quote from: AlienGrey on February 08, 2023, 03:44:37 AM
Re the capacious coil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk33JJH_0q0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk33JJH_0q0)

Didn't Tesla use a pancake coil set up ?

Sil
for your entertainment:
1. it was  woopy 11 years ago right after my return from Lithuania Experiment
He mentioned me with caduceus in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocPYYEv37g


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ocPYYEv37g)2.  this one shows me on the video but doesn't show my head..
This is  original  YouTube channel  of T-1000  Arunas from England the mastermind of the project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzYFG8T7InY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzYFG8T7InY)
https://www.youtube.com/@T1000LTU/videos


(https://www.youtube.com/@T1000LTU/videos)
3. this is
TinselKoala (https://www.youtube.com/@TinselKoala)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5OY5OBoJU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5OY5OBoJU)
He is still active but  unfortunately  not in  our forum.
-this is his channel videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@TinselKoala/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@TinselKoala/videos)


4. Video from Lithuania experiment  with me and posted by me 11 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0R4Pinl5rE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0R4Pinl5rE)

Wesley
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: worldcup on February 08, 2023, 11:41:27 PM
@thread starter , i already have one thread dedicated to this topic which i oened recently.
Let's keep one topic, so no mix up and confusion.

Lithuania OU Experiment - Wesley's Theory + schematic+ explanation+step by step

https://overunity.com/19335/lithuania-ou-experiment-wesleys-theory-schematic-explanationstep-by-step/

@stivep, your precious time is respected.

@stivep, could you please respond to this post of mine, i don't want to blindly build and buy something.
I need to spend funds calculated for buying stuff.
Once i build this stuff, i will lay out all plans including video series on how to build one.

https://overunity.com/19335/lithuania-ou-experiment-wesleys-theory-schematic-explanationstep-by-step/msg573502/#msg573502

Regards and respect to wesley.
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: AlienGrey on February 09, 2023, 12:35:14 AM
Quote from: r2fpl on February 08, 2023, 06:18:10 AM
You can buy these glasses and see that you can't see anything. No green men.
God is not a demon as you say. A demon is a "creature" created by God, so there can't be a demon before. Of course it depends what you believe. Some believed in the sun, others in stone and others in God, but everyone wants to believe in something. Even you believe in aliens. What's the difference in understanding? I can see God everywhere in every living organism and every thing on earth and in the cosmos. Green men so far are only in comics and fantasies of people or in the photoshop technique.

red-night-vision-goggles
No your wrong your talking about a 'different beast' your talking about some thing else!
you havent done your home work  'again'! and not pie in the sky ! and only a hand full were made by hand for military tests known as night vision goggles and you don't know the freq that problem appears at! (IR band width) later with drawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnWkYAP8KIs

https://m.facebook.com/nightgod333/videos/red-night-vision-goggles-drive-vietnam-soldiers-mad-and-aura-glasses-created-wit/5238521086196092/

https://smallarmsreview.com/night-vision-in-vietnam/

Sil
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 18, 2023, 08:19:46 AM
No one interested in Caduceus?
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 24, 2023, 01:15:29 PM
Would there be more interest if I called it a TENSOR COIL?
Or a Wilbert Smith Coil?
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: kolbacict on February 24, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: ragged on February 24, 2023, 01:15:29 PM
Would there be more interest if I called it a TENSOR COIL?
Or a Wilbert Smith Coil?
Che diavolo è questo?
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 24, 2023, 02:23:05 PM
No mystery just 3 names for the same COIL!
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: worldcup on February 25, 2023, 01:12:41 AM
Quote from: ragged on February 24, 2023, 02:23:05 PM
No mystery just 3 names for the same COIL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0551SCnqBoA  :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZGIDyE2Q_s

is it?

Regards
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 25, 2023, 08:42:49 AM
this  is it
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 25, 2023, 08:49:23 AM
see this page

http://www.newphysics.se/archives/keelynet/energy/caduceus.txt
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 26, 2023, 03:50:08 PM
I don't know where to post this?
My compass has reversed polarity.
How can this be possible?

Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: dsquared18 on February 26, 2023, 03:58:06 PM
Large source of EM radiation nearby?  ;D
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: ragged on February 26, 2023, 04:10:55 PM
Hi
I live out in the sticks. There is  nothing around here but trees. Cell service is hard to get.
Title: Re: caduceus coil building and testing
Post by: bistander on February 26, 2023, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: ragged on February 26, 2023, 03:50:08 PM
I don't know where to post this?
My compass has reversed polarity.
How can this be possible?

Hi ragged,

The Earth's poles have finally flipped.

Just kidding.

Your compass needle, or pointer, has been remagnetized in the opposite direction. The pointer is a ferromagnetic material (iron, steel, magnetite) which has retentivity, or property of residual magnetism, meaning once subjected to a magnetic field its domains will align with that direction of external field and to some degree remain in that aligned position even after the external field is removed, thus becoming a permanent magnet in itself. Well, permanent until demagnetized. Demagnetization can occur due to several conditions in including opposite external field of sufficient strength, alternating external field, age, mechanical shock, Curie temperature, etc. Once demagnetized, it can be easily magnetized in the opposite direction. I'll attach a typical hysteresis curve from this article: https://experimentationlab.berkeley.edu/hysteresis

The most likely scenario is that your compass was forced quickly into an external field, like near a strong magnet or wire/coil with high DC, having the pointer in the opposite position and that external field reorienting the magnetic domains before the inertia of the pointer (and dampening friction) allowed the pointer to swing 180°. I've seen in happen often. You can correct the pointer magnetic direction with this method also.

Hope that helps.
bi