I am one amongst many that now understand the dynamics of the TPU most of you saw operating when it was videotaped by Steven Marks back in 1998. This device is an Energy Sink. The dynamics at work here are basically capturing and storing energy in the collector ring. As more energy is concentrated in the ring it begins to develop a gravitational field of it's own. This field becomes stronger than the gravitational field of the earth and starts to attract energy (electrons photons ions) towards it. The magnetic field propogated by the electrical current in the collector ring, assumes a torroidal shape. The interaction of the electrons being drawn towards the collector ring by gravity and the enveloping torroidal magnetic field cause the electrons to first migrate towards the poles of the magnetic field and then inward towards the center of the collector ring. The electrons pop through the magnetic field and enter the ring in such a way as to accelerate the electronic vortex.
SM's machine is a piece of shit. It's like Farady's wires on a string. So there is reason one. It is simply a discovery machine in great need of refinement. The Earth itself is a big tpu with a collector ring (sphere) with an inside diameter of 22 miles.
Mankind really doesn't need a new black hole growing out of some guy's apartment or garage which happens to be under some high tension grid wires. That should be reason one but I'll call it reason two.
This machine was operated in the past inside the ancient pyramids the Egyptians and other "civilizations"/tribes tried to duplicate so they could adore their Gods. The rulers of these ancient tribes were idiots, like most politicians are, and used them for tombs and sacrafices. Call that reason 3. It's been done before on a much grander scale than 800watts out of a two foot copper coil with overheating problems wrapped in electricians tape.
The collector coil should only be used to create the gravitational/magnetic field
profile. The energy migrating towards the poles of the tpu should be CAPTURED ON A CAPACITOR PLATE not tapped from the coil (the coil should be a solid golden ring).
IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE ENERGY THAT REACHES THE VORTEX RING IS
CONTROLLED. The vortex need only be supplied with enough energy to overcome voltage drop inside the golden ring. The channels from the outside of the pyramid to the interior chamber where a tpu type device would have been placed is the only way that loosely bound energy not trapped in a crystalline matrix could enter the vortex. All that needed to be done to control the strength of the gravitational field of the power plant was to place a slate accross the openings of these small tunnels.
I'll call that 3 or am I up to 4?
I would hope that the moderator of this website would do all that is in his or her powers to get the word out on the dangers of dinosaur TPU's and the potential benefits of their proper design and worldwide use. Mankind needs this energy now
before we annhilate ourselves and bring on thousands of years of mankind being barbaryanns again. I would also hope that those of you who have monitored and contributed to this site would help mankind in this endeavour.
I once came accross a posting,by I believe GK,that displayed a transparent pyramid with a beautiful blue light inside of it with a spiral double helix emanating from the top of the pyramid. This picture is worth a million words of mine and I hope that GK or devilsangel would be able to find it and repost it below as an inspiration to all readers.
...and another bites the dust of the road graded by "FreedomFuel" or whatever his name was...what was that thread "Bury the TPU" - or something like that.
Energy Sink - a freakin' black hole!
What's next? Reciever for secret goverment "Tesla Magnifying Transmitter"?
Quote from: Grumpy on December 01, 2007, 11:00:39 PM
...and another bites the dust of the road graded by "FreedomFuel" or whatever his name was...what was that thread "Bury the TPU" - or something like that.
Energy Sink - a freakin' black hole!
What's next? Reciever for secret goverment "Tesla Magnifying Transmitter"?
The hardest part to accept when you successfully build a tpu, is that it immediately collapses up its own a..s..... ;D :D :D :D
Removed.
Never mind, it was my problem, not this site. I have disabled all ActiveX controls for this site and my IE messed up html rendering completely. As a result a message was referred to a wrong person.
@grumpy
From your post here I persume that you think backengineering a primitive discovery device is a worthwhile endeavour even when given the dynamics of the devices operating principals. Blackhole potential maybe. Destruction of the operator very likely. The coil could easily overheat to the point that it becomes an ionized gas. Further input (remember all this thing needs to run is a dipole form of energy which is pretty prevalent on earth day and night), and the ionized gas turns into a plasma. I don't know about you, but I don't think a fire extinguisher is going to cool down a plasmic vortex real soon. WHY RISK IT? and furthermore why promote replication of a primitive form of this machine when the underlying theory of operation is in front of your nose.
These backengineers might as well spend their free time backengineering the first electric motors of the 19th century. It is alot safer and less expensive.
Why ? Bacause so many people have explanations for the TPU, but no one has one that works like those shown in SM's video's.
SM may be the "anticrist", or a servant of Baal, or Azazel himself but as long as his device goes "unduplicated", then the jury is still out.
Primitive form or energy production? Maybe so. You got something better? No? Didn't think so.
I believe Tesla work is more "natural" but I can not at this point rule out that the TPU may work by the same principles. If you can so easily cast it aside - so be it - but don't expect everyone else to follow.
Until we understand what "electricity", "magnetism", and "current" really are - we are strapped.
@ sparks,
welcome back.
lol
sam
ps:oh by the way, thanks!!!
i do owe sm an apoligy indeed
it is this man or men alone that brought this whole thing to light for only 1 reason to point to the answer :)
i beleave im at the most basic level lol and sm is miles ahead to be honest i only now see this
duh!!!!
mannix i am sory to say words that may have offended you we all here at ou owe all of this to you
you were the messanger and i think you did a damm good job ;)
i do infact know exactly what my job is here
but im still not at a point to explain why it works 100%
william
Ok, Sparks, go ahead and build it to prove you are right....
We need facts not words... :)
The coils heating up?? Anyone have this problem? Nice story! ;D
4Tesla
@Grumpy
Maybe SM is the anti-christ, he had those beady little black eyes, I never did trust him or anyone that wears a necktie.
thats good one :D
I agree! I'm working on other OU devices.. but the MTPU is such an efficient and simple circuit, it is worth playing with... just need my toroids :)
4Tesla
Granted that what is being sought is unknown in the level of energy.
Play the.... Plug is Right. With a 110 volts drill and being in front of 10 matching electrical plugs. Each plug has an unknown power level. Plug the drill into the wrong receptacle and boom. We just don't know.
I wonder how much magnetic, gravitational or imploding attraction is required to pull a nail out of a 2 by 4. That was done by a TV before or while it blew up or vaporized.
Does the universe have more static or magnetic energy?
Well judging by nature, one that could generate immense static discharges here on Earth would again be a thundercloud. So are there more clouds in the universe than solid bodies of magnetic energy? I'd say 1 billion to one on clouds.
Frog brain: See black dot. See black dot get bigger. See black dot get bigger again. Stick out tongue. Retract tongue. Swallow. This is an automatism in the nature of the frog to eat a fly and therefore survive. Every thing has an automatic reaction, weather we know it or not.
So, if ether, stuck in the vacuum of space evolved with some type of universal intelligence, what would it do automatically as its base nature?
I'd say.....
1) Go towards the nearest static field
and
2) Static fields can be found in gaseous clouds or near magnetic events.
or,
3) Follow the other guy.... like ants. (Actually like humans too...)
and
4) If none of the above is evident, wait until you sense the vibration of any of the above.
So maybe the TPU should emulate...
1) A miniature static cloud.
2) A magneto static event.
Either way, it has to be an ether attracting and collecting device. This for the inventor has to be as clear and accepted as anything else that is evident in this world. You are fishing for ether so you need the right lure and strong enough tackle. The juice is everywhere, but how much can you take?
So as long as we are working with miniature devices, we're creating miniature events. The dangerous big event would have to be extremely big, since we know that even a nuclear bomb is not enough to destroy the Earth. Well..... yes it would make one hell of a mess.
There would have to be one rule. If there is no control when attracting ether, ether will always win, over any device. So yes, we should realize (and respect) the immensity into which we are searching to plug or future machines.
So in trying to build a TPU style device (because SM TPU replication is impossible) there is no harm in studying what came before (or what came and disappeared in a flash). Study and build what ever you want. Just doing something is better then just living your life like a frog. And if you hear thunder, duck.
This used to be a nice bar where a guy could shot the shite and enjoy some suds.
grumpy is right
sm word's
OK the point is; YOU CAN GET SOME ENERGY OUT OF THE EARTH!
Next point; YOU CAN DO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE WITH A WIRE TO
SHOW THIS.
Next point; YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU CAN GET MORE OUT OF A PIECE
OF WIRE THEN YOU PUT IN TO IT.
WE are not talking about a coil or a transformer or anything developing a
primary to secondary flux.
We are just talking about a straight piece of wire, some electrons and a
method of measuring what comes out of it.
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"
wire's and magnet
so back to basic
:) ;) 8)
Histeam!! ruin2ne??
Quote from: zapnic on December 08, 2007, 08:57:12 AM
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"
Got those references handy?
:P
Way to go Grumpy! Well said! Thumbs up! :) ;)
4Tesla
Quote from: Grumpy on December 07, 2007, 11:43:20 PM
Bunch of damn rocket scientist around here. This used to be a nice bar where a guy could shot the shite and enjoy some suds. Now we have gravitational vortex blackholes and crap like that.
What the hell does a black hole have to with SM's comments about the littel bit of extra energy you get when electrons first start to flow? Hmm? Not a damn thing.
What does Schumann resonances have to do with the TPU? It's a analogy. Schumann resonances are relatd to teh diameter of the earth and the TPU collector has a resonance related to it's diameter. Any idea what sort of potential it takes to resonate with the earth? No one here is going to make it thats for damn sure. SM stated that the energy came from within the device - not gravitational vortices and crap like that.
What about SM's comments about Tao having the secret when he spoke of capacitors discharged into the control wires? What no time shift? No anti-gravity? Ah shucks!
What about SM's comments on electrons faster than the speed of light? Ever seen Eric Dollards tables on superluminal wave velocity in Tesla Transformers? What? No UFO? Damn, and I was so close...
While I'm at it, you can make a magnetic field with out changing electrical energy and without moving a conductor or magnet. None of you know that because you are stuck in the damn Matrix.
As for the TPU being "old technology" or "obsolete" or "dangerous" - give me a damn break! Farting next to a fire is "dangerous". Damn IPod is "obsolete" and computers are "old technology".
Furthermore, SM has already told you haw the damn thing works - twenty different times and ten different ways - and off we go slamming crap together, burning shit up, and making up physics laws that should never exist outside of a damn cartoon.
Does anyone remember the small little comment SM made about the lengths of the controls and collectors being important? If not then you are too damn busy recreating the damn universe!
If something runs with gain, you do not need several damn amps pumping into it.
What about when SM connects a load to that one TPU and the voltage drops from like 600 to 150 or something lke that - what the hell does that tell you? TPU has a load limit. Well, no shit... - Ever heard of damping? Overdamping? See something interesting there? Overdamp with too great a resistive load and the voltage goes way down...
To my two friends - to which "building is an addiction" - this 36-pack is for you!
EDIT: notice somthing odd about that rotating magnetic field in the TPU when it first starts up? SM they found that the drection was opposite in the southern hemisphere - not that it had to be opposite - that is was. This is a secondary effect. What about the statement that the compass spins and then just stops and when it stops the unit is at about it's max. What sort of change to a wave would cause the compass to stand still?
Quote from: Grumpy on December 08, 2007, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: zapnic on December 08, 2007, 08:57:12 AM
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"
Got those references handy?
YES
Quote from: kames on December 08, 2007, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on December 08, 2007, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: zapnic on December 08, 2007, 08:57:12 AM
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"
Got those references handy?
YES
Then what are they? I'd like to check them out.
Quote from: Grumpy on December 08, 2007, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: kames on December 08, 2007, 10:05:58 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on December 08, 2007, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: zapnic on December 08, 2007, 08:57:12 AM
I even gave you some easy to obtain references to this phenomenon in a
few technical journals
"little mystery what are these journals?"
Got those references handy?
YES
Then what are they? I'd like to check them out.
What is public is public, what is private is private. I can give you only public references. I won?t provide any pictures or drawings. The time has gone for it. Search the web for ?moving electron mass by potential?. It does take a very careful reading and going into a math a little. It took me about 30 articles to go through before I could understand a lot of things for myself. Otherwise, it would be very difficult to understand what can possibly change the electron potential and how to do that in practice and a lot of things described by SM. What I have found resulted in forgetting all my old tpus and building a new one that looks like the very first open tpu in the SM?s video.
Kames.
yup..
Here is a few Ideas I am going to try over xmas vacation. The idea is to use a blocking type oscillator and use a torrid coil for the oscillator. The feedback loop is to locate the torrid close to the flux field so the oscillator is influenced by the collectors. The output of the collectors can be (I will try this also) connected to a capacitor for charge storage and to create an LC network. The capacitor value, I think, should be selected to tune the collector circuit to oscillate at a harmonic of the primary oscillator (kicks anyone?). The magnet is used to couple the coils provide some magnification and perpetuate the oscillations since the Blocking Oscillator would not have a feedback coil wound on the torrid but get its feedback signal from the flux field which is amplified/coupled by the magnets field.
The coils I think should be wound non-symetrical, i.e. oval shaped (SM's design shows this for his TPU's)
I got this idea from the leedskin designs and the open frame TPU. All of SM's TPU's have a small Torrid which might be part of the oscillators tank.
As for the oscillators operating frequency, maybe one of the frequencies mentioned by SM or maybe the NMR of the coils material.
This should be simple enough to put together and test this theory of mine.
Quote from: Grumpy on December 07, 2007, 11:43:20 PM
EDIT: notice somthing odd about that rotating magnetic field in the TPU when it first starts up? SM they found that the drection was opposite in the southern hemisphere - not that it had to be opposite - that is was. This is a secondary effect. What about the statement that the compass spins and then just stops and when it stops the unit is at about it's max. What sort of change to a wave would cause the compass to stand still?
Hi Grumpy,
Is this an actual phrase from SM or did you reword it? The only bit i know about is where SM commented that in the southern hemisphere it works in reverse. Not mentioning WHAT exactly works in reverse....
If SM did actually say it like in the phrase then the RMF is indeed a secondary effect....
regards
Robert
My proposed ideas above are very simplistic and very inexpensive. The coils size would be/could be rather small. The counter wound collectors provide flux cancellation and several of these can be built and interconnected in series or parallel to increase voltage or current output.
The rotating filed is probably produced by a standing wave being set up by the sending coil and ceases once the oscillator reaches resonance
I see similarities to Dr Stifflers circuits as well. Comments are welcomed and encouraged to the above.
so you have wire and magnet
take wire and make spiral"like Tesla turbine"flat coil?
or make the "Smith coil"?
and swing magnet see what happens ???
maybe wrong maybe right
let see
yup...
@Grumpy
The only way to rotate a magnetic field is to put the magnets or temporary magnets on an armature and spin them. Magnetic lines of force are just that: lines of force. In an electric motor they talk about rotating magnetic fields, but they are just pulsating magnetic fields that look like a rotating magnetic field to the observer (rotor in an induction motor). I believe that magnetism is concentration of vectored flowing energy (black energy anti-photons whatever you want to call this sea of flowing energy we're being in) SM was talking about a rotating magnetic field because as his tpu ramped up it was pulsating in current strength along his ringed collector windings. I think SM was getting paid to develop a new kind of magnetless speaker and moonlighted the krap out of RCA on the TPU he discovered inadvertantly. Rotating magnetic field my ass.
Thanks much to my friends that pulled my arse off the "Matrix Tit".
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Well, good luck with your approach ;)
As for imagination and designing - there are two years worth of that on this forum - megabytes worth.
If you build from the "mind" - you already have the design - damn that almost rhymes - could be a catchy slogan or motto - got to write that down...
The truth is, neither is right or wrong. It's all a matter of order. But no matter which you start with, building or understanding/hypothesizing, both are necessary to reach the end goal, and you will eventually perform both activities. They go hand-in-hand.
How you go about things and the order in which you do them is personal choice. About half the folks are builders, and half are thinkers. To date, both have learned, but neither is any further ahead of the other in terms of reaching the finish line.
sometimes it pays to do both think and build .......
as im sure many still dont
however this is the way the game is played .........
ist
test,Just wanted a link back to this topic.