selfrunning mebius coil (Russian)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632OPQGYQIw
Quote from: jonifer on July 12, 2007, 03:38:09 AM
selfrunning mebius coil (Russian)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632OPQGYQIw
can you translate it in english ?
Yes,would be nice toknow, what they are saying...
Is this an iron rod, what is hanging besides the rotating
moebius coil ?
I don?t see any batteries inside the moebius coil ..
Hmm,how is it powered ?
I would like to know how that mobius coil was made.
Is it only a srtip of sheet copper, folded to a mobius loop?
Or is it something else?
Darren
one mebius coil turn (will add turn) with nonlinear strukture inside it make run as electron
There is a pretty good explanation of this at www.efir.com.ua. Use google to translate if needed. This falls in the realm of the flat TPU and Cook coils (my opinion).
@BEP
its a lot of datafiles , so i can not follow.
pls copy the google translation from your PC and copy this here in tge tread, so hundreds members must not this problems.
G.P
this is the topologically changed capacitor on the basis of Moebius's sheet
interacting by its own electromagnetic radiation with the electromagnetic and gravitational field of the Earth, it comes in the rotation in accordance with the theorem of Deriav ???
the cylindrical capacitor is next located
Sorry,
I didn't use Google to translate. Google usually does a good job of translating this dialect into English. With my connection speed it would take several hours to do the job for other members.
Instead try googling "efir.com.ua theory". They have nice graphics in that speak and may also have same in English as that is standard practice for presenting papers.
>>>edit
If you don't speak it try this...
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://www.efir.com.ua/rus/a.php%3Fr%3D4%26d%3D10&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Defir%2Btheory%2Befir.com.ua%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
Here is a rough translation in English.
Two people are talking.
1) Here is the suspension. Here is a prototype of a non-rotating suspension.
2) Cylindrical capacitor.
1) Yes
2) And this one is changed topologically
1) A capacitor based on a mebius cross, great German physicist and mathematician
2) See, it is trying to rotate. Let?s start. Let it go
1) Okay. It started. We can reduce momentum of inertia and it will start rotating even faster, ie, suspended on a longer thread.
2) You see that a cylindrical capacitor is not moving but a capacitor based on the mebius film/tape is rotating by interfering its own electromagnetic transmission with the electromagnetic field of the earth, it makes it rotate. It is based on the Viam?s theorem (not sure about the name, not clear sound).
1) Density of the earth magnetic field is about 30 amper/meter. Gravitational field is about 9.81 m/sec/sec. Electric field is about 130 V/m. So, if you are interested, you can even calculate the frequency of rotation.
2) One can even calculate a work performed by it because it is suspended on a triangle like shape thread?
1) Can we see the threads well?
2) Not really. Okay, now I can see.
1) And it is rotating.
2) So, will we twist the threads up to a (black) marker?
1) No problem.
2) Let?s twist it up to the marker and then we can unwind it.
1) If you lower it, it will rotate even faster. It will rotate forever.
2) Now, I am asking you to stop it.
1) Stopped.
2) So, as you can see it wants to rotate again and in the same direction.
1) Now it is not rotating (stopped).
2) I.e., the ring can be rotating in an opposite direction if a (mebius) ring is connected/built in a reverse way.
1) Yes.
2) This is a right hand rotation but there is?. (end of movie).
Kames.
Kames,
Thanks a lot for the translation, that does explain a lot!
Before the translation, it 'appeared' that the bar shaped thing was some sort of magnet or iron rod, not a cylindrical capacitor that was merely there just to show how it doesn't rotate.
There appears to be some sort of white wire and a winding of sorts in that 'mebius', does anyone else see that?
Does anyone have a link to anything relating to this idea? Maybe on their site www.efir.com.ua ?
It appears to be the magnetic equivilant of that photon pinwheel in a bulb (I forgot the name).
Hi Tao,
I also saw those two white wires, coming out of the mebius capacitor. It seems to me that those two wires were used to pre-charge the mebius capacitor prior to showing the rotation of it or it was used for another experiment.
Kames.
Quote from: kames on July 13, 2007, 12:38:11 AM
Hi Tao,
I also saw those two white wires, coming out of the mebius capacitor. It seems to me that those two wires were used to pre-charge the mebius capacitor prior to showing the rotation of it or it was used for another experiment.
Kames.
Could be, makes sense. I built one of these tonight, just like the video, after it calmed down, it stopped spinning. So, maybe it would need to be charged up.
Hi Tao,
What I see in the movie is that they are using a special insulating tape for their mebius capacitor. I used, for some time, to work for one of the biggest electronics company in the world and I saw and I even have it right now, that type of insulating tape. I don?t know who is really manufacturing it. I am not aware of real dialectic properties of the tape but I was told once to keep it and not to waste it. It is dark yellow, partially opaque. The tape I have is about 15 years old and it still looks like I bought it yesterday. My guess is that insulating tape they use can provide a very long sustainable charge in a capacitor because of the very low charge leakage. However, I cannot confirm it.
Anyway, it is already after 1am and I have to go to bed. :'(
Kames.
Quote from: kames on July 12, 2007, 09:49:50 PM
Here is a rough translation in English.
Two people are talking.
1) Here is the suspension. Here is a prototype of a non-rotating suspension.
2) Cylindrical capacitor.
1) Yes
2) And this one is changed topologically
1) A capacitor based on a mebius cross, great German physicist and mathematician
2) See, it is trying to rotate. Let?s start. Let it go
1) Okay. It started. We can reduce momentum of inertia and it will start rotating even faster, ie, suspended on a longer thread.
2) You see that a cylindrical capacitor is not moving but a capacitor based on the mebius film/tape is rotating by interfering its own electromagnetic transmission with the electromagnetic field of the earth, it makes it rotate. It is based on the Viam?s theorem (not sure about the name, not clear sound).
1) Density of the earth magnetic field is about 30 amper/meter. Gravitational field is about 9.81 m/sec/sec. Electric field is about 130 V/m. So, if you are interested, you can even calculate the frequency of rotation.
2) One can even calculate a work performed by it because it is suspended on a triangle like shape thread?
1) Can we see the threads well?
2) Not really. Okay, now I can see.
1) And it is rotating.
2) So, will we twist the threads up to a (black) marker?
1) No problem.
2) Let?s twist it up to the marker and then we can unwind it.
1) If you lower it, it will rotate even faster. It will rotate forever.
2) Now, I am asking you to stop it.
1) Stopped.
2) So, as you can see it wants to rotate again and in the same direction.
1) Now it is not rotating (stopped).
2) I.e., the ring can be rotating in an opposite direction if a (mebius) ring is connected/built in a reverse way.
1) Yes.
2) This is a right hand rotation but there is?. (end of movie).
Kames.
Yeah this sounds about right TY Kames.
I have my ideas on how and why this works.
Form has everything to do with it. By form it is unity. We really live in a multidimensional universe. We look at it as 3D but that is erronious. Anyways the loop presented in the video is an infinite loop twisted to also represent infinity in a working model. It is literally Broadbanded that would implicate a wide band of frequencies that it could effectively interact with. Right hand rule of thumb is only half of it. What about left hand rule of thumb? DOH!