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Title: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: b0rg13 on September 11, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
with all the stuff inve been reading in the forums here power seems to be all over the place...but where is a real working system....there seems to be lots of partly made systems... is any one able to post real working systems?....is it not possable to simply hook up a motor of some kind to a generator of some kind ?..or am i missing the point here?.....surely there are working ideas out here, cant we get a list, most of the forums seem to start off really well, then it seems to turn into bitching ::) ...

..could hydrogen from water run a small motor to run a gen ?..
..could a magnet motor run a gen ?..

...the best example i thought i saw was an rv motor running a gen..in a video , and i thought i saw 300volts in and 1100volts out...makeing 800 for free ?..couldnt this run a basic home...or sit in the boot of a car and run and electic car?..then when not in use plug into ya house to up the power when your home ?( i cant help but think this would simply work?)

... i cant help but see power in the forums.... i dont see any one saying there off the grid and this is how i did it...
(if your wondering if by now i must be cluless , your probly right, i more than likley am,)

id appreciate any comments what so ever about any thing here.( this will healp me learn,thats why im here).
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 11, 2007, 02:53:52 AM
G'day all,

300 volt in and 1100 volt out is no big deal, transformers have managed that amazing feat ever since they were invented.

It does not mean much.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: b0rg13 on September 11, 2007, 03:08:35 AM
dosent mean much ?....umm ok..

ok lets say we have a transformer puting out 1100 with 300 going in ,....cant we hook up 3 more to that one and get 3300?
..it means much to me when you compaire it to being able to paye a power bill and deciding to put food on the table...but i think i can see where your coming from , it just dosent matter if you can afford both power and food :).

if i knew how to do this id simply do it and teach others how to as well,maybe its just me because im poor that i want a way NOT to pay for power( or fuel ).

..our power stations used to be owned by the public, a while ago the gov sold them off right under our noses and said the prices would come down due to competition , the prices have only gone up, infact not long ago the power co disconnected a family from the grid and 4 hours later a lady died because her oxygen machine stoped working, and they begged for the power not to go off, a week later the power co gave them 10k to help for the digging of the 6 foot hole.
hmmmmm.
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 11, 2007, 03:20:26 AM
G'day again,

Of course you can, if you are prepared to put up with the resultant drop in amperage. What you gain in volt you lose in ampere. There is no NEW energy in a transformer.

Voltage on its own means little, you can have millions of volt and touch it, all it will do is make your hair stand on end (literally)

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: crazyman on September 11, 2007, 09:41:57 AM
Forget about quantum fluctuations, vacuum fluctuations, virtual matter,
zero point energy, casimir force, quantum tunneling.
All you need is a concrete flywheel! You pulse the output so the flywheel
doesn?t see the load!
Or just hook a motor to a generator! Or a battery to a battery charger to
charge itself!
If that?s not your cup of tea then perhaps billiard balls and a wheel!
Just put 7 on one side and 8 on the other! Simple as Pi!

Waahaaahaaheeeheeeheeeheee
(running around in circles waving arms in the air).
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: shruggedatlas on September 11, 2007, 11:11:10 AM
Quote from: b0rg13 on September 11, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
with all the stuff inve been reading in the forums here power seems to be all over the place...but where is a real working system....there seems to be lots of partly made systems... is any one able to post real working systems?....is it not possable to simply hook up a motor of some kind to a generator of some kind ?..or am i missing the point here?.....surely there are working ideas out here, cant we get a list, most of the forums seem to start off really well, then it seems to turn into bitching ::)

Ask Lawrence Tseung and he will gladly tell you about the devices he presented in China at Tsing Hua University.

And think of electricity like a pipe of water.  There are two factors - width of the pipe and the water pressure.  Volts are like pressure, so it is easy to adjust pressure, like putting your thumb at the hose tip, but this does not affect the amount of water coming out.  You could have very high pressure but a very tiny amount of water.
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: lltfdaniel1 on September 11, 2007, 02:03:46 PM
something about voltage into current ,

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Circuit_Idea/Passive_Voltage-to-Current_Converter

O_o
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: b0rg13 on September 11, 2007, 04:52:56 PM
Quote from: crazyman on September 11, 2007, 09:41:57 AM
Forget about quantum fluctuations, vacuum fluctuations, virtual matter,
zero point energy, casimir force, quantum tunneling.
All you need is a concrete flywheel! You pulse the output so the flywheel
doesn?t see the load!
Or just hook a motor to a generator! Or a battery to a battery charger to
charge itself!
If that?s not your cup of tea then perhaps billiard balls and a wheel!
Just put 7 on one side and 8 on the other! Simple as Pi!

Waahaaahaaheeeheeeheeeheee
(running around in circles waving arms in the air).

hmmm so a concrete fly wheeel hooked up to a generator...use some of that power to pulse a couple magnets in the fly wheel ?..as in a pulse motor like i see on the forums here?....

does running around in circles waving arms in the air work |?, i never thought of that!.

Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: crazyman on September 11, 2007, 05:33:39 PM
Yes! Forget about real OU research!
Waste your time building concrete flywheels with magnets! 
We can beat gravity with THAT!
WooOoooOooo,,,,,, (flapping arms, eyes twitching)
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: crazyman on September 11, 2007, 07:40:16 PM
You know b0rg13 ,
I used to be sane!  keeeeck keeeck, (contorted neck twitching).
Then I came here! Weeeeeeeeee! ,,,,,,

Things  like resolving the link between gravity and electromagnetism,
(though electromagnetism is perpendicular to effect),
or that electrostatic field lines are square root and identical to gravity (aspen),
(though electrostatic field lines are polarized and gravity is not)!
Are being solved here through flywheels, billiard ball, hammers and reflected power in motors! Weeeeeeeee,,,
That Faraday showed that bismuth opposes a magnetic field, though particles
in the bismuth aligns s-n-s-n-s-n and do not set up a n-n, s-s null within the bismuth material!
That gravity can bend the path of light and electromagnetism can only rotate it!
That Faraday through electromagnetism could rotate light inside a helix coil but not outside
of it! even if the test material was touching the coil!
WoooooWeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaa,,,,,,

Keeeck keeeck keeeeck, WoooOooooOooooOooo
(pecking at bird seed spread out on floor)
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 11, 2007, 10:34:06 PM
G'day all,

Look you cretins, building a perpetual motion machine is as easy as scratching your butt. All you have to do is build a pump that can pump more water than the waterwheel needs to drive it.

Get to it fellows!  :-)

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: b0rg13 on September 11, 2007, 11:20:28 PM
so its a easy as scratching my butt.. :o :o.... ok so im wanting a list of LOW EFFICENT *things* you can attach to *some type of gen* to make the same power as one wall socket...(oh and id like it to fit in a closet as well as the boot of a car  ;D

so some gen/gens.....and a cheap way to drive it..so it can take some of the gen power...i saw  a thing this thing in rotoverters that looked good...sems a little over the top for a simple person but it all looks like it makes sence and does make more power.
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: crazyman on September 13, 2007, 10:37:34 AM
Hello everybody! Dr. Nick Riviera here.

I?ve taken this opportunity to inform you that I?ve been put
In charge of this poor crazy man.
He has the most acute case of poultryitis psychosis I?ve
ever seen, but don?t worry!  we?ve sedated him now
and he appears to be doing much better as
long as he?s not near a KFC.

bukk,,,,,,,,,bukk,,,,,,,,bukk,,,,,,,,,bukk,,,,,,
(sounds of contented clucking in background)

And I can assure you he is not from any alpine valley
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cretin

We tried to explain to him that maybe SMOT
might really work, that who says that a magnetic field
Is a conservative loop, that maybe N could be different
to S so that a ball bearing could be pulled in and
expell with less force. That maybe there could be more
of one pole or another.

bukk,,bukk,,bukk,,bukk,,bukk,,bukk
(slightly agitated clucking in background)

Then we told him that maybe a flywheel might work.
After all, the ESA has been experimenting with Gravitomagnetism
and spinning matter. That maybe magnets and a flywheel
might create an artificial gravity field or interaction.
who knows! maybe Hundred sof years experience with flywheels might be wrong.
Though, I?ve never seen anything with a flywheel fly off into space.

Bukk,Bukk,Bukk,Bukk,Bukk
(very agitated clucking in background)

Oh, and as well, regarding your suggestion about a 105%
efficient turbine or impeller that could lift more than
It took to run it he suggested this,
http://www.amazon.com/Proctor-Silex-57171-7-Speed-Blender/dp/B00006IUWX

Well, I have to go now, I have a wine tasting at 11 and some sort of brain surgery
at 12.
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: Humbugger on September 13, 2007, 01:44:41 PM
Crazyman:  Good luck on the wine tasting.  On the brain surgery, I'm afraid they can't correct a prefrontal lobotomy, sorry!

Humbugger
Title: Re: So Wheres The Power Then ?
Post by: crazyman on September 14, 2007, 02:01:47 PM
Hello Everybody! Dr Riviera again!

I?d just like to say that crazy mans operation was a success.
more or less. We removed some sort of special over unity device that had
become lodged in his cranium. We believe that this happened
while attempting to make some sort of device.

Here?s the preliminary testing we?ve done:

(Dr) what is free energy?
(crazyman) energy that doesn?t cost very much
(Dr) how do you feel about magnets?
(crazy man) there ok I guess, they pick things up
(Dr) what do you think about flywheels?
(crazy man) they go around and around.
(Dr) what do you think about coral castle?
(crazy man)   burk!
(Dr) how do you feel about his concrete wheel with magnets?
(crazy man) burk!,  it did work burk!, but was just for degaussing watches, burk!,

He also mentioned that photo?s showed heavy poles and heavy cable
as  well as geared chained pulleys which showed it has more
to do with the pyramids than anti-gravity.

So you see, all is mostly well with crazy man.

I have to go again, I have a pressing engagement at the winery.