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Energy from Natural Resources => Electrolysis of H20 and Hydrogen on demand generation => Topic started by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 06:37:43 AM

Title: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 06:37:43 AM
It is what it is. skip down the page other posts have better copy's than i did. :) So I removed my snarb.
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 06:39:06 AM
Continued
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 06:40:34 AM
Continued.
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 06:42:10 AM
Continued..
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Farrah Day on November 25, 2007, 06:57:08 AM
Hi Nuts

Quite hard to read, but it seems to me that this is simply a conventional electrolysis cell using high current. ie a booster to aid in decreasing the fuel consumption of standard ICE's and reducing hydrocarbon emmissions.

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 09:36:32 AM
It is what it is... I just thought someone out there might want it.... seeing as it does not exist in the patent data base anymore.      :)
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Paul-R on November 25, 2007, 10:09:18 AM
Interesting. I think this is a Canadian patent:
http://www.google.co.uk/patents?id=oBB9AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=2278917#PPP1,M1
US number is 7,143,722
Paul.
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 05:43:58 PM
Thanks for that Paul. :)
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: utilitarian on November 25, 2007, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Imgoingnuts on November 25, 2007, 06:37:43 AM
I have been holding on to this for over ten years. Thought I better share it. You will notice if you go to the CIPO website it is no longer listed. Its just gone. Completely disappeared. Lucky for us all i saved it when i stumbled across it. I have contacted the Canadian Patents Office three times in the last ten years trying to buy a hard copy of the patent.... to no avail. They tell me there was never a patent registered under that number. Funny, since i downloaded it off their site.....     I also... somewhere in my endless piles of useless data have another patent by an A. Bradley 1976 which is very similar to this one. It too 'Does not exist anymore.....' It was patented by the U.S.A. patent board. Definitely NO supresion of information going on at all......  I have tears in my heart for the whole human race. What are we doing to each other? PLEASE SAVE THIS AND PASS IT ON TO ANYONE WHO CAN DO ANYTHING WITH IT!    I have held on to it long enough.

You have tears in your heart for the human race?  Why are you being such a drama queen?  The Canadian patent number you cited was for a patent application.  Maybe it was rejected, and that is why it is no longer on file.  Obviously it still exists out there.  I think this WIPO patent is for the same thing.  I guess you were crying so hard you did not have time to Google the first sentence of the patent.

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2000006875 (http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2000006875)
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Farrah Day on November 26, 2007, 10:25:12 AM
Does rather make you wonder why anyone would try to patent a standard electrolyser.

Perhaps this person failed to realise that this technique for liberating H2 and O2 from water had already been understood and accomplished a few years back, by a certain, M. Faraday.

A bit like me applying for a patent for the wheel... very odd!
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Grumpy on November 26, 2007, 01:27:02 PM
PDF of this patent from European Patent Office site:

Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 26, 2007, 10:24:24 PM
Thanx Grumpy.
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Imgoingnuts on November 27, 2007, 09:52:18 AM
Hey Check this out...
Just might be the real thing.
(WO/1995/028510) IMPROVEMENTS IN ELECTROLYSIS SYSTEMS AND THE AVAILABILITY OF OVER-UNITY ENERGY
:)

http://www.wipo.int/patentscopedb/en/fetch.jsp?SEARCH_IA=AU1995000220&DBSELECT=PCT&C=10&TOTAL=26&IDB=0&TYPE_FIELD=256&SERVER_TYPE=19&SORT=1222827-KEY&QUERY=%28%22over+unity%22%29+&START=1&ELEMENT_SET=B&RESULT=20&DISP=25&FORM=SEP-0%2FHITNUM%2CB-ENG%2CDP%2CMC%2CAN%2CPA%2CABSUM-ENG&IDOC=12324&IA=AU1995000220&LANG=ENG&DISPLAY=STATUS
Title: Re: CIPO Patent - ELECTROLYSIS CELL AND INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE KIT
Post by: Grumpy on November 27, 2007, 11:44:48 AM
Look at the open-source hydrogen section of this Forum.  It's all there.  Well, maybe not "all", but enough to get started.