Here it is! Solar power without using the sun! You cannot get more clever than this Robert Jackson fellow, in my opinion. I found this over at Panacea...another promising new technology in need of public funding and R&D grants!
The body of the patent application shows Robert is totally on top of his game when it comes to thinking outside the box. The claims section demonstrates that Robert is as sharp as a tack when it comes to the legal language and purpose of writing patent claims. If Panacea can't find Robert a huge grant on this baby, I imagine Robert could earn the money working as a patent lawyer.
I wonder why the patent has not been granted yet? Certainly seems to be a solid concept, well described and have perfectly reasonable claims. I just wish I had thought of it first. I bet the patent office and oil men are holding this one up. That Robert Jackson better hide before the MIB come after him. He's clearly got the secret here, folks!
Hisssssssssss
;D
click the pdf below for the astoundingly brilliant insights of the new Tesla of the 21st century!
Give it to Lawrence, he'll explain how it works.
Hans von Lieven
Lamp over Photocell will Lead Out enormous energy for use by Chinese People.
Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 26, 2007, 10:44:25 PM
Ahhh, yes! Maybe one of Ashtweth's 7000 registered engineers here can design a resonance neon pulsating circuit to extract even more energy...given enough R&D funding and security...
Hissy
Careful with language, or Lawrence will correct you. Not "extract" but "Lead Out." This is a typical layman mistake that the students at Tsing Hua University would not make.
Dont you have anything more productive or important to do than to
go around bashing others?
Your life must truly be a mess of a bitter existence.
At least Ash is trying to do SOMETHING positive.
Weather or not its achieved.. is another story...
But what are YOU doing thats so great???
I have a suggestion for you...
Take up a hobby such as Video Games.
Guitar Hero II for PS2 is very addictive, and enjoyed by people of all
ages and sexes. Your mood should improve greatly.
The only one you really do damage to, is yourself.
A Monk once said...
Anger is like holding on to a hot coal. All you have to do, is let it
go.. But you continue to grasp the coal, and burn yourself even worse..
Burning up inside.. and reducing your health, attitude, and even
your own remaining lifespan.
Quote from: zero on September 27, 2007, 02:03:48 AM
Dont you have anything more productive or important to do than to
go around bashing others?
Your life must truly be a mess of a bitter existence.
At least Ash is trying to do SOMETHING positive.
Weather or not its achieved.. is another story...
...
A Monk once said...
Anger is like holding on to a hot coal. All you have to do, is let it
go.. But you continue to grasp the coal, and burn yourself even worse..
Burning up inside.. and reducing your health, attitude, and even
your own remaining lifespan.
That?s exactly the point here.
I mean, it MUST be something positive in it, right? ???
Or, if you like the old free-energy saying then let?s ?split the positive and negative?. ::)
Tinu
Oh, I almost forgot: this is not at all about anger. It?s about simple truth versus misleading.
Quote from: tinu on September 27, 2007, 03:02:55 AM
Quote from: zero on September 27, 2007, 02:03:48 AM
Dont you have anything more productive or important to do than to
go around bashing others?
Your life must truly be a mess of a bitter existence.
That?s exactly the point here.
I mean, it MUST be something positive in it, right? ???
If you can only spew bullshit the conversation will be over rather quickly. So yes, you need to bring something positive to the discussion. Try have some common decency, I know it's a lot to ask from some people. Don't give up trying. You can do this "behave like adult" thing, trust me.
Quote from: HissyfitNihilism on September 26, 2007, 09:06:30 PM
Here it is! Solar power without using the sun! You cannot get more clever than this Robert Jackson fellow, in my opinion. I found this over at Panacea...another promising new technology in need of public funding and R&D grants!
The body of the patent application shows Robert is totally on top of his game when it comes to thinking outside the box. The claims section demonstrates that Robert is as sharp as a tack when it comes to the legal language and purpose of writing patent claims. If Panacea can't find Robert a huge grant on this baby, I imagine Robert could earn the money working as a patent lawyer.
I wonder why the patent has not been granted yet? Certainly seems to be a solid concept, well described and have perfectly reasonable claims. I just wish I had thought of it first. I bet the patent office and oil men are holding this one up. That Robert Jackson better hide before the MIB come after him. He's clearly got the secret here, folks!
Hisssssssssss
;D
click the pdf below for the astoundingly brilliant insights of the new Tesla of the 21st century!
http://geocities.yahoo.com/search?p=robert+jackson&Submit=Search
Yahoo! Small Business - Web Hosting
http://landoflegends.us/41pegasus/33roberts_files/index.html
Solar Panel Patent Application 60-534667
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20030168095.html
Self powered solar generator - Patent 20030168095
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org/RobertJackson.htm
Robert Jackson
http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Robert_Jackson's_Dynamotor_Electric_Generator
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QuoteDirectory:Robert Jackson's Dynamotor Electric Generator
From PESWiki
Robert takes an off-the-shelf motor with one rating on the name plate, and an off-the-shelf generator, with a rating on the name plate, does the math, and says that if you put them together, then you will have more energy out than you put in.
Fascinating ! OU solved by picking the right motor and the right generator off the shelf. Bung the two together and you have OU.
Why didn't I think of that?
Or Lawrence maybe?
Tsing Hua University say: Chinese Motor and Generator
Lead Out enough
Energy to power
China
Quote from: gaby de wilde on September 27, 2007, 09:37:54 PM
Quote from: tinu on September 27, 2007, 03:02:55 AM
Quote from: zero on September 27, 2007, 02:03:48 AM
Dont you have anything more productive or important to do than to
go around bashing others?
Your life must truly be a mess of a bitter existence.
That?s exactly the point here.
I mean, it MUST be something positive in it, right? ???
If you can only spew bullshit the conversation will be over rather quickly. So yes, you need to bring something positive to the discussion. Try have some common decency, I know it's a lot to ask from some people. Don't give up trying. You can do this "behave like adult" thing, trust me.
Now that is really funny coming from a person who routinely spews out posts that are laced with rudeness and hostility and name calling like an adolescent.
G'day zero and others,
Why am I being bashed up for doing nothing else but stating the obvious.
This fellow has had nine failed projects all revolving around the same kind of idea. All his patent applications have been knocked back. One of his patent applications revolves around connecting an electric motor to a generator using a straight shaft.
He says in his application that by comparing the plates affixed to the devices one can easily see where the overunity is. If the generator delivers 1000 Watts and the motor that drives it only needs 500 Watts you have overunity right there. I took the trouble of reading the thing, something no-one else did, by the look of it.
His latest patent application is to mount a lamp over a photocell (actually he pictures three lamps in the drawing) and states that the photocell will generate more energy than the lamps need.
Gimme a break!
This is nothing but a variation of Robert Fludd's contraption that centered around the idea that if you can build a pump that delivers more water than the waterwheel needs to drive it you have perpetual motion.
No-one has ever done that.
Come on guys, we are NOT in the middle ages. These kind of silly ideas should have been thrown out long ago.
I believe that we can tap into enormous energy sources "out there" if we get our designs right, but following along the lines of long dis-proven theories is not the way to do it, and no amount of fancy theories that do not reflect reality as we need to face it is ever going to change this.
Someone once said: "If you put a rat in a maze and it finds cheese in one of the tunnels it will go there first the next time. Once the cheese disappears it will go looking elsewhere. Man is the only animal known that will persist in looking in the same tunnel for thirty years after the cheese has disappeared."
Some here are still chasing tunnels that have been empty since Newton was a boy and get belligerent when someone like me points this out.
Hans von Lieven.
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G'day allcanadian,
Maybe we don't understand "perception", the trouble is we understand "deception" perhaps too well for your liking. Besides, he never did get a patent. The patent office refused him a patent on the grounds that his application was nonsense.
Hans von Lieven
Wait. A sucker born every minute? That would be 1/1 correct? Now if we could just get this up to 2/1 that would be Over Unity. (Smile)
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Im not sure why I even bothered commenting this is pointless
G'day all,
Another one of his, this time using compressed air.
The section in italics is the complete header of his patent application. It is unedited. Bold emphasis in the last sentence is mine.
Hans von Lieven
Air-Driven Electric Power Generator
Air Generator Patent Application 10-136063
Utility Application #10/136063
Inventors Name and Address
Robert William Jackson
RR 2 Box 142
Hinton, Oklahoma 73047
Citizen of United States of America
Version With Markings To Show Changes Made
Cross-Reference to Related Applications
Robert William Jackson requests that Provisional Patent 60/368394 (Air Driven Electric Power Generator) Date: 03/29/2002 be converted into Utility Patent. (Confirmation #2131)
Robert William Jackson requests that this particular Utility Patent be classified as a ?Concept? Patent.
Robert William Jackson claims to be sole inventor of this concept and has tried to meet the requirements for a Utility Patent.
Background of Invention
This theory was developed by Robert William Jackson. I claim to be the original inventor of this concept. This is a renewable energy device using basic air-flow principals. My idea is to use an air compressor (See 1-B, Sheet 1 and 2) with a high pressure nozzle (See 1-C, Sheet 1 and 2). The nozzle is then directed into a turbine (See 1-D, Sheet 1 and 2). The theory is to rotate the turbine which in turn is connected to an electric generator (See 2-A, Sheet 1 and 2). The theory is to rotate turbine with air-flow from nozzle which is connected to air-compressor. The pressure from air-flow which comes from end of nozzle should be direct at point of the turbine which creates the most efficient rotation of turbine (See 1-C, Sheet 1 and 2). This rotation of turbine creates torque (See 1-D, Sheet 1 and 2) in which generator converts into electricity (See 2-A, Sheet 1 and 2).
Brief Summary of the Invention
I claim you can create more electricity than what it takes to run the air-compressor. The device creates more power than what it takes to power the device.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 28, 2007, 10:27:05 PM
He says in his application that by comparing the plates affixed to the devices one can easily see where the overunity is. If the generator delivers 1000 Watts and the motor that drives it only needs 500 Watts you have overunity right there. I took the trouble of reading the thing, something no-one else did, by the look of it.
This is the funniest thing I've ever heard in OU arena :D :D
I did not read the solar power patent, but I guess its about getting a lamp glow using solar cells and shining the light back onto the cells to keep it going or something like that ???
Quote
Directory:Robert Jackson's Dynamotor Electric Generator
From PESWiki
Robert takes an off-the-shelf motor with one rating on the name plate, and an off-the-shelf generator, with a rating on the name plate, does the math, and says that if you put them together, then you will have more energy out than you put in.
We give our assessment that this design has no merit. -- Sterling D. Allan (Feb. 7, 2006)
PESWiki on Robert Jackson. See, I am not making this up. :-)
Hans von Lieven
I see where Ashtweth has been publicly stating that Hissyfitnihilism "needs a bullet" over on the NeonTest thread and elsewhere. I for one think that this highly offensive behavior of Ashtweth should result in banning. Ashtweth is a cult leader and he is now openly attacking John Bedini and suggesting to his followers that his critics "need a bullet".
Is this what Stefan Hartmann is promoting? It seems like skeptics are quickly banned yet threats and suggestions of murder are felt to be completely acceptable!
Don Gray
I missed this thread, mramos and Don say hello to Nihil nothing from me for now on.
Seems like the banned hum just went to scan informaiton on the site he could poke fun at,
don newbee one post, seems ;like you could be former banned user no? Mramos i hope your not getting advice and or postings form a banned user name you in allot of shyte if you are mate,
Mramos you shouldn't build any thing from the RV you don't understand it , thats obvious from the threads, but it seems i don't need to state that, plus you like malice see how far it gets you, dont expect any of the RV engineers to address your threads any more.
you are not only rude but do not read.
Rob has stated to me that his ideas need more testing, and i feel there is merit in them and we would like to see for our selfs, and he has objectively given us many good informaiton on the patent office which is on the panacea site, we still would like to test all his ideas.
if You who dont like it know what you can do ;), i am out of these threads wastig my time so don't expect ans answer from me. Those who are not building devices are posting these threads just a reminder how seriously we take you all when you post these type of threads.,
I just now ran across this post and I feel compeled to say something. First I would like thank the person who started this topic and I'm sorry you got so riduculed for saying what you did. Second, Mramos that picture of me was taken at another house (I don't smoke). Third, I haven't live in Oklahoma for over 4 years (I've been a resident of Colorado since then) Hans, I might of got a patent if I had got a lawyer, like this guy did. He got a patent on this "riduculus" electric light 24/7 solar device patent# 6660929. There is another granted patent that actually cites this patent and my patent application as "prior art" (I rather not disclose this patent #). This patent deals with the same theory. My hydro and air theories deal with psi pressure on turbine blades and have nothing to do with "middle age technology", They didn't have high pressure electric water pumps or air compressors back then.These ideas are not "perpetual" I made a big mistake and used this word on my patent apps (the ones I did well 5 years ago). By the way I didn't claim to use a "off the shelve motor" on my Dynamotor patent application (my latest ultility patent app). I was misunderstood in a phone conversion with a certain person. I gave up in frustration trying to correct this statement on this particular website. In the patent app itself (patent discription)I claimed the electric motor needed to produce 3600 rpm at full load (for the particular generator I was using) There is no off the shelve motor within the needed power requirments for this particular example. The main reason the patent office denied my applications was due to the fact they required me to build prototypes (I tried but I didn't have the funds to build a proper prototype) If I had hired the right patent attorney I probaly could got around this requirment. The person who started this thread said something about the "mib's" I'm not worried about them at all(the government), but I'm a little concern about some people from Oklahoma who tried to claim some my ideas as there own( there so stupid they could be dangerous) I thought of each one of my 11 concepts (that I did patents on) all my myself with no help from anyone and I will keep working alone and behind the scenes promoting these ideas (the concepts themselves are in my opinion to basic in nature to be patented) The componets used in these concepts are a totally different story.If these concepts work (which I do believe the underlying basic concepts do work) The legal nightmare will take years to sort out. By that time it will be to late for the human race (for the most part) Well anyway, I hate forums (because all the negativity I've encountered on them) I've had the exact same things said me at least 20 times on forums and so called experts in person (the middle ages connection and the pertual motion remarks) I have a good "lol" whenever someone "lol" at me on a post. I probably won't respond to anymore on this thread if anyone wants to talk to me you can e-mail me Robert Jackson (an American)
Hans,I feel force into doing this post and I do resent it. I think the rat in the maze applies to you more than me,after all 30 years is how long you spent trying to figure out what Keely did or where you referring to yourself when you said this. I've only been at it for 6 years. I think Keely was a great man and I think it was a shame what the powers that be at the time(JP Morgan) did to him. I think your results will be the same in the next 30 years as the last 30 years.Net result =0.I will now use a quote from you directed at me "You shouldn't get belligerent when someone like me points this out" I have my own therories on how Keely did it. As for myself any efforts of mine will be with my 5th fe device (my favorite) My self charging battery ( my theory on how the ancient egyptians created electricity) I plan on improving a prior patent I've done on this(unpublished).I will take these ideas to my grave. Anything I do in the future is just for myself.My will to save the world has left me lol Well anyway, I think you should put some more cheese in that maze and then you might get somewhere.
Rob the person who started this thread did so as a means to elevate himself from defaming myself.
I would not take this person seriously, i have learned the hard way and got my time wasted.
absorb what is useful reject what is useless.
I feel everyone has a right to voice there opinion. Here is another tidbit: If the patent office thought my hydro patent app was so ridiculus then why did they send me copies of 3 patents they claim was" prior art" to my patent app (all 3 dealt with electric water pumps and hydro generators) All claim to produce more power than it took to run the water pumps. 2 were Japenese done in 1983 and 1 was american. 1 of the japanese patents claim to have a working device that had 33% overunity(this one was similar to my idea). The patents were in japanese except for the drawings,
I would like to clarify something else: Only 5 of my patent apps were rejected not 9 .The patent office claimed my ideas were impossible but at the same time presented me with numerous examples of prior art (my main promblem). Patents are virtually impossible to get without a patent attorney. By the way how many patents do you guys have (the people who did posts on this thread) If any, are they worth anything? I hold people to same standards that are placed on me(by the patent office and others) prove it by building a working device or shut up. I hope someone does. Robert Jackson Tsing Hua University say: Soundman finds lost chord and lead out enough energy to power China
Rob WE will test /verify /work on your ideas and follow through with our education and reforms towards the patent office. Thats all that really matters to us, not negative comments we can think for our selfs.
People doing a thing about tech(building) and working towards social reforms of the oil/patent offices don't waste each others time, it seems you and i have let our guard down, its a shame to waste energy on trying to convince others who do not look into things or are not hard core activist.
i only returned here to see if a banned user who has returned and makes all sorts of time wasting threads was removed, it seems i have a personal message by stefan but this is not to remove such a user, this is a request for information which i will honor as i stated on my last posts but not frequent these threads too much crap to sort through.
people know where to find me.,
Ashtweth, Thanks for everything. I have the ultmost respect for you,because of your hard work. I know you really try and just don't talk about things. I hope I haven't cause you any promblems. Thanks again for everything, Rob
Rob Not at all in fact you have been responsible for a greater part of the progress on our patent page, this will help when the world see's it, the two engineers who have a working WFC are working us through a replication, and this is going to be the catalyst we are going to use spread awareness, and get a make shift lab to provide RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT for engineers like you, that what and why we started the non profit organization, to provide non discriminatory lab conditions and social reform.
and support engineers like you and others
Im not concerned with any thing else an it will never influence us.
Id like to say thanks for your efforts and to not let any thing influence you, i know you wont.,
QuoteRobert Jackson's Life on Mars Theory
I theorize that Mars had life on it in the distant past. I believe that Mars was warmer at one time.Mars either had to be closer to the Sun or the Sun had to be hotter for this to happen.
I believe the Sun has been at a fairly constant temperature for billions of years.
I theorize that Mars was about the same distance from the Sun as Earth is today,at sometime in the distant past.
I'll call this area of the solar system "the life zone of the solar system".
Earth is in the middle of this "life zone" now.
I think that Venus,Earth,and Mars are slowly pulling away from the Sun (for whatever reason).I theorize that this has been going on for quite sometime very slowly overall.
I think that Mars moved very slowly out of the "life zone" and the life on the planet died out due to the cold climate and the changing atomosphere.
The Earth at the same time moved further into the "life zone".
Earth will eventually move out of this "life zone" and Venus will slowly move into it.I theorize this will take millions of years to do.
I theorize that when a planet first enters the "life zone"(like Venus will do eventually)primitive life forms will developed,as the climate and atomosphere become conducive for the life forms to developed.
I theorize that the Earth went thru this transition. For example: I theorize that during the time of the dinosaurs,that Earth was closer to the Sun and generally warmer.(around a million miles closer)
I think mars had a advanced civilization. This civilization died off due to the cold climate and changing atomosphere.
Here are 3 other possibilities that I came up with for this to happen:
The Sun was hotter at one time and this enable life on Mars to exist,but this would of meant that Earth would of been much warmer too (maybe to warm for life or maybe not).
Another possibility is that a huge object (asteroid or comet) knock Mars out of the "life zone". (there is no evidence of this that I'm aware of)
Another possibility is that Jupiter was a small Sun in the distant past and this generated enough warmth and light to enable life to developed and be sustained on Mars for a very long time (the orbit of mars and other planets would be effected by Jupiters increased gravitational pull) Mars may of revolve around Jupiter if this were the case. I'm not a scientist,nor do I have the "credentials",but I do consider these ideas possibilities and may even be true.
Robert(Rob)Jackson 12-04-2006.
Fascinating!
Hans von Lieven
Hans, I invite you to post my other "thought provoking ideas" or anyone can just go to http://geocities.yahoo.com/search?p=robert+jackson&Submit=Search and here is another one http://www.geocities.com/robertjackson57/great_outdoors.html (please excuse the quality of these webpages).My computer skills are limited.I try to write interesting stuff and maybe help solve a few promblems at the same time.How people judge my writings tells me alot about this person.I stand behind anything I write and I do consider myself a creative person.I really don't care what anyone thinks about me and if they can come up with more "creative stuff" than me power to them.I least I try and I'm proud of myself and that is all that counts to me .I write alot of things Hans 6 screenplays,over 100 songs, and I'm working on interesting book (true story of my efforts to obtain a" high effiency electric generator") I'm getting new material all the time. Robert Jackson