See This and tell me about this!...
I made this circuit and this work..the power is 1/6
Hey, :)
Those coils look like tesla pancake coils.
Tesla pancake coils are M?bius.
http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl?number=512340 (http://www.pat2pdf.org/pat2pdf/foo.pl?number=512340)
Is that what you mean MACEDONIA CD?
Marco.
yes like this but look the circuits but
quite intresting :)
can you post a pic with the bulb on ?
Marco
hey i dont pic whit bulb i teel to everyvone this circuits is real and is working made this and you see but a have a litel problem my out energy is 6 times biger then input but the out energy i have a only 2 second and wait 10 sekond to charge capacitator and same agen and again <<<<<<<<<<< problem is how to spead chargyng the capacitator not to wait 10 second ,,, 2 second be ok for chargyng see circuits >>>>>>>>>>> bealivet if you want more watage in out or voltage only you need more paralel coil in the colector . if you now how please teel by from.................. Macedonia ........................
Post a video if possible, this looks interesting!
CD yes that will lite a bulb for a few seconds as you built a Tesla feedback transformer and tank circut. the transformer will triple the voltage and the cap will hold the volatge for a short time and needs to be regenerated. I belive Tesla used thih to bleed off power so not to over load a circut we call this a soft start for motors today Greenly sells a circut that has on of these in to to control large machines to lower in inrush current.
Hello Macedonia CD,
Have you tried to replace C2 20000uF electrolytic capacitor first with a 4700uF to see the charging time can be reduced? If time gets reduced, you may find ways to reduce the inner impedance of the rest of your circuit that charges up the capacitor. The RC time constant!
My questions:
P1 is a MOSFET switch?
What value has got C1?
The speed diode is again the double diode from a PC supply but only one half of it is used?
Regards
Gyula
How long does the bulb stay lit after you wait until the cap is charged? If its only a short while or a mere flash than this is no more than a simple transformer similar to that found in portable cameras for the flash bulb (which store a higher voltage charge in a capacitor and discharge it when needed).
Quote from: Sataur? on June 16, 2007, 02:40:55 PM
How long does the bulb stay lit after you wait until the cap is charged? If its only a short while or a mere flash than this is no more than a simple transformer similar to that found in portable cameras for the flash bulb (which store a higher voltage charge in a capacitor and discharge it when needed).
If I understand his Reply #4 above correctly, the bulb is lit for 2 seconds, the charging time is 10 seconds...
OK macedonia coling ha ha haa
ok like this way i charging capacitator in about whit max charg 10 second ok if i put small capacitator my bulb whil start light litel small but if you put more uf cap then you get more second to light bulb whit more power ok that is that
.... IF you are able to help how to charge my cap 20000uf whit a short time that i whil thanks to all in this forum
ok my solution is made first is i put simple ac/dc converter whit 4 diode this diode is simple im mean simple for audio amplifiers this diode is made for very small frekvenci not for a khz then my chargyn whit this diode is not a 10 second but is about 1 minute ,,, then a have idea anther what if i put spead diode then get litel progres then chargyng is a 10 second ok ok ok but 10second is long time ??????? ok last night i thing ithing i thing what solutuion can be to charge whit a short time then 10 second and here is my idea beacouse i dont have more spead diode ho is made for mega hercg <<mhz>> I THING WHAT YOU MEAN FOR THIS <<<<<< IF I PUT SPECIAL NPN RF TRANZISTORS ,, HOW DIODE NOT HOW TRANZISTOR WHAT WHIL HAPEND >>>>>>HA HAAAA THAT IS THAT EVERY TRANZISTOR HAS A 2 DIODE OK WHEN A CONECTED <<BASE AND COLECTOR >>> THEN A HAVE A DIODE <<<<OK DIODE HO IS WORKING IN THE mhz >>>> thing about this my friends ...
BIG HAND I GIVET TO ALL YOU IN THIS FORUM <<<< MANY THANKS TO ALL MEN HO HELP MY >>>>> BIG HI HI HI HI FOR <<<<< DIGI LABS READ THIS >>> THIS I TAPE IS MACEDONIAN LANGUEGE READ GOLEM POZDRAV JOVAN PROBAJ DA NAPRAVIS NESTO KAO MENE VIDIGI SLIKITE GORE TIE SE OD MENE I SHEMATA E OD MENE RAZGLEDAJTE I KE VIDETE STO SUM NAPRAVIL , I AKO IMATE REPLY KAZETE KADE GRESAM I DRUGO SAKAM DA TI KAZAM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< JAS NE GO POLNAM KONDEZATOROT SO 8 WATI VO SEKUNDA TUKO MOJATA CELOKUPNA POTROSNJA E NA SAAT VREME A ENERGYJATA STO JA DOBIVAM E NASEKOI 10 SEKUNDI TOA ZNACI DEKA JAS DOBIVAM NA SEKO 10 SEK, WATZA OKOLU 45 ILI GRUBO KAZANO 50 WATI E PA SEGA TI VIDI KOLKU JAS DOBIVAM ,, DALI POMALCE OD TOA STO NOSAM NA VLEZ ILI NOSAM POMACE A DOBIVAM POVISE NA IZLEZ
BRATE OVAA SHEM A SE TI KAZUVA NEMA POGOLEMI DETALJI NO SEPAK AKO SE RAZBIRAS DOVOLNO KE MOZES DA NAPRAVIS I DA SE UVERIS DEKA TOA STO SUM GO NAPRAVIL TOA E VISTINA
so he replaced his speed diode with two legs of a transister, now it charges very fast.
Is that correct Macedonia CD?
Rich
A big thank you to Digilab for his time and effort in translating this text.
This is a path not worth distracting us, though we give our Macedonian friend every kind and best wish in his continued research.
Digilabs translation:
Hello Bruce,
About the part of message which is written on Macedonian:
Start of translation
Big Regards,
Try to do something like I did. See the pictures above, they are mine and the schematic is mine. Look what I have done. If you do reply tell me where I did wrong, and I want to tell you something else.
<<<<<< I am not charging the capacitor with 8 Watts in second, but all my drawing of power is in one hour, but the energy which I am receiving is on every 10 seconds. That means I am having on every 10 seconds power of 45 Watts or around 50 Watts, so now you see how much I am getting, is it less than what I am bringing to input or I bring less and get more on output.
This schematic is telling you everything. There are not any details left, so if you understand enough you can do it for yourself and you will see that what I have done is true.
End of translation
My comment:
This part of message is meant for me, especially to explain and justify the power/energy relationship the way he understands them, since I tried to explain that part to him in my previous mail.
I saw the schematics and the pictures of the coils. He is showing only one coil, so I guess he is stacking at least two of them and what he is getting is an air core transformer, where magnetic coupling is poor, so that?s why he has to raise the frequency in order to induce some voltage in the secondary coil.
Anyhow, from the message again it?s obvious that he doesn?t understand exactly the definitions of power and energy. If you are drawing 8 Watts of Power, that?s 8 Watts of Power, but multiplied by the time you are drawing that power gives you the energy.
For him Power of 8 Watts drawn in 1 hour is again 8 Watts of Energy, it?s not 8 Watt-Hour of Energy (or 8x3600=28.8 KwSeconds). So the way he understands is: I am inputting 8 Watts of Power (doesn?t matter for how long), but I am outputting 50 Watts of power (again, doesn?t matter for how long). So 50 Watts compared to 8 Watts, there is my gain. Ahhh, if life was like that?. Smiley
I did explain this to him, told him the definitions and equations, and since at this moment I am not in Macedonia, I told him to ask any electrical engineer over there to explain this to him.
ok i teling to all i susces
i have another experiment and a make this
my 10 second is no longer 10 i make of 3 second to give my power of 50 watt ok ok ok ok ok
i hope to anderstend how you to make of this divices but you dont anderstend
you traid to make beter <<<< i make this >>>>> but i dont tell to you how to make this charging whit more speed
i whant time i said to you only i whant to talk whit specialist man ho anderstend elektroniks
HEXT TIME I CAN EXPLANE AND I CAN MAKE I VIDEO CLIP HOW
STEVEN MARK MAKE HIS T.P.U AND I SAY ITS VERY SIMPE
ONLY <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< POWERFOLL ELEKTRO MAGNET WHIT
VERY SMALL ELE. ENER. ....... AND ANOTHER VERY HIGH SPEED
TO MOVE THIS ELEKTRO MAGNET ... THAT IS EXPLANE EVERTHING
HOW IS WORK HIS TPU AND HIS SECRET .....
IN HIS VIDEO CLIP S. M. SAY MOVE ELEKTRONS IN WIRES WHIT
ELEKTROMAGNET FILD WHIT 5000 CICLE IN SECOND HO GIVET
DC OUT THE PROBLEM IS HOW TO MAKE POWERFULL ELE.MAG.
WHIT VERY SMAL ELE. ENERGY IF NOW HOW THEN YOU CAN
MAKE TPU LIKE S.M. THEN YOU GET 1000 AMPERS IF YOU WHANT
ONLY IF YOU MAKE POWERFOLL ELE. MAG. WHIT VERY SMALL ELEK.
ENERGY THIS EXPLANE EVERTHING .
MAKE ELEKTRO MAGNET POWERFULL ONLY WHIT 9VOLT BATERY
WHIT 0,1 AMPER AND MOVE WHIT HIGH SPEED THAT IS TPU AND YOU SOLVED HIS MISTERY THANKS
Quote from: MACEDONIA CD on June 25, 2007, 03:46:08 PM
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< POWERFOLL ELEKTRO MAGNET WHIT
VERY SMALL ELE. ENER. ....... AND ANOTHER VERY HIGH SPEED
TO MOVE THIS ELEKTRO MAGNET ... THAT IS EXPLANE EVERTHING
HOW IS WORK HIS TPU AND HIS SECRET .....
IN HIS VIDEO CLIP S. M. SAY MOVE ELEKTRONS IN WIRES WHIT
ELEKTROMAGNET FILD WHIT 5000 CICLE IN SECOND HO GIVET
DC OUT THE PROBLEM IS HOW TO MAKE POWERFULL ELE.MAG.
WHIT VERY SMAL ELE. ENERGY IF NOW HOW THEN YOU CAN
MAKE TPU LIKE S.M. THEN YOU GET 1000 AMPERS IF YOU WHANT
ONLY IF YOU MAKE POWERFOLL ELE. MAG. WHIT VERY SMALL ELEK.
ENERGY THIS EXPLANE EVERTHING .
MAKE ELEKTRO MAGNET POWERFULL ONLY WHIT 9VOLT BATERY
WHIT 0,1 AMPER AND MOVE WHIT HIGH SPEED THAT IS TPU AND YOU SOLVED HIS MISTERY THANKS
Actually my friend from Macedonia, that is half of it! :) The half we have not gotten to yet! LOL
Everything I quoted, I agree with, as many of you know by now. What is the answer?
1. Invert the 9volt battery to AC.
2. Set the AC Hz to 7.23 Hz.
This give you a very fast oscillating electromagnet, and gives you a very strong electromagnet because it is tapped close to Shumanns resonance. (Remember Marco's magnets video?) This will squeeze the electrons, to assist control and to move them where you want.
SM's words:You know, it is very similar to the idea of a long garden hose.
Picture a hose with water in it.
If you pick up one end and move along the length of the hose you will
move the water constantly along in the direction you are moving.
You could also squeeze the hose in the direction to move the water
along as well.
And you could do both to control the movement of the water more
precisely.You can think of the movement of water as the movement of
electrons through the collector coils.Happy Days!
Bruce
Hey Bruce:
Please don't take this as a disrespect. I'm so confused by your many statements and theory.
This last one is like you''re translating Macedonian to Dutch! (sorry if we have Dutch folks on this forum!)
Cheers
chrisC
Hi Chris,
No, It is a great question! So let me clarify, because it will help others as well.
My theory 1.3 LOL
In my mind I have broken down the components of SM's TPU as follows:
1. Operations/function
2. Solid State controller
3. Real function of the control wires
Operations/function
For the function, I see frequency signals at fast send off as we have been doing, within the collectors.
As part of that process, I see identical signals (35.705 KHz + 250 KHz or close) with different sources input in opposition to one another. This sets up two revolving fields as a gyroscope within the Collectors. This function will create power. I believe far too much, if we seeking OU can wrap our mind around that. That brings us to the second part:
Solid State controller
This will do the following, as I see it:
1. Send off the signals fast send off (I believe Roberto has given us a start on this)
2. Will provide seperate sources for each cluster of 2 or 3 frequencies being sent in opposition. Based on what BEP has said, It would be only 2 frequencies, because the intermodulation would be the third and would happen within the collectors automatically.
3. Future controller will have to "modulate" (I think that is the right word. BEP would know) the frequencies, because they would continue to create new frequencies as BEP on my thread shows and without control, as SM said, it will destroy itself.
4. Will invert our battery to AC and feed this into the control coils at 7.23 hz. That brings us to the third part:
Control Wires
Control wires that "control" the flow of electrons by sqeezing them like water to go in just one direction, thus giving us an output of DC and not AC. This is done by an oscillating AC electromagnet at 7.23 Hz. Providing a changing field and a strong magnetic wave for minimal power.
As you can see my theory has matured! LOL ;)
I hope this helped!
Thank you for your time,
Bruce
Very good.
Now picture in your minds the wave directions of the mag fields expansions. Especially when the BEMF collapses back onto the copper...
http://www.gmi.edu/~drussell/Demos/waves/wavemotion.html
We don't want to leave out any artifact of radiant energy.
--giantkiller.
HI MY FRIENDS IS NOT A TRANSFORMATOR IS ELEKTROMAGNET OK MOVING IS HIGH SPEED IF YOU WHANT A HELP HERE I M TO HELP OK THANK TO EVERYWONE BY FROM Macedonia by
Hello All,
This was PM'd to me from our Macedonian friend. I agree, either we "test, experiment" with an ac 7.3 Hz electromagnet and/OR tune our collectors to that resonance.
OK YOU ARE DONT ANDERSTEND MY IS LIKE THIS
OK TKIS IS NOT A TRANFORMATOR THIS IS ELEKTROMAGNET HO IS APSOLUTLI IS NOT THE SAME LIKE ORDONERY TRANSFORMER OK
YOU MAKE ONLY ELEKTROMAGNETIC NOT WHIT CORE THEN YOU MAKE COLECTORS COIL THEN YOU MAKE A OSCILATOR HO IS PULSE THE ELEKTROMANETIC WHIT HIGH SPEED IF YOU R OSCILATOR IS VERY HIGH SPEED THEN YOU GET A BIG POWER IN THE OUT OF THIS COLECTORS OK
BY
The answer is ONE of the three:
1. AC electromagnet 7.23 Hz (reference marco's dancing magnets in youtube for more understanding.
2. Collectors are tuned to 7.3 Hz ("tuned just off of the frequency of power" located at 7.8 Hz, Shumanns Resonance)
3. Both 1 & 2 must be done.
What I do know: The answer will be #1, #2 or #3
Happy, Happy days! :)
Bruce