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Title: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: Carbide_Tipped on August 09, 2007, 06:26:12 PM
Did he do it?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=umX9V1pMCjI

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cSKRfJ3Ki5k

http://youtube.com/watch?v=etyXl_3GBXs
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: George Jetson on August 09, 2007, 07:05:59 PM
Wow I am eagerly awaiting the verdict. I have heard somewhere that electric items don't really use or consume power and that we just run it into the ground. I wonder if this is a way to eliminate the need for ground thus balancing the energy?
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: dutchy1966 on August 10, 2007, 01:26:29 AM
Could you please describe it as the videos have been removed.....

thanks

Robert
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: jspellman on August 10, 2007, 01:28:56 AM
Hmm, Ive been watching Johns' videos, but what happened to this one? it says "video has been removed by user" would someone who got to see it care to fill us who didn't catch it in?? thanks!
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: jonnydavro on August 10, 2007, 05:31:05 AM
You can find one of his video's here
  http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GSwHO0aXba4
                                          regards jonny
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: Unicron on August 10, 2007, 06:15:26 AM
He removed te video's of the bad comments he gets i guess, but his newer vids are more interesting annyway.
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: IronHead on August 10, 2007, 06:25:11 AM
He is pulling the liberated electrons off of the Cell and charging the battery . Once one battery is charged he switches to the next and the charging continues.This not only  puts some power back into the source but also keep the HHO from combining back into water.

Stan Meyer was also doing this.

I have  been doing this some what via the Meyer process and the Blue Zone.I am not charging a battery. I have been dumping the power in to a DC motor only to get the electrons out of the Cell Container to keep the HHO from combining to water.

IronHead
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: Droppen on August 10, 2007, 07:29:04 AM
yep, i saw all 3 videos, and 4 huors after he uploaded the 3rd, he started deleting them, so i grabbed what i can and uploaded it.. i know i dont have any right to do that, but i care more about free energy than the things that i'm allowed or not allowed to do..
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: ZeroFossilFuel on August 10, 2007, 07:50:52 AM
@IH - Where is your pickup coil in that coffee? and how is it arranged?
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: Carbide_Tipped on August 10, 2007, 08:00:51 AM
The one video he pulsed a car headlight with 3 12v batteries pulling 2.5 amps. Two of the batteries were charging at a good rate about 1-1.5 volts and the third only dropped .3 of a volt in 8 min.

I assumed the setup was battery A+ to C+ | A- to B+ and pulling power off the - of b and c. He didn't show the setup of the 3 batteries, But in a previous video he showed 4 batteries with this setup.
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: Droppen on August 10, 2007, 08:08:43 AM
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Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: GraffixWB on August 10, 2007, 10:43:03 AM
does anyone know how he had his bateries hooked up? I'd love to give this a shot. HHO is going to be the future
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: JamesThomas on August 10, 2007, 12:05:41 PM
Quote from: Droppen on August 10, 2007, 08:08:43 AM
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All the batteries in this pic (A. B. C. D.) are facing the same direction with the negative terminals closest to the viewer.

D (+) is connected to A (+).
A (-) is connected to B (+).
B (-) is connected to C (+)

This leaves terminals C (-) and D (-) open. Even though these are both negative, these are the terminals connected to, as one is slightly more positive than the other.

He also had a switching mechanism that every 60 seconds would alternate C. and D., so that B (-) went to D (-)...and I imagine C (+) went to A (+). Though I'm not sure about that last part.
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: rapttor on August 10, 2007, 12:13:51 PM
This is how the batteries are connected from what I know, and you connect the cell across the two negatives on the two batteries to the right.
-rapttor
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: ZeroFossilFuel on August 10, 2007, 01:21:10 PM
Guys, I'm sorry but this is pure folly.

In the above diagram, if each cell is 12v, all you've got is 24v across the negative terminals of C & D. When drawing current cells A, B & C are discharging, D is being charged. The charging energy consumed by D is evenly shared by A, B & C. The only thing accomplished is that you might overcharge D. I don't care where the electrons go. Energy is not being gained. It is being lost to heat.
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: IronHead on August 10, 2007, 02:37:09 PM
The energy from the batteries is being burned off as heat ,
But the energy from the electrons that are freed from the Hydrogen and Oxygen bond is a completely different source and can be used . I am not going to say that there is more power coming out than going in . All I know is this process does help  from Hydrogen and Oxygen  trying to re-combined  back to water. There is alot of electrical energy released in the form of negative electrons here. This is similar  power you might see in a Fuel Cell and that seems to be enough to run an electric car motor.

Thats all I have to say
IronHead
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: strapped9 on August 10, 2007, 04:16:57 PM
oops delete me
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: czarwright on August 10, 2007, 05:21:28 PM
Hello People, john piss me off big time with this one. he said prove me wrong i was going to find out who was right but he pull it down to fast. how can you learn that way. he also pull my comments about vee and wm projects. i told him i would help him but not now! you can't just look at volts but amps too. how many time does a battery 12volts but to low of amps to start a car (cheap load test) I would say look at battery heat, he could be burning its plates. maybe by switching them fast they don't burnt up. a amp/hr tester can tell you.
if i find out it works. it will be posted here does.

Its about time i joined here. you only learn by your mistakes. and it helps to see other people   mistakes  so know why.  Thanks for the site so we can talk about this.   
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: Carbide_Tipped on August 10, 2007, 05:50:38 PM
I found the video in my cache.  8)
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: George Jetson on August 10, 2007, 08:23:11 PM
I asked him via email he said

I have split my projects up and the videos on the batteries are under "Energy Clear"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmqrOZZ7Xc

someone should let him know about the neg electrons.

Iron head is this why your like 36 volts? ? ?
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: IronHead on August 12, 2007, 12:19:06 AM
 I have just gotten the best results for the specific Cell I have posted here with 36 volts.
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: d3adp00l on August 12, 2007, 01:35:45 AM
No connecting the batteries the way he did does not chargethem back up, they will run down it just takes 4 times longer because of the increased amp hours. yes the voltage goes up on the others but over time the system will begin to come back down. This will begin to happen when the lowest battery is discharged and the other batteries try to balance it.
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: PulseFuelNerd on August 13, 2007, 12:06:05 PM
Hmmmn... some are charging, some discharging, who knows? slow drain or OU?

@IH did not understand your posting on the abundance of negative electrons. Pls More.

The trick seems to be switching these quickly, well at least as fast as you can. (with amps and heat limitations)
With each switch- are we not producing a free voltage spike?
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: rice on September 02, 2007, 03:23:11 AM
overunity does exist but this is not it.  this is a battery bank. no energy is being created.  i hate to be negative but i am an expert in electronics and i have built hundreds of battery banks.  this is pure hogwash.  please continue working with hho but not this
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: leeroyjenkinsii on September 09, 2007, 01:35:28 PM
I can't tell whether John is an honest person or just someone trying to make a quick buck.  I hope it works and I hope he says how he's doing it.  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: leeroyjenkinsii on September 11, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
Comment Pending Approval.  Now that, to me, is odd.   How do you make the darned thing??  I would think that someone who really wanted to help humanity would actually explain how it was made.  Otherwise, we got nuttin but another potential scammer!!!
Title: Re: John Aarons: This Could Be IT "0" point
Post by: RunningBare on September 11, 2007, 10:31:32 PM
Sorry guys, I'm on board with ZFF on this battery arrangement, I cannot see any possible use, see picture below...

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