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Title: chain leverage wheel. perpetual ???
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 12, 2007, 04:03:12 PM
hi all,

sorry if this idea has been thought of before or if it doesn't work.

but from my perspective it seems it could work. one wheel has more leverage then the other. what do you guys think?

just take a look at the attached picture i draw up. looks kind of crappy but you get the idea hopefully.

Title: Re: chain leverage perpetual wheel
Post by: whatever on September 12, 2007, 04:25:17 PM
So why is it suppose to move?
Title: Re: chain leverage perpetual wheel
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 12, 2007, 04:37:49 PM
seems to be more leverage on the right wheel because the chain goes further out of the wheel causing more leverage?
Title: Re: chain leverage perpetual wheel
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 12, 2007, 04:42:50 PM
G'day all,

What leverage are you talking about?

Seems to me both wheels are in equilibrium, neither of them is going anywhere. No movement, no leverage.

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: chain leverage perpetual wheel
Post by: Joh70 on September 12, 2007, 04:42:55 PM
how does the chain turn? how is that possible, when the second wheel turns? no chain connected this way!
Title: Re: chain leverage perpetual wheel
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 12, 2007, 04:58:49 PM
both wheels are in equilibrium yes i agree, but the chain goes further out of the wheel's diameter to lock itself.


- edit actually it doesn't go there because it is already there, but i guess there would still be "more weight" there, but it's just leverage. i don't know i could be wrong.

Title: Re: chain leverage wheel. perpetual ???
Post by: sm0ky2 on September 14, 2007, 05:04:20 AM
I have two concerns:

1) what is holding the chain to the inner side of the wheel on the right? wouldn't it just flop loose and not function properly?

and 2)  chains cause a lot of friction/drag/stopping power from the interlocking teeth.

there would be a lot of losses
Title: Re: chain leverage wheel. perpetual ???
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 14, 2007, 03:27:56 PM
G'day all,

FreeEnergy, you cannot use a chain as a LEVER it lacks the necessary rigidity.

But even that aside, just WHAT is capable of movement in your design?

Hans von Lieven

Title: Re: chain leverage wheel. perpetual ???
Post by: FreeEnergy on September 14, 2007, 03:35:01 PM
never mind, this will not work! :(

back tot he drawing board :)


peace
Title: Re: chain leverage wheel. perpetual ???
Post by: hansvonlieven on September 14, 2007, 04:11:16 PM
G'day FreeEnergy,

Haven't we all been THERE before :-)

Hans von Lieven