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Title: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: d3adp00l on July 13, 2007, 02:29:39 AM
I constantly run into people who, if they had an idea that would work they would simply sell it to the highest bidder so they could live in luxury. Why is it that 99% of all people would gladly step on everyone around them to elevate their own position? Its rather disgusting. One individual was trying to convince me just today that getting on the "inside" would be his only goal, so he could benefit and who cares about everyone else. Why can't people understand that to knowingly allow a technical breakthrough to be shelved just so they could benefit would actually hurt them, and to elevate everyone would be the only way to benefit. These super rich people need to be removed and their strangle hold on the basic building block of society needs to be eliminated. The basic starting point of all of our societies is its supply of energy, that is what provides for, allows, and creates the ability to be an industrial nation, control of it means the control of all things of a nation, the second method is to control its money.
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: acp on July 13, 2007, 06:04:00 AM
QuoteThese super rich people need to be removed

What do you mean exactly? Is that a polite way of saying exterminate them?
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: bitRAKE on July 13, 2007, 09:40:45 AM
Most super rich people live in great fear or delusion. It is the delusional ones I fear. :P
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: ResinRat2 on July 13, 2007, 10:20:55 AM
Quote from: d3adp00l on July 13, 2007, 02:29:39 AM
Why is it that 99% of all people would gladly step on everyone around them to elevate their own position?

It's the basic flaw in our human nature, though I am sure your percentage (99%) is a bit overstated. I know a few good people personally who would NOT do this, their conscience and a charity in their heart being the driving force.

The only person you can truly control is yourself. Be an example of charity, and try to shine your example to all. I think that is the best place to start.
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: TheOne on July 13, 2007, 10:36:18 AM
Maybe the governator will terminate them all! :D
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: Aphasiac on July 13, 2007, 12:35:23 PM
I dunno. At university, I enjoyed the benefit of countless scholarships and grants, and used academic resources daily that were all, or mostly, established by the generosity of philanthropists.

I've spent countless hours sitting in front of computers and equipment supplied by the Bill Gates foundation, and every week, I take my  daughter to play soccer in a beautiful park that was donated entirely by one local philanthropist.

And then  I come here, to this forum, where I ask questions and where people (who know much more than me and who have no vested interest in me or my success) donate their time and patience and encouragement.

I only know that I can't even begin to appreciate all the extras I enjoy because of private benefactors. But I do try to reciprocate where I can, because that's exactly what most of us are driven to do.

--Mark.



Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: ring_theory on July 13, 2007, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: d3adp00l on July 13, 2007, 02:29:39 AM
I constantly run into people who, if they had an idea that would work they would simply sell it to the highest bidder so they could live in luxury. Why is it that 99% of all people would gladly step on everyone around them to elevate their own position? Its rather disgusting. One individual was trying to convince me just today that getting on the "inside" would be his only goal, so he could benefit and who cares about everyone else. Why can't people understand that to knowingly allow a technical breakthrough to be shelved just so they could benefit would actually hurt them, and to elevate everyone would be the only way to benefit. These super rich people need to be removed and their strangle hold on the basic building block of society needs to be eliminated. The basic starting point of all of our societies is its supply of energy, that is what provides for, allows, and creates the ability to be an industrial nation, control of it means the control of all things of a nation, the second method is to control its money.

Just in case you havn't noticed there are people out there that are dirt poor and just to pay the bills and eat is a struggle. Do you know what it's like to be on welfare, or a fixed income? Have you ever woke up not knowing how or where your next meal is going to come from?? have you ever stood in line at the food pantry just to get a few cans of food and a loaf of bread?? better yet have you ever had to stand in line at a mission just to get a meal?? I could go on all day the situation of a poor person. The picture i would paint would be filled with horrors. Have you ever had to dumpster dive at a fast food resteraunt like mcdonalds after they close just to get food?? Have you been humiliated in these manners?? well I have!

Where was all the so called good and caring people when i was sleeping next to a pop machine in the winter just to get a little heat? None around! just a stupid cop telling me to move on. not even offering the warmth of his patrol car for a minute while he ran a wants and warrants. This is just a minute fraction of what has happened to me in my lifetime of 43 years. there was no random acts of kindness!! NOBODY and i mean NOBODY helped me to develop or fund my technologies! Therfore nobody has vested interests in my technologies, and i will do with them what i want. So far that's shown to be to open source and offer for independant research. So all the hardness that i have experianced in my lifetime has not hardened my heart twards those that have chose to not act or give of themselfs in a manner that would suit a random act of kindness. 

The selfish attitude here is the one that expects the poor man with possibly the only concept that would help mankind in a plithora of manners to just give it away!  It's not as important that they, them, the inventor ask money for their product of labors. It's what they intend to do with the monies! As if helping mankind in a plithora of manners isn't enough?  I think it would be fun to be filthy rich! A few cans of food and a loaf of bread? many pantries would require a pickup truck to haul that gift away. It would be fun to take all the financial worries away from unsuspecting families that are obviously struggling.
I would double whatever Bill Gates put twards educational grants and never report it as a tax deduction. the monies would go back to the people. It would be fun to justify it as random acts of kindness.

I have endured many harships and see where the money really needs to go. Those with TOO MUCH money have not likely endoured the hardships and subsequent humilities involved or have forgotten what it is like at the street level.

It's not enough to put humility in your pocket so to speak, You must from time to time take it out and revisit it for the heart to remain humbled. - Ring 
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: ResinRat2 on July 13, 2007, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: ring_theory on July 13, 2007, 12:35:29 PM

So all the hardness that i have experianced in my lifetime has not hardened my heart twards those that have chose to not act or give of themselfs in a manner that would suit a random act of kindness.   

And this, Ring, to the benefit of us all is from the charity in your heart.

I remember not too long ago hearing a statement from someone I must admit I did not have much respect for, but it was something that woke my mind to a person's purpose in this world. In a nutshell it was this:

If you do not use the talents you have been given on this earth to help others, then in the end, your life will amount to NOTHING!
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: d3adp00l on July 13, 2007, 10:43:41 PM
At first I thought I might agree that 99% is a bit high, then I thought about it and actually I think its probably accurate. This might be a way to explain it better. If you could build a device that would be in demand for, say 1000.00 total cost, and say, for instance market analysis says you could sell it without a problem for 10,000.00. What would you do?
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: ring_theory on July 14, 2007, 01:00:04 AM
Quote from: d3adp00l on July 13, 2007, 10:43:41 PM
At first I thought I might agree that 99% is a bit high, then I thought about it and actually I think its probably accurate. This might be a way to explain it better. If you could build a device that would be in demand for, say 1000.00 total cost, and say, for instance market analysis says you could sell it without a problem for 10,000.00. What would you do?

out the door $1010.00 However two of my inventions can be constructed for around $20 in actual materials and fit in the palm of your hand. ofcourse it will be less per unit once manufacturing gains effiency. I would be happy to get $21 per unit. anyways i know that there is going to be an extreemly high demand in the electronics market. billions of units will be demanded instantly upon release.

selling the right's for it to be shelved is out of the question! I'll remain poor if that's the case.   
Title: Re: peoples selfish attitudes
Post by: ring_theory on July 14, 2007, 01:15:06 AM
@ResinRat2

TY for the kind words and sharing the wisdom you yourself have come to know as fact. I hope others can learn from it as well.  8)