:-X "I have been asked to no longer post on my own threads. The "thought police" win.
Bruce,
Please post a .gif file or similar graphic format showing your idea. No MS-Word docs please!
Thanks,
~Dan
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Dansway,
Do you understand now how it works?
HIGH freq. pulsed in opposite directions of the same coil produce a big kick at the spark gap and into the bigger wire. For some reason, this attracts many more electrons also. He then uses the magnet to turn the moving electron into current. He tells us in his clues what FREQ. to try.
Thanks Bruce.
I think we need a further clarifying diagram or description of what wires are sparking. A spark needs to travel from one wire to another wire (obviously!). Not sure what wire ends you are talking about for the gap to jump across. This needs some voltage and current obtained from the ? frequency pulses ?
How are you applying the frequency pulse (2 wire connection) to the one wire at one end and then applying the frequency pulse to the other end of the same wire ? To me that's four pulsing wires that needs to be connected to only 2 ends of the one wire. And then there is also a spark gap on this wire ?
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Quote from: btentzer on April 23, 2007, 11:52:40 PM
Bob,
Please read my FIRST post. I have Bold faced and underlined the answer to your question, under "spark gap". There is no actual "SPARK", just a gap. I call is a spark gap to help others understand.
Regards,
Bruce
"Just Experiment!"
I have obviously read you first post. Spark gap means gap across which a spark travels (whether visible to the eye or not) - if you don't mean this - don't use the term.
Sorry. Your bold face doesn't answer my questions. Much of what you attribute to Steven Marks is actually guessing by Mannix. The parable is pure Mannix who was guessing how the TPU works - it is not Steven Marks. You've mixed the two together. In fact what you highlight in bold is Mannix, I believe.
If you want people to build this you need to explain better with a better diagram what wires you believe are attached to where. You can't inject a frequency pulse into a wire (
that has some current behind it) without a two wire connection to that wire or some form of inductive transfer to that wire.
All you appear to have done is explain how Mannix believes the SM device works. And given Mannix doesn't have a working device....
So I ask again, how are these wire connected ?
regards Bob
:-X
We are using 1:1 audio isolation transformers to couple with the wire. Currently using audio amplifier with signal generators for a crude controller.
:)
Well we have been playing around with this idea all night now and no real results. There is some sort of coupling showing on the scope with echos almost or delays of the initial freq injections but thats it..no kicks.
Quote from: btentzer on April 24, 2007, 12:16:52 AM
I am sorry Bob. I have too many threads going.
Let me explain. The Bold Faced underlined is a Steve Mark quote, under the paragraph that starts off "Let's talk about Kick"
Say that you have a 5" circle of stranded wire. This give you two ends. Strip both ends. Take a FEW STRANDS from the left end and run this to your controller. Take a few STRANDS from the right end and run this to your controller. In between these two place a stripped LARGER STRANDED WIRE between but NOT touching. This LARGER STRANDED wire should wrap tightly around (perpindicular) the 5" wire. Place a PERM MAGNET facing North and South ABOVE the GAP. Fast step HIGH FREQ in the ranges mentioned in my first post, first in one direction and then in the other direction. Where they MEET is a BIG KICK. And then the electrons jump onto the larger wire, except many more of them.
Regards.
Ok, thanks. I understand how you are connecting up.
An issue you need to take into account is the speed at which the freq. will zip round the wire is phenominal. You will not be able to setup a circuit which can send a freq. in one end of the wire and then in the other end of the wire so that they meet on the wire -
in the way that you describe. If you consider that transatlantic calls over underwater cables have no discernable delay, and that is a considerable distance, and then consdier the length of wire in the TPU, you'll see what I mean.
You could overcome the speed issue by having a bifilar wound coil. Sending the same signal into each and in theory they should induct each others signal. But then this is moving away from the thrust of your idea and back into the idea of deliberately creating a poorly designed transformer.
Not sure how you can solve the speed issue.
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Let it be known, my below post isn't MEAN, it is just the truth...
Funny isn't it, you claim to know the secrets, yet you just re-quote SM and merely say 'just do it! then send me a working device'. You are claiming that you found the secret, lol, you only just found some of SM's words... Now you try to make it seem like you figured something out!
What don't you describe the EXACT MECHANISM OF THE OVERUNITY GAIN IN THE TPU!?!? Can you do that?
Or will you just re-quote SM again...
Another thing, you said:
"I am using 6BQ7-A TUBES for the input and phase inverter.....and so you can imagine how CRYSTAL CLEAR my HIGH FREQUENCIES are..." (p.s. You just thought he was talking about his stereo! LOL)
Do you ACTUALLY believe that we thought he was talking about his stereo?!? Are you serious?!?
Your intentions are well, but your aptitude for the TPU isn't.
In addition, in your first long post on the TPU, you are quoting all these quotes of SMs, but guess what? Many of those supposed SM quotes that are the basis of your theory, aren't even from SM!
I am bringing this all to light so that everyone reading this doesn't get excited over nothing...
TAO,
Are you trying to tell simple people like me that I am not going to get free power from this new design!! WTF...I still have not slept since the release of the data. All I have managed to do so far is make my coil sing and buzz like a bumble bee.
And to think I thought this was the answer......... :'(
:-X
So, you want to play the 'I'm not technical, so that is how I could see through SM's words'-CARD...
Well, let me ask you this!!!
You are saying that you understand the TPU based on what SM said. That must mean that you take into account EVERYTHING that SM said, right?!?!
Well, did you happen to read SM's post where he says that the MAGNETS ARE NOT NEEDED FOR THE TPU TO WORK?
Based on you saying that you READ and LISTENED to SM, why did you happen to disregard that post? SM said that the TPU had to be able to start via a magnet, to show that it truely was OU, because people didn't like seeing any batteries in his devices. And yes, SM said that in his first devices he used batteries, but only to power the control circuitry. Maybe you need to read more...
You are getting all these guy's poor hopes up with your large posts where you blatantly say that you have the answer, even though you have not made a simple coil! What a shame...
:-X
"The people of this forum are not mindless robots, but are very bright. You say "poor guys" as if they can not think for themselves. "
Man, are you trying to flip this on me or what? Your actually trying to incinuate that I think the people here are robots??? Are you mad? Now you are offending me!
It's not going to work buddy. I am looking out for all the guys here.
I was here since day one, the people of this forum know this. I said 'poor guys' because there are many that are NEW to this forum and NEW to the TPU, and they come here seeing you say "LOOK EVERYONE, HERE IS THE ANSWER!!!", when all that you are really doing is reposting SM's words with some words capitalized to show meaning.
I am NOT targeting you, I am merely trying to show that you aren't really showing ANY answer at all, you are just resposting SM's words and claiming that 'we missed something.'
And what info did you give out? "Instead of keeping all of this info to myself, I chose to share it. " You just reposted SM's words.
This is over now, you obviously don't know how to discuss or debate logically, you have not addressed even one of my questions that clearly show you are in the wrong here. So, go ahead and flip it on me again and make me look like the bad guy.
I was trying to be nice to you when I said "Your intentions are well, but your aptitude for the TPU isn't."
The primary reason I posted that first reply to you was that you blasted your long post across at least 4 threads, claiming you HAD THE ANSWER, when all you did was repost SM's words. I didn't think that was right considering your post WAS FULL OF ERRORS.
And, to let you know something, I WILL be posting my final theory to the TPU, and my primary description of it won't include SM's posts, for the same reason that you can't define a word in a dictionary using that same word...
El Fin.....................................
Tao -
Peace.
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I am finding that coulpling with these wires at any freq is tough. I could just brute force pulsed dc or ac here but I can't figure how you get multiple freqs on the wire. I see your posts about using tubes. I am a big time tube guy in the RF field. The problem with experimenting with tubes is the power supply can be high voltage and usually have to be built. Depending on the type of tube and application you may need several power sources just to get it going.
Another thing that puzzles me is the fact you talk about lower resistance on the larger wire yer the air gap or spark gap as you call it is the biggest resistor of them all. Its a neat idea but seems like more is missing then just the controller. Perhaps there is more to decode.
BTW some people on the boards are suspect in terms of credibilty. I have heard rumors of companys that are on the verge of the same technology planting people on these boards to spread disinformation and to bash others that are close to the secrets.
Have you seen anything resembling a vacuum tube in the SM videos? Nothing larger than a sugar cube is apparent in the coils he is running. Transformers and tubes and other cumbersome devices are simply distractions. Sm is not using them in the videos, so if you want power from the device you should not need to use any of those things.
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@butzer,
Don't waste your time. We are already here and in full force. The TPU dynamics have already been presented to qualified professionals 'OUT there' to no avail.
Steven had tube equipment available at the time so that is what he used.
I used my electric guitar and sound processor to measure the extent of the magnetic field around the GK4 when it was kicking out VHRF and microwave. Does that make me Eddy Van Halen?
Back away from the keyboard and put your head down.
--giantkiller. Can you spell audio engineer?