Have you heard about the used oil furnace from 1950's that ran on water? Patent was issued to army service men in Texas for only adding the initial water line to T fitting for used oil burner on used jeep engine oil, to get 50% increase in efficiency. That was not what was written in their application for Patent. SS coil tubing in brick insulated firepot of oil burner hooked to input common water line. Oil furnace started. Temperature gauge monitored for temp up to 1500 degrees F. Then valve opened so as superheated ONLY steam is allowed in T fitting with oil to tiny nozzle. Nice burn flame runs constant. Then oil line was quickly shut off. Furnace still runs. Shock wave from 90 lbs pressure to zero AMBIENT in fire-pot forms Hydrogen and Oxygen torch flame that also heats heat ex changer. Normally water molecules separate at about 3000-6000 degrees which is too much energy. The vibration shock wave allows for disassociation at lower temperature. Electric motor with dual shafts ran 2 oil pumps at 90lbs. If input water shut off, and cooled down, then furnace has to be restarted on oil. A much smaller unit in crate was shown to a US senator in Washington building underground parking , as an open trunk display. This was somewhat similar to the propane operated camping stove with circular pores, vertical round fire brick insulated chimney, and interior SS tubing of initial water. When steam introduced to T fitting, the fuel used was shut down leaving burning circular torch flames. It probably used minerals free distilled water so as nozzle would not clog. (US Patent office not allow for over unity for public.- Free Energy is eliminated in issued US Patents. US- 1958, 2,863,499.
The water furnace did not have water or steam mixed with fuel oil. The heat ex-changer in brick highly insulated fire pot , was brought up to =/> 1500 degrees F. Oil removed when steam valve was opened. This was a new science phenomena when the shock wave broke up the H20 molecule at the unusual lowered temperature. Read paragraph again. The US Patent issued was NOT what was asked for in the complete application manuscript in 1950. Patent said steam mixed with fuel oil.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/d8/37/25/72a4bc21730fe7/US2863499-drawings-page-1.png
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2863499A/en?oq=US2863499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GnvbG69DAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txIFnRHhT7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4QLCO5w1RM&t=15s
https://patents.google.com/patent/US474344A/en?oq=Us2863499
Oldies but goodies. Idea is older.
Rgds
Marcos
https://patents.google.com/patent/US474344A/en?oq=Us474344
Quote from: marcosbk on September 05, 2023, 01:31:21 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US474344A/en?oq=Us2863499
Oldies but goodies. Idea is older.
Rgds
Marcos
It's practically a blowtorch. The above is with the addition of water, which by breaking down into hydrogen and oxygen adds to the efficiency.
Agree.. Both mention superheated steam for improoved burning
Here from Japan 2006 ? (I believe has been posted here many years ago ,and again since then)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PbdymGFk8 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PbdymGFk8)
(I believe above was shared by member Johan 1955 years ago emulsifying water/fuel )
EDIT To add
Above video claims more heat out with 50% water emulsion
Always thought some proprietary formula ( "specific ION " mentioned in claims)
Now ?
Maybe easier than we thought
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Edit
Grumage had shared this year's back
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3f8v9bjx7g (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3f8v9bjx7g)
26 minute mark
Water boom ( frequency?)
Recently Grumage was referring to some water pump he had seen a patent on
From early 1900's
Used frequencies to manipulate ( pump ) water in a column ( with nodes at specific input and diaphragms and ??)
Was looking for that when I found other contributions ( posted in this reply)
Still haven't found the pump he referenced !
Repost for Smudge question
Quote from: russwr on 2023-09-05, 17:30:34 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4504.msg106881#msg106881)The US Patent issued was NOT what was asked for in the complete application manuscript in 1950. Patent said steam mixed with fuel oil.
Smudge question:
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How do we get sight of the original application manuscript? The patent mentions application number 291691 but the USPTO classification system requires two more numbers preceding that 6 digit number.
Smudge
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The US Patent issued was a 7 digit number only, For the so called Jackson water burner -as it was called. 2,863,499 Patent does not include any over unity data , or mention of self running mode, or mention of free fuel. There is no more tech data from manuscript - as it is the same as explained in the above paragraph written. Patent Dept does not allow that for the public. The Patent examiners reworded the tech data to suit them, for an up to 50% increase in efficiency of fuel oil with added steam, and decreasing hole size of pin point oil spray nozzle. You would also have to figure out how to get free quantities of mineral free distilled water. (non clogging of heat exchanger and small orifices) Waste heat to distill plain water, solar energy with Fresnel lens concentrater, or or obtain the waste water from commercial refrigeration systems building that runs distilled water drippings line down the drain.
"you would also have to figure out how to get free quantities of mineral free distilled water. (non clogging of heat exchanger and small orifices)"
Best is rain water. Sometimes even better than comercial one. Definitely cheaper. With a TDS meter can be verified
i read the original submitted manuscript. What I told you in the message post is what's in it.
ramset
QuoteRecently Grumage was referring to some water pump he had seen a patent on
From early 1900's
Used frequencies to manipulate ( pump ) water in a column ( with nodes at specific input and diaphragms and ??)
He could mean the Bellocq wave pump. I built and tested the bellocq pump and the hydraulic ram pump which are similar. The bellocq wave pump will always stick in my mind because he made direct analogies between electric and hydraulic systems.
My experiments were pretty crude using a solenoid plunger, lengths of pvc tubing and homemade ball/check valves. The pump works very well however it is a low volume/high head pump.
AC