I was thinking today that if we made a group and dedicated differnet experiments we can find out what the true formula is for HHO. I think we need to make a post and put the knowledge we know and discuss and then have a list of proofs the show how to make it. I know you all are unique and have a unique perspective so that is serious opertunity for us to over unite and make this a real. I mean we all have tried so many things and reproduced results. We all know what didn't work so I really think if we assemble we can make huge strides. I mean some Joe cell info has good results on cells. Meyer had some great hidden ideas. Imagine if Joe, Stan, Daniel , Brown , all had the internet and were working together. Seems like some have had sucess but bad things happened to them. So I was thinking well if we all figure it out then what are they going to do?
Let me know what you think?
i think its a great idea, but someone's have to lead eh?
Well that is 1 out of 60 that checked this link out. Glad that your liking the idea. Also great work on grabbing that video. Aarons is not doing this for the people he has some other motivatation. But to each there own. I just feel we are all in this together. Well what are you experimenting with at this time? I am not the leader and really don't think we need one. I mean this is just logics not music so we can all lead.
Some catagories of hydro
12 volt high amps using Electolite
high voltage low amps using electrolite (very little)
Pulse system to try to find some renoncenc ( I am not convinced)
Pulse syetem with blocking diodes and transformer to break dilectric of water
So I will sum up my encounters
I find that tubes for low voltage works very well that is what I am currently using. I have 1/4 inch spacing but running enough electolite to cross over the 4 neutral plates. This seems to lower the heat of the cell that is why I am doing it. Also I am using SS outside container that is being cooled with 3 dc 12 v fans (very low amp fans) It seems like you get quite alot of flow with tubes as seen in joe cell experiments. So I figure that if I can eliminate this high heat and low flow with a stand alone cell it is going to be practical in a car.
I would like to be able to show a LPM but these things are not real. I mean if you don't have the vac from the car on the cell then your just not going to get the results at Higher amps. I feel this method of low voltage is just not the anwser. Never the less I think it is very valuable to us to learn from. I am putting my cell in my car again in a few days and will try to get a mileage report soon. I need to set a base line and right now I am trying to tune my car the best i can to see what she has with out HHO. Then I will tune with hho and see the results. I have a 100 amp alternator now so I think it will work out.
Let me know about your setup and what your intereseted in.
Currently low voltage practical gas mileage is what i am doing. I want eliminate my dependance on the oil companies asap.
My next project is going to be to See if I can generate using the blocking diodes and transformers with low amps.
either way I want to get a power generator running on this so I can start to get off the grid.
sorry to disappoint you, but i'm not working on anything right now, i'm 18, and studying electronics.. i'm just hanging around and doing my best at helping people. my dream is same as yours, I want eliminate my dependance on the oil companies asap. i'm new to HHO and zero point, and i will start experimenting with them soon as i get out of debt.. with lead i mean someone that contacts everyone and keeps track of unanswered questions and progress. the biggest problem with this study has been the fact that before the internet, no one was able to share their discoveries. for example, a large number of teslas inventions are still being kept secret.
This is a great idea. though without structure i doubt we will get anything done. We will get the same info that is sprawled out in various topics in these forums. maybe a new project/results topic will do. every new built idea is recorded in a thread. no posting until you have watts measured as well as output.
yeah, i could host it, i own a server, www.steptail.com, and i could code all the php scripts. all i need is someone that knows more about these things than me, someone that knows what questions to ask.
George, T650-52 is the transformer core that you will want
http://www.micrometals.com/pcparts/torcore7.html
$31
Now we are moving. I will look into that transformer. I have a microwave outside not being used? Ok so I think the idea of having a people dooing section is a good idea. Watts of consumption is a good idea. I wouldn't restrict it to just one measurement. MPG increase is good measurement not totally acruate but it shows your trying. Even lpm isn't bad. If any one wants to setup a structure please do. I just know there has got to be a way to lay out what we know thus far in a couple pages and then have only posts by people experimenting. This should pave the way for group experiments.