Nothing new on Steorn's website. They promised some announcements on April 1. Is anyone aware of some new developments there? Or what goes on with them in general?
They Postponed for next week, you can see it in Steorn Forum. Steorn has been very quiet the past week. Perhaps they are going to make some major anouncement.
Oh the drama!
Thanks chileanone. The frum you speak of, is that the Developers forum? I tried to login to that one, but my old user name/password doesn't work. I can't find a way to register with the new forum.
YEAH!! Lets make a roll of drums!!
Did the scientists already get the devices to test ?
Why are they making such a long story out of it ?
The forum I mention is the one in steorn's website, it is reachable in the about steorn-Fun stuff section.
Stephan: They are taking the time required. This is too huge to rush it.
Chealianone: thanks, I found it.
Hartiberlin: I don't think they have a working device. They could never get it going. They want the jury to verify the theory on some kind of a demonstrator along the line of their "Steorn toy" (which doesn't work either, I might add). I'm pretty sure they are flogging a dead horse.
The interviews I listened to indicated they had three devices of different scale to confirm the scalablity of the effect. Maybe I misunderstood? Are these the toy devices you are talking about? Can't really recall which one it was, but he also talked about the accuracy of their measurements.
No one is closing the loop though. Maybe, doing so will cause the universe to fold up on itself and we'll all be gone. *poof* (c: OU has to be possible in my mind - just finding a form that will allow the effect to be used at a macro-scopic scale is the hard part.
i hate when a company make a lot of ads saying they have something that not working, i did not even see any video of the device working...
i bet it's another hoax, if they have not closed the loop yet it's kinda stupid
we will see next week!
There's no loop to close in Steorn's approach, it's self starting, self sustaining, start stop motion. It could be classed as a PMM, but with a twist, different from all previous approaches, no sticky spot to deal with, the timing of the motion is everything in this device, beating the magnetic lag, in a tricky way, to go around the magnetic field gaining energy. This and much more has all been said in Steorn open Forum if you have patience to dig trough it.
Let's wait and see.
;D hey!i will only say that I am sorry for my life and all my effords against free energy!Where is it>? ;D
From the new sticky -
"Its been a while - just to let you know that we will be releasing the update on the Jury process and so on on Friday April 13th. - Sean"
Delays are allways an issue, so lets accept the delays and hope for info the 13.th :)
Vidar
Well, the update came, and contained nothing of substance.
Is this this toy, what they will deliver now to the 22 scientists ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94p1zgF6_JY
or something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIAV089eLLw
?
Thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
i dont think its work since you need to push on a lever, the force applyed on this lever is probably the energy that make this rotate nothing more then one turn
Update Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3aaRrEIp-0
Questions Answered (kind of):
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=55851
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Steorn's motives are not clear. Well, besides their need for public approval. To follow their non-disclosure has all the payoff of a wet T-shirt contest. They parade the goods, but nothing to take home. (c:
I'm not expecting much, but I wish they would get on with the show.
I read through the 250 posts on the Steorn link. It sounds like whatever "effect" they have "discovered", it is so small that it would have been dismissed as instrument error 20 years ago (according to Steorn's post). If the effect is so small it got lost in instrument noise for all these years, you have to wonder how it will scale.
I also conclude from the posts that the stop-start thing keeps restarting (self running). But they sure don't try to make things clear.
Hello together
Yesterday i saw a You Tube Presentation via Keelynet.
The Vid shows a Magnet arrangement on a Zylinder and as far as i understood,they claim
to have a continously rotating thing build.
On the End of the Vid they guide you to steorn
Is this the ORBO Technology?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvHb41KP7To
Helmut
No,
it seems to be a faked, nonworking Perendev Motor...
you see it, when you analyze the video, he used a loop
and the rotor does not accelerate, as it should do in a
permanent magnet motor.
Hello all,
I'm sorry to say this, but the Steorn device is a Fake. I found that out by looking real close at what they have. It cannot possably work.
I spent severial years trying to make a magnet shilding device. It allways takes more power to move the shield than the motor puts out. In fact I tryed the very same thing that Steorn has tryed. Never to work.
Sorry!!
Later,,,,,,,,JackH
i beleive you, from the only video available about this device,
1. the operator need to pull a lever to activate the device, the pull is the force used to activate it, then the device turn and stop, go to 1
JackH, steorns stuff has nothing to do with LEMA's or low energy magnetic actuators. I'm afraid you are a bad judge of character.
I know this is slightly off topic, and I appologise, my only excuse is that I am not familiar enough with this site to place my question in the correct place.
Maybe Stephan or one of the other senior members would be kind enough to show me where this should be placed.
My question is a simple one.
Is it possible to make a movie of a PMM that would be skeptic proof.
I understand that one of the things is should have is to show a complete walk around of the machine during the complete acceleration phase.
Are there any other points that you require to satisfy you of the validity of a video.
Many thanks Frank
A complete walk-around video had been nice. However, one can never be sure if there is hidden energy source inside the device - or under it between the device and the floor/table. The device should be built, tested and rebuilt in one continous video, without interruptions. If it takes one hour doesnt matter. The alternative is to give us drawings so anyone can try to replicate the motor - physically or by simulation.
The motor also should drive a load for years without conciderably loosing magnetic force - which is ofcourse too much to place in one video ;D
Br.
Vidar
Quote from: Low-Q on May 07, 2007, 09:25:18 AM
A complete walk-around video had been nice. However, one can never be sure if there is hidden energy source inside the device - or under it between the device and the floor/table. The device should be built, tested and rebuilt in one continous video, without interruptions. If it takes one hour doesnt matter. The alternative is to give us drawings so anyone can try to replicate the motor - physically or by simulation.
The motor also should drive a load for years without conciderably loosing magnetic force - which is ofcourse too much to place in one video ;D
Br.
Vidar
Thank you Vidar I will think seriously about your suggestions.
I wont release the drawings just yet as I still have not decided about the whole patent vs open source debate.
I can see that open sourcing would work for a product like linux, which is continually developing by the community that uses it, but I cant see us all rushing out and making our own toasters or microwaves, even if the plans are open source. It seems to me that machines require large numbers to make them financially affordable to the masses. And if the plans for such a device are open sourced there will be nothing to stop any of the large manufacturing companies from churning them out as just another appliance.
As far as I can see open sourcing
once I have a patent is the best of both worlds, as it gives it free to those who can build for themselves, but it prevents large corporations from profiting from what will eventually become just another household appliance.
Kind regards Frank
Hi Frank,
just ask the people to donate to you
their first month of saved electricity bill money,
if they have built your device...
You will probably get a lot of money this way...
and you could make much money from being famous then..
Regards, Stefan.
P.S. : Frank,
yes, a video should show your magnet motor
accelerate and not hide any parts and it should be
clear , that there are no hidden battery compartments somewhere
inside the machine.
So explain it all in detail with your voice and maybe
also disassemble in the video bigger parts, so one
could see, that there is no hidden battery anywhere.
Friggin so many comments cancelled by mouse actions.................blargh!
steorn's 'asymmetry and energy in magnetic systems' document.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=438