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not sure if this was posted but here you go :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T41_fkVfFNI

I believe this was posted, but it doesn't really work.  He starts the device at the beginning of the track where there is no pull-back from a magnetic track in front, as would be in a loop.

Here's his other one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch9X0KqQP5o&mode=related&search=

Kinda similar to this v setup, but who knows if its perfectly level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyQ5--E6LAk&mode=related&search=

     Is off topic but sure would like to know the music in the background.

thaelin

Hi All,
I have just joined in response to a comment on Youtube.

I will have the motors available in 2008.
I uploaded a video to Youtube some days ago, of the first mock up to test one set of magnets. These are a set in a bundle not one magnet, as I bend the gauze that is wavering between either flipping one way or the other, in this way I can divert the gauze in any directing by a trigger magnet that nudges the main bank to repel the opposing pole that would normally attract. This achieves 60 mounds of thrust for 120 mm and the rotor is drawn into the next set. In the mock up I use one set for the demonstration as it is obvious the slight resistance to bring into the power position is between zero and 3 pounds depending on where I set it. For experimental purposes only, I set it at 1 then 2 then 3 pounds as the output increases exponentially.

I will do another Video today with a close up of the scale.

Business wise I will be inviting investors in 2008. First I have to order a 2500 KVA generator from China and I set it up in the machine shop with the unit generating power into the grid.
In Australia the return is around 4 cents per kilowatt hour, I expect 100 dollars per hour per hour return per unit.
I will only enter into a partnership with individuals or groups, and they will have to sign a non discloser agreement and become shareholders in each venture, which is to supply power into the grid.  This means the group can then on sell the same to investors in a pyramid structure where all can share in the expansion of the product.
Any investor or group can in turn invite investors in their own down line. They can do the same and in this way anyone who joins at the top level can share in all future expansion with a small percentage down the line as their line of investors grow.  This way, all can share and prosper. This way anyone big or small investor can participate.  This is the only way I will do it, and this protects the device via design rather than patent if the governments refuse a World Patent. 
Thus far I have attempted to patent it here in Australia, however the Australian Patent Office declares it is impossible, and will not consider it point blank.
Governments do not want over unity period.
All details are on CAD programs and can be easily duplicated anywhere in the industrial world.
Naturally I have taken steps to dump these into the public domain if it is necessary. All plans and manufacture procedures are safely stored away so no action against me can prevent public disclosure if the conditions warrant it.
The power is derived from a new understanding of the Fibonacci effect.
Regards Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall.

G'day all,

And where can we find this video of yours on Youtube Mr. Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall ?

Pity you don't mention that. I would love to see the Fibonacci effect. Would make a welcome change from Aether, Moebiusstrips, Lead out theory and all that boring old stuff.

Hans von Lieven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4NDrPQ2rA
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_pszg03f8

I was asked to post a Youtube url, the first is the original the second is the scale to show the power on one magnet arrangement.

I built this unit in March as a test bed and kept it as is for posterity, since then the stainless steel unit is in production. Once Ihave it set up on a generator and hooked to the grid I will show another video.

Cheers  Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall

G'day Brian

Thanks for sharing this with us, Keep us posted

Hans von Lieven

Thanks Hans,
as you would understand, this is the break through, its based on the Fibonacci rotation of gauze within the magnet.

Harold Johnson and Joe Newman independently had the idea some years ago.
I spoke to Mr. Newman in 2002 and he told me he was of the opinion it was to do with the Fibonacci, a I had my own idea how to track that same motion, I expected to be able to tap is like a continuous flowing magnetic spiral, I imagined it as a river of sorts and somehow there had to be a way of inserting a paddle so to speak, not so easy to do however.

Then Harold Johnson demonstrated it on a computer program and that led me to discover a way to switch the flow, a diversion for a moment then flow with it, so I finally cracked it.

There are other over unity motors, the Perendev for one, problem is no power and he wants a fortune for a small set up of 25 KV, what the world needs is power at  a low cost for the unit. 

My design enables a system of a long shaft 3 inch diameter and stack the Stator housing side by side for as many as desired, then move the rotor stack into the stator stack with a worm drive actuator.

This way the design can stack 100mm per motor therefore adding to it for as much HP as required and not have to worry about dividing the perimeter into 3 parts as Johnson had done. 110 deg 115 then 120 I don?t have that phase problem.

As always research and development money is tight, I wanted to solve future problems before I invested and allow for a much bigger machine several meters diameter.  The aim was to keep the rpm down and a high speed at the magnet face, I have devoted a great deal of thought to solve the problem before building it and it is now scheduled for August 8th 2008.

Regards Brian.

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 13, 2007, 01:01:05 AM
There are other over unity motors, the Perendev for one, problem is no power and he wants a fortune for a small set up of 25 KV, what the world needs is power at  a low cost for the unit. 
Regards Brian.

And where did you get the idea that the Perendev magnet motor is really working?
Show me any real proof that supports your statement.
And by "proof" I don't mean your own assumptions. Show us real hard conclusive facts!!!

Perendev is like many others out there.. Promises for years on end... always looking for new "investors" ...  cancelled demos.... always going to have production units ready by the end of the year.... etc. etc..  blah blah...

By the way, look at what perendev is now pushing......

http://www.perendev-power.com/health_g.htm

if what the world needs is a cheap source of free energy, then why not opensource the design?

Quote from: acp on September 13, 2007, 11:58:47 AM
By the way, look at what perendev is now pushing......
http://www.perendev-power.com/health_g.htm

This is real a scam alert and the final nail in the coffin for Perendev.
Any company involved in "free energy" while trying to push health rings,
pyramid power and similar crap is to be considered not trustworthy.

There is no real pictures of their magnet motor system, just drawings.
And they still use the many years old video for download. 
If they really had a working system they would of course make a new convincing
video to boost sales. By now they just look corny.

The only thing Perendev is selling is vapourware !

Don?t ever put any money into this company !

I don?t understand, why Switzerland?s Netjournal has featured Perendev so much
without at least seeing any prototype...
They probably have fallen for Brady?s "vapourware" stories as had Sterling D. Allan before...

Hi all,
Yes Perendev is a scam, on behalf of a friend of mine, I sent in the paperwork to become the distributor in Australia, he wanted 10,000 EU and then said that he could not supply a unit until June, I replied we were only interested if I could fly to his factory, see a working unit, have it placed on a ship and then the payment would be released, No reply to that question.

He had also said the price was going up due to the magnet suppliers hike in price. At that point he was quoting 65,000 Euro.

He had said he had orders for 60,000 units and could sell for me 1000 per month, we were to set up a factory in Australia and start manufacturing. He added a company in Austria was going into production and would be supplying in June.

I spoke to Brady on the phone and he told me he had 1000 emails a day from people wanting the 25 KV unit. I also had him quote me for a 1000 KVA unit and the price was 4.5 million Euros.

I sent the papers to the address on the application and they came back, had been opened and marked not at that address. Overall it was to make sure my friend was not ripped off, and ironically was the reason why I looked into the over unity design myself.

Since then I have had a woman who I had met 3 years ago at an options seminar,  contacted me. She wanted to come to my house and have a chat about how I was doing with the options?  I told her it was pointless as I had not bothered with it, as it was a scam. She replied and still wanted to get together, I replied fine come for dinner. She did and spoke most of the night about options, stocks and showed various charts. As the evening drew to a close she started on about my magnetic over unity design and I should register with Col Tom Bearden. She said via the web site it linked to a group that had been established to make sure new over unity designs made it to market  as there was 16,000 scientists and investors determined to get any genuine over unity design off the ground, offering protection for the design and had mega dollars to invest.

Bearden was a Colonel in the Pentagon for 30 years, it is the Pentagon that puts a stop to anything that might endanger the oil business, and Bearden must be yet another front to stop development. He being a colonel would be tied up with the secrecy act and could never do anything contrary to the Pentagon.

So the point is, how did this woman know I was developing a magnetic drive, she also added that like my design Col Bearden was working on the switching of polarities to reverse normal like pole repelling and unlike poles attracting, which was at that point in time, only known to myself and defiantly not public knowledge.  She had to have been sent to spy out what I had been up to therefore was my phone bugged, was my emails monitored and therefore was there a real concern that what I had achieved was genuine otherwise why bother at all?

I had to assume it was because she had been sent, and yet had no way of knowing I was developing it, therefore it was obvious it was known to these covert groups and as such forced me to go public before I had intended.
She added that they wanted the technology protected in the event I would be killed and the technology die with me. Was that a death threat?

Putting all the facts together, this woman had talked to me at an optionetic seminar when I got up for a coffee, she befriended me, then 3 years later contacted me to talk options, then without the slightest mention by me, she starts on about the motor I had designed suggesting the Tom Bearden people. She had with her various magnetic patents to show me.
For this reason I have sent the design to various manufacturers all over the world with pieces of the design and with one phone call can bring them all together and have it go free to the world.

Cheers

Hi Brian,

I?d like to say that I appreciate a lot your experiments. The videos are very convincing. At one point you mention something like ?you?d understand it if you were a physicist? or something very close to it. Well, I have to say that I understand it, but hopefully you can provide some more details. That?s because my understanding is quite limited so far (I hope it is actually completely wrong) and it would be resumed in a way that probably does not fit your understanding and our expectations for free energy.
Here it is: indubitably, there is a much larger torque in one direction that in the other direction of rotation. You prove it beyond any question. However, this is a similar behavior with that of any mechanical sprocket. When rotated in one direction it will go almost freely; the other direction will resist up to its failure. (There are more similarities though, like the energy stored in the sprocket spring/ magnetic field, which at one point is delivered back to the shaft, but these are mere details). The main problem is that I can not see any energy gain here.
Can you explain it?

Tx,
Tinu

Hi Brian,
many thanks for the infos so far.
Does your unit only work in this big size or
could you also scale it down to a table top desktop toy ?
If it also works on a smaller scale, why don?t you just build 3 smaller units
and go for the overunity prize and the other prizes out there ?
Then you don?t need all the hazzles with setting up all
these manufacture plants and this way your units will
get more known much sooner !

Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

Well, this is the first time that I heard Bearden  etc are Anti-free energy. Now in this field you just can't trust anyone seriously.
FE scenario is full of hoaxers, scammers, over enthusiastic idiots, inventors sitting on their inventions, inventors dying and burying their secrets with them but never telling anyone, govt and mil killing people.........the list goes on and on. Its all sad sad sad.

Once you reach overunity, the only way to protect yourself and give it out to the world is by open sourcing it. Why the fuck do people want to patent? It does nothing at all. It secures nothing. Why can't you earn by mass manufacturing an open source device and providing support and inventing and improvising it? How difficult is it to get rid of greed when you know it means nothing but failure ?

A free energy machine will throw away the capitalism anyway, there is no use running after money.

Sorry, I vented my frustration here but its true that people never get it.

If he can get more force in one direction than the other, then he has solved the magnet motor.  I still can't see how it works incorporating the Fibonacci effect.  Could you explain exactly how it all works here in this forum, or are you seeking to make some money off this?  You say in the video you are bending or distorting the magnetic field without mechanical means, could you explain it in more detail?

Heh omega the selling power to the grid and getting 100's back is one of my dreams also, but, really its survival and not being knee jerked by energy crisis etc,is my main motivation,yea,if everyone had their share they all would basicly be millionaires,if you can't get a constant power machine which uses no fuel then solar or wind are a option,being charged to batterys.

when i get my credit card and pin etc in a couple of days time, i will be able to get income from the internet (internet marketing etc,etc,etc,),which i will spend doing experiments,

Well Omega,

The trouble appears to me that most of these suppression stories are complete and utter bullshit. If I had a device that would change the scene I would try to make some money out of it, but I would also make sure that, if they did knock me off, the world would get it for free, just to frustrate these arseholes.

I am certain I am not the only guy that thinks like this. Why then does nothing ever surface, except vague stories??

Forget it, the REAL control lies elsewhere. Unless you knock something valuable up in your backyard you will not find funding for a project the establishment does not like. It is that simple.

The guys out there screaming suppression all have their hand out for cash from unsuspecting idiots.

Those guys have been collecting oodles over the years and are STILL ALIVE !  That should tell you something.

Funny, isn't it??

Hans von Lieven

Hi, I think I can. With magnets if we bring two south poles or north poles together they repel, so the enrgy required is the same as as the repulsion. What I have done is remove the repulsion as the magnets are brought together, then as they pass each other the repulsion is switched on and this is why the movement is very powerful away in the direction shown. In this case there is no energy used up bringing the magnets into the 'fire' position.

I thought of it as a stream of magnetic gauze that I could take advantage of like placing a paddel in a river. This was what I had in mind when designing the layout, to regard it not as a repulsion but a flow.  To acheive that I allow the south and north poles attract then by the trigger I invented, once the poles are aligned, the poles act as if they are like poles and repel.  The power is such that the next set is entered and they also repel the rotor and so on.  Thus far the latest unit spins up so fast I have to retract the rotor something like the Howard Johnson motor, and in this way can vary the power out put.

Hope that helps
Cheers Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall

Hi Brian,
many thanks for this info.
Do you use any electronics and coils as the helpers to achive this or is this purely mechanic ?
Or do you use any iron shield plates with it that slide into position ?

G'day Brian and all,

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 15, 2007, 12:44:14 AM
What I have done is remove the repulsion as the magnets are brought together, then as they pass each other the repulsion is switched on and this is why the movement is very powerful away in the direction shown.

If you have pulled this one off it's THE trick of about half a millennium. It'll make Einstein and Newton and a few others look silly.

This one Ive got to see.

Hans von Lieven

"the trigger I invented", that's the crux of the matter. Tell us about this trigger. Everything else is beside the point.

Well if what you say is true and you have found a way to nullify the incoming resistance, then congrats.  I've been wondering for so long how that could be achieved, but never could think of a way.  Are you gonna give away the secrets?  No problem either way, but it seems like you made something that very few could do. 

Hi all,
Glad to hear so many of you are aware of the scams and government cover ups, I felt the same way as all good men do, discover a better mouse trap and what happens, its either stolen by large corporations or  the military declare it a threat to internal security.

After observing the behavior of scientists in several universities where my wife worked when required, she had gained a reputation as a woman who could be trusted and a very agile quick mind with a memory for details and solving proplems.

Her position had us invited to various university functions. It was at these functions I mingled with the elite of the science world and I can say without any fear of contradiction, they all think the same way. I concluded their appointments fit an agenda
a process of selecting men and women who fit in with some hidden ?type?
unknown to the individual.  Having spent many hours talking to these men and women, and with my wife?s intimate access to the computers, I had an insiders seat so to speak.

Over unity impossible, speed of light constant, Big Bang correct, Newton, Einstein, men walked on the moon. As far as I was concerned if they were remotely intelligent they would be able to separate the bullshit from reality, I had concluded all of the above were wrong decades ago. These scientists and professors fitted into a mold, they were wrong, very intelligent at one way of thinking yet stupid.

Then a long distant phone call to Joseph Newman and he told me the difficulty he had encountered and there was no way he could get a patent for his magnetic drive.
I had phoned him from my nephew?s home in South Yarra Melbourne.
When I arrived home, my wife asked, had I been talking to a man in the USA about a magnetic motor?  Stunned I said yes. She said a friend of mine, Morgan Jenson had been in his office and the phone rang, he lifted the receiver and then recognized my voice. He listened in, in total 5 times and he phoned my home looking for me telling my wife. I arranged a meeting with him and he confirmed the details.
Obviously I was tagged by the hidden surveillance some occult behind government.

My nephew was shot dead on October 23rd 2003.

It was then I seriously gave a lot of thought to solving the over unity possibility to get even so to speak, sick to my stomach at the stupidity or gross evil behind the world and
being a man who thinks independently from all of the above accepted university holy cows, this is what I did.

The reasoning is as follows:- The iron core of the Sun is a magnetic drive, it rotates at about the same rate as the moon orbiting the earth, the solar system is moving northward at 43,200 mph and it is this movement that draws the planets around the Sun and the moon around the earth and we have Einstein?s grooved space theory on the garbage pile.

All life from plankton to tree ferns are driven by the Fibonacci, it is what its all about, the sea breaths so to speak in tidal motion and from women to coral the life cycle is dependant on the Moon. Why? Iron core Sun, iron core earth and iron core moon. Blood hemoglobin, iron core of life?  It is reasonable to assume the magnetic gauze of magnets is also driven by the same forces, waves of magnetic fields separated like light into two forms, light a wave and a particle therefore what is gravity, what are magnetic fields?
It was this notion that light in another form is gravity and concentrated into magnets. I then concluded the gauze is similar to light which is time separated into opposing moments i.e. no time events, intermingled so that the wave is time  and has to have a rest point in the equation so that like light the particle is a no time event the wave is in time and is held in balance by the same Fibonacci effect.

Therefore one can speculate that the peak of one wave can fit into the ebb of an opposing magnet and as such the rotation of the fixed magnet in a stator will draw in and then push away the rotor magnet. It became a matter of stretching the gauze to allow the otherwise compressed norm of a magnet gauze to ?fit? into the stretched gauze of the opposing magnet and in this way it is then controllable. It is then set to snap one of the magnets fields back into the compressed normal state, the effect is an instant spit out from between the ebb of the other which remains stretched. Think of it as a rubber band with knots tied along its length, they are all close together (normal state of rest) but stretching the band moves the knots apart and then we bring another stretched band to mesh nto contact and the knots on either fit into each others stretched space. We then switch off one side and the shrinking bands bring the knots closer together and propels the other band in the directing of the collapsing field.

In reality a magnetic field has no time involved so we stretch it into time then snap it back out of time.

I realize that the occult power behind governments are oil addicts, crazed with power and money,  so you all can rest assured I have taken steps that this technology will not be patented and will be available to all. At this point in time we can start applauding for the weapon used against us has been destroyed, they just don?t know it yet. Don?t think for a moment they can outsmart me, the check mate move has been made and Elvis has left the building.

Brian.

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 17, 2007, 03:22:39 AM
Hi all,
Glad to hear so many of you are aware of the scams and government cover ups, I felt the same way as all good men do, discover a better mouse trap and what happens, its either stolen by large corporations or  the military declare it a threat to internal security.

After observing the behavior of scientists in several universities where my wife worked when required, she had gained a reputation as a woman who could be trusted and a very agile quick mind with a memory for details and solving proplems.

Her position had us invited to various university functions. It was at these functions I mingled with the elite of the science world and I can say without any fear of contradiction, they all think the same way. I concluded their appointments fit an agenda
a process of selecting men and women who fit in with some hidden ?type?
unknown to the individual.  Having spent many hours talking to these men and women, and with my wife?s intimate access to the computers, I had an insiders seat so to speak.

Over unity impossible, speed of light constant, Big Bang correct, Newton, Einstein, men walked on the moon. As far as I was concerned if they were remotely intelligent they would be able to separate the bullshit from reality, I had concluded all of the above were wrong decades ago. These scientists and professors fitted into a mold, they were wrong, very intelligent at one way of thinking yet stupid.

Then a long distant phone call to Joseph Newman and he told me the difficulty he had encountered and there was no way he could get a patent for his magnetic drive.
I had phoned him from my nephew?s home in South Yarra Melbourne.
When I arrived home, my wife asked, had I been talking to a man in the USA about a magnetic motor?  Stunned I said yes. She said a friend of mine, Morgan Jenson had been in his office and the phone rang, he lifted the receiver and then recognized my voice. He listened in, in total 5 times and he phoned my home looking for me telling my wife. I arranged a meeting with him and he confirmed the details.
Obviously I was tagged by the hidden surveillance some occult behind government.

My nephew was shot dead on October 23rd 2003.

It was then I seriously gave a lot of thought to solving the over unity possibility to get even so to speak, sick to my stomach at the stupidity or gross evil behind the world and
being a man who thinks independently from all of the above accepted university holy cows, this is what I did.

The reasoning is as follows:- The iron core of the Sun is a magnetic drive, it rotates at about the same rate as the moon orbiting the earth, the solar system is moving northward at 43,200 mph and it is this movement that draws the planets around the Sun and the moon around the earth and we have Einstein?s grooved space theory on the garbage pile.

All life from plankton to tree ferns are driven by the Fibonacci, it is what its all about, the sea breaths so to speak in tidal motion and from women to coral the life cycle is dependant on the Moon. Why? Iron core Sun, iron core earth and iron core moon. Blood hemoglobin, iron core of life?  It is reasonable to assume the magnetic gauze of magnets is also driven by the same forces, waves of magnetic fields separated like light into two forms, light a wave and a particle therefore what is gravity, what are magnetic fields?
It was this notion that light in another form is gravity and concentrated into magnets. I then concluded the gauze is similar to light which is time separated into opposing moments i.e. no time events, intermingled so that the wave is time  and has to have a rest point in the equation so that like light the particle is a no time event the wave is in time and is held in balance by the same Fibonacci effect.

Therefore one can speculate that the peak of one wave can fit into the ebb of an opposing magnet and as such the rotation of the fixed magnet in a stator will draw in and then push away the rotor magnet. It became a matter of stretching the gauze to allow the otherwise compressed norm of a magnet gauze to ?fit? into the stretched gauze of the opposing magnet and in this way it is then controllable. It is then set to snap one of the magnets fields back into the compressed normal state, the effect is an instant spit out from between the ebb of the other which remains stretched. Think of it as a rubber band with knots tied along its length, they are all close together (normal state of rest) but stretching the band moves the knots apart and then we bring another stretched band to mesh nto contact and the knots on either fit into each others stretched space. We then switch off one side and the shrinking bands bring the knots closer together and propels the other band in the directing of the collapsing field.

In reality a magnetic field has no time involved so we stretch it into time then snap it back out of time.

I realize that the occult power behind governments are oil addicts, crazed with power and money,  so you all can rest assured I have taken steps that this technology will not be patented and will be available to all. At this point in time we can start applauding for the weapon used against us has been destroyed, they just don?t know it yet. Don?t think for a moment they can outsmart me, the check mate move has been made and Elvis has left the building.

Brian.

just in case you delete your reply ;)

- edit -

we have waited too long for this...glad we found each other, now teach us master! free and open source is the only way to get through us as students and teachers.


thank you.

Hello Brian,
I have just watched your videos and it looks great. I had thoughts about being able to effect magnetic flux with some kind of wave - vibration - sound - something but I didn't know what. I would like to understand what you are referring to in regards to the gauze. Are you being metaphorical or are you refering to gauze as in hospital wappings or in the electronic field  that effects CRT's?

If you have any need of support in Western Sydney let me know.

Regards,
Hammertime

Interesting stuff.  From what you said, it sounds similar to the visual representation of Ed Leedskalnins magnetic current theory.  I will be awaiting patiently for more information on you're device.  I got a stack of neos, rotors, and bearings from my failed attempts.   ;D   I've pretty much given up on steorn.  Sometimes I think leedskalnin was right that at certain grid points on the earth produce different effects, and perhaps steorn trying to do a demo in another region, changed how the device operated.

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 17, 2007, 03:22:39 AM
The reasoning is as follows:- The iron core of the Sun is a magnetic drive

Very wrong. The sun does not have an iron core.

The Sun is, at present, about 70% hydrogen and 28% helium by mass everything else ("metals") amounts to less than 2%.
This changes slowly over time as the Sun converts hydrogen to helium in its core.
Taken from http://www.nineplanets.org/sol.html

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 17, 2007, 03:22:39 AM
All life from plankton to tree ferns are driven by the Fibonacci, it is what its all about, the sea breaths so to speak in tidal motion and from women to coral the life cycle is dependant on the Moon.

The nature is not driven by Fibonacci. He was just the guy the dicovered the fenomena of certain patterns in nature.
There is nothing mysterius of these patterns. It's just people that tends to mystify them because they need to believe in somekind of divine supremacy.

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 17, 2007, 03:22:39 AM
Why? Iron core Sun, iron core earth and iron core moon.

Wrong again.
The Earth has a large iron core, but the moon does not.
Read for yourselves at http://www.psi.edu/projects/moon/moon.html

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 17, 2007, 03:22:39 AM
Blood hemoglobin, iron core of life?  It is reasonable to assume the magnetic gauze of magnets is also driven by the same forces, waves of magnetic fields separated like light into two forms, light a wave and a particle therefore what is gravity, what are magnetic fields?
It was this notion that light in another form is gravity and concentrated into magnets. I then concluded the gauze is similar to light which is time separated into opposing moments i.e. no time events, intermingled so that the wave is time  and has to have a rest point in the equation so that like light the particle is a no time event the wave is in time and is held in balance by the same Fibonacci effect.

You are babbling your own imaginary theories without any credibility whatsoever.
It cleary demonstrates you haven't got a clue about magnetic fields and their part of nature.
No magnetic field from any planet or star reaches out to another planet.

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 17, 2007, 03:22:39 AM
I realize that the occult power behind governments are oil addicts, crazed with power and money,  so you all can rest assured I have taken steps that this technology will not be patented and will be available to all. At this point in time we can start applauding for the weapon used against us has been destroyed, they just don?t know it yet. Don?t think for a moment they can outsmart me, the check mate move has been made and Elvis has left the building.
Brian.

If you do manage to make a working magnet motor I will applause you. But please don't think for a minute that there are forces willing to kill you for this.
Once another source of energy is discovered and publicized the whole world will congratulate the inventor.
There are many ongoing projects around the world in search for new energy. And they are not being shoot or shut down.
This is serius and well known attempts. Why should any company feel threatened by a small time inventor that's involved in a perhaps impossible task?

And why should the energy companies like to kill a new source of energy. It does not make sense. They would of course produce new cheap electricity
and sell it for the same price as they are used to and then make even more money.This applies to the oil and gas companies as well.
Instead of buying and importing expensive oil they could just set up a plant and produce free energy which they could sell for lots of money.

But again. If you do succeed to make a working magnet motor you are a hero, sir.

It's obvious that he's not going to show you how his "device" works. The question remains, what is he doing here?

G'day all,

Remember when I said:

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 11, 2007, 10:27:06 PM
I would love to see the Fibonacci effect. Would make a welcome change from Aether, Moebiusstrips, Lead out theory and all that boring old stuff.

I am still waiting to see the fabled Fibonacci effect applied to magnetism, life, the universe and everything.

And there was me thinking it was 42. *

Hans von Lieven

*/   Source: Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Ergo,

you appear to be very weak in history and banking.

The Middle East was divided up during WWI mainly by USA, Britain, and France.
The day after WWI ended, the British military invaded Iraq and took possession of it.  When necessary, the Brits invented the idea of being the first to drop poison gas from an airplane to brutally put down Iraqi rebellions against their invasion and occupation.

Oil is free energy.  From 1918 until 1958 each and every barrel of Iraqi oil was free energy; not one single dime was ever paid for it.  Recently more than 2 million Iraqis have been murdered for oil.  Hundreds of tons of atomic bombs have been used, spreading depleted uranium nano-sized dust all over the planet.  DU has a half-life of 4.5 billion years.

1.5 million Indonesians were massacred in a major campaign of repression intended to secure US, British and Dutch oil interests.

If you do a profound study of worthless fiat money and the necessity of central bankers to buy dollars in order to buy oil, you will realize that America does not pay anything for oil; it is free energy.

Asking why there are so many being murdered for power and money makes no more sense than asking why was I born a boy instead of a girl?  Fact are facts.

And why do those in power insist on spreading DU poison all over the globe, giving themselves cancer and their children genetic defects?  Because some people love power and money so much that they can be classified as totally insane.  Insane people do not think logically nor intelligently.

Don't ask stupid questions, just open a history book, and open your eyes.

Regards, Earl

Quote from: Ergo on September 18, 2007, 03:08:39 AM
And why should the energy companies like to kill a new source of energy. It does not make sense. They would of course produce new cheap electricity and sell it for the same price as they are used to and then make even more money.This applies to the oil and gas companies as well.  Instead of buying and importing expensive oil they could just set up a plant and produce free energy which they could sell for lots of money. 
But again. If you do succeed to make a working magnet motor you are a hero, sir.

What can I say.

At the time there was no other "free energy" source than oil. And most of it was located in the third world.
Of course they had to go and fight to take control of the oil. There was no other "free" alternatives.

But, what if the energy could be produced completely for free anywhere on the earth within the same timeframe of history.
Then there would be no point of going to war and battle over oil.
Anyone could start a company and produce energy. The government would of course try to regulate it by laws in a way that
they could benefit from. But still, the energy would be free and countries wouldn't need to fight over the "free energy".

Of course there would be lots of battles within the countries to get control over the power. That's the properties of mankind.
But today, when we really need a new and clean power source (and cheap), the energy companies would love to have it.
They would not try to shelf it. They might try to keep the intellectual property as long as possible for themselves but once
it was possible to get free energy, the rest of the world would follow the same recipe and make their own stew.

Quote from: Earl on September 18, 2007, 06:36:09 AM...DU has a half-life of 4.5 billion years....

You do understand that the longer the half-life, the more stable and less radioactive a substance is?

I see this number all the time, and all it proves is how stable and non-radioactive DU is!

Quote from: Ergo on September 18, 2007, 03:08:39 AM
If you do manage to make a working magnet motor I will applause you. But please don't think for a minute that there are forces willing to kill you for this.
Once another source of energy is discovered and publicized the whole world will congratulate the inventor.
There are many ongoing projects around the world in search for new energy. And they are not being shoot or shut down.
This is serius and well known attempts. Why should any company feel threatened by a small time inventor that's involved in a perhaps impossible task?

Lol..  Do you really think the energy giants want free energy devices?  Fact is there's no money to be made by selling free energy devices.  Its pretty naive to think people who are making trillions of dollars off crap systems would want to trade that for free energy devices people could easily build themselves, which could supply energy indefinitely.  There's no monthly bill with a free energy device..  Companies don't feel threatened?  Why has Joe Newman been unsuccessful in obtaining a patent after decades.............................???

Quote from: Ergo on September 18, 2007, 03:08:39 AM
And why should the energy companies like to kill a new source of energy. It does not make sense. They would of course produce new cheap electricity
and sell it for the same price as they are used to and then make even more money.This applies to the oil and gas companies as well.
Instead of buying and importing expensive oil they could just set up a plant and produce free energy which they could sell for lots of money.

And what if a device were to surface, in which a person could spend $40 at the store and build it themselves?  Tesla could've supplied us free energy 100 years ago..............PPFFFTTT!!!!

Yes, I do believe that the energy giants would like another cheap energy source.
In many countries the government would also apply laws against owning or building your own free energy device.
They'd want to be able to cash in som money from this. No way it would be totaly free.
And most people do not build any devices whatsoever. They would not build any free energy devices either.
But the giants would have the blessings of their government to build devices kepts in power plants to produce energy.

Think of it. No production cost and maximum income. Of course they would switch from expensive oil and coal to this.
They are not stupid. Money is king and rules.

G'day all,

You are right Ergo, The examples of what you are saying are all around us. Try brewing alcohol, growing tobacco or marijuana for that matter and see where that gets you.

Take tobacco, the seeds are cheap, the stuff grows just about everywhere and needs little care, the perfect crop if you only have a small garden full of the stuff. Big mono cultures have problems, but we are not talking about that here. Grow the stuff without a permit and you go straight to gaol.

You would think with stuff that can be grown for the price of wheat you would not have to pay $12.00 (Australian) for a packet of cigarettes. If it wasn't for the powers that be such a notion would be preposterous.

You think when it comes to free energy those bastards would do something different??

Not F***ing likely.

Hans von Lieven

Quote from: ken_nyus on September 18, 2007, 07:36:01 AM

Quote from: Earl on September 18, 2007, 06:36:09 AM...DU has a half-life of 4.5 billion years....

You do understand that the longer the half-life, the more stable and less radioactive a substance is?

I see this number all the time, and all it proves is how stable and non-radioactive DU is!

No, it does not.  It proves how stupid and gullible some people are.

Your statement makes me wonder if you ever got past Kindergarden in school?
I have heard some pretty stupid things in my life, but this tops them all.
You are incapable of understanding the concept of radioactive decay.  Not to worry.
The Russians didn't understand either.  The kept trucking their radioactive waste to a depot.  With time, it grew and grew and grew, and what was a small mountain slowly became a big mountain.  At one point in time the entire mountain became critical and blew up in a low-yield explosion that contaminated a huge area making it unlivable.

I guess that is why so many GIs are coming back from Iraq seriously ill with radiation poisoning.  Of course, the government dishes out the same bull shit as you, so that the GIs have to pay for their medical tests themselves.

There has been an alarming increase in Iraqi women having grossly malformed children, I mean we are talking here about things more like monsters than humans.

The tolerance for any radioactivity ingested into the body is zero.  The nano-sized DU particles easily enter the body via the lungs.  Once inside the body, the radiation ravages the DNA, destroying and mutating it.  There is nothing worse than alpha and beta inside the body since they have such terribly ionizing power.  The DU also enters the food chain and gets ingested this way.

For your information, the longer the half-life, the longer the element/isotope is radioactive.  Only MUCH longer than the half-life will it become stable and stop emitting radioactivity. 

Of all the stupid things humans have done, such as putting lead in gasoline, using DU munitions is by far the stupidest and most insane.  It is so insane, words can not even be found to describe it.

Regards, Earl

Quote from: Ergo on September 19, 2007, 04:14:49 AM
Yes, I do believe that the energy giants would like another cheap energy source.

Ergo, is this a religious faith type of belief or are there intellectual reasons behind this belief?

Why would any businessman change what he is doing, when there is a profit avalanche now?
A businessman only changes when the profits drop too much, but at the moment profits have never been higher.
(Just close your eyes and don't think about the future).

Quote from: Ergo on September 19, 2007, 04:14:49 AM
Think of it. No production cost and maximum income.

Oil companies have no production cost.  Their costs are only virtual.  If I pay $1000 for a barrel of oil, how much does that cost me?  Last week, the US Treasury printed $100 billion "dollars".  It did not cost them any gold or any silver.  So please tell me how much it costs to take a piece of paper and print it with ink?  It doesn't matter whether the ink says 10, 100, or 1000; the cost is the same.  So please tell me how much it costs to buy a barrel of oil for $1000 if I pay for it with a Federal Reserve Note?

Quote from: Ergo on September 19, 2007, 04:14:49 AM
Of course they would switch from expensive oil and coal to this.
They are not stupid. Money is king and rules.

They are not stupid because they buy oil in "dollars" which is in reality Federal Reserve Notes, since the dollar has no longer existed since many decades.  When I was younger, I remember seeing dollars.  I could even take one down to the bank and demand they exchange it for silver.  Then all the dollars disappeared.  All that you could get were Federal Reserve Notes, which are worthless and can not be exchanged for anything of value.  It is a good thing for the oil companies that they still find people willing to take 80 Federal Reserve Notes for a barrel of oil.  It permits them to buy oil for free.

This is really the major reason why Iraq was invaded.  Iraq had started selling oil in Euros.  If oil were to be sold in Euros only, the American economy would collapse since America could no longer buy oil for nothing.  All of the world's countries would no longer be forced to buy dollars and keep billions of dollars in reserve.

Why do you insist on saying "expensive oil"?  Even at $100, even $1000 a barrel, it costs nothing:  it is free energy.  A free energy machine is not cheaper, and can not be controlled so easily as oil, so why change?  If they change, they are stupid, which they are not.  The stupid people are the sheep and the naive.

There is no incentive to change because of profit.  The only reason to change would be environmental damage.  Until now, any change of heart from the oil co.s was due only to positioning to maintain control of energy, whether oil, solar, or whatever.  Now some oil companies are realizing that continuing to burn hydrocarbons is a near-term dead-end road.  As the planet continues to heat up, all forests will burn, oceans will die, atmospheric oxygen levels will plummet, droughts will increase, food crop production will dive, inflation will gallop, Tokyo, Osaka, Paris, DC, New York, London will be flooded.  Melting ice will dilute north Atlantic sea water causing the Grand Conveyor Belt and Golf Stream to stop and plunge Europe and the eastern Third of USA into Siberian temperatures.  Economies will collapse, governments will collapse, anarchy and local war lords will reign.  The only reason oil companies exist is to make money for their stock holders.  Needless to say, in order to pay dividends the arrival of the previously-mentioned conditions must be avoided.  The only way to do this is to stop burning hydrocarbons now.  Oil companies are starting to wake up and change their mentalities, some are still retarded and pay journalists $10000 per story that says global warming is nonsense and non existent.  Talk about pissing against the wind instead of doing something smart.  It has less to do with money than the havoc and suicide caused by continuing to oxidize fossil fuels.  There are signs that the smart oil companies are no longer resisting new energy, but trying to embrass it in order to control and monopolize the inevitable.

Regards, Earl

HI Brian, Earl, Hans and all

Earl, yup, and this man can back up exactly what your saying is real, thats why Iran is next.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/OilSubjugation.htm
Earl, i feel what you said needs to be added to that page above.

Brian, mate i am based in Brisbane, and am a co founder of a non profit organization founded to create security and acquire  resources for open sourced engineers and even the ones dumb enough to think they can market their device in REAL TIME.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org

I feel i can create some security and help mate.

We have many grant foundations which are interested in helping us GRANT this open sourced tech and support the engineers (we are non profit), ATM we are pilot scaling a water fuel cell and an electric motor modification in order to get the ball rolling.

We are also here to create social reform and educate the public about suppression and many other issues. This will be done out of the proposed granted research and development center.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/ResearchandDevelopment.htm

We are due to show our Ravi/Dave/Meyers replication at the Nexus group meeting and many other appointments very soon. Our public un veiling will be to spread awareness, education and also to get the center granted for all engineers. Lets hit them hard mate!

Here is the energy suppression research we have uncovered so far.
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/EnergySuppression.htm

Brian would you object to us putting your story there at all?

Also mate if you need any one local to help in  any way, please consider contacting us, I was asked by a trusted member here to chat with you i thought i wouldn't post it here for ever one to see where we are coming from. Would love to get your Demo's on tap and create a page for you

Here
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RandDprinciples.htm
or

here
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RegisteredTech.htm


We have also been legally addressing all the themes mentioned here
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/Evidenceofconcern.htm

Plus i have been preforming the resident helper and sniffer dog here too and can offer as many services need to help, here is my email too mate if you need to contract me ashtweth@gmail.com

"you can't make money from OU" and "people would make the machines themselves at home"

right, like it happens with most of the stuff we have now? It doesn't. People wouldn't build the devices themselves. Well, some would, most of them would buy the machine. You can buy a PC in pieces and just put everything together, it's easy stuff to do, but how many people actually do that to save money? Most of the people don't, and they wouldn't build their own OU device either. They wouldn't care how it's built, all they would care about is they get free enrgy, so they'd pay for it.

Quote from: vis3r on September 20, 2007, 09:16:56 AM
"you can't make money from OU" and "people would make the machines themselves at home"

right, like it happens with most of the stuff we have now? It doesn't. People wouldn't build the devices themselves. Well, some would, most of them would buy the machine. You can buy a PC in pieces and just put everything together, it's easy stuff to do, but how many people actually do that to save money? Most of the people don't, and they wouldn't build their own OU device either. They wouldn't care how it's built, all they would care about is they get free enrgy, so they'd pay for it.

I built my own computer :D.  Anyways its really about these groups suppressing the technology thats the problem.  Who cares who builds it, or where it comes from, the suppression continues and will continue until we find a design that works and open source it throughout the internet.

I believe the suppression is a myth. There is no government or company thats actively workning on suppression.
It's just not logical. Free Energy is not possible according to scientists and I don't believe they would not take this
fact into account and then spend a lot of money to suppress something that cannot exist. It's Occams Razor.

There always seem to be a tendency to believe in mysterious stories and blaming the government when something
is very hard obtain or cannot be confirmed. It's the same story over and over. Take any event in history that have
the have the right properties to become a myth, like the Kennedy murder or the Moon landing.
Just because someone have questioned the proof it will turne into a myth by many people that just canno't
resist the temptation to believe in a myth instead of being logic and rational.

Well, it's still not to late to find a source of free energy, but once we find it we will become amazed either how
difficult it was or how easy it was to finally solve the problem.

But one thing is for sure. Magnets will continue to intrigue peoples minds by their shere force. Including me.

G'day all,

Not only magnets Ergo. Everyone who has ever dropped something heavy on their foot or has fallen down hard knows about the power of gravity. Some people will always be chasing a gravity powered machine that runs forever on nothing, even if someone were to invent one.

It's a bit like a religion. :-)

Hans von Lieven

Production of energy out of nothing (free energy) has been proven beyond doubt scientifically. Anyone stating otherwise is either uninformed or is deliberately dishonest and deceitful.

Quote from: Ergo on September 21, 2007, 03:06:11 AM
I believe the suppression is a myth. There is no government or company thats actively workning on suppression.
It's just not logical. Free Energy is not possible according to scientists and I don't believe they would not take this
fact into account and then spend a lot of money to suppress something that cannot exist. It's Occams Razor.

There always seem to be a tendency to believe in mysterious stories and blaming the government when something
is very hard obtain or cannot be confirmed. It's the same story over and over. Take any event in history that have
the have the right properties to become a myth, like the Kennedy murder or the Moon landing.
Just because someone have questioned the proof it will turne into a myth by many people that just canno't
resist the temptation to believe in a myth instead of being logic and rational.

Well, it's still not to late to find a source of free energy, but once we find it we will become amazed either how
difficult it was or how easy it was to finally solve the problem.

But one thing is for sure. Magnets will continue to intrigue peoples minds by their shere force. Including me.

Its not the government its groups of individuals who run the planet and decide whats next.  In my opinion most myths turn out to be true.  Most people think aliens are a myth and couldn't exist based on what they read or what some "professor" told them.  I even heard a NASA scientist say traveling to other solar systems wasn't possible and will never be possible based on the distances.  I laugh at that...  Kennedy assassination not a conspiracy?  I laugh at that statement as well..  You have no clue what transpired during the moon landings as well.  There's a lot of junk out there, but there also a huge amount of data on the subject, and anyone with an open mind who cares to look at whats out there will learn the truth.  The truth that theres more unexplainable phenomena than we could fathom.   Were only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

Whether or not an organized group is suppressing this or that is a question which cannot get a direct answer, obviously. Suppression and/or organized shoving down the throat of humanity of stupidities such as the "Theory" of relativity can be felt only indirectly. It's so blatant that those who do it don't even try to hide their efforts. Or someone now will try to object by telling me that, say, the invasion in Iraq was not an organized effort of a group of individuals but was the desire of the nation as a whole. This is just an example.

Quote from: Ergo on September 21, 2007, 04:13:11 AM
Hahahahahaha.!

You are surely one of those people that continues to feed the myth with imaginary facts with no backing whatsoever.
You could learn a thing or two from Occam's Razor.

On the contrary, your statements are with no backing whatsoever. I have proved conclusively that SMOT violates CoE and produces energy from nothing. Learn science first before posting opinions.

The SMOT I've built is a closed-loop SMOT.

Please post the video and the design information.
We would all like to see it here at OU forum.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2733.30.html#msg40090

Quote from: Omnibus on September 21, 2007, 05:50:52 AM
The SMOT I've built is a closed-loop SMOT.

Where can we see it running?

Quote from: Omnibus on September 21, 2007, 05:50:52 AM
The SMOT I've built is a closed-loop SMOT.

Please follow up and prove your claim that you have built a working closed loop SMOT by showing us the video while it's running.
This is the only way for you to become credible and get acknowledgement on your statements.

Quote from: Omnibus on September 21, 2007, 03:34:45 AM
Production of energy out of nothing (free energy) has been proven beyond doubt scientifically. Anyone stating otherwise is either uninformed or is deliberately dishonest and deceitful.

Why do you always come out of nowhere and post this "i've proved it" shit all over again? You're such an attention hore. I think everybody here and elsewhere saw this atleast once, since you post it in every forum thread even those who have no relation to what you spam. If you would find out something amazing, you wouldn't have to spam it around for people to know about it, so calm down and stop spamming it everywhere.

Quote from: Ergo on September 21, 2007, 06:48:08 AM

Quote from: Omnibus on September 21, 2007, 05:50:52 AM
The SMOT I've built is a closed-loop SMOT.

Please follow up and prove your claim that you have built a working closed loop SMOT by showing us the video while it's running.
This is the only way for you to become credible and get acknowledgement on your statements.

@ ergo and vis3r
how do you explain finsrud machine, testatika, rotoverter... and many many more experiments !?!
according to You, does resonance exists !?!

so it is proven, CoE is just virtually proposed guidance for easiness of solving equations... without it we wouldn't be able to put "=" in equations but it is not the LAW cause it is not a FACT and has nothing to do with real phisics of universe.

wiz

Quote from: acp on September 21, 2007, 12:15:42 PM
Yawn........Watch out Honk, He's going to reach out and get you through your monitor...

what is this ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

Quote from: tagor on September 21, 2007, 12:41:01 PM

Quote from: acp on September 21, 2007, 12:15:42 PM
Yawn........Watch out Honk, He's going to reach out and get you through your monitor...

what is this ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

interesting video

G'day all,

Wishful thinking FreeEnergy,

It is obvious the device is driven by a motor concealed inside the box it is sitting on.

When you have a close look at the rotor magnets and their behaviour (by going through the video frame by frame) you will see that the magnets do NOT impart rotation to the device but react to an outside force.

Sorry fellows, someone's idea of a joke.

Hans von Lieven

Can you guys please move your SMOT comments and concerns to the proper forum. I would really like to hear more from Brian Marshall. I hope you guys didn't scare him away.

Tim

Can anyone help me figure this out?  I have tried to replicate this as shown on the video as well as other related videos and I can't get it to work.  Am I doing something wrong? Or is this not possible and some kind of trick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNDT5Ge8YA&mode=related&search=

I would appreciate feedback on this.  Thank you.

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 21, 2007, 06:56:30 PM
Can anyone help me figure this out?  I have tried to replicate this as shown on the video as well as other related videos and I can't get it to work.  Am I doing something wrong? Or is this not possible and some kind of trick?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNNDT5Ge8YA&mode=related&search=

I would appreciate feedback on this.  Thank you.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,973.0.html

Thank you Freeenergy.  I have seen the Billy Mier video as well but not the others.  I will look at them now. What I am attempting is to replicate this using a dismantled hard drive with a post positioned vertically in the center of the rotating platter that has magnets positioned around the circumference.  I then made a ring with a larger inside diameter that has magnets positioned around the inside edge.  The poles are configured so they all repel (like poles) and when holding the ring over the tube I do get some rotation, sometimes several turns but, it always find equalibrium and stops.  I figured on using the hard drive set-up so if successful, I would have an easy way to get "work" out of it because the motor is still attached and while rotating, should put out a small dc current.  the drive bearing allow it to turn very easily.  Thanks again for your response.

Bill

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 21, 2007, 04:48:55 PM
G'day all,

Wishful thinking FreeEnergy,

It is obvious the device is driven by a motor concealed inside the box it is sitting on.

When you have a close look at the rotor magnets and their behaviour (by going through the video frame by frame) you will see that the magnets do NOT impart rotation to the device but react to an outside force.

Sorry fellows, someone's idea of a joke.

Hans von Lieven

Good catch.  You can also hear the hum of the motor when you listen closely. :D

Quote from: FreeEnergy on September 21, 2007, 04:13:27 PM

Quote from: tagor on September 21, 2007, 12:41:01 PM

Quote from: acp on September 21, 2007, 12:15:42 PM
Yawn........Watch out Honk, He's going to reach out and get you through your monitor...

what is this ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

interesting video

Yes it is an interesting Video - but one things for sure, it's not a SMOT, and definitely not built by Omnibus,
because it appears to work. (Though one would like to see the apparatus removed from the bench top to make sure there
are no hidden wires, motors etc.)

Quote from: hoptoad on September 22, 2007, 01:00:52 AM

Quote from: FreeEnergy on September 21, 2007, 04:13:27 PM

Quote from: tagor on September 21, 2007, 12:41:01 PM

Quote from: acp on September 21, 2007, 12:15:42 PM
Yawn........Watch out Honk, He's going to reach out and get you through your monitor...

what is this ?
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg

interesting video

Yes it is an interesting Video - but one things for sure, it's not a SMOT, and definitely not built by Omnibus,
because it appears to work. (Though one would like to see the apparatus removed from the bench top to make sure there
are no hidden wires, motors etc.)

The important thing is that the SMOT I've analyzed proves beyond any doubt violation of CoE through discontinuous production of energy from nothing, independent of whether or not such videos prove continuous production of such excess energy. Engineering achievements such as the one shown in this video, if it indeed is a perpetuum mobile, are very much to be celebrated. It is a very difficult engineering task to do that. However, as I said, violation of CoE has already been proved and these videos only reconfirm this fact and put it in a practical perspective.

Ok, what ever you want. I was just stating that you cant conclude anything from present physics. We live in a non-linear universe, virtual particles are impossible to track. It is not possible to create something to solve this. So basicaly, no one can tell you a smot doesn't produce overunity. I was just agreeing with the smot overunity thing in an abstract way. As you can see, it saved me some typing. ;)

I must agree,
that Omnibus sometimes is using bad words,
but I also understand why he is doing it.

As most people just don?t realize, that the SMOT really works and
is overunity.

How often do we have to explain it again and again ????

There are several videos out there, that show without a doubt,
that the SMOT ball gains energy by going through the ramp.

There is no point anymore in discussion.
The problem still is to get it used.

Nobody has yet build a longer SMOT ramo of e.g. 1 Meter long and
a bigger height difference, so the energy gain is enough to
loop the ball back to the entrance.

Only Greg Watson and Epitaxy had been having looped SMOTs,
but as they did build it so small, in scale, the friction influence was
just too big all the time and the ball sticked after a few cycles to the
track, because it was too much accelerated, etc...

The SMOT really needs a big setup with very precise mechanical
building and very precise control of the running ball,
otherwise you will not get it to loop.

But please stop the flamewar and hammering onto Omnibus.

The SMOT principle works.

I deleted several flamewar posting in this thread.
Please stay ontopic and
take the SMOT discussion into the SMOT threads.
Many thanks.

Maybe just look at the newly posted Lego perpetual motion magnet motor
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy0tedYBMg
and try to see how this work.

Here is a video of a crude attempt to replicate what I have observed in some other videos. I agree that the "wobble" is an intregal part of why this allows rotation.  The sphere I am using is a highly polished partially stabilized zirconium oxide sphere which has a very low coeffeicient of friction.  Unfortunatley, the magnet on the sphere is not very strong at all.  I will try more attempts with a better magnet at a later date. Mainly, I wanted to see if I could actually upload a video on here as I have never attempted that before. A friend of mine told me it is impossible to get complete rotation from a magnet but, as I have seen it done before in several videos, I know it works.  Thanks.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xMb0OqK6gx8 this video is good too. :)

enjoy.





peace

I am not sure if this is the correct topic to post this question in, so if it's not, please forgive me.  I was wondering if anyone had done any experimentation on the material they use for strain guages.  I am not sure if this is a pizo-electric material or not but what if it was placed between two powerful magnets...it gives off an electrical current when "strained" which is why they used it on the first F-16 jet fighters control stick.  The stick did not move but it measured the forces a pilot put against it and the computer did the rest. So, if we take the same material that releases a current when a pressure is applied against it and placed it sandwhiched between two strong magnets....what happens?  If there is a topic that discusses this in more detail please direct me to it.  I thank you all.

Bill

G'day Bill,

Make your own strain gauge, it's not that hard. Hope this helps:

http://www.omega.com/literature/transactions/volume3/strain.html

Hans von Lieven

Hans:

Thank you for that information, it is very detailed and informative.  I appreciate it.

Bill

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 22, 2007, 10:51:31 AM
Here is a video of a crude attempt to replicate what I have observed in some other videos. I agree that the "wobble" is an intregal part of why this allows rotation.  The sphere I am using is a highly polished partially stabilized zirconium oxide sphere which has a very low coeffeicient of friction.  Unfortunatley, the magnet on the sphere is not very strong at all.  I will try more attempts with a better magnet at a later date. Mainly, I wanted to see if I could actually upload a video on here as I have never attempted that before. A friend of mine told me it is impossible to get complete rotation from a magnet but, as I have seen it done before in several videos, I know it works.  Thanks.

Please, try to remove your hand from the action. What you're showing has already been demonstrated by a few others, most notably Wesley Snyder. Unfortunately, so far no one has demonstrated this rotation (except probably Finsrud) in a device whereby the researcher doesn't have physical contact with it. Keep up he good work but aim at making it really self-sustaining.

Quote from: MrMag on September 21, 2007, 04:50:37 PM
Can you guys please move your SMOT comments and concerns to the proper forum. I would really like to hear more from Brian Marshall. I hope you guys didn't scare him away.

Tim

Oh, my. Poor thing ... scared away ...

If this guy has something to say he should say it openly and honestly. Enough of these games.

Omnibus:

Yes, I realize the video was crude which is why I said that it was basically an attempt to see if I could upload any video to this site. It was shot with my digital still camera which is great for stills, not designed for video. From what I have observed thus far, I think it appears that if the ring of magnets were held in a fixed position over the spinning sphere, the rotation would stop and equalibrium would be established.  I will try to provide better positioned videos in the future. Do you know if Wesley Snyder has any videos of his experimentation?  Thank you.

Bill

It would be very, very interesting if you can show the same thing without you touching it. I'm really looking forward to see such a thing. As for Wesley Snyder, there were several threads discussing it here in this forum but I can't remember where I can find them. See if you can do it.

I mean, see if you can do the experiment without holding the stator in your hand. Discussing Wesley Snyder's experiment is a separate topic, although very interesting as well.

Quote from: Brian Leonard Marshall on September 12, 2007, 02:39:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4NDrPQ2rA
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs_pszg03f8

I was asked to post a Youtube url, the first is the original the second is the scale to show the power on one magnet arrangement.

I built this unit in March as a test bed and kept it as is for posterity, since then the stainless steel unit is in production. Once Ihave it set up on a generator and hooked to the grid I will show another video.

Cheers  Brian Leonard Golightly Marshall

You might have greater force in one direction than in another - nothing strange with that, but the thing which fails the project however, is the question of how long distance you have greater force in one direction compared to the distance of the smaller counter force. The force/distance ratio is therefor probably the same in each direction - great force in short distance, and weak force in great distance. Therefor the motor will never run even if more magnets is applied to the wheel. As the first video shows, the 60 pound force does not even get the wheel to turn one single revolution because there is not enough distance to accelerate the weel enough to run continously.

Br.

Vidar

My analysis of the stator/magnet sphere thus far is that basically, the magnetic attraction reduces the weight and therefore, the friction, which is already low to begin with.  When the stator is held in the hand, it is not presented in a precise way which sets up a temporary imbalance which causes rotation.  The rotation continues due to the low friction, but is doomed to stop after a time unless another unbalance is introduced to continue the rotation.  In other words, I don't believe that if the stator is presented in a fixed position by mechanical means, without holding it, any rotation will occur. This stinks.  Back to the drawing board.

Bill

G'day all,

Howard Johnson had the same problem. As long as the activating magnet was held by hand the device turned. He tried for over 20 years to overcome this handicap but never managed to do so.

Hans von Lieven

Hans:

Well, at least I didn't work on this design 20 years, ha ha. I will have to do some research on him, it sounds interesting as is all of this to me.

Bill

G'day Bill,

The story of Howard Johnson is unfortunately an all too familiar one.

At one stage he claimed he had overcome the problem but then his lab was broken into and his prototype disappeared, after that he spent years trying to re-create his own machine, unsuccessfully.

Make of this what you will.

Hans von Lieven

Here this guys youtube page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MichelleNye

He goes into some heavy religious stuff and numerology, dates and such.  I don't understand any of that, but I await his next video on this magnet setup he has.

Have you noticed the distance between the easy spot and the hard spot.
They are located far away from each other, like 4-5 inches.
This makes me think that his motor won't work because the risk of the rotor finding equilibrium between spots.
The easy spot should be located immediately after the tough spot to get a forward thrust that can be repeated....

Quote from: Ergo on September 25, 2007, 02:17:41 AM
Have you noticed the distance between the easy spot and the hard spot.
They are located far away from each other, like 4-5 inches.
This makes me think that his motor won't work because the risk of the rotor finding equilibrium between spots.
The easy spot should be located immediately after the tough spot to get a forward thrust that can be repeated....

The key is how is he switching the force on and off.  Everything else is irrelevant.  If he is telling the truth, he has done it, and I hope he comes here and explains exactly how the mechanism he has designed works.  Perhaps photos, with schematic drawings of that mechanism.  From his youtube page, it seems hes still around posting new videos.

I don't think he's switching anything.
I believe it's purely a mechanical solution.
But the distance between sticky is most important.
If he cannot bring them together with his design there is no OU to be collected.

Quote from: Ergo on September 25, 2007, 10:29:30 AM
I don't think he's switching anything.
I believe it's purely a mechanical solution.

He states in the video the switching is not done by mechanical means.  If he comes back, we can have that clarified.

Guys Brian is still active and in personal contact with me, i have also contacted some local engineers known to panacea to help him, will report /post any progress ;)

Good, let's hope there is a truth behind the statements this time.

thank Humbugger for the lack of news, we are in direct contact with this guy and could be seeing him.
But since this FAWK makes me sort through smart ass and useless comments, im outta here.

Information in future by the non profit org may be published by us in private moderated forums.
This i will be considering.

Hi Ash,
have you checked Brian out properply and some of his religeous and political demands?
mark

Well spoken.
It pretty much nails it completely.

Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 28, 2007, 06:59:38 PM

Quote from: markdansie on September 28, 2007, 08:42:43 AM
Hi Ash,
have you checked Brian out properply and some of his religeous and political demands?
mark

Does Ashtweth ever check anything or anyone out properly?  I don't think so.  First, he humps their leg publicly, then he publishes all of their claims as if they were proven fact, then he asks for public money to support building his empire, then he throws several hissy fits if anyone asks a question and then, when the technology is proven clearly not to work, he tries to hide the dirty facts and continues to glorify the wet-legged inventor and act as if it just needs a little more R&D money from good old public grants. 

Ashtweth always makes big promises in terms of testing and publishing results but, every time, he ends up hiding behind some faked up reason for not reporting the results and not doing the tests he agreed to do.  Today his reason is that I'm hassling him and making his life oh so hard that he just cannot sort through all my terrible posts to find a place to reveal his earth-shattering overunity results.  Ashtweth' so far, in his reports and videos, has revealed only that he is a technological idiot, a shameless twister of facts and a maker of false promises.

Hissyfitnihilism

wow lol

Not quiet,

lets change that to goes in gets the plans publishes them for all, reports the truth and what was found, can conduct any more tests, makes the device available for future R and D and uses the publicity to support open sourced engineers. Plus states (i assume your addressing Chas's device) that if any one donated to us towards Chas , it is suggested that his gravity wheel shows enough potential for US, and that we support him and would give him grants as he has stated that he would Give it away once working (OPEN SOURCED). All this is stated on his page now including his motor fly wheel not being OU.

And lets not forget now we are financing his wheel our selfs out of our own pocket and will disclose any thing IF working open sourced. Plus the fact that it is a great example to show why we need our own research and development center which the non profit org is working towards.

I think you FE and your friend have it a bit wrong. Not sure if you and him realize what your saying, i am not fooled perhaps others find it entertaining, not I. lol.

Now, that, that is all behind us and the user is removed.

@ Mark, no i am not aware of his religious beliefs , nor does that matter towards his affiliation with us.
I feel the important thing is to get a working device ready, Brian has never mentioned any of his political demands or religious beliefs with the device to us so i don't know what to tell you.

I can assure all that Brian his working well , he stated he needed some local help and advice for parts, i got some of the panacea registered Local engineers to help with advice on machining etc.

Brian has stated to me that he has found a source now so is machining , and his designs look like they are going to pull some punch.

I am still in contact with him and will check he is doing okay, and create as much security as possible, once he wishes to disclose his system i can be there if he wishes for the board.

Hello Everyone,

I just happened to come across this post today and after reading some of Mr. Marshal's post, I must agree that the effect he is demonstrating is indeed genuine. I have done very extensive research into this effect and wrote an article called the "90 Degree Rule Theory" which goes into great detail about the mechanism causing the effect. On my article is also a link to a demonstration video which proves exactly what Brian was showing with the nonlinear gating effect which I call the 'kick' effect in my article.

http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90 (http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90)

There is only one thing you need to be aware of when experimenting with this, in order for the gate to work properly, there should only be one gate magnet per rotor. I have found in my early tests that adding multiple gate magnets in a circle actually diminishes the effect because the fields begin to couple to each other. My belief is that the optimal setup would contain a spiral of gate magnets rather then having them all on the same circumference disk around the rotor.

God Bless,
Jason O

Quote from: mramos on October 02, 2007, 10:53:34 PM

Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti on September 27, 2007, 10:01:22 PM
thank Humbugger for the lack of news, we are in direct contact with this guy and could be seeing him.
But since this FAWK makes me sort through smart ass and useless comments, im outta here.

Information in future by the non profit org may be published by us in private moderated forums.
This i will be considering.

I do not see Humbugger here he was banned. 

How can we thank him (but I would like too)? 

How can you use his name to explain your delays in all areas of your greatness here on this forum? 

Do you always need a scapegoat?

Or are you saying YOU chose not to share because Humbugger made you look silly (Dude, you look silly all over the internet not just here)? 

Good luck though.  I can NOT WAIT buy your invention you are not selling, and you of course seek no funding for, and I can not get one because of Humbugger?  Maybe use that in your commercial.

He is gone from here, you need to change you act here, maybe he haunts you on other forums, is October.

But like I said, I will buy one when I see it works.  That sound fair?

I thought you left because you thought he "Humbugger" was still here?  You say you will leave, but you are still here and leading people and making reason why you did not deliver (and you have quite a list, RV/Chas motor to name a couple).

Please consider your new "private" forum and leave us the forum Stefan "Volks forum" put up for the people that have real ideas so we can keep working rather debate with you.  A lot of smart people here read less now.  Some like to read and comment (me tonight) but get nothing done.  I will give all but my project away to anyone that will pay shipping.  You depress this forum.  I have no reason to do anything until you tell us what will work and now delayed due to Humbugger.

And NEVER have the word "profit" in your comments.  If you think profit (no matter if NON is in front of it).  You know what profit is and use that as bait.  There is no reason to be private and I know what non-profit do here in the USA.  It is a tax dodge.

So do you have a diagram for "this thread" I can build?  Or a video we can can look at?  Or we have to wait for you once again to share but Humbugger upset you.

Why are you chasing people and pretend to be the guy that is bring it here?  We all have google and internet access.  We can figure it out and contact the person.  Or they can POST HERE on this forum rather than you have to bring them here or better to yours so you can make a couple bucks on the internet traffic..

@mramos 

You sound like you are very dissapointed and even angry at Ashtweth.  Did you invest a lot of money or something?  Maybe you have a project that Ashtweth is promoting but has not supported as promised?  Why are you so mad at him?  Please explain for this newbie.  Thanks.

Linda

Linda:

Welcome to the forum.  I have only been here a few weeks but I have learned quite a bit.  I think you will enjoy it.

Bill

Quote from: Pirate88179 on October 03, 2007, 12:35:31 AM
Linda:

Welcome to the forum.  I have only been here a few weeks but I have learned quite a bit.  I think you will enjoy it.

Bill

Thanks, Bill.  I saw your other post over in the hemp fuel thread LOL.  What's with these guys Ashtweth and Hissyfit and Humbugger?  Seems like a lot of banning going on here!  LOL.

Linda

Linda:

Aw, you know how it is.  Whenever you get a group of people together, any group, some don't work and play well with others. I think you'll find that most of the folks on here are very intelligent, educated, and very driven and dedicated to their projects.  I am just very happy to actually find a group that thinks a lot like I do.

Bill

Dear Ash,
I really think you should look deeper into some of Brians other claims...hopefully you might see the full picture.
As far as asking for money for your research centre (not for profit) there is lots of money out there already being invested into legitimate projects. I know in the last two months alone many thousands of dollars being invested into a magnetic motor (which does run ) and millions in new engine technology which will triple milage and virtually eliminate pollution. The reason they attract funding is they are short on hysteria and pretty big on following scientific processes for validation.
There are many break throughs each week in solar, wind wave and other energy technologies that are starting to have a real impact on energy production and emission reductions.
So there is hope and a lot of positive outcomes hapenning all the time.
Kind Regards
Mark

Hi all

Brian just emailed me stating he will keep me informed, we had a great team on board addressing his suppression and still have that resource for any one wishing to contact us, plus have allot of registered engineers who we trust and have known for years which can help with local AUS advice and materials to stop any interference and or time delays. Will let you know how he goes if he doesn't post it here.

@ Linda, thanks any ways for that there is allot of frustration about i ignore it now, i find there is 90% here who are not and can genuinely and objectively help, just need to sort them. This user is delusional and like some others try to take frustration out on any thing, i am not selling any thing in fact i give money away to open sourced engineers so don't believe every thing you read.

EDIT @ LINDA-  after seeing your comments again it occurred to me what you stated in your sentence/post attempting to find and or discredit  and you posting in the RV thread,
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3332.msg52819.html#msg52819
nice try Hisy/Hum,

I would log this users IP against the banned others and see if i am wrong

@ Mark

That may well be, but hope isnt as effective a decisive address towards more efficient energy technology being suppressed at the moment, panacea has many engineers emails us daily about their suppression and devices, we need a R and D center at the least to show the world what is possible and how the community here deserves endorsement.

We have a different concepts, we wish to create social reform, not just get a device out there, plus wish a research and development center to advance education along with endorsement for the volunteers we have on board our non profit org. Many of the logistics are listed on the page, you will see the first progress of this through our make shift R and D space at the university in QLD.

Steven Ryan could of marketed his device as many if they have a specific center which is built in the PUBLIC EYE dealing with technology which is 'sensitive' to the status quo and involves political and economic conditions.

Brian's case will be the same when his device is working , in fact ask him about his Brother.
we need the security before the 'device' plus verification facilities.

The NEC will be most welcome to work in our research and development center. Brian is welcome to show his device there as is Any local in AUS like Lutec etc for proper verification and security.,and endorsement by our sponsors.

sorry i dont have allot of time to address these, panacea is getting re edited many new page have been re done please consult them for more infoz and explanation.

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@ mramos, there is nothing i can help you with, so don't ask mate, you might get offended with my answer to you in fact YOU will i can guarantee it son, good luck with you saving the planet mate your talking to your self now have fun.

"@ Linda, thanks any ways for that there is allot of frustration about i ignore it now, i find there is 90% here who are not and can genuinely and objectively help, just need to sort them. This user is delusional and like some others try to take frustration out on any thing, i am not selling any thing in fact i give money away to open sourced engineers so don't believe every thing you read.

EDIT @ LINDA-  after seeing your comments again it occurred to me what you stated in your sentence/post attempting to find and or discredit  and you posting in the RV thread,
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3332.msg52819.html#msg52819
nice try Hisy/Hum,

I would log this users IP against the banned others and see if i am wrong"

Man!  Are you split personality, schizophrenic, psychopathic, sociopathic or just a roid-rager or what?  Please log my IP and you will find easily out you are dead wrong.  I can really see now what some of these people are talking about when they use words like "hysteria" in regard to this Ashtweth guy! 

I hope, Ashtweth, that you and Brian do get together and form a major alliance.  I'm sure the two of you will soon rule the world (if you don't kill each other trying to decide who will be king).  I have never seen so much arrogance, grandiose delusion and rudeness to strangers in my life!  This is really amazing!

I'm here as part of my junior year engineering curriculum looking for a "free energy" project to study, report on and scientifically scrutinize.  Our professor warned us about what kinds of attitudes and tactics to expect but I never thought it would come rushing forth hissing and snapping with this much vigor so quickly! 

This is really amazing and totally bizarre!  I love it!  But I must get back to business now...looking for a good subject for my project report.  This one certainly is too long, drawn out and...I'll bite my tongue!

Linda Damiani

"Did you invest a lot of money or something?  Maybe you have a project that Ashtweth is promoting but has not supported as promised? "

Your not smart enough to build a Free energy device Humbugger, Thats the last post, its too weird talking to a BANNED guy in drag with the same writing style in other threads and this one, just couldn't resist.

Quote from: linda933 on October 04, 2007, 12:44:57 AM

I'm here as part of my junior year engineering curriculum looking for a "free energy" project to study, report on and scientifically scrutinize. 

Linda Damiani

Hi Linda,

Regarding your purposes, please come and check the following thread
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3086.0.html

I?m working on the subject, which I consider to be tangible.
I have to warn that it is not easy and, unfortunately, I couldn?t get solid results as of yet. Still, there are good chances imho.

Tx,
Tinu

Just in case anyone missed my post the first time around  :)

Quote from: Jdo300 on October 03, 2007, 12:07:35 AM
Hello Everyone,

I just happened to come across this post today and after reading some of Mr. Marshal's post, I must agree that the effect he is demonstrating is indeed genuine. I have done very extensive research into this effect and wrote an article called the "90 Degree Rule Theory" which goes into great detail about the mechanism causing the effect. On my article is also a link to a demonstration video which proves exactly what Brian was showing with the nonlinear gating effect which I call the 'kick' effect in my article.

http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90 (http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90)

There is only one thing you need to be aware of when experimenting with this, in order for the gate to work properly, there should only be one gate magnet per rotor. I have found in my early tests that adding multiple gate magnets in a circle actually diminishes the effect because the fields begin to couple to each other. My belief is that the optimal setup would contain a spiral of gate magnets rather then having them all on the same circumference disk around the rotor.

God Bless,
Jason O

Quote from: Jdo300 on October 04, 2007, 10:33:56 PM
Just in case anyone missed my post the first time around  :)

Quote from: Jdo300 on October 03, 2007, 12:07:35 AM
Hello Everyone,

I just happened to come across this post today and after reading some of Mr. Marshal's post, I must agree that the effect he is demonstrating is indeed genuine. I have done very extensive research into this effect and wrote an article called the "90 Degree Rule Theory" which goes into great detail about the mechanism causing the effect. On my article is also a link to a demonstration video which proves exactly what Brian was showing with the nonlinear gating effect which I call the 'kick' effect in my article.

http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90 (http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90)

There is only one thing you need to be aware of when experimenting with this, in order for the gate to work properly, there should only be one gate magnet per rotor. I have found in my early tests that adding multiple gate magnets in a circle actually diminishes the effect because the fields begin to couple to each other. My belief is that the optimal setup would contain a spiral of gate magnets rather then having them all on the same circumference disk around the rotor.

God Bless,
Jason O

Interesting, I built a setup, in which I was sure it would work based on one stator assembly.  After adding more stators to complete the circle, the field diminished the more I added.  I think you are right that the stators could be built on different levels and will work.  The force I was getting made me so excited I stayed up late nights to finish, then sadly realizing it wasn't gonna work.  I think after about 120 degrees is where it should be seperated.

Yep, I agree with you Freezer. In my experiments, I noticed the best kicks with no more than two or three stator magnets around the rotor. But again, it also depends on the diameter of the disk and stator assembly. The whole point is not to let the fields get close enough to interact with each other significantly. The only way to get around this would be to shield the magnets like Perendev did for their motor. But I would just use, say, two stator magnets and offset them on different assemblies spaced away from each other. Even it the thing ends up being long like a cylinder, it would be a very simple test to prove/disprove.

God Bless,
Jason O

Quote from: emitremmah on September 17, 2007, 10:07:48 AM
Hello Brian,
I have just watched your videos and it looks great. I had thoughts about being able to effect magnetic flux with some kind of wave - vibration - sound - something but I didn't know what. I would like to understand what you are referring to in regards to the gauze. Are you being metaphorical or are you refering to gauze as in hospital wappings or in the electronic field  that effects CRT's?

If you have any need of support in Western Sydney let me know.

Regards,
Hammertime

Hello, Brian:

Like Hammertime, I also was concerned about your use of the word "gauze". Did you mean "gauss", ie., in reference to magnetic fields? As Hammertime said, "Gauze"  is  medical fabric used in dressings, surgery, or bandaging.

Keep going  with your magnets-based work, as tricky as it can be at times. It seems that in all of this Free Energy work, pulsing, resonance, sharp/sudden field perturbance, optimal high or extra-low frequency, optimal high voltage, and knowledge of working materials as simple as water, copper or aluminium, and the geometry of device components are crucial considerations (No doubt I've omitted some things). Also  there's a lot about electromagnetism that has yet to be known, and it looks like  F-E workers will be the ones to add to that knowledge base.

Hal Ade

Ergo:

I agree with most of what you said about Brian's lack of understanding of the way the Universe works. However, I have a problem with your statement below:

Quote from: Ergo on September 18, 2007, 03:08:39 AM
You are babbling your own imaginary theories without any credibility whatsoever.
It cleary demonstrates you haven't got a clue about magnetic fields and their part of nature.
No magnetic field from any planet or star reaches out to another planet.

Despite Brian's "imaginary theories", Maxwell and Hertz showed that magnetic fields do extend out forever from their source, even to other bodies in space. However, as you've implied, wittingly or unwittingly, they become weaker by the Inverse Square Law the further they are from their source. For all intents and purposes, therefore, they give  every appearance to  "non-techies" that they have ceased at a certain point. As we on this forum all know, however, by the time they reach another planet/sun/moon/galaxy etc. they are usually too weak to be detected, but still there, nonetheless. Many of us F-E types, however, at least hypothesize that E-M fields from the Quantum Vacuum  - Vacuum Energy - , once again being referred to as the "Aether", being longitudinal (Whittaker et al.)  rather than transverse, also continue forever, but since the Inverse Square Law does not apply in that case, there is no diminishment in their intensity. So in those cases, the amplitude remains constant, as does the field's energy.

Quote from: Ergo on September 18, 2007, 03:08:39 AM
If you do manage to make a working magnet motor I will applause you. But please don't think for a minute that there are forces willing to kill you for this. Once another source of energy is discovered and publicized the whole world will congratulate the inventor. There are many ongoing projects around the world in search for new energy. And they are not being shoot or shut down. This is serius and well known attempts. Why should any company feel threatened by a small time inventor that's involved in a perhaps impossible task?

And why should the energy companies like to kill a new source of energy. It does not make sense. They would of course produce new cheap electricity and sell it for the same price as they are used to and then make even more money.This applies to the oil and gas companies as well. Instead of buying and importing expensive oil they could just set up a plant and produce free energy which they could sell for lots of money.

But again. If you do succeed to make a working magnet motor you are a hero, sir.

Boy, Ergo, your above comment is the height of naivet?!. You must be very new to the New (ie., Free) Energy environment, since most of us have heard our geat share of horror stories of thugs throwing inventors against brick walls just hard enough to warn them against continuing to develop their invention. Speak to John Bedini, who has his own, apparently quite successful magnet-type motor-generator, about one such experience. Yes, "there are forces willing to kill" inventors if they persist in going ahead with their F-E project, but those forces generally act in "gentler" ways first, such as offering multi-millions or even billions to buy out IP and shelve it. Many, such as Charles Pogue, inverntor of a 200 mpg carburetor back in the 30s, apparently have taken that bait.To be sure, most F-E inventors are not threatened with harm as long as the "powers that be" figure they're nowhere near success, and most will probably never be successful. But the moment one has demonstrated even near-success, there's a good chance one will be served with a "Secrecy Order" from the Government, if not death from energy corporation thugs, on account of "National Security" (for the oil companies, that is). If the authorities know you've disobeyed such an order, you go to prison, as happened to Adam Trombly with his F-E device. It's for reasons like those that inventors tend to keep things quiet, until they can find supporters they can trust.

As for "Once another source of energy is discovered and publicized the whole world will congratulate the inventor", the ordinary people of the world would do so for sure. After all, it's to their benefit. But Big Oil, Gas, and Coal, large private electricity companies such as ConEd, the large private banks of the world such as CitiBank and Deutsche Bank, and certain governments and their populations which plan on eventually controlling the rest of the world in their own interest, would hate it. They know that Free Energy is real, alright, and they thus do not intend "to kill a new source of energy"; you've got that right! But they want it all for themselves as a monopoly or oligopoly when they're ready to implement it under their control. That way they could control a) the price of that energy at what the market would bear, and the energy supply and thus b)  the world's rank-and-file populations - power-tripping!! A large coporation  or other such entity would feel threatened if they can't get the invention in question, even if the inventor is "small time". Said company or companies would then lose some control, then a reduction in income and eventually assets, and then relegation to just being another medium-sized business which has to hustle to stay above water, like the local lumber company or brick-works. Energy control is today the major way of controlling the world's population in the interest of the "Big Boys". If  every building, including every home, had its own privately-owned F-E generator from a variety of vendors not part of the big corporate milieu, and better yet, if many of those generators were "home-built" by the home-owner, there's that much less power that the Big Corporations can exercise over us "little guys", since we'd have more power (and responsibility) over our own life situation.

So, with "They would of course produce new cheap electricity and sell it for the same price as they are used to and then make even more money.This applies to the oil and gas companies as well. Instead of buying and importing expensive oil they could just set up a plant and produce free energy which they could sell for lots of money", you've just made my point! Yes, indeed!. Right now, the oil, gas, and automobile companies have billions invested in oil stores, extraction, and transport facilities, and production infrastructure for the gasoline and diesel engine. Mutual, pension, and education funds are also invested in them. Bring in New Energy right away and those financial instruments "go down the tubes Big Time", and could hurt a lot of "semi"-innocent people who are buying oil at $90/barrel. Imagine it going down to $15/barrel within one year of the first workable F-E generators coming out, even though we're allegedly running out of oil. There'd be a temporary oil "surplus" in that case. Now you know why F-E inventors and their crews will face hard times from Big Corps and certain Big Governments in this matter. The forces you mentioned don't want to "kill a new source of energy"; they just want to control it!!

Hal Ade

Quote from: modernsteam on November 06, 2007, 05:36:09 PM

Boy, Ergo, your above comment is the height of naivet?!. You must be very new to the New (ie., Free) Energy environment, since most of us have heard our geat share of horror stories of thugs throwing inventors against brick walls just hard enough to warn them against continuing to develop their invention. Speak to John Bedini, who has his own, apparently quite successful magnet-type motor-generator, about one such experience. Yes, "there are forces willing to kill" inventors if they persist in going ahead with their F-E project, but those forces generally act in "gentler" ways first, such as offering multi-millions or even billions to buy out IP and shelve it. Many, such as Charles Pogue, inverntor of a 200 mpg carburetor back in the 30s, apparently have taken that bait.To be sure, most F-E inventors are not threatened with harm as long as the "powers that be" figure they're nowhere near success, and most will probably never be successful. But the moment one has demonstrated even near-success, there's a good chance one will be served with a "Secrecy Order" from the Government, if not death from energy corporation thugs, on account of "National Security" (for the oil companies, that is). If the authorities know you've disobeyed such an order, you go to prison, as happened to Adam Trombly with his F-E device. It's for reasons like those that inventors tend to keep things quiet, until they can find supporters they can trust.

As for "Once another source of energy is discovered and publicized the whole world will congratulate the inventor", the ordinary people of the world would do so for sure. After all, it's to their benefit. But Big Oil, Gas, and Coal, large private electricity companies such as ConEd, the large private banks of the world such as CitiBank and Deutsche Bank, and certain governments and their populations which plan on eventually controlling the rest of the world in their own interest, would hate it. They know that Free Energy is real, alright, and they thus do not intend "to kill a new source of energy"; you've got that right! But they want it all for themselves as a monopoly or oligopoly when they're ready to implement it under their control. That way they could control a) the price of that energy at what the market would bear, and the energy supply and thus b)  the world's rank-and-file populations - power-tripping!! A large coporation  or other such entity would feel threatened if they can't get the invention in question, even if the inventor is "small time". Said company or companies would then lose some control, then a reduction in income and eventually assets, and then relegation to just being another medium-sized business which has to hustle to stay above water, like the local lumber company or brick-works. Energy control is today the major way of controlling the world's population in the interest of the "Big Boys". If  every building, including every home, had its own privately-owned F-E generator from a variety of vendors not part of the big corporate milieu, and better yet, if many of those generators were "home-built" by the home-owner, there's that much less power that the Big Corporations can exercise over us "little guys", since we'd have more power (and responsibility) over our own life situation.

So, with "They would of course produce new cheap electricity and sell it for the same price as they are used to and then make even more money.This applies to the oil and gas companies as well. Instead of buying and importing expensive oil they could just set up a plant and produce free energy which they could sell for lots of money", you've just made my point! Yes, indeed!. Right now, the oil, gas, and automobile companies have billions invested in oil stores, extraction, and transport facilities, and production infrastructure for the gasoline and diesel engine. Mutual, pension, and education funds are also invested in them. Bring in New Energy right away and those financial instruments "go down the tubes Big Time", and could hurt a lot of "semi"-innocent people who are buying oil at $90/barrel. Imagine it going down to $15/barrel within one year of the first workable F-E generators coming out, even though we're allegedly running out of oil. There'd be a temporary oil "surplus" in that case. Now you know why F-E inventors and their crews will face hard times from Big Corps and certain Big Governments in this matter. The forces you mentioned don't want to "kill a new source of energy"; they just want to control it!!

Hal Ade

You can read for yourselves the experience of Mark Dansie, a member of New Energy Commision NEC, that have many years experinece of new energy inventions.
He have never encounted any signs or proof of conspiracy against new energy inventions.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg53232.html#msg53232
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg53577.html#msg53577
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2487.msg46307.html#msg46307

It's common people like us that tends to believe in all those conspiracy theories.

The John Bedini motor never worked. It had hidden batteries. End of story.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1988.msg51339.html#msg51339

Why ain't Paul Sprain or Hilden-Brand dead yet? According to you and your believes in the conspiracy
theories they should have been killed a long time ago. But they are still living a good life. Period.

And then there are of course all of those other real and proven Free Energy developments.
Fusion power, Solar power, Wind power, Wave power, Water power and this list keeps going on.
Why ain't the leading inventors of these companies getting killed? Well, just because the is no existing conspiracy against free energy.

Even if a Free energy device is released there will still be a great need for oil. The world won't change over night. It will take a long time.
And some engines can't be replaced by another power source.
Just think of all situations where there is a need for a powerful combustion engine, like fast jet planes, compact high power motors, and so on.

You shouldn't forget that nowadays there is a global craving for green energy. It's not like in the 70 or 80:ties when people didn't give a shit.

I have read alot of posts on the subject of magnetic motors operating in the repultion state. I have listened to both sides of the issue (believers and debunker's). I happen to think that it is possible for such a devise to be made. However, I am not sure of the possible torque that can be produced. And after all that is what we are after to make work from the energy. As for the debunker's out there the laws of thermal dynamics DO NOT APPLY to magnetic motors as there is NO heat generated NOR is heat used to obtain the energy. Just ask any educated physicist. THERMAL (heat) DYNAMICS (the science dealing with motions produced by given forces) get a dictionary. As of the demagnetization of the magnets in the repultion mode, you are right. They will demagnetize, but only if the coercive force (Ke) is below 15(Ke). Even with that knowledge it must also be stated that it will take about 10 to 12 years for enough demagnetization to occur to even measure the Gauss loss with a Gasometer. Even longer to diminish the magnet enough to cause loss in power using a magnet less than 15(ke). Neo magnets are the only way to go with the current technology we have and even they were not invented until 1983 in China. Even then they were used in high tech devices in technology based fields of industry. They were not available redilly to the public until the beginning of the 90's to mid 90's. Furthermore, not everything about magnets are known to science. There are still some mysteries to be solved.
With that out of the way I would like to add that I am planning to replicate the Perendev motor. I have done alot of research into this device and believe that I have discovered the key to it. I should have it completed in about two months. It will be a 1/4 scale model as it is inversely proportional so therefore power will be scalable. I have a few ideas about certain requirements that I wish to experiment with to improve the power of this device (if it works). I will post my findings when appropriate. I promise to post a video of the device in good resolution with a complete walk around on a glass table as to try to convience the skeptics. If anything furthere that I can do with the video to help out please let me know ahead of time.
THANK YOU,