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Title: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: tolga on July 08, 2007, 03:41:54 PM
guys i have a question , i ll be glad if u respond ..
is it normal to light a 30 watts bulb with a 9 volts 300 ma adapter ? i used two more electrical device in the line and the energy saving 30 watts bulb kind of lights , not completely but lets say halfway .. ( sorry for my English ) .. i ll try later to do the same with a 9 volts battery .. i almost know nothing about electricity but it seems a bit weird to me that the bulb gives light with a battery which is designed to work with 220 volts ..
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: bitRAKE on July 08, 2007, 04:10:28 PM
What is the true output of the adapter and how have you measured it?
(Usually, it is higher than stated on the label.)
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: hartiberlin on July 08, 2007, 06:26:58 PM
What exact "adapter" do you use ?
What do you mean by this ?
Thanks.
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: tolga on July 09, 2007, 03:37:49 AM
hi again .. should i say dc power supply maybe ? .. ok i ll write down what s written on it here ..
type:dv-9300 sup
input:230v-50hz
output9v dc, 300ma
t?v ce

i tried it with another one with same output and it lights the 30 watts too .. then i tried a 20 watts bulb and it happens again ..
if this is something strange i ll take the picture of the other electric devices and how i connect them and send it to u ( i dont have a digital cam and it ll take a day or two to find one )

edit : ten min ago i tried it with a 3volts 300ma dc ps and the flourecant flickers again but this time it s a bit harder to find the correct gap i used to make sparks in the connection ..
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: tolga on July 09, 2007, 12:08:00 PM
ok at least can anyone tell me , if i take off the glass of the energy saving bulb and use a multimeter and take readings and find greater volt*a there, than it is at the ps , will this mean overunity ? ..and as i remember there were 4 wires connected to the glass part of the bulb so shall i just simply take the reading from those 4 wires or connect them to each other first and then something ? thank u ..
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: Super on July 09, 2007, 04:44:40 PM
Hi tolga,

i'm sorry to say, but your observation is nothing myhstic.

You are using energy saveing lamps, these things are nothing other than electric circuits and a neon tube. The circuit transforms input to higher voltages to light the tube ...

Also, don't wonder about that less energy u are using to light the bulp, neon tubes are half as bright as normal with only mW's!
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: tolga on July 09, 2007, 06:43:09 PM
i see thank u but i use a negative ion generator and a multimeter to light it , it dont light with the 9v dc only .. is it possible the dc power suppy to give more than 9 volts and 300ma normally ? .. and this only happens when i make a half connection with the multimeter so it sparks otherwise with coplete touch it dont light either .. and it dont light if i use a cable instead of a multimeter in line and even if i connect a 3volts torchlamp bulb it dont light again .. so many things come togather to have an effect .. so can u tell me , if i measure the input and the output and if there is a watt difference at the output is it overunity ?
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: Super on July 10, 2007, 05:09:22 PM
Quote from: tolga on July 09, 2007, 06:43:09 PM
i see thank u but i use a negative ion generator and a multimeter to light it , it dont light with the 9v dc only .. is it possible the dc power suppy to give more than 9 volts and 300ma normally ? .. and this only happens when i make a half connection with the multimeter so it sparks otherwise with coplete touch it dont light either .. and it dont light if i use a cable instead of a multimeter in line and even if i connect a 3volts torchlamp bulb it dont light again .. so many things come togather to have an effect .. so can u tell me , if i measure the input and the output and if there is a watt difference at the output is it overunity ?

When you did your mesurements correctly (and thats often the biggest problem) and there is more output than input, yes, than you could have a special effect ...

please post some more details e.g. a circuit picture or something other that helps us to better understand what you are exactly doing  ;)
Title: Re: 30 watts bulb with 9 v dc
Post by: tolga on July 10, 2007, 05:22:08 PM
actually i dont know what i m doing very well : ) .. and i cant make measurements because i use the only multimeter i have in the circuit and even if i have one other ( i can find one more ) how shall i measure the output in the fleuresant bulb ? before the bulb there is not a strong electiricty i think cause it dont light even little 2-3 volt torchbulbs .. today i tried it with a 12 volt 10 amper pc and it makes the bulb more bright .. but the 9 volt 300ma is enough to flicker the 30 watt bulb .. i ll send here a picture very soon .. thanks