Nothing gets your attention like cold hard cash.
I have come across a challenge. The winner gets a cold hard Ten Million Dollars (before taxes.)
The challenge? Run a gas powered generator (examples below) on pure water and water alone for 100 straight hours.
http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=generator
Rules:
1: Any modification can be made to your generator. Remove the carburetor, alter the carburetor. Anything, except that it must run on its own with just pure water. No outside hoses or controls. No Gasoline!
2: The water must be pure with the exception of adding a small amount of something like KOH or NaOH to allow the water to carry current. The exhaust must pass California exhaust emissions standards current today.
3: You can split the water into any form of hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis from the power of the generator. You can use any volts/amps in either AC or DC current that is available from the generator. If you store created hydrogen and oxygen to then reuse in the system, you must store gases in approved containers. All fittings and hoses also need to be approved for the materials being handled.
4: You can use a common automotive battery as part of the system. It is suggested you choose an electric start generator as this will gave a battery system already at your disposal. You can increase the size of the battery system as long as the running generator puts off enough current to recharge the battery's in a normal manor.
5: You must preregister your intention to make such a device with an agreement to relinquish three copies of your working unit. One unit goes to the National Press Club, one unit goes to the United States Patent Office with the patent holder name being listed as The Boys and Girls Clubs Of America as 51% share holder and yourself as being the remaining 49% share holder, and one unit goes to the monetary sponsor of the challenge which will remain forever nameless.
6: No funds will be advanced to you except the winning of the prize should you make such a device as described. In the event two or more winning entries are submitted, they will share in the prize in the amounts to be awarded based upon simplicity of the systems and the efficiency of the units. Your profits from your 49% of your interest in the project will be paid in regular instalments to your bank account. Why give away 51% of your earnings of a billion dollar invention? Good Karma and millions of deserving kids is why.
7: In the event of any circumstance beyond our control, your control, be it Gods or lightning strikes, no mater what, the presenter and/or sponsor of this challenge is not liable for any direct or indirect consequence pertaining to this challenge. You are totally on your own till such time as you present us with a working unit and we give you the cash prize.
This is not a joke, this is a serious offer for anyone to make a gasoline powered generator run on water.
Contact me at lincolninked@yahoo.com if you wish to take on the task. This offer will expire in 100 days without notice.
Right. Ten million in hush money should anyone succeed. Hmmm, let me think about that for just a minute... NO!
Our end game has always been total energy independence from fossil fuel and the energy lords that control it. The beneficiary shall be all of humanity. Our work has always been and shall forever remain in the public domain. Whether you have the means to make good on this offer or not, please go away.
ZFF
My thoughts are the same! Could not have said it better myself. Do you not realize what we are doing in here? Evidentially not???..
Well said guys ;D
Go away? No problem, this offer does go away. Read the rules. On the other hand, if you have something positive to post, please do. That is what this site is all about. Helping us get over OIL.
In round numbers, you have 90 days.
The problem as I see it is no person will take this challenge seriously. Lets just say, for the sake of argument, the offer is not real. What would you be out? You would have a machine that operates outside OIL for the most part that gives free energy for taking the time to split a liquid water into two mingled gases. This machine would be worth more than any one lump sum payment.
The offer is a solid one. The only thing that is needed is someone with his thoughts set into motion. Are you that person? I doubt the three VI's (the first word as a hint is Village) posting above are going to step up to the plate. Easier to just criticize and make noise.
Are you going to step up to the plate? It's been done many times, but, those people are either dead, hiding or bought off. How did you find this offer? I wonder why there is a time limit on something so valued? That's like saying... "Sell me what I really want but you only have 100 days to sell it to me otherwise I have given up and declared it impossible because I am too rich and too stupid to read let alone get off my fat ass and try to do it myself." I myself, haven't done it as well as Stan Meyer, Daniel Dingel, Andrija Puharich and the list goes on... But I am trying, and I will succeed! I don't care about the money, I just want to be energy independent and share my knowledge with my fellow humans for nothing more than the satisfaction of doing it. If he takes off the 90 day time limit and keeps his 10,000,000 cold cash(before taxes) I'll give it to him for free. My only stipulation is he has to build it himself.
If one was to do this, and say the ten mil paid out, does the individual still own the machine, and all rights therein. In other words other than catching some people's eye, what would the ten million buy?
lol
good ones guys
peace
p.s. think open source!
Quote from: lincolninked on July 25, 2007, 01:03:59 AM
5: You must preregister your intention to make such a device with an agreement to relinquish three copies of your working unit. One unit goes to the National Press Club, one unit goes to the United States Patent Office with the patent holder name being listed as The Boys and Girls Clubs Of America as 51% share holder and yourself as being the remaining 49% share holder, and one unit goes to the monetary sponsor of the challenge which will remain forever nameless.
Thats the oddest requirement I've ever read in one of these offers.
NO ONE OWNS 1%! Let alone 51% of the rights. Its open source! Free to all! Cost of knowledge = 0$! Use your 10mil to produce and sell units when its time. Anyone will be able to build and sell it. No market cornering or artificial price hikes.
I don't think you fully realize how that technology would be better off when given to the whole wide world all at once, when compared to giving control over its production to just one private company. Do you see the different? It's a very silly requirement in this kind of research.
~Dingus Mungus
Quote from: lincolninked on August 01, 2007, 11:56:33 PM
The offer is a solid one.Ã, The only thing that is needed is someone with his thoughts set into motion.Ã, Are you that person?Ã, I doubt the three VI's (the first word as a hint is Village) posting above are going to step up to the plate.Ã, Easier to just criticize and make noise.
How dare you insinuate that we have not stepped to the plate. Show us your work in this field and tell me you can match the rapid progress I personally have made. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zEh5slSkefE
We are offered 49% of a patent that someone else retains controlling interest in and 10 mil in prize money. Translation: We get paid to relinquish our right to build it after it has been patented under someone else's name and watch it get swept under the carpet. No thank you. An offer of this type, made here, whether real or fictitious is vulgar, disrespectful and entirely unwelcome. There is only one Village Idiot here. You.
ZFF
Yup good way for someone to pay you out without going too public....Then having the ability to lock up any design that might have the ability to do such a task for god knows how many more years. What a coincidence the meyes patent becomes free source and someone is hoping that it is actually out there and trying to lock it up again....
Dumbest idea I have ever come across.
Quote from: ZeroFossilFuel on August 02, 2007, 07:42:04 AM
Quote from: lincolninked on August 01, 2007, 11:56:33 PM
The offer is a solid one. The only thing that is needed is someone with his thoughts set into motion. Are you that person? I doubt the three VI's (the first word as a hint is Village) posting above are going to step up to the plate. Easier to just criticize and make noise.
How dare you insinuate that we have not stepped to the plate. Show us your work in this field and tell me you can match the rapid progress I personally have made. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zEh5slSkefE
We are offered 49% of a patent that someone else retains controlling interest in and 10 mil in prize money. Translation: We get paid to relinquish our right to build it after it has been patented under someone else's name and watch it get swept under the carpet. No thank you. An offer of this type, made here, whether real or fictitious is vulgar, disrespectful and entirely unwelcome. There is only one Village Idiot here. You.
ZFF
...and I'm still LOL :D
::)
peace
If you look at "lincolninked"s posts you will see little to no input on any subject other than Pointing fingers, MIB threats , Well written sarcasm , BS offers , Stirring general trouble , The "You can't do it that way" scenario and so on ....
Also he has clearly stated that he would never show picture or videos of anything he might find. I strongly believe he is not a builder or a study of any technology . It seems to me he is here for one resign. This he explains very well . He is after technology, not part of it!
If the guy has 10 milion to give away why does he not start his own Lab and take everything he reads here/Internet ,and build it. Or hire people to build it ? Hmmm
What would you guys do If you already had 10 million to give away ,Build a Lab?
It just does not add up..
So I ask the OU Forum , why do you think he is here ?
I for one don't like the guy and have 0 respect and trust for this guy.
Thank you
IronHead
well, 10 mill would buy a lot of R&D. If his sponsor is so willing to front this kind
of cash it seems to me they could form their own venture.
Me thinks he,s just fishing, problem is this part of the ocean has the "oldest" and
"wisest" type of fish, just any ol bait doesn,t work in these waters ;)
Dirt
Ironhead:
You go all over the Internet telling people you are a teacher and you work at overunity dot com. So if you are a teacher at overunity, why then are you teaching others falsehoods and untruths?
I suggest you watch over your own Karma and not worry so much about everyone else's.
If you can build the machine as stated, do so and collect. If you cannot, don't trouble your little mind any further about it. Put up or .... .. as the saying goes.
We have been contacted by several people interested in the project with one gentleman saying he has such a machine.
The psychics are possible. It will however take a focused mind with the desire to conquer a spacific goal.
Remember the X prize? Many thought that was not possible. Just goes to show there are Dick's and there are dick heads.
I have tought my Cell here and I have not claimed it would run your generator nor have
I showen people how to build it for that resign. It is a learning tool. If people go on to run generators and cars with this Cell that is wonderful as I have stated many times .
But never telling them it would in this state or at this level. I have forced nothing on anyone here . The ask me what I have done and I show them unlike yourself. You don't belong here and everyone knows that except you !
Further more I don't go all over the Internet telling this . I am here at OU and on YouTube thats all!
I have never told anyone I work at OU.com . People on YouTube ask for more information about the Cell and I tell them I teach it here and the plans for its replication are here.
You come in here spewing these lies and assumptions with nothing to show. This forum is about creating and the study of new technologies . Not this crap you are pulling. If you lie here what else are you lieing about?
I would gladly vote you off this forum if that was possible. I think most of the people I know here would do the same .
I don't need your damn money or your greed man as I have told you before. So don't even act as if I do. You know nothing about me so you conjure up lies.
IronHead
@Ironhead,
These "freaks of nature" would not attack you if you were not a "true builder". Builders "get 'er dun" and that scares the hell out 'em.
Screw 'em!
An unofficial, forum posted offer like this isn't worth ball sweat anyway. Run a generator with out even a mention of if the generator is loaded or not. Hmm could run a Stirling off HHO easy. HAHAHAHA!!! BS offer if I ever heard one!
@dip$#!+
This knowledge is not for sale - it's free. Get your hands dirty exploring it yourself or keep your head up your arse and shut up.
@grumpy
Righto chap!
@lincolninked
First of all, before you make any offer as you have done, you should have spoken with the moderator and had your bank to contact the moderators' bank to confirm you have the cash.
Like you said, put up.........or.......
Nah.... I won't say it!
Not today. I just got back from vacation so life is good. Managed to do lot's of Tesla reading thanks to Erf. I also saw those old generator stations at Niagara Falls from the Canadian side. Made my day. Plus the beach. Ouuuuuuu.
So Boss, before you come in here like you own the place, let's get better aquainted.
Again, like you said, Money Talks.
Evidence.........
I must admit, your STORY was nice. But your 51% sounded so familiar (money Boss) and your attitude to IronHead really blew it. Didn't sound like you could do justice to the Boys and Girls Club of America. Their standards are surely much higher then that.
So here's a recap for anyone else.
It's actually a good idea but only if Stefan cleared it.
Maximum 30% for the investor with control over expenses under a strict business plan until higher level investments have been secured.
Also, the contest should not be limited to hydrogen.
State what to light, run, pump, or move for how long plus the general criteria for OU demos. The rest is not your concern.
This is an OU open source forum, not a trout pond.
And Boss, keep your cool because here comes the puncher.
The device has to remain open source for perpetuety. Now if the device requires a very very very special component that only can be made in a controlled and precise manner that is out of reach of the general industry or public, then there is your revenue model. But the device stills remains open source for anyone to try to make themselves. Make and/or sell I should add.
Now that's a nice and big favorite clause around this neck of the woods, don't you think?
My First time posting. I've been researching the work of Stan Meyer, and came upon this forum. I heard that Stan's relatives filed a U.S. patent that was granted in 2004 to process sewage waste and create orthohydrogen and or parahydrogen. They have started a company an hour away from me in Orangeville, Ontario to set up sewage processing. It's weird, because the same technology could be used for so many other applications. The patent # is 6,790,324. It might be of help to you.
@"lincolninked"
You can see now that Lies and bashing of the members here will get you no where , enjoy your time off from posting to this forum.
IronHead
We have a job to do, gentlemen. Let us do it with honour and grace, then post till they turn off the web.
Turtle
Words of wisdom. I've wasted too much time here already. The offer, real or not, will die a miserable death. This thread is off my radar screen.
ZFF
Quote from: keithturtle on August 03, 2007, 07:05:06 PM
We have a job to do, gentlemen. Let us do it with honour and grace, then post till they turn off the web.
Turtle
about this thread...
@LastPersonHere
Don't forget to turn the lights out
If I understand it correctly,
www.fuelfromh2o.com
has already these units, but they rather prefer to
sell just the magdrive electrolysers for lower gas consumption.
Regards, Stefan.
.
I think I will win!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8wKscbRvE4
Only joking, but i just did not know where to put this vid, and i didn't want to open a new topic for it.
:)
Hi, i builted a device that does not run on water, actually it only needs a started that can be with a battery or a UPS and once started the one that i have generates aprox 4500 watts, I still have some facts to work on as the overheat, could this be of any interest for you?
@"lincolninked"
I agree with Ironhead ,Hartiburton, and other members that are supportive of this cause.
Bashing people that are actually working on Hydrogen tech does not help you. They are ppl that you should be looking up to, instead of bashing. I admit to making mistakes from time to time, but they were exactly that, mistakes. I haven't started working on anything myself, but I do want to start working on my ideas as soon as I can. I have been working on my designs for my cell and some of the associated electronics like the circuit I have been trying to figure out, and have mentioned in earlier posts.
Rasg,
I sent you a private message.
Hello all,
@lincolninked
Here you have it and safe your millions:
Look at JLNaudin, Bingo fuel
He closed the loop and thats possible to do.
Otto
There are so many hucksters and Disinformationists that try to get you to take your eye off the prize. You don't know when someone is gonna try to make you do something that makes you lose the rights to your ideas.
If I understood my teacher correctly,he said that owning 1% of a pattent is the same as owning 99% when it comes to being able to sell it. He warned us not to ever give up even 1%. He told us that if you were so inclined you could give,sell whatever, a % of the profits generated by the pattent. And Mr 10 mil if your trying to suppress and or control the next means of generating power and this goes double if your affiliated with big oil,burning in hell is way to good for the likes of you. I cant even write, you piss me of so bad. The best place for you is on the end of a rope. Why, other than to control it, would you want to pay anything for something so many good men are working so hard to give away.
My teacher was a US pattent attorney.
Quote from: lincolninked on July 25, 2007, 01:03:59 AM
Nothing gets your attention like cold hard cash.
I have come across a challenge. The winner gets a cold hard Ten Million Dollars (before taxes.)
This is not a joke, this is a serious offer for anyone to make a gasoline powered generator run on water.
Contact me at lincolninked@yahoo.com if you wish to take on the task. This offer will expire in 100 days without notice.
It is a joke, a cheap joke at that, yahoo email?, this guy got ten million on offer and he uses yahoo mail? LOL
Ten million for a device that would be priceless to the world!, this guy is definitely a joke!
Stay with it guys, this is ours, this is for the world and NOT the greedy few!
Who wouldn't like to get 10 million dollars? You could run experiments for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time with that much money, except that may be blood money,. money used to keep this information quiet and under wraps. I still am in total support of open sourcing of this information. Those who don't agree can kiss my a**, and then stick their heads where the sun doesn't shine
Putting out that kind of prize money will certainly have all the scam/con artists rushing to their workshops ;)