Hi guys and sevich,
I think this gravity wheel deserves a topic of its own.
comes from: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3370.msg52184.html#msg52184
sevich: Maybe this has been tried before Huh
(please ignore the extra paddle below) ...my mistake
Good luck !
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Quote from: FreeEnergy on October 01, 2007, 07:34:26 AM
Hi guys and sevich,
I think this gravity wheel deserves a topic of its own.
comes from: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3370.msg52184.html#msg52184
Hi Mr Free Energy,
Thanx for starting this topic but personaly I believe it's NOT worthy of investigation and any (if workable) due credit would go to forum member "mapsrg" for this drawing !!!, and by the way DAM IT!! , I hate being under the (any) spotlight with regard to "free energy" ...pardon the pun .. :D ;D
No, seriously. I don't know (don't believe) it would work and would'nt give more that 3% chance it would at all ! ......on the other hand it kind of looks as though it might turn !? ......Who knows, maybe if you create / change / to a top and bottom rail for the change over of balls simillar to the "Chas Campbel" (unworkable ??? ) model it could work ?
I guess we could do a "Hansvonlieven" cardboard cut-out with weights attached for a quick test ? :D
Anyway, I'll study it some more and hopefuly perform a test
G'day
will probably not work, cause each ball has to be lifted in significant height two times per revolution. that consumes more power, than the torque out of the unbalanced state of the other balls can deliver. but build it and learn. thats the way to research.
Quote from: Joh70 on October 01, 2007, 09:28:07 AM
will probably not work, cause each ball has to be lifted in significant height two times per revolution. that consumes more power, than the torque out of the unbalanced state of the other balls can deliver. but build it and learn. thats the way to research.
Will consider building it (cardboard-cut-out) and see ....but hey! even if it won't work, this topic can be recycled to other.....
sorry to put you in the spotlight :P
so any improvements to this idea?
Lets look at it closely
If you can get it to work? It would have to be very large to produce any power.
Now lets try something else your gears would have to move at an angle to place the ball on the inside of the wheel ( more like a spiro gear ) and then you would have to have enough energy to spin it with gearing along the rim of the wheel and that would take more energy than you can give. with those size balls. So go with bigger balls and put on AC DC while you build it. ;D
In general a large wheel turing a small wheel requires more energy than a small wheel turning a large wheel. Two small wheels makes things worst. Plus lifting two weights makes it impossible.
First, the big wheel would have to be perfectly balanced.
The small wheels should lift the balls but not at the same time. This cuts down the maximum energy requirement.
But all in all, given friction considerations for such a design to mechaincally work, I'd say don't waste your time. Don't take this as a knock down to then get personally challenged to prove us wrong. because you'll be wasting time.
Don't build anything that does not seem sound on paper from all angles at 99%. Right now this idea is at 10%.
@ Wattsup
QuoteDon't build anything that does not seem sound on paper from all angles at 99%. Right now this idea is at 10%
consider it done! .....just contemplating an actual build was a brain drain....umming & rrring did'nt help!!
Not too stretch this thread any longer but I have worked on very similar ideas in the past and I mathematically have broken down about 95% of it to express the physics behind an over balanced wheel. To say the least it shows (not proves) that a OU wheel will not work. Its simple 100% calculable math. However if the answer is mathematically possible they would have figured it out already. If that answer is there current math will not express it.
Tim