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Title: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 12:01:14 PM
hello im william the innovation station is a company i formed for my work  i have a unit that will be for sale shortly that will be able to take houses off grid i have all nessary information to make this  i have built most of it already there is 1 thing left to build but i am poor and can not afford to compleat alone so i make an offer to those that have an intrest in somthing like this

i had a person who was going to fund me but i have given up on him i can not wait forever so now i post serching for someone who has money to waste for a short peorid of time this is already proven to work  so it is a matter of build it make it work and devolep a plan for mass production the thing is it is all open source that was my choise

im looking for 5000$ us to finish the prototype and show to the investor an ou machine with huge output and yes i can do this but im poor and money holds me back it is just so sad!!

if you are intrested in buying or  helping to compleate this you can contact me at

innovation.station@hotmail.com                       

a list for sales is now forming   

the thing is they will not be cheep to build or buy  the materials must be of the highest quality money can buy  so  i can currently give demos of my turbine wich is the prime mover in this unit it is finished to the point of testing

if you want to know more contact me

william
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: tinu on September 02, 2007, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 12:01:14 PM
i had a person who was going to fund me but i have given up on him i can not wait forever so now i post serching for someone who has money to waste...


My suggestion: quickly go back to that person that has ?money to waste? ;) and ask again, this time very, very nicely. Who knows? Miracles are said to happen?

But then, as a second thought, you?re going to deeply disappoint him/her when you?ll open source the final product. Or you?re not going to open-source it? Maybe I misunderstood you?

Well, regardless the choice you?ll make, take good care not to be trapped in the ?fraud? picture.
You?re getting very close to the frame?
And it would be ever sadder than your actual situation?

Frankly,
Tinu
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 03:45:32 PM
i dont have to go back to him when he realizes  he will contact me!!!

OPENSOURCE yes it is already

the ou componment will only be bought from me or others that will sell it it will not be made public and can never be duplicated properly ;)

so build the machine yourself if you have the skills  order the part that makes it happin you can not build this part it must be purchesed for all machines from me or the inventor

i gave my work all away i can not do the same with his work that is wrong sorry all but i have respect

this is no fraud   but  think as you will

william     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  funny if you all think this can not be done~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


what is this worth?  i know right now 10 000 will not build a perfect machine the scale i have here at home and playing with currently there is a great deal of work involved in 1 machine and a great cost  but if it runs for a year or even  6 months nonstop with no repairs all is good agin almost nothing to break but i waste all my time getting my point across cuz it is a fraud!!!! im poor that is my only problem right now


Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Iosh on September 02, 2007, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 03:45:32 PMOPENSOURCE yes it is already

the ou componment will only be bought from me or others that will sell it it will not be made public and can never be duplicated properly ;)

so build the machine yourself if you have the skills  order the part that makes it happin you can not build this part it must be purchesed for all machines from me or the inventor
Am I the only one who thinks OXYMORON when reading this?
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 04:46:20 PM
you know what perhaps you all might not get this from me after all

maybe it should be a big puzzel like the tpu and all other current ou devices

the funny thing is i want help this world and this world does not want to help me

maybe i will wait now 10 years make my billions then give it away  ;)

is that the right way?

isteam!!
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 02, 2007, 06:15:59 PM
G'day all,

Quote from: innovation_station on Today at 04:01:14 PM
Quotenow i post serching for someone who has money to waste

Freudian slip?

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 06:49:51 PM
i will now clear this up money to waste as in you will not get it back cuz it will be spent on marerials to build the overunity componment

then the person can see the unit in operation and i will build them a simple unit that works or offer them a perecntage in the project

all on paper of course if it does not work the overunity componment you then are still in half with me on my turbine wich i have already finished and payed for all by my self


so how do you lose the only loss here is me giving more of my work away for next to nothing but people it does work why would some one waste time telling me things that are not true where i got this info i a verry trusted source his work works and so does mine

i say no more im sick of it!!!

you all will lose not me

i already have all i need i can build this at  any time in my life when i have more money

none of you can build this cuz you do not know how to    and pardon me if for some reason some of you do know how
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: wattsup on September 02, 2007, 08:27:14 PM
@innovation_station

Build what? Is it already described here on the forum?

Look, don't get discouraged because someone did not write you a check a minute after you posted. Geez. There is a certain method to the madness.

So keep your cool.

Also, there is nothing wrong with giving out your device to open source and supplying a key component that nobody could make anyways. If people can make 90% of it and buy 10% of it from you, this is perfectly good and even a smart way to both build up some financial strength so you can help more people and to ensure that the key component is always made under the strictest quality control.

My business motto is that "My past clients count on us to make present profits, so we will be there for them in the future". Makes the world go round.

Keep your focus. Don't blow this on a whim.

Hey are you in Canada, near Montreal?

You are maybe not aware of the business dynamics. You have a learning curve in business to build up if you want to go through with this in the manner you have chosen.

And stop saying you are poor. A popular motivator once described when he had lost all his shares in a major computer company downfall said to his wife, "Honey I lost everything, even our home", and she answered "No, you still have your brain and your will.".

Question: If what you are lacking is some physical mechanism, gearing, or other components, maybe contact some local industrial suppliers and speak with them about your idea and if they would be interested in providing some components for a share of the action. Most local businesses have money, and if you are at arms length to them, this is alot more comforting to them to know you are there locally. Plus some businesses could lose 5 grand and not even blink.

Again keep your focus and I will give you one sentence of positive affirmation that if you repeat twice a day, your problem will soon be solved. Here it is so tap into this OU.

"Thank you all powerful for the financial help and for the success of my invention all which I HAVE RECEIVED in a just and perfect manner".

Always say it like this so it is as if it is already done. No pleases, no give us (give us means you don't already have it and that is what you are reinforcing - bad, same as when you say I am poor - cause that's what you will get), only thank you for you already having it. This is powerful and you need it. So do many others but that's another story. Always finish it with "in a just and perfect manner" so no bad things happen to others you may know or love for you to get your help.

Anyone else, I know it sounds crazy, so don't bash me about this. It works. It's called positive affirmations. Not negative enforcement like the Lords' Prayer which is dead end negative and they've been repeating it for centuries. Ouch.

All the best.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: lancaIV on September 02, 2007, 08:28:46 PM
Hello innovation_station,
the question is:
what will be the KWH-electricity price , generated by your e-machine !

My own research and the material input calculations after some years experiments defines
the actual  max-price: 1 EURO-cent(0,01 EURO)/KWH for small generators.

Is your machine-concept competitive ?

Sincerely
              dL

p.s.: When russian natural gas is sold by 55 US$ per 1000cbm(=11000KWH energy-aequivalent),
       the russian cogeneration price,plant amortisation included, is also 1 Euro-cent/KWH !
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Iosh on September 02, 2007, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: wattsup on September 02, 2007, 08:27:14 PMAlso, there is nothing wrong with giving out your device to open source and supplying a key component that nobody could make anyways.
Of course there is something wrong! You can't call it open source without disclosing it completely, can you?
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 08:48:28 PM
thank you wattsup

your words help me to think clearly

@iancalV i can make it for even more money have absoutly no electrical in put required to operate so really the price /kwh can be 0

this can be achived with the use of an overunity magnet motor to replace the electrict one that presureizes the water b4 the turbine uses it

really the sky is the limit i can even remove my turbine and make an all in 1 unit motor generator like the muller motor generator his input on 1 of his units was 38 amps out put using only 5 pairs of coils was just under 400 amps  i perfer my turbine because of its high speed if build proper i would expect upto 1000 amps at the proper speed but agin this is a guess  but a verry good one


william
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: lancaIV on September 02, 2007, 08:52:11 PM
Hello wattsup,
I hope that your daily nutrition is not only based on Dale Carnegie lecture !

Our actual business is ridiculous,has nothing to do with real,
science-oriented, economy(onced,upon a time:HARVARD/HUMBOLD):
it is out of border !

So do not tell about  knowledge of "common" business behaviour,
normally this actual business behaviour will end like in Germany
the after "Weimarer Republik" Party !

I have heared,the US-Miliz give the Bush-Administration only more 3 months !
US-Miliz~ Frei-Korps( Dorfsche Generals-Luder)

S
dL
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: lancaIV on September 02, 2007, 08:59:31 PM
innovation_station,
there is not: energia for gratia !
You have to calculate the price for each KWH based by the financial  machine investment !
You have to spent for materials/mechanical transformation costs/transport et cetera !

So,what is the price for each KW-installation !
Over 250 Euros/337,5 US$ per KW,20 KW range  ?

S
  dL
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 10:51:44 PM
nope  no idea on the cost it will pay for itsself in a short time

sell the extra back to the grid!!!

so now you have free electricty and a monthly income a bad investment

i guess so

finally it is resolved

investment opertunitys are gone !!!

get ready all my marteials are being ordered this week and are to be shiped to me so soon enough a video for all to see

half of my project has just been sold!!!

;D now you will all see

william
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Mannix on September 02, 2007, 11:24:42 PM
A sad day in the quest for understanding...a very,very sad day.

adds....now this!
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Grumpy on September 02, 2007, 11:39:32 PM
Quote from: Mannix on September 02, 2007, 11:24:42 PM
A sad day in the quest for understanding...a very,very sad day.

adds....now this!

Mannix,

I agree.  'Tis a sad day.  What's next?

We all choose our own path - and reap the whirlwind that comes with it...

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@ IS,

Very bad Karma, IS, very bad Karma...

You need money to build a prototype - that may or may not work.  Gonna have to pony up the goods.  People do not buy into "ideas" - they buy into "results".

Top it all off with that possible actions of the opensource community - who may  give the world an energy device for free in the near future - and you have nothing of value.





Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 11:53:00 PM
@mannix

what is ment by that??

a sad day turned out great

thank you

this is not the tpu nor anything to do with it but im sure you know that. the output from this unit will far exceed the tpu's output as i think

this can also be scaled to any size imaginable and still operate on 1500psi even if the turbine was a 10' circle but the costs are great to build proper for high speed and high output but this is the price you pay for free power  i can also scale it down to a tiny unit  we are our own limit nothing else limits us

william


@grumpy this is far more than idea lol!!!   it was an idea 1.5 years ago now it is reality i have only minor changes to make to my prototype to achive overunity!!!  a picture as it sits right now i have no reason to dubt the builder and inventor of the overunity componment no one has

you all herd of trust? i trust i have not been misled and if it does not work then back to my original that is overunity and i can build im almost finished it too the copper alone i have invested 1000$ in that generator and it still needs more machineing but i wont quit      try me

lets find out if it works my investor would not say yes if he did not have the money to loose he knows the risks but regardless he now owns half of my turbine too just as i said

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: acp on September 03, 2007, 03:51:50 AM
no, lets not exaggerate, there is not $1000 of copper in the generator in the picture.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: tinu on September 03, 2007, 05:09:19 AM
Quote from: innovation_station on September 02, 2007, 11:53:00 PM

i have only minor changes to make to my prototype to achive overunity!!! 


Oh, well... ::)
These are the ?things that make you go hummm??
Tinu
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 07:53:46 AM
Quote from: acp on September 03, 2007, 03:51:50 AM
no, lets not exaggerate, there is not $1000 of copper in the generator in the picture.

i did not mean the 1 in that picture 

the n machine 1  there are 4    7.75" x .5 " copper discs and yes i have spent 1000$ on those 4 discs 40lbs of copper plus the machine time to make them round they must still be keyed and more cutouts made but i will build it too and show you all


because i can this is why i do this

@grumpy and mannix

to help this world out is a sad thing to do isint it  for me to keep what i have is a sad thing to do to share with this world is the right thing to do!!!

i have chosen the right thing to do                 insted of  wealth and greed

i share as i have with all of my ideas and inventions and i will continue to do so

isteam!!                                               OPENSOURCE thats what it is all about




Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: acp on September 03, 2007, 08:58:36 AM

Quotei share as i have with all of my ideas and inventions and i will continue to do so

isteam!!                                               OPENSOURCE thats what it is all about



I confess, I'm completely confused.... Can you clarify, didn't you just say that one part of your machine, the overunity part, will have to be paid for?
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 10:26:39 AM
yes that is correct it is not my work so i will not give it away YOU MUST BUY THIS PART IS THE ONLY WAY!! build the rest buy the proper part form me at a low cost the lowest it can be built for   unless you have an overunity componmenet that you want to release to the world for free

yea i didnt think so

ist

if this is not good enough for some here then i guess you must waite for the next guy to come along and give you all what you want!!

or figure it out on your own or go build a tpu  :o
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
as soon as i compleate it there will be a video on here showing the output

i am building a pair of componments and will do tests on them to make sure beond a dubt they are overunity i know they are but seeing is beleaving

so all of you keep your money  i will show you then get your money ready

and prepair to be set free from the big moneyies that control us!! well our power any ways


william  a joke this is not!!

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Grumpy on September 03, 2007, 11:02:26 AM
So, let me get this straight.

This is not your work.  Judging by the walls in that picture - very nice wood - looks like cherry - way more expensive than drywall - that is not your home and not your pictures. 

So, you have pictures of someone elses device and some knowledge of how it works, but you have not built one.  At the same time you claim there is another part not shown that makes it OU, which you can make and will sell but not share even though it is not your invention.

So, boiling it all down, by some twist of fate you have acquired someone's technology and now wish to profit from it, and at the same time preach about "open source".

Suppose the person that developed this decides that you won't profit from it and releases it to the world?  Even anonymously, the impact would be great.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: wattsup on September 03, 2007, 11:12:54 AM
@innovation-station

I am also confused.

Please understand that when you disclose your device, it is better to disclose everything, all parts and functions. People then should have the option to try and make it all themselves, or to purchase the whole system from you or to purchase any sensitive parts from you. Whatever. But when you disclose, you should disclose everything.

Please also understand this. You will not be able to control worldwide what happens to your device. Some people may build it and sell it to others, others may build it and use it themselves, while others may buy everything or major parts from you. This is part of the process and trying to control the whole worlds actions will only drive you crazy and make you spend energies where they are not useful.

Please also note that if the "secret part" remains a secret, then your disclosure will not work. What I was saying before is this and I repeat.

If you elect to go open source, you should disclose the complete device and its total workings. This is the only way. Now in this disclosure, if it comprises a part or parts that are not easily manufactured by people because of technical or capital equipment that is required to make the component, then you can sell the component or all the parts unassembled, or assembled. But the important thing is to divulge the complete system and all the parts and let the world decide how to propagate its usage. Economics will decide this. But please know that anyone making your device will not want to do so if there is a secret component that puts the user out of total control of the device. What happens should you decide to stop making the components or provide replacement parts?

The idea behind Open Source is to remove the burden off the shoulders of the inventor and let the world handle the economics of propagation.

Now if you feel some people in the world will steal your device and make millions with it, I can only say that regardless of what you do, how you protect yourself, if someone wants to really do it, they will. Why fight it. Just leave it be. It will then be their responsibility to provide the servicing and parts to their users and if they fail, they will feel their users wrath.

Yes I am repeating, but I think you are not understanding this.

Also, I saw a picture, I can't remember in which thread, of your copper wheels, You are right to say that those are definitely very expensive.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Grumpy on September 03, 2007, 11:21:45 AM
I have seen that maple leaf somewhere else.

I'll see if I can find it.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: z_p_e on September 03, 2007, 11:22:19 AM
Wattsup,

Perhaps you have implied this in your posts, but I don't think so. It is worth making a distinct point about it, as folks tend to assume "all is well" and overlook the all-important COP measurements.

First and foremost, there is no point in disclosing anything, be it open source or not, unless the discloser can demonstrate without a doubt, that what he intends on disclosing exhibits COP>1.

Darren
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 11:23:49 AM
grumpy

yes all you see in those pictures is all my work  no the walls are not cherry lol  it is pine stained red run on a 45 deg i work construction and have for 10 years so yes that on the walLs all my work too

the unit that makes it possible IS NOT MY WORK  i have consent to use it for profit but when profit comes i must pay for it ok

it was my choise to make this so you all can build it except the ou part but this does not have to be done only this way overunity can be achived a number of ways with the setup i posted

come on guys most of you worked on the tpu this aint that hard  ask your self why it will work and what must i do to make it work??

it aint that hard

i  really hope he does make it public cuz then you can build it all and i wont have to for you eather way the goal is to get this out there for all as soon as i can "they" have taken enough money from us over time for what tesla wanted to be free

and now teslas dream is reality

FREE POWER FOR ALL

william 

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 11:30:10 AM
I CAN NOT RELEASE HIS WORK  PEROID!!!!!!!!

GET IT

AND I WILL NOT

IF IT WAS MY WORK YES I WOULD GIVE IT TO YOU

BUT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND THAT WAS IT NOT TO GIVE THIS OUT

OK

WILLIAM  if you really want to understand it study the bill muller motor generator and how he achives ou it is the same thing only easyer
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: z_p_e on September 03, 2007, 11:40:38 AM
It sounds and looks like the drive mechanism is via air-drive inside the canuck-rotor chamber.

Does the missing part go in there, or on the generator section?

Is the ou mechanism then from the air-drive, or the generator, or a combination of both?

Darren
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 11:44:39 AM
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Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 11:57:26 AM
go to half baked  read the thred called

the most efficent machine ever built  there you will see the unit and all about it

the ou part only pertains to the generator  ;)


this is not ment to be a game  but a gift for this world
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 12:22:40 PM
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Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: acp on September 03, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
So if the overunity part isn't going to be disclosed, and as far as I can gather it is some kind of rotary generator, what's the point of your water turbine contraption? You are now saying that the water turbine part isn't overunity, why bother with it at all? Just connect the undisclosed overunity generator you have to an efficient electric motor.  any additional parts in the chain ie your water turbine circular saw blade is only going to make it less efficient.

I really get the sense that you don't mean bad, but that you just don't get the whole picture.....
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 01:00:14 PM
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Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 01:08:35 PM
GUYS   IM DONE WITH THIS CHAT!!!!


IT IS AS I SAID THAT IS IT................... 


@STEPHEN CAN YOU CLOSE THIS THRED

keep on pushing me you will never get it  the inventor has confirmed this will never be public too many fools in this world that can not do as they are told 

so i will build the componment and sell it to those that want it  that is how it will be

this is final

ist

there are no pattend infringments
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 01:35:45 PM
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Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: wattsup on September 03, 2007, 01:45:10 PM
@Stefan

I agree with IS, better to close this thread and leave it at that since z_p_e is also right to say that this has to be proven OU.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 02:06:07 PM
luck has nothing to do with this!!!

and i dont need luck to susceed

i need to do as i am told

the story is now over build it try it figure it out   others have and will continue to do so
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: acp on September 03, 2007, 03:29:43 PM
So that's it with open source then? A few people on the forum ask for some clarification and you throw it all to the wind?

I think this thread has been a great lesson in how not to attract investors! 

Anyway, I thought fishing for investors was a no no on this site?

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 03:39:59 PM
well i guess so

i have now more investors than needed

please have respect and i will continue to post as i compleate this project

i have shared all i can at present and i will share a working unit as well but not how you get the ou out of it cuz i cant deals i have made govern this

stop pushing please

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: helmut on September 03, 2007, 04:34:39 PM
Quote from: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 03:39:59 PM
well i guess so

i have now more investors than needed

please have respect and i will continue to post as i compleate this project

i have shared all i can at present and i will share a working unit as well but not how you get the ou out of it cuz i cant deals i have made govern this

stop pushing please



Hello IS
Please stay with us.
Many many unknown readers are on the Thread.Dont listen to those,who ask to deep in your Books.
Just continue your fine work and go on to proofe that you are able to finnish,what you have initiated.
with big respekt
helmut
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: acp on September 03, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
So if the overunity part isn't going to be disclosed, and as far as I can gather it is some kind of rotary generator, what's the point of your water turbine contraption? You are now saying that the water turbine part isn't overunity, why bother with it at all? Just connect the undisclosed overunity generator you have to an efficient electric motor.  any additional parts in the chain ie your water turbine circular saw blade is only going to make it less efficient.

I really get the sense that you don't mean bad, but that you just don't get the whole picture.....


the speed for the input that is why  if i can get 30 000 rpm for 15 amps and and there is nothing to slow it down then how much power can i make from that speed? and how many generators can i hook up to 1 turbine ????  5 10 15 20 how many ???  answer that how many ??  say 1 generator can pull 400 amps and it sounds easy to get 400 amps muller did 400 amps at fairly low rpm with one of thease so how much power can i make ??

btw some of you smart guys here can you do some math for me?  how many horse power  will 30lbs have at 30 000 rpm ??

thank you

isteam!!
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Grumpy on September 03, 2007, 08:22:37 PM
Then deliver the goods.

You are now the expert on atoms and elements.

Show us the money.

Information and understanding are two different things.  You know it works but nothing else.

This makes you worthless to your investors - dumb ass!

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 08:33:58 PM
LISTEN  im not going there 


you are  wrong grumpy



ist
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 09:12:18 PM
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Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 09:23:20 PM
i can tell you this it has not blowen up yet

and it has spun verry verry fast

so i will build from nano carbin fibre if i have to

there is no limit for me it will spin the fastest on earth i know this i do not need the weight any how well not for the generator anyways ;)

watch my video you will see

i have no idea just how fast it spun

is
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 09:46:01 PM
 :)



Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 03, 2007, 10:31:53 PM
just leave it alone


i will not even finish this now

end of story


some of you know why

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 03, 2007, 11:16:36 PM
yeah it would probably be best to close this thread....

and no this is NOT open source! just because you show how the other parts work does NOT mean this project becomes open source!  >:( Not until you  disclose everything from scratch!

peace :)
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 03, 2007, 11:17:09 PM
Sorry, its just that I?m really really really safety conscious.
And it sounded really dangerous. 30,000 rpm!

stay safe, and never give up.

take care, :)
Cliff,
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Grumpy on September 03, 2007, 11:40:21 PM
"The power of "mind" has no limitations."
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 04, 2007, 01:11:48 AM
this will not have to spin fast to be efficient

but the faster the more efficient

as bill says we must cancle all forces acting on the the rotor so it can be spun with almost no work done  get it

1 more magnet than coil {easy turn method} so that is a huge part of this unit from there it is the cores we use to achive overunity


just think about it!!!!!!


ist
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: acp on September 04, 2007, 03:36:57 AM
There is a fundamental flaw in your reasoning, I would recommend reading an introduction to physics. Learn the basic quantities involved in motors and generators and how they are measured.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 04, 2007, 07:56:47 AM
Quote from: acp on September 04, 2007, 03:36:57 AM
There is a fundamental flaw in your reasoning, I would recommend reading an introduction to physics. Learn the basic quantities involved in motors and generators and how they are measured.

go back to free engery school

you have no idea!!!!!


somthing i forgot to say about my investor he is all about opensource and fully suports it  ;D   money is not at all our goal ~~~~~solutions are!!

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: Humbugger on September 04, 2007, 08:03:18 AM
Quote from: acp on September 04, 2007, 03:36:57 AM
There is a fundamental flaw in your reasoning, I would recommend reading an introduction to physics. Learn the basic quantities involved in motors and generators and how they are measured.

@acp

Are you snorting white kittens again?  Just wondering.  Couldn't agree more with your comment!  I've never seen posts with more self-contradictions spaced closer together.  is holds the record, I think!

Humbugger
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: acp on September 04, 2007, 08:50:45 AM
@innovation_station

Here is quite a good concise article on mechanical power and electrical power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_%28physics%29

@Humbugger
You should try the kittens,  for best effect you should use a rolled up 500 Euro note, I usually take one out of the stack of notes I always have handy  for investing in free energy contraptions.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: midnight_blue on September 13, 2007, 07:10:29 PM



From Feb, 2007

http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1495-100.html

ROTFLMAO


Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: argona369 on September 13, 2007, 07:40:52 PM
RATFLMAO
thanks for the link ,

the smithsonian story was way to funny!

"We are particularly
interested in hearing you expand on your theories surrounding the
Trans-positating fillifitation of ferrous ions in a structural matrix that
makes the excellent juvenile Tyrannosaurus rex femur you recently discovered
take on the deceptive appearance of a rusty 9-mm Sears craftsman automotive
crescent wrench."

Quote from: midnight_blue on September 13, 2007, 07:10:29 PM



From Feb, 2007

http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1495-100.html

ROTFLMAO



Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on September 13, 2007, 08:01:37 PM
ah yes the early days..........


lol


but you know what i deal now with even more stupid people funny thing most will never see and the ones that do wont speek of it

lol!!

who is the joke on ?    not me !!

isteam!!   perhaps it is now more like "go on take the machine and run"  cuz you dont want it anyways  ;D
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: infringer on March 30, 2009, 09:36:09 PM
IST I am curious if you ever finished this machine?

I would love to see your youtube video for kix...

Take Care

Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: MrMag on May 01, 2009, 09:59:53 PM
Infringer

I think this OU device has ended up like all of his other "Proven" devices. He has been building thousands of different things yet I have never seem 1 completed anything from him. Just look at his store. The only thing he is selling are joule thieves. His answer to OU.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on May 04, 2009, 10:43:13 PM
well i been away a while   :P  mr maggs ...  are we gonna get into it ?  lol  ;)

so yes i can build what ever you like .. if you know what you want ..

and yes now i can fully explain the entire thing ...  :P

so yes i still seek funding ...  sory i will not expose this unit on overunity.com ....  i need to keep 1 in the pocket..  8) 8) 8)

if there is some one out there that wants to learn what i have im willing to teach .. in person only..  also i will be  when i find an investor  selling my units ...   i will have self runing motor generators motion and motionless designs ...   they will self run at a point but require a battery to start them ... for the first 5 min ... or less also im working on a solution to this or to cut back on the inputted power

the IST! NEO MOTORGEN  ;)

IST
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: MrMag on May 07, 2009, 10:46:26 AM
Sorry, but at this time I don't think there is nothing to get into. You just have to look at your past history. One time you say that everything you do is open source and then in the next breath you say you won't show everything. When it comes to your projects, you say you know they work and you will have then for sale on your site but you never show a completed item with input or output readings. I can list a few if you like but I think you know what I mean.

On the other hand, I do wish you well on your new project and hope it turns out to be what you think it will be. But you will need to show some accurate input and output readings if you want people to take you serious.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: markdansie on May 07, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
I do hope your new project is successful. i once wrote to you re helping out finacially and you ignored my email. So I guess you are still seeking some funds for your projects.
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: innovation_station on June 03, 2009, 04:25:02 PM
WHO WANTS WHAT .... 

IM SELLING INVENTIONS FOR PRODUCTION ...

THEY WILL BE SOLD 1 AT A TIME

I WILL MAKE NO LIFE LONG DEALS ...

I WILL TAKE A ROYALITY ...



IST  WAKE UP HU-MAN STICKS FOR SALE SOON   

AHHHH  YES MY WAND ....  ;)


I COULD GIVE THIS WORLD SO MUCH MORE ....  BUT YOU ALL WANTED TO MOCK ME !! 

LOL

LAUGHT AT YOU NOW !! 

CUZ YOU ALL KNOW MY SH!T IS REAL  8)

DID SOMEONE SAY QUANTUM FONES ....   HUMMMMMMMM.....   TIME TRAVEL MACHINES TELEPORTERS INVISIBILITY ANTIGRAVITY ...   THE DEVINE MIND!!   HUMMMMMMMM

WHERE YOU AT ...   2 LIGHT YEARS BEHIND ?!?!?!?!

IST!
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: gadgetmall on June 03, 2009, 11:44:39 PM
@IST . I need a TPU that works and Produces Wide area EMF pulses . I want to Test it and see if i can Disable any electronics device .I'm Close in that i have made a Disrupter but it needs more power to destroy the circuit in them but it runs nicely on 1 volt .I need it Compact and portable . I'll help with the Osc's if you know how to tun that TPU you Build . 

Gadget
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: ATOM1 on June 10, 2015, 09:46:03 PM
Money is the key to root all dreams if we were to share a common unity among us ! I offer a common unity ownership contract to power the global grid ! As the technology I have mine in fact I have 9 free energy systems all running government funded and all ready to go... The problem is the sharing to many want to go it there way or alone this brakes up any common ownership and than the fear that someone else will  copy it hahaha

Men are like a pack of dogs throw in the bone and its a fight to the death hahaha We need not free energy we need a way to own a future that will own nothing more than our dreams. Why stop at free energy I am building my stem cell grow bank hahahah My wish is that the bull shit stops here !

I have a plan but you wont want that as you to have a plan hahahah when we become a one body we become powerful very powerful yet fear will weaken any power that we could build and share..

YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER ME ! YET YOU ALL WILL FORSAKE ME TRY AND BRAKE ME YET I OFFER A ONE BODY A ONE PLAN A ONE TECHNOLOGY only because the spirit in me is also in you !

Regards

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Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on June 12, 2015, 11:35:42 AM
United we stand, In fear we fall.
That should convey my vote.
peace love light
Title: Re: The Innovation Station seeks investors/partners
Post by: ATOM1 on June 12, 2015, 08:10:41 PM
I like that one in fear we fall hahahah common ownership and a centre of excellence where we can build everything regenerate our bodies build space ships and go play with ufos ... That's the deal And if I die I want to evp my tex message hahah why not ???? Take the death out of it and we begin to own something very special ...

I have a plan

ATOM 1