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Title: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 08, 2023, 06:03:00 PM
Hi all, been working on some oscillators and was thinking about trying the capacitor dump method again and a member on the forum inspired me to experiment some more.
Testing different capacity capacitors, to see which gives the best charging and least input and keeping a watch for any extra charging effects.
Also think the partnered output coil tech. could be useful here, as the more the output is loaded with that tech., the input power decreases, that would be something to test later on.
At the moment, i am using a pancake coil, speaker wire joule/meissner type oscillator, to charge the dump capacitor and a 555 timer and mosfet to dump the capacitor.
So far, the best charging, seems to happening with larger value capacitors, though it is said, that a low uF cap can work well, if the right kind of sharp capacitor dump and frequency is created.
Tried 5600uF-70volt low esr capacitor and now testing a 1.5 farad car audio cap i had laying around.
The car audio capacitor is charging the heck out of the 12volt 5ah sla battery at around 3hz pulse dump frequency.
Will continue to share further experiments.
All comments welcome.
peace love light  :)

Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: erfandl on February 09, 2023, 01:45:12 AM
Hi Skywatcher, nice to see you working on this project.
A few years ago I designed a cap dump circuit with a microcontroller (AVR) and got decent results. Using the Joule Thief circuit, I charged a 470 microfarad 35V capacitor, then the microcontroller as a capacitor dump gate activated the MOSFET base when the 35V capacitor was charged and discharged the energy stored in the capacitor into a battery. Now I want to redesign the same circuit without using a microcontroller. I think that using the thyristor, which was already mentioned by the user joellagace, will give better results. I waiting for your test result.
Good luck.  :)
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 09, 2023, 05:40:27 AM
The problem with using a SCR if you want to call it a problem  is this cap dump is somewhat limited in speed, you can hear the clicks it makes of a few per second in my videos. If your high voltage backEMF source gets "too" hot the SCR simply does not go back into an "off" mode and you get no on off dumps.

On the bright side, SCR seems to offer the best to save power, my back emf generator with cap dump takes around 60ma of current to operate in this mode.

Always looking for new methods, I'm kind of broke right now. I got to wait about a month before I make a new order, Somethings to order are some higher voltage SDRs and loads of them this time! And more of those little square wave generators, they seem to only need milliwatts to operate. And some MOSFETS to experiment with new switching circuits. NEONS and ZENER diodes of various values.

Looking forward to those spring experiments!

take care.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: ramset on February 09, 2023, 10:29:22 AM
Joel
Do you have a PayPal you can link to ?
Or some way to get funds ?( would Amazon gift card work ?)


Not good to have such a dedicated open source builder sidelined
Do to need for parts
Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 09, 2023, 11:15:10 AM
With inflation no one has any money these days its not just me. I got a bunch of stuff for sale like ham transmitters and such on ebay right now and nothing these days is making fast sales, People here in north America are making the decision if they can have eggs for breakfast or not. And that is regular people. It is the worst time to ask for money. I did have setup some pages like gofundme in the past. Nothing of that really worked and I don't like asking people for money.

But yeah the paypal thing is an idea, I tried it in the past as well. Like on my facebook and twitter and such.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: floodrod on February 09, 2023, 11:41:17 AM
I can throw you a few bucks Joel. I also appreciate your work.  Just make sure to post us schematics of your builds.
  ;)   Message me your info
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: floodrod on February 09, 2023, 11:41:39 AM
Duplicate post....
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: ramset on February 09, 2023, 11:50:58 AM
Cadman had mentioned the Amazon gift cards work for PayPal?
Or I have just sent numbers off back of card to builders if they use Amazon for purchase ?


It's a problem we need to sort here in open source community!
It is a gift which gives both ways ... persons who don't have your equipment or ability
To experiment..Can help support  those who do !


And also feel included in efforts to help make world a better place !


Respectfully
Chet
Ps
This should be available to all open source experimenters , even lending equipment
For a time ?
Or donating to builders who have history of sharing open source!


Tremendous potential here !
Sorry skywatcher for interrupting
( perhaps you have experimental needs too ?)
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 09, 2023, 11:56:09 AM
I don't like asking for flat out money. Never have, It's just the nature of the topic you know. Just go on youtube and search for something like "free energy" and the first 100 pages will be scam videos with remarkably 200k viewers,  It's all for monetization clicks and views,  You know my favorite scam video that keeps getting shared all the time with a circle of 9 volt batteries and the light not "connected" to anything in the middle of the circle just lights up like magic LMAO. But the point is its those videos that make it front page and social networks like youtube are not doing anything for the legitimate of these claims. Because they make so much money off the monetization of these 200k viewed video scams. But during the COVID days the blocked any DR with valid PHD for even speaking an "apposing" view. Interesting... Anyhow. The nature of asking for money for such research yells "Scam" all over in red and I just don't want to associate with that or disappoint someone if I get a schematic wrong or something.

What I have asked in the past from my fellow ham friends in person at the clubs and such is to give me all their junk parts. Old tv parts, microwaves, that stash of random semiconductors your never going to use again, That spool of wire collecting dust in the corner or your garage. I got much more luck finding what I need this way then flat out asking for money.

Thanks for the offers But that's just not the vibe im going for here in these forums and my presence on youtube, But if you got spare/junk parts to send me. Now I may want to work with that! :)

Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 09, 2023, 07:37:55 PM
Well since I burned out all my SCRs for now here is how I'm experimenting  with the cap dump method still, while I wait to be able to make an order of new parts including some mosfets.

I'm using the Android tablet and a NPN transistor connected to sound output.  As as switching for the the cap dump. Hey got to use what ever is at hand right!

https://youtu.be/9Yj2XjLpsrc
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: dujie on February 09, 2023, 10:09:27 PM
Do you have a PayPal you can link to ?
Or some way to get funds ?( would Amazon gift card work ?)
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Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: erfandl on February 10, 2023, 12:51:36 AM
Quote from: joellagace on February 09, 2023, 07:37:55 PM
Well since I burned out all my SCRs for now here is how I'm experimenting  with the cap dump method still, while I wait to be able to make an order of new parts including some mosfets.

I'm using the Android tablet and a NPN transistor connected to sound output.  As as switching for the the cap dump. Hey got to use what ever is at hand right!

https://youtu.be/9Yj2XjLpsrc
thanks for sharing. just a question, is it possible to make an SCR from pairs of PNP and NPN power transistor ?
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 10, 2023, 04:54:06 PM

Hi all, Hi joellagace, thanks for being here and sharing your thoughts about these experiments.

Hi erfandl, good to see you're still experimenting.
Yes, i always share everything i observe with my tests.
At the moment, the large 1.5 farad car audio capacitor is too large for the output of this particular oscillator, the voltage seems to only get to around 1 volt over the load battery, before it dumps, though does still charge decent.
So far though, the 71volt-5600uF electrolytic, low esr capacitor, is packing the most punch.
It climbs to around 15.5 volts or around 2.5 volts over charge battery voltage, before cap dumping and the oscillator charging the capacitor, is using around 2.5 watts input.
Hi ramset, all benevolent comments are welcome, it's fine and i feel these experiments
have great potential also, as i have read of others similar experiments that claimed success.


At the moment, i am using a STW20NM60 Mosfet, 600volt rating, 80 amps pulsed rating, 11ns fall time.
So this mosfet, is able to dump the capacitor charge very quickly and it's a salavaged part,
don't remember what i salvaged it from though.
Not sure this 12volt-5ah sealed lead acid is the best battery for testing.
I have heard that better results are obtained from liquid form electrolyte,
instead of the absorbent material used in SLA batteries.
Still testing to see which size capacitor is the most effective or which will
manifest observable extra charging effects.
It may be, that a lower size capacitor, along with higher voltage, may be needed to manifest
the novel charging effects.
Since that also allows the capacitor to dump its charge, even faster.
There may be a threshold, where once the capacitor dump is below a certain duty cycle on time
and of a sufficient abruptness of discharge, we may start to see novel charging effects.
Will continue to experiment.
peace love light
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 17, 2023, 05:49:45 PM
Hi all, I have been trying many different things and keeping notes of all the tests.
At the moment, i am testing two 1 farad-20 volt max., car audio capacitors in series for the capacitor dump.
That is around 500,000 uF - 40 volt capacitor.
And although the voltage rise on the capacitor, above that of the charge battery voltage is only around 200-400 millivolts (difficult to see a good reading on meter), it really packs a punch.
When the capacitor dumps, the voltage jumps up 200-300 millivolts on the 12 volt charge battery.
Another good thing, these car audio capacitors are low esr and can push that small voltage differential into a decent amperage pulse.
Will continue the experiments.
All comments welcome.
peace love light :)
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 17, 2023, 06:12:04 PM
Thanks, This gives me good ideas on what I might want to try next, Still waiting on some ebay sales in order to get more money to buy those mosfets. And other parts  ;D
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: ovun987 on February 17, 2023, 07:23:13 PM
Quote from: joellagace on February 17, 2023, 06:12:04 PM
Thanks, This gives me good ideas on what I might want to try next, Still waiting on some ebay sales in order to get more money to buy those mosfets. And other parts  ;D

What exact parts do you want to buy?

Link to what you're wanting and some of us will get you what you need

I appreciate your line of experimentation and want to encourage your progress
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 18, 2023, 02:24:43 AM
Well here goes for those who are interested and following  ;D I'm not lying about the ebay sales thing to make it sound good, If anyone of you are into ham radio stuff send me a private message, You might like what I have for sale, I'm not going to start listing my sales on these forums as the topic is not appropriate here., So just send me a private if you like,. So yeah what I'm looking for on my list:

(2)ISD1820 Voice Recording Recorder Playback Module https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000117283510.html?spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.36.785eN8NxN8Nxnz&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%242.78%21%241.89%21%21%21%21%21%402101d1bb16719949476468476e2570%2110000000309510908%21btf&_t=pvid%3A1b580833-92fd-4682-8a1b-363304d68076&afTraceInfo=4000117283510__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1671994947&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

I want to experiment with recording my custom waveform frequencies into this chip, saving it and playing it back on loop mode, instead of a speaker it drives a transistor or mosfet. As a switch. I could make something with a 555 or similar but with the Parkinsons my hands shake too much for working with little circuit boards and a solder station. So this is my quick work around instead of using a tablet or cell phones sound output.


(5)BTA40-700B BTA40 High Power Bidirectional Thyristor   https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004108996863.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.27.3a3b4000yGugDj&algo_pvid=1696398a-e071-4ddc-9c92-12f8a895d932&algo_exp_id=1696398a-e071-4ddc-9c92-12f8a895d932-13&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000028061037277%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%211.68%211.6%21%21%21%21%21%40211bd8be16767031249093072d0763%2112000028061037277%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=lEshdGQVccRP

Some high power Triacs. Hopefully these wont pop as much with the cap dumps.

(2) https://www.ebay.com/itm/144130345062?var=443434748235

Simple low voltage Square wave generator module. I use these in my various switching circuits. Saves me from having to build my own module for this feature.

(2) Neon bulb ne-2h 6x18 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32346512958.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.31.55b4796aqUgn3c&algo_pvid=dbbfaf1e-d755-4635-ab34-88ddaf662ce6&algo_exp_id=dbbfaf1e-d755-4635-ab34-88ddaf662ce6-15&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2251666719826%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%213.17%213.17%21%21%21%21%21%4021021d7b16767037183641096d074c%2151666719826%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=V7D3F3kL2Mx7

Neon lamps for various triggers.


(2) 1N5362B (5W 28V) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32828310431.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.106c6eddcB37sD&algo_pvid=998880a6-b3a0-4bc3-af54-5935b445fffc&algo_exp_id=998880a6-b3a0-4bc3-af54-5935b445fffc-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2265010561482%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%213.89%213.7%21%21%21%21%21%40211be59e16767040827416663d0736%2165010561482%21sea%21CA%210&curPageLogUid=uiG4THde2zMC

Zener didoes I would like to experiment with to replace those neon triggers.

-various high power mosfets and transistors. Various values, I been given many examples from recommendations.  Vast options and generics here. some folks may already have a "junk" stash laying around! So if someone where to donate me any of these I'd take what ever as I can most likely use it as long as it handles high power so no little 2N2222A hehe.

-Conductive paint. Lots of it. Enough to paint thousands of sheets of paper to build my high voltage cells that will feed a spark gap/cap dump assembly and charge batteries,  Stick foil on the other side.


So I understand this is a long list. I don't expect anyone to get me any of this. Just that it's been asked a few times now so here it is.

Thanks for the info. links are just examples. I'm sure there are better sources out there!
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 19, 2023, 05:31:10 AM
Some help that someone may be able to help me with, I'm trying to extend the cap dump method without needing an inverter if I want to "self" operate. Right now if you eliminate the inverter you can't get the back end to charge to front end, the inverter acts as the isolator between the two as well. It's just the inverter takes a few watts of idle power from the internal circuitry and what not. I would like to eliminate that extra load if I could find a better way to isolate the two? any ideas?

John Bedini used opto-isolators As I can see I'm just not sure how I'd incorporate that with my existing circuits, Just pondering. Since we are talking about cap dumps.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: Thaelin on February 19, 2023, 05:36:00 AM
  Have you considered boost converters. There is a fully isolated version. Bit spendy and have different voltage out settings.
thay

Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 19, 2023, 07:05:48 AM
Thanks for the info, I have a few of those modules near by, Never thought of taking advantage of the isolating feature of the boost converter, I will look into that for sure.

Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: Thaelin on February 19, 2023, 07:25:14 AM
Not all are true isolated. Most are ground shared. The ones I got from Amzon did share gnd.
thay

Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: endlessoceans on February 19, 2023, 11:25:49 PM
Quote from: joellagace on February 19, 2023, 07:05:48 AM
Thanks for the info, I have a few of those modules near by, Never thought of taking advantage of the isolating feature of the boost converter, I will look into that for sure.

Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.

Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.
[/quote]

Hey Joel

Hope you are well

I think John realised that what he had was around 98 or 99% efficient.  After years of claiming OU he would be a fool to suddenly change his tune, very much like vegetarians that claim awesome health but then after 2 years of eating too clean, they realize they have nutrient deficiencies an\d have to go back to some animal products to get whats needed.

Look....I always play devils advocate and look fair on both sides.  Im a genuine researcher and engineer.  99% efficiency IS amazing and looks OU.  Hell its better than any tech thats currently out there.  But the world and money doesnt work that way.  Most appliances are super crap and wasteful and the energy companies love that.  They dont want to rebuild everything and have us use less power.

Then theres the University stale boffins that refuse to believe that there can be something better.  Fact is there are ways to draw energy from elsewhere but the system is dead against it for now.  So what happened with Rick and John is they realized they didnt have enough and needed to shoot for the stars- which they NEVER ever were going to do with rotating battery banks.  Instead they just went to energy conferences and talked pseudo nonsense and took handouts.  Whats worse they purposely posted rubbish schematics that kept people away from what they had.  If they had just shared then smarter minds combined would have perhaps helped out.....but hey after that nobody would come to their energy conferences anymore either would they!!    Lindemann was useless also and he perpetuated the lie.

  They also took payments for machines they never delivered.   +Fraudsters
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 20, 2023, 12:50:31 AM
Hi all, i am testing some lower microfarad capacitors, i have a few actual photo flash
caps taken from those throw away cameras.
Testing a 120uF-330volt rubycon photo flash capacitor.
I have the 555 timer set to discharge at a typical machine gun frequency.
A small thumping or tapping can be heard from the capacitor itself, as it discharges.
The capacitor is discharging at around 18.5 volts for every pulse, into a 12 volt sla battery.


It is charging the battery very effectively.
I think it's more like a jack hammer effect, it may not blast the battery with one big impulse.
Though it takes many small, rapid impulses and it can get closer to the super charging effect,
that people like Nikola Tesla observed, when using short sharp capacitor impulses.
Will continue the experiments.
peace love light :)
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: erfandl on February 20, 2023, 04:47:32 AM
Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on February 20, 2023, 12:50:31 AM
Hi all, i am testing some lower microfarad capacitors, i have a few actual photo flash
caps taken from those throw away cameras.
Testing a 120uF-330volt rubycon photo flash capacitor.
I have the 555 timer set to discharge at a typical machine gun frequency.
A small thumping or tapping can be heard from the capacitor itself, as it discharges.
The capacitor is discharging at around 18.5 volts for every pulse, into a 12 volt sla battery.


It is charging the battery very effectively.
I think it's more like a jack hammer effect, it may not blast the battery with one big impulse.
Though it takes many small, rapid impulses and it can get closer to the super charging effect,
that people like Nikola Tesla observed, when using short sharp capacitor impulses.
Will continue the experiments.
peace love light :)
Hi SkyWatcher, Can you put a schematic of the cap dump circuit?
thanks.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 20, 2023, 06:22:02 AM
Quote from: SkyWatcher123 on February 20, 2023, 12:50:31 AM
It is charging the battery very effectively.
I think it's more like a jack hammer effect, it may not blast the battery with one big impulse.
Though it takes many small, rapid impulses and it can get closer to the super charging effect,
that people like Nikola Tesla observed, when using short sharp capacitor impulses.
Will continue the experiments.
peace love light :)

I think this is the way to go is with the cap dump. It's not so much the size of backEMF coil or what ever, People in my comments section on youtube seem to ask/care more about the backEMF side of the process, And to me that's the least important as I'm not feeding the "radiant" directly into batteries. I just use it to quickly charge capacitors at higher voltages, Heck I can do the same thing with a simple joule thief oscillator if I had no other choice. Or just find a 24 vdc power supply and do direct charging to that cap etc.... We can use what ever method we feel is right to charge the cap. The important thing is how and at what frequency it gets discharged. So building cap dump controller circuits is the important thing to look into right now. As I see batteries do a "Funny" thing with the cap dump. Worth while exploring. The SCR thing blow up often so the MOSFET and possibly using low current solid state relays is a good alternative. Thanks for all the info.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: Dave Wing on February 20, 2023, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: endlessoceans on February 19, 2023, 11:25:49 PM
Why I'm so anal over the cap dump method is simply because a video from dr peter Lindemann on Aaron Murakami book site states that john Bedini was only able to get perpetual motion or near if you want to consider years of operation from the same battery bank. Was using cap dump methods, He admits on the site from one of the conference video's that John was only able to produce these effects with cap dumps, But later on when it came to charging a separate industrial battery bank of like 48 volts, It was much better to use the radiant directly. But this was not a setup for "Self running" Just charging an isolated bank.  It seems from the various insinuations around John did that way back in the day with the original gravity wheel and got "bored", As in the perpetual stuff. Personally I think the idea of a motor self operating and able to do moderate work at the same time (the cromley or how ever its spelt motor) for example is a better deal for the general user, Where you have this thing that self runs and you get to use a few watts to drive a small lamp without draining the battery etc.. vs trying to charge industrial 48 volt banks. Not everyone has that setup or is it practical or portable for real world use. I wonder why john stepped away from what I think is the much better achievements.


Hey Joel

Hope you are well

I think John realised that what he had was around 98 or 99% efficient.  After years of claiming OU he would be a fool to suddenly change his tune, very much like vegetarians that claim awesome health but then after 2 years of eating too clean, they realize they have nutrient deficiencies an\d have to go back to some animal products to get whats needed.

Look....I always play devils advocate and look fair on both sides.  Im a genuine researcher and engineer.  99% efficiency IS amazing and looks OU.  Hell its better than any tech thats currently out there.  But the world and money doesnt work that way.  Most appliances are super crap and wasteful and the energy companies love that.  They dont want to rebuild everything and have us use less power.

Then theres the University stale boffins that refuse to believe that there can be something better.  Fact is there are ways to draw energy from elsewhere but the system is dead against it for now.  So what happened with Rick and John is they realized they didnt have enough and needed to shoot for the stars- which they NEVER ever were going to do with rotating battery banks.  Instead they just went to energy conferences and talked pseudo nonsense and took handouts.  Whats worse they purposely posted rubbish schematics that kept people away from what they had.  If they had just shared then smarter minds combined would have perhaps helped out.....but hey after that nobody would come to their energy conferences anymore either would they!!    Lindemann was useless also and he perpetuated the lie.

  They also took payments for machines they never delivered.   +Fraudsters


They were not fraudsters what they did was play the game by giving little bits of information here and there and then watch to see who could take those bits and turn them into a working machine that would run it's self plus produce power. John's ferris wheel was his final example of all his work, it was a big example of a free energy machine that Bearden talked about in video nine of Energy from the Vacuum series at the 23:32 mark. Not many know what John was displaying in that machine that had the three inductors. John also talks about it on Bill Jenkins old radio shows, he tells Bill he has the three coil system in use way back then. The zero force motor also produces a similar result as the ferris wheel.

Erfinder who frequented many of these forums back in the day shared quite a bit of insight into his research into Johns Ferris wheel and zero force motor. These machines are very low drag in operation.

What many miss is that a pulse motor that harnesses the coil collapse will never be more out than in until you install extra low drag generating coils that are used to put the machine over the top. Peter Lindemann also has demonstrated such a machine it had 4 low drag generating coils and two power coils , it also had the three battery system battery swapper attached to it. As I see it you do not need the three battery system to produce the results of more out than in. Peter could have added more low drag generating coils until he had more out than in. As Peter said that machine he made was flea power, it was gutless for lack of better wording.

It is the principle of the devices which should be looked into, John and Peter were trying to tell you with out telling you. It may have been a game to see who could figure it out, but when you really look at it who out there in the free energy community has offered you more than them? It takes real work and perseverance to succeed in this field. They were not going to just hand it all over to everyone for free.

Paul Babcock, Jim Murray, Toby Grotz etc. also have revealed excellent information that will help the serious experimenter. I believe every pulse driven motor must be looked at as what it is and that is they are motor generators that do return the feedback to the front end battery and also to the secondary battery or capacitor. It is not over unity until you add in extra low drag generating coils. All the greats had motor coils and feed back coils (generating coils) on their machines, the two go hand in hand.

Dave Wing

Both John and Peter claimed the SG was upto 95% electrically efficient with 28% mechanical output if you built it right. I never have heard them say anything more than this, except for the Ferris Wheel machine which I was told indirectly it was 350watts over unity.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 22, 2023, 11:08:27 AM
Hi all, Hi erfandl, i will get to work on drawing the capacitor dump circuit i am using.
Hi joellagace, good thoughts you are sharing, i appreciate the work you are doing.
I think the good effects in these capacitor dump devices, are caused by things similar
or equal to, the electret effect.
An electret effect, is seen in the dump capacitor, due to the impulsing, and is most likely
also occurring within the charge battery.
With proper tuning (ultra sharp impulses) and the lowest possible load resistance, (it is
why Bedini used those
gigantic telephone batteries, because they had ultra low resistance, as do ultra capacitors)
super charging effects can happen.
peace love light :)
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 22, 2023, 03:28:03 PM
Hi all, here is the mosfet cap dump circuit, at the moment.
peace love light


https://i.postimg.cc/hjDgvw73/Mosfet-Capacitor-Dump-Circuit1.png
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on February 22, 2023, 09:35:57 PM
Here is another method I found works well for charging capacitors if you have the luck of being able to put up some sort of outside rx antenna,

Here it is working: https://youtu.be/aE5mmG5JKTM

Here I have a simple AC voltage multiplier circuit. These are typically used to step up low AC voltages to high voltage spark output.

I decided to use the concept with very small value capacitors and small ultra fast switching RF diodes to multiply the 0.5 volts or so stray ambient voltages that come from natural and man made sources.  These energy fields may be laying around should you be located anywhere half civilized. even a town.

I'm able to get over 30 volts DC for free from the nearby ambient with a simple outdoor ham radio antenna. Using one antenna ground and the other for receive.

Using voltage multiplier this way does not give that much current. How ever, We can use this method to quickly charge capacitors at high voltages, similar to how I do with back emf, however this method proves that when you have no other source of input power available, no batteries, no chemicals, no sun, no water no wind etc. We can borrow it from the ambient! with the addition of various cap dump circuits, dump the high voltage charge from the capacitor into a set of charging batteries and charge for free! COP = infinite as you don't have to provide a penny of your money to get your output charge. This works rain or shine. Day and night.

Just thought I'd share an alternative method to accumulate a charge.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on February 26, 2023, 09:14:17 PM
Hi all, Hi joellagace, thanks for the informative post.

I will have to ponder that idea of energy collection, though i think
that method has been used in large scale ways, in a previous era.

Would be good for the people to know, that this technology is still
in use today, though guised from the people.

As far as these mosfet capacitor dump experiments, I've decided
to try and rejuvenate a 12 volt lawn mower battery, 7 years old.
Already seeing positive results, though it will take many hours of
charge/discharge cycles.
I've gone back to the 5600uF low esr capacitor, this capacitor is the
perfect sweet spot.
Using 19.5 volts input to the oscillator, which helps charge the
capacitor higher
The capacitor is being dumped once every second and is building a
capacitor voltage of around 27 volts per capacitor discharge.
This is having a strong effect on the battery, will be keeping track of
battery improvements over time.


All benevolent comments welcome.
peace love light


Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on March 04, 2023, 06:47:10 PM
Hi all, after listening to joellagace, speak about the importance of short on times and
you are absolutely correct joell, this needs to be focused on, to gain greater efficiency.


I tried another 555 timer to pulse the coil, though it seemed to be interfering with the
other 555 timer for the capacitor dump circuit.


So i went with the Stingo circuit, which always gives the lowest possible on time pulse
and gives a very sharp and abrupt pulse as well.
NPN combo. The Stingo circuit is charging the dump capacitor to similar voltages, using far less input power and is not interfering with the 555 timer cap dump circuit.
I see no issue, charging a large battery with this setup, even at power levels as you have shown joellagace, i think you said 9 volts at 60 milliamps or .54 watts.
At the moment, with the components selected, this oscillator is using 1.7 watts, though it is really hammering this old 12 volt lawn mower battery, so i figure, at a 1/2 watt input, it would still charge just fine and maybe give extra charging effects.
Experiments shall continue.
All comments of a constructive nature welcome
peace love light :)
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: joellagace on March 04, 2023, 06:55:44 PM
I'm glad the information I shared has been useful to some, I will soon resume the cap dump methods, I really think this is one method to explore in better details. And your right some people have reported to me in private, on here in public and as comments on some of my videos some good results with the concepts as well.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on March 06, 2023, 12:30:09 PM
Hi all, Hi joellagace, yes, the capacitor dump method seems very effective and is needed for these coil collapse discharge methods, otherwise, the battery cannot power normal loads properly.
I found some category 5e ethernet cable in the attic, which has 8 individual solid core 24awg. insulated wires inside.
So i connected all 8 wires as you have done and the coil sits at .9 ohms, which is ideal for the stingo oscillator i have heard.
I think the ethernet cable is around 200-250 feet in length, though not sure.
This setup seems very efficient at the moment.
Picking up a new 12 volt, liquid electrolyte lead acid battery today for further experimenting, as the other lawn mower batteries i had, were too damaged.
This setup is charging a 470uF low esr capacitor for the cap dump circuit at around 40 volts per discharge.
Will be posting the new circuit sometime today, after i finish drawing it and include a picture of the setup so far.
peace love light
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: Thaelin on March 06, 2023, 01:50:49 PM
For those peeps that decide to use flooded wet cell lawn tractor batts to run test with, they are inferior junk to start with. Not meant to be used hard. They fall apart in the inside easy. I went through 8 of them before I realized the problem. Go with reliable wet cell types such as golf cart style. They are made for rugged use. Also, batts for semi truck use are well suited too.
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on March 06, 2023, 03:30:55 PM
Hi all, Hi Thaelin, all i have access to at the moment, will not be pulling a
load beyond C/20 rating and not draining it very deep, so should make it last longer.
Hi folks, here is the full circuitry I am using at the moment.
Comments welcome
peace love light

https://postimg.cc/bZNRJ4bP
Title: Re: Mosfet Capacitor Dump Experiments
Post by: dsquared18 on June 24, 2023, 12:30:40 PM
Hi Sky,

Been a while since but thanks for this schematic.

Have you had success with it?

Cheers,
D2