I started this thread so we can start with the basics.
First we must find out exactly what electricity is before we can find the best way to produce and or collect it.
I personally believe electricity is nothing more the a compressed frequency. I believe finding that and or those frequencies is what we should be focusing on.
Quote from: nightlife on December 16, 2007, 09:00:49 PM
I personally believe electricity is nothing more the a compressed frequency.
Frequency of what? And what does "compressed" mean in relation to a frequency in this context?
These words that you're using already have perfectly good meanings, dude. If you want to use them to communicate, you should use them to stand for what they mean. That's pretty much what words are for.
Cheers,
Mr. Entropy
Compressed frequency?
You mean like wound up tighter?
Like a "dense vibration"?
Mr.Entropy, "Frequency of what?"
That is what I would like to know.
"compressed"
I am assuming that when a frequency is gathered in a magnetic field it would be considered as a compressed frequency.
Grumpy, please refer to the reply above.
All must remember that this is my opinion at this time and if it should change, I will post it as well as a reason why.
Electricity is simply magnetic flux passing through wire in streams.
Electricity is hard to make without magnets.
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 02:04:30 AM
Electricity is simply magnetic flux passing through wire in streams.
Sorry but that doesn't make sense.
I highly suggest you look at the most simple answer...
...the answer is:
You can not make electricity without magnets. It doesn't get any more simple than that..
Electricity is the same energy that is circulating through a permanent magnet.
I tell you what. (LOL) Take 2 wires and put it into your wall socket slots, one in each hand, not a good idea but you will feel the current and if you survive (LOL)learn to read a book. It is well documented.
0ne, "You can not make electricity without magnets. It doesn't get any more simple than that."
Electricity is made from resistance and is made without magnets. Magnets are only used to move electricity.
AB Hammer, please don't test my intellegence with idiotic replys like the one you just gave. Your reply had nothing to do with the question.
If you know what it is, then please say it. I may have been better off asking what electric is becuase that is what we are all trying to make. So, if you know what electic is, then please tell us.
Damn! Freaks come out of the woodwork when you ask a question on this forum.
???
Electric is resistance and the flow of resistance is electricity. Resistance is created when two objects and or forces are rubbed together. The faster they are rubbed together, the faster the flow. The harder they are rubbed together, the stronger the resistance. Therefore we should be able to rub a frequency together with something that resist a frequency to create electric.
With that said, what will resist a frequency? I will start a new thread for this question.
Quote from: nightlife on December 17, 2007, 02:02:00 PM
Electricity is made from resistance and is made without magnets. Magnets are only used to move electricity.
If you know what it is, then please say it. I may have been better off asking what electric is becuase that is what we are all trying to make. So, if you know what electic is, then please tell us.
I just frikken said it. Why on Earth is the title of your topic "What is electricity?" (a question), if you think you already know what it is???
The truth is, you, and many people are 100% clueless, and you are being taught wrong by science!!!!
Electricity
IS ONLY MAGNETIC FORCE!!!Don't believe me??? Test me...
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Have you ever wondered where electricity comes from? You might be surprised to learn that it comes from magnets!
In the early 1800s, Michael Faraday discovered ?electromagnetic induction? ? the scientific way of saying that if he moved a magnet through a loop of wire, the wire would become electrified.
Go back to school, and open your eyes this time.. but don't believe everything you are told in school, because our knowledge today is just like a rumer that is being changed every time it is passed on.
http://www.alliantenergykids.com/stellent2/groups/public/documents/pub/phk_eb_ae_001467.hcsp
The biggest flaw in the "electricity theory" is that all the idiots go from "magnet to electricity". They are BOTH THE SAME THING! Electricity is only magnetic force traveling in streams through wire!!
Even Ed Leedskalnin was smart enough to see this. Do not get brainwashed by todays knowledge, because it is not correct.
I told most of you people about this in this thread:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3704.msg63083.html#msg63083
...i understand that you all will pass me off as some random nobody, but let me tell you.... I know something that is going to change the world... i am not some random nobody.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction
IF you people don't take me serious, you will all die in a very violent way. The higher powers will take advantage of your lack of knowledge. Knowledge is power, because knowledge is literaly magnetic force that gets recorded into your mind like the magnetic force records on a tape deck, or computer hard drive. Knowledge is literaly power, becuase it is magnetic force, and that is what electricity is...
Your body, your things, dirt, air, grass, wood, metal, rock, water, all of it, everything, is a giant clump of magnets.
@nightlife
QuoteElectricity is made from resistance and is made without magnets. Magnets are only used to move electricity
Im not sure I would agree with you on this point, any opinion to be proven correct must apply in "every" case and not just a few instances or it is false.
- RF electricity moves through the air without magnets, it will move through a vacuum as well which offers no resistance. RF electricity is still electricity only the properties have changed.
- Static electricity on one object can charge another object in an opposite sense without resistance as long as it does not try to move away from that object and it does so without magnets, static electricity is electricity only its properties have changed, as RF and static electricity can produce the electricity we know in our circuits.
QuoteElectric is resistance and the flow of resistance is electricity
Again I have issues with this statement, superconductors are unique in that they offer no resistance to electricity and thus are perfect conductors, If what you propose is true then superconductors should not conduct nor should electricity flow in them.
Quote from: allcanadian on December 17, 2007, 02:34:57 PM
- RF electricity moves through the air without magnets, it will move through a vacuum as well which offers no resistance. RF electricity is still electricity only the properties have changed.
- Static electricity on one object can charge another object in an opposite sense without resistance as long as it does not try to move away from that object and it does so without magnets, static electricity is electricity only its properties have changed, as RF and static electricity can produce the electricity we know in our circuits.
Again I have issues with this statement, superconductors are unique in that they offer no resistance to electricity and thus are perfect conductors, If what you propose is true then superconductors should not conduct nor should electricity flow in them.
Correction:
RF = radio frequency = electro
magnetic radiation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum
RF itself is MAGNETIC.
The AIR that RF travels through is composed of different ATOMS. All ATOMS are made of Protons, Electrons, and Neutrons. Protons and Electrons carry "electric charges", and these "electric charges" create a "electro
magnetic" field around it. AIR ITSELF IS MADE OF MAGNETIC FORCE!!!!!!!!!
please believe me and research!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interaction
Electricity, Magnetism, Electro
magnetism.......they didn't cram these two words together for no reason you know?
Static Electricity is created because of the fact that EVERYTHING IS MADE OF SUBATOMIC MAGNETS. Rub any two objects together, and you create the same effect that you see in an alternator or generator. Magnets moving over a conductor.
A permanent magnet is a superconductor.
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 02:33:45 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction
IF you people don't take me serious, you will all die in a very violent way. The higher powers will take advantage of your lack of knowledge. Knowledge is power, because knowledge is literaly magnetic force that gets recorded into your mind like the magnetic force records on a tape deck, or computer hard drive. Knowledge is literaly power, becuase it is magnetic force, and that is what electricity is...
Your body, your things, dirt, air, grass, wood, metal, rock, water, all of it, everything, is a giant clump of magnets.
So, Mr Know It All, what are you doing with your newly acqurired knolwedge? Hmm? Going to lead us all to salvation? Save the world? End the "Oil Non-Crisis"?
Oh, and "What is a magnet?
I'm going to do the same thing Nikola Tesla did. I'm going to tell random people what is possible in this lifetime. I am going to get mocked and laughed at. In return, instead of telling you all The Secret To The Universe, I will just invent things, and release them slowly to the world without telling exactly how they work.
A magnet?
A permanent magnet is just a hunk of protons and electrons in such an arrangment that you classify it as metal. These atom's are capable of holding extra magnetic force in them, only if you get the magnetic force to loop infinitly in it. So when you get a hunk of atoms called metal, and you magnetise it with "electromagnetism, you have a permanent magnet.
The smallest magnets in the Universe are made of two black holes that suck in everything including light. This is why magnetism can pass through ALL objects. Because they are black holes that suck in all matter, and light. That is also why you can't see it.
IF any of you knew how to read Ancient Egyptian writings, you may know this. Its funny that the Ancient Egyptians will be back soon..
I can get a permanent magnet, and take away its magnetic force, and put it into something else, so all that is left is a hunk of metal. I can do the same thing with a human soul, I can take it away, and put it into something else, so all that is left is a hunk of flesh and bone. If i wanted i can even put that soul back.
YOU are a magnet. Your thoughts control your "North" and "South". "The Law Of Attraction" IS REAL. Unfortunetly, so is "The Law Of Repulsion".
---The oil crisis only exists because ALL knowledge of today comes from the same source. That source is incorrect. When you gain knowledge of the TRUTH, then you will have no crisis.
The TRUTH is that EVERYTHING is made of the same substance. Magnetism.
WOW! ;D wow :P
what an ENERGY ONE !
Why are you on O U Website ?? H mmm?
One: The TRUTH is that EVERYTHING is made of the same substance. Magnetism.
really????????????????????????????
Hans von Lieven
Every object in the entire universe is made of atoms, which are pretty much mini magnets. Magnets work in numbers, and they combine in strength when you touch them together.
When you add 1 north magnet, and 1 south magnet together, you get Hydrogen. This is the lightest element on Earth because it is made of so little magnets, meaning its attraction strength to the Earth's magnetism is small. Add 2 more magnets to hydrogen and you get Helium, the second lightest element on Earth. Keep adding the magnets together in the right arrangment, and you can make every element in the periodic table, including elements that don't exists here on Earth yet.
Look at any object around you. For example, a shoe. This is a mixture of clumps of magnets that is arranged in such a way that we call it a shoe. This shoe has a center of "gravity" just like everything else. What you don't see is that Earth is a giant magnet. EARTH IS CONSTANTLY REMAGNETISING EVERY OBJECT ON EARTH. When you pick this shoe up and move it around, up side down, right side up, vertical, horizontal, every way you move it, Earth is constantly remagnetising its center of "gravity". Changing the polarity.
Every object in the North hemisphere is magnetised with South down, and North up. In the South hemisphere, all objects are magnetised with North down, and South up.
If you learn how to change this, you know anti-gravity. Just like I know anti-gravity, and just like Ed Leedskalnin knew anti-gravity, just like the Ancient Egyptians new it.
A baseball is a clump of magnets, and a baseball bat is a clump of magnets too. When you hit the baseball with your baseball bat, you magnetise it. Just like you can magnetise a carpenters nail with a hammer, when it is pointed North and South. When you hit the baseball, you change the poles in its center of gravity to repel from the Earth magnet. While the baseball is repeling from Earth, and moving across Earth in the air, it is slowly being re-magnetised back to normal by Earth, making it fall back to the ground.
This is an exmaple of how you can use "kentic energy" to magnetise an object so that its poles are flipped opposite of Earths poles, and it will repel, like anit-gravity.
Physics have been wrong for a while now.
p.s. I am on OverUnity, because I know that all of you are after the same thing I was after, and found.
I'll ask differently:
What is magnetism?
It's not against you , One
but one man Named Lao TSEU said
The one who knows don't speak
The one who speak don't know
Just to be thought ....
You have too mutch energy and knowledge for those guys !
maybe you are wright , maybe you're really wrong .
best love
Ok ;)
What did you find ?
Overunity ?
nightlife
Sorry for the little joke. It just seems to be an unusable question to me.
There are several of us still trying to make a motor run off gravity, and I may just have the one that will, under all test so far, it can not reach equelibrium in any postion and just a little bit more construction it will be ready for test.
So good luck on your quest, may you find what you are looking for.
:-X
Magnetism... is the 0ne ultimate true power. Magnetism is the Alpha and the Omega. It created everything in this Universe. It is all powerfull, and because it create all things, it has knowledge of all things. It can even record and remember all things, just like a computer hard drive uses magnetism to record. Magnetism is God.
God is made of both Angels and Demons. Attractions and Repulsions. Negitives and Positives. Yings and Yangs. Norths and Souths, Goods and Bads. Everything and Northing at the same time.
Magnetism is composed of miniature black holes. Those black holes are a very small part of the 0ne true power.
Quote from: titof on December 17, 2007, 04:00:49 PM
It's not against you , One
but one man Named Lao TSEU said
The one who knows don't speak
The one who speak don't know
Just to be thought ....
You have too mutch energy and knowledge for those guys !
maybe you are wright , maybe you're really wrong .
best love
The saying...
The one who knows don't speak
The one who speak don't know
...Is very poetic and is filled with a message, but is highly incorrect, because numbers are inifnite, that means there are infintie possiblities. The only difference between all elements is the number of protons and electrons, and the arrangment. The periodic table of elements starts with 1 and goes up to about 118. Does that mean there are no elements with 200? No... numbers are infinite, there is an element 1000, and element 212131, and element 122345252901854234523.... ect.
This means,
the 0ne who knows has an option to speak, only greed would keep him from speaking. Since the force is with me, and I am not on the dark side, greed is enemy.
Good Lord
Another Bowser
Hans von Lieven
0ne
When are you going to open your new Chruch? And what are you going to call it?
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 04:15:05 PM
Magnetism... is the 0ne ultimate true power. Magnetism is the Alpha and the Omega. It created everything in this Universe. It is all powerfull, and because it create all things, it has knowledge of all things. It can even record and remember all things, just like a computer hard drive uses magnetism to record. Magnetism is God.
God is made of both Angels and Demons. Attractions and Repulsions. Negitives and Positives. Yings and Yangs. Norths and Souths, Goods and Bads. Everything and Northing at the same time.
Magnetism is composed of miniature black holes. Those black holes are a very small part of the 0ne true power.
Since this "magnetism" you speak of is a property of the "spin" that creates it, and yes all the things you call magnets have a spin to them, isn't the spin primary to magnetism? So, "spin" is fundamental.
Quote from: AB Hammer on December 17, 2007, 04:31:39 PM
0ne
When are you going to open your new Chruch? And what are you going to call it?
"The new magnetic church of the ONE and only spindoctor"
...We believe in the power of the spin,
praise its manifestation in all its appearances,
as long as the holly reactor will blow,
we praise its magnetic hood,
the static, the dynamic and the wave,
for now and delta t,
amag......
Wonderful Fritz,
A little more of that and you will become THE spiritual adviser to the United Nations :D
Hans
The spin only exists when the North and South are attracted to each other. When the North and South are alone, there is no spin.
The spin is always right hand. Always clockwise.
p.s. Church is a lie. God is everywhere, not just in a Church.
b.t.w the Bible will tell you about magnetism.
God = Magnetism
Jesus Christ = Son Of God
Son Of God was able to walk on water. Why? Because water is diamagnetic.
I invented a very powerfull magnet, that will part water. With the right power source, coughthesunandearthcough, I can trap that power, and direct it downwards, into the ocean. This will create a perfect HOLE IN WATER, so that i can see the bottom of the ocean.
Son Of God was able to feed thousands with a small piece of bread. Why? Because bread is made of magnets, and magnets are all around us. If you knew the resonance of bread, and knew how to replicate that resonance, the bread will grow. Just like Ed Leedskalnin grew coral rock around an axle using electricity, to make his 9 ton gate, perfectly balanced. "Don't feed her too much".
Son Of God was able to turn water into wine.. Well, if you were a magnetic manipulator, just like chemistry, just like alchemy, you can make your own wine. Instantly.
Son Of God was able to die and come back to life. Because death doesn't exist. When the magntism leaves a permanent magnet, it just goes somewhere else. It can go back if needed. Your soul is nothing more than magnetic force trapped in a loop.
I have always wondered how Moses parted the Red Sea.
Now I know, he had a f*cking magnet. WOW
Hans von Lieven
He himself is a magnet, just like you and I. He knew how to channel that magnetism that is all around us.
When you put your hand on an object, and with your figures you put pressure on it (grip it) so that you can lift it. You are actually channeling magnetic force through your body, and into that object. The more grip you have, the more magnetic strength you are putting into the object.
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 05:14:03 PM
The spin only exists when the North and South are attracted to each other. When the North and South are alone, there is no spin.
The spin is always right hand. Always clockwise.
Wrong. Spin has no fixed direction or polarity.
Edit: Spin exist indepenedent of magnetism.
@one
Do you have children?
ERS
Quote from: Grumpy on December 17, 2007, 05:44:39 PM
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 05:14:03 PM
The spin only exists when the North and South are attracted to each other. When the North and South are alone, there is no spin.
The spin is always right hand. Always clockwise.
Wrong. Spin has no fixed direction or polarity.
Edit: Spin exist indepenedent of magnetism.
Wrong, spin is always right hand. When you think it is left hand, that is because you are facing the wrong side. If you had a transparent clock that is spinning clockwise, and you turned it around and viewed it from behind, it would appear to be counter clockwise, but its true spin is clockwise.
Same for magnetic force. When north force is traveling through a wire in one direction, it has a right hand twist. When south force is traveling AGAINST the north force, it is also with a right hand twist.
Put your hands together like you are praying, twist them both in opposite directions. No matter which directions you choose, both your hands are spining clockwise. Your eyes just think its spinning a different direction because of your point of view.
Also... nothing exists without magnetism, not even spin.
nope, no children, i do not want to bring new life into the world at this current moment in time. The world is corrupt right now.
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 06:23:18 PM
nope, no children, i do not want to bring new life into the world at this current moment in time. The world is corrupt right now.
On behalf of humanity I say Thank You.
ERS
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on December 17, 2007, 05:44:39 PM
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 05:14:03 PM
The spin only exists when the North and South are attracted to each other. When the North and South are alone, there is no spin.
The spin is always right hand. Always clockwise.
Wrong. Spin has no fixed direction or polarity.
Edit: Spin exist indepenedent of magnetism.
Wrong, spin is always right hand. When you think it is left hand, that is because you are facing the wrong side. If you had a transparent clock that is spinning clockwise, and you turned it around and viewed it from behind, it would appear to be counter clockwise, but its true spin is clockwise.
Same for magnetic force. When north force is traveling through a wire in one direction, it has a right hand twist. When south force is traveling AGAINST the north force, it is also with a right hand twist.
Put your hands together like you are praying, twist them both in opposite directions. No matter which directions you choose, both your hands are spining clockwise. Your eyes just think its spinning a different direction because of your point of view.
Also... nothing exists without magnetism, not even spin.
nope, no children, i do not want to bring new life into the world at this current moment in time. The world is corrupt right now.
Spin is primary to pressure (potential) which is primary to magnetism, and no, you can not change this. You are backwards - looking at the effect as the cause.
Nothing is hidden, not even sarcasm and jokes. ;D
Go outside at night, and look up, you are looking into HEAVEN. The Sun is your father, the Earth is your mother. That is the TRUTH. Why no body is interested in the things above us any more is mind boggling. Some odd reason, the demons wan't everyone to be focusing on TV and other entertainment. ANYTHING to get your mind off of the real reason we are here.
Kids these days look at the stars and and the moon, and think nothing more of it. No more questions, because they "already know". At least they think they do.
If you want to find the TRUTH, then study all that is REAL. What is real? Light, and Force.
Two black holes, north and south, get stuck together. When light is not avalible, you can not see it. When light is avalible, it gets trapped and stuck inbetween the two black holes. Change the strength of the black holes, and you in turn change the color of the light trapped in the middle. Thats all everything is. Everything is pixelated to a subatomic scale.
Turn off all lights, or destroy the Sun. You won't see anything because there is no light for the magnetism to trap. Although, if you walk around you will feel everything. You will feel the repulsions and attractions, at a subatomic scale. Everything is magnetic force, and all current day knowledge is based on visual LIGHT. This is why current knowledge is wrong. Basing everything on what we see, when we only see light, and not magnetism, is the wrong way to go. Light only gives us opinion. Not truth.
Grumpy you are not correct...
Pay attention. Spin = movement. Nothing can move unless there is an outside force. Right? Isn't that the law your teachers have told you?
Newton, 3 Laws of Motion:
1: An object will remain at rest, or continue to move at a constant velocity, unless an external net force acts upon it.
2: Net force on an object is equal to its rate change of momentum.
3: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
Please tell me, how is there "spin"? What made the spin? What started it?
MAGNETIC FORCE!!!!!!
Law 3, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means, that magnetic force can not move, or travel, unless there is both North and South. For electricity to move through a wire, from - to +, there must be an equal and opposite reaction.
Ed Leedskalnin, and I, both agree that electricity is TWO SIDED. Todays world is only using ONE SIDE of electricity, and the tools to measure it are only measuring one side, that is the electron side. There is another side to electricity going the equal opposite direction. Just like magnetic force. Magnetic force can not move unless both North and South are present.
Spin does not exist without magnetic force.
Humans, who created the word "spin" wouldn't exist without magnets. This Earth, the Sun, the Stars, Everything would be non-existant without magnetism.
YOU are backwards.
Well this is in Half Baked Ideas, but WOW!! what an oven!! and you forgot to pay your electic bill and gas bill.
It takes a resistance to create a magnet and or a magnetic field.
Quote from: 0ne on December 17, 2007, 07:07:01 PM
Grumpy you are not correct...
Pay attention. Spin = movement. Nothing can move unless there is an outside force. Right? Isn't that the law your teachers have told you?
Newton, 3 Laws of Motion:
1: An object will remain at rest, or continue to move at a constant velocity, unless an external net force acts upon it.
2: Net force on an object is equal to its rate change of momentum.
3: For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
Please tell me, how is there "spin"? What made the spin? What started it?
MAGNETIC FORCE!!!!!!
Law 3, for every action there is an equal and oppsote reaction. This means, that magnetic force can not move, or travel, unless there is both North and South. For electricity to move through a wire, from - to +, there must be an equal and opposite reaction.
Ed Leedskalnin, and I, both agree that electricity is TWO SIDED. Todays world is only using ONE SIDE of electricity, and the tools to measure it are only measuring one side, that is the electron side. There is another side to electricity going the equal opposite direction. Just like magnetic force. Magnetic force can not move unless both North and South are present.
Spin does not exist without magnetic force.
Humans, who created the word "spin" wouldn't exist without magnets. This Earth, the Sun, the Stars, Everything would be non-existant without magnetism.
YOU are backwards.
Spin is an inherent property of the medium. Who created it? You know who.
We are using conflicting terminology - I say tomato - you say tamoto - we agree to disagree.
One, I don't believe a spin is created by a magnetic force, resistance is what I believe creates a spin and a magnetic force is created by a spin and or a resistance of two different things that can be the same but not attached. It takes moving them in a opposite direction to create the spin.
I have noticed your arrogant attitude in the reply's you have made and please by all means stop with that attitude. We are all only trying to help each other and by having attitudes it only takes longer to resolve a problem.
You keep telling me to go back to school and open my eyes. I left school because my eyes were open and I did not like what I seen. I am here with a open mind not relying on any laws or past discoveries. I am starting from scratch to see if my common sense can help me resolve this problem.
I think the way I do because there is to much deception in what others said and or say. The Bible is a prime example of what I am talking about and millions use it as a tool to learn from and that is one of our society's biggest problems. We need to stop relying on others and start using our common sense.
Well, all this back and forth. Magnetism. and antigravity. Your giving me a me a spinning headache. First, while I agree magnetism is a huge part of the all creation. It absolutely dose NOT exist every where. It is a powerful force of Both nature and man. But it is not where energy comes from. It is only yet another expression of energy like light or sound or yes Grumpy Spin. The only thing known to exist everywhere and always is time flow. God is magnetism? No i don't think so. God is omnipresent Everywhere and always. If we are to try to put a powersource behind the workings of God himself, IMHO the only answer our feeble minds can comprehend is the concept of time itself. Magnetism is a powerful force but it is not everywhere and always. also we mortal humans can manipulate magnitism at will, we put it to work for us. We have mastered it to some degree. Not so with time, and deffinately not so with the creator (God)! Anyway I'd sure like to see this device you have made One. Hows about posting some pics and video? Okay I'm done now. :)
mramos, Keely was said to have made large amounts of Hydrogen of two drops of water. Have you read about any of that and or how he did it?
I believe he tapped in to some vibrating frequencies that are either being held from us knowing about and or he him self took them to his grave. I believe these vibrating frequencies are the key to all our energy problems.
@One
Thanks for coming back here.
In case guys don't know, One had also started a thread here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3704.msg62529.html#msg62529
Actually that shoe analogy is very good. In fact, if every object on Earth was thrown out into open space, each object would have its own gravity. So all of a sudden where did all this gravity come from. So there is no difference if the object is in space, or on Earth. Son of a gun, I can see it.
Now, since Earths gravity acts on all objects in the same manner, like when you simultaneously drop a baseball and a big rock from 200 feet and both will land at the same time. Then can we assume that if you had one big magnet, and placed various different sizes of smaller magnets near the big magnet, this would mean all the smaller magnets would travel at the same speed towards the big magnet once they have entered into the big magnets' attraction field?
I have two questions.
1) Regarding North and South poles, according to your understanding, which is positive and which is negative, or is North and South polarities bidirectional thus oblivious to the positive or negative sides of electricity.
2) Does the electron leave the battery negative and physically travel through a circuit, or, does it simply vibrate against another electron that vibrates another electron, and so on cascading through the circuit?
@nightlife
One would think resistance would hinder a spin. It would be good if you can expand on this thinking cause right now it is hard to grasp what you are trying to say.
@Hans and others
Listen guys, you don't have to be so rude. I think we have always treated you guys with the best of courtesy and you would be expected to extend this same to others. There are many ways to say what you want to say. Why choose the most brutal form. You don't agree, then formulate. Show us your logic.
In my view spin needs energy to spin. If energy is magnetism, then spin needs magnetism.
I think so far, everything One has put forth holds pretty well together.
wattsup, A spin does not require magnetism to spin and depending on the material, a magnet will stop a spin. You have to have a spin before you can have a magnet.
A flow of resistance creates a spin, a spin and a flow of resistance creates a magnetic field, The magnetic flux of a magnet flows in a spinning direction from being created by a flow of resistance.
In the case of man made magnets, they are created from a flow of resistance by way of electricity. Depending on the side the flows were forced upon the iron would determine the north and south poles and or the positive and negative. I believe the north would be positive and the south would be negative.
Based on that, the theory of magnets being the key just doesn't make sense. The only thing we have found to be every where and that always flows are frequencies. I would think that of two, the higher would be the positive and the lower would be the negative.
electicity can be created chemically as in batteries ;electricity can be created with solar cells;electricity can be created with a generator spun by water,wind,steam with the use of turbines.The generator uses magnets to do this.No circuit no flow of electricity.................but you can have static electricity just waiting for a circuit which may be created with friction.
Electricity is modern life and without it civilisation would basically collapse....free electricity with no pollution and no limit is our goal.Energy is life....
My conclusion from the research I have done is that electricity is nothing more then a resistance creating and causing the flow of a vibrating frequency. the stronger the resistance, the faster the vibration. The faster the movement of resistance, the faster the flow of the vibration. The larger amount of resistance, the more amount of the vibrating frequency.
Electricity can be transmitted and received, the same with a frequency. Crystallized fossils can be used to attract electricity, just a a frequency can. Magnetic fields don?t attract electricity and they don?t move electricity, the same with frequencies. Electricity is attracted to all metals, just like frequencies. Electricity is made from rubbing things together, just like frequencies. Electricity can create magnetic fields, just like a frequency can.
Based on that and knowing we have frequencies all around us, all we have to do is design something to receive them. There are said to be three different vibrating frequencies all around us and those are the ones we must attract.
First we have to find out what they are and then we have to find out what they are attracted to. Once we do that, the rest is down hill.
mapsrg, thank you for your comment but the question is "What Is Electricity/" not what are the different ways to make it. I am sure we are all aware of the different ways you listed to make it.
Please review the other comments and you may see what i am talking about.
Thanks again though for at least getting involved.
These are the three frequencies you seek.
20khz
69Mhz
181Ghz
ERS
@nightlife
Thanks for your explanations, but what about this then.
To spin, you need to have first something or somethings to spin. Now if those things that are spinning have a physical nature, then they are little magnets.
As for resistance, you are using this term without describing where or how or why this resistance is generated. And without explaining what you mean by "flow of resistance".
If resistance is the result of two opposing forces or the result of a dynamic force against a static force, then you first need those forces. A generator runs into resistance when it produces electricity. I call it drag. But again, this resistance is the result of magnets.
Maybe I do not understand your term "resistance". Or maybe you need to find a better word for what you mean.
The frequencies you are after ....is one the frequency of light?
wattsup, A spin can be and in some cases is caused by a flow, the flow of a frequency is what I am talking about. As for a flow of resistance, when a distance is created, it created my a movement which would be the flow. The resistance will create a frequency and that is why I am calling a frequency a flow of resistance.
mapsrg, the frequencies I am after are sound frequencies.
Quote from: nightlife on December 18, 2007, 01:40:58 PM
wattsup, A spin can be and in some cases is caused by a flow, the flow of a frequency is what I am talking about. As for a flow of resistance, when a distance is created, it created my a movement which would be the flow. The resistance will create a frequency and that is why I am calling a frequency a flow of resistance.
mapsrg, the frequencies I am after are sound frequencies.
A frequency is a measurement of a number of cycles per unit of time.
Resistance is a meterial's opposition to the flow of current.
"resistance" does not "flow"
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Here is what Tesla has to say about "electricity":
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Returning to the subject, and bearing in mind that the existence of two electricities is, to say the least, highly improbable, we must remember, that we have no evidence of electricity, nor can we hope to get it, unless gross matter is present. Electricity, therefore, cannot be called ether in the broad sense of the term; but nothing would seem to stand in the way of calling electricity ether associated with matter, or bound other; or, in other words, that the so-called static charge of the molecule is ether associated in some way with the molecule. Looking at it in that light, we would be justified in saying, that electricity is concerned in all molecular actions.
@mapsrg
Yes in the a 432 concert tuning as opposed to Americas standard 440 i think its either the 49 or the 50 octave that line up exactly with the primary colors so in essence at the 50 octacve in an a432 tuning your scale directly relates in electromagnetic freq to the primary colors and a few others....
Joe
Quote from: Moab on December 17, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
First, while I agree magnetism is a huge part of the all creation. It absolutely dose NOT exist every where. It is a powerful force of Both nature and man. But it is not where energy comes from. It is only yet another expression of energy like light or sound or yes Grumpy Spin.
This is where your teachers have failed you. Light, Sound, and
ALL ENERGY IS MAGNETIC FORCE! Please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation
"Electromagnetic radiation is classified into types according to the frequency of the wave: these types include, in order of increasing frequency, radio waves, microwaves, terahertz radiation, infrared radiation, visible light, ultraviolet radiation, X-rays and gamma rays."
As you can see... all energy is the same thing, electro
magnetic radiation. The only reason you think it is different is because they have different names, and different strengths. The only reason you think Gold and Platinum are different is because of its name, and strength too. All magnetic radiation is capable of being collected and used as free energy, with a simple radio. If raido waves, and gamma rays are the same thing, that means we can tune our raidos to collect gamma rays. Want to collect gamma rays from the sun? Tune your radio to that frequency of magnetic radiation.
When ANYONE says "frequency" they are talking about
magnetic radiation at different "strengths". When ANYONE says " visible light" they are talking about
magnetic radiation at the strength that is visible to the human eye.
There is only 0ne energy, that is magnetic force.
Let me tell you a little more about light... Light is faster than we know, because we can only measure it when it slows down! When light leaves the Sun, it is traveling "FASTER THAN LIGHT". It is so fast we can not see it. The only time light becomes visible is when it encounters resistance and slows down. This is why there is darkness in space, because the light (magnetic radiation) is traveling too fast because there is no resistance, we can't see it. When the light from the Sun hits the Earth, the sky is resisting the light, so the sky lights up. When the light travels through the atmosphere, and through rain, you will see a rainbow. This rainbow is created because the light is being slowed down. The slower the light gets, the more the color changes.
Quote from: Moab on December 17, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
Magnetism is a powerful force but it is not everywhere and always.
Look again... it is everywhere. It is what makes the air you breath, the water you drink, and the ground you stand on. Magnetism is every element ever. When it is not in element form, it is traveling through everything.
...to be continued
Quote from: mramos on December 17, 2007, 10:05:22 PM
I must admit I enjoyed what I have read. Very creative.
I like you 0ne (who uses a 0 in his name) and thinks the world is binary. We can relate there. on or off, 1 or 0. No gray/variables in there.
Thank you friend.
Yes everything is binary, 1 or 0, yes or no. A complex system of yes and no is what creates everything.
Quote from: mramos on December 17, 2007, 10:05:22 PM
But I have to ask. REASON FOR THIS POST, if I take two magnets and click them together (n/s of course) I get hydrogen? So two spinning magnets on a wheel passing will make an H generator? I like that idea.
Not exactly. When I say "click two magnets together" I am talking about protons and electrons. Hydrogen is made of 1 proton, and 1 electron, those are the magnets. According to todays knowledge, you have electrons flowing through your wires, and out of outlets in your house. Electrons are naturaly attracted to Protons, that is why almost all elements have the same number of electrons as they do protons, they are almost always together.
If you can allow only 1 electron to flow through your wires, and meet with 1 proton, you can make hydrogen. There IS a way to make hydrogen with just "electricity".
Like an electric powered fire. If your circuts are correct, and your timing is correct, and your wires are REALLY THIN, and you use very little power, and you learn the structures of all elements, you can build all elements by simply connecting protons and electrons together like magnets, with "electricity". This renders all elements worthless, because you can have unlimited quantities of them. Gold will be just as valuable as sand.
The key is your switch. How fast do you need to switch the power on and off, so that only 1 electron flows through your wires? How small does your wire need to be, to allow only 1 electron to flow through? NANOWIRE??
http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/node/7623
....to be continued.
Wow , I find it fascinating for people to learn what has never been tought.
So many different ideas here. Most interesting
Quantum relationship is more like a thought than a thing.
Quote from: nightlife on December 17, 2007, 10:19:33 PM
mramos, Keely was said to have made large amounts of Hydrogen of two drops of water. Have you read about any of that and or how he did it?
I believe he tapped in to some vibrating frequencies that are either being held from us knowing about and or he him self took them to his grave. I believe these vibrating frequencies are the key to all our energy problems.
Let me tell you all how to PERFECT electrolysis.
Two magnets with
different resonant strengths are attracted to each other, but not as strong as two magnets with the
same resonant strength are attracted to each other.
If you want to effectivly split H2O, your cathode and anode must be different resonances. 0ne must be the same resonance as hydrogen, and the other the same resonance as oxygen. This will make sure hydrogen is attarcted to one side, and oxygen attracted to the other.
Matching resonance is key. When you tune a radio to a frequency, you are turning the antenna into a magnet with a certain resonance that only attracts the magnets with the same resonance.
Grumpy, I think a movement has to be restricted to form a frequency. Therefore a frequency would be a resistance of a movement. Once something is created, everything it touch's becomes a resistance. Either a positive and or a negative depending on the attraction and detraction.
This same theory could and should be used with light as well as magnetic fields. We have to start with something before we can create anything including magnetic fields.
A spin creates a magnetic field and a movement creates a spin, but movement has to have a resistance to create a spin.
I'm sure it has something to do with how things are made manifest in our reality.
Is it possible to magnetize palladium?
Joe
@ Joe,
NO, all precious metals are diamagnetic.
Hans von Lieven
hansvonlieven, have you played with the "string theory"? If so, what are your thoughts about it?
Someone mentioned it to me the other day and I read up on it a bit and it makes me believe it comes from Keely's theory's and or experiments. They say it is based on Einstein?s theory's but I am finding that Einstein may have stole a lot of his theory's and inventions from others. Maybe not word for word or part for part but the ideas in general.
I have found this with several other so called inventors. It really upsets me to hear of them saying me, me and not mentioning others that helped and or came up with the idea's.
Every theory and design I have thought of comes from others peoples ideas that I just either tweaked or duplicated to what I think will work. If I should ever build one, it would be dedicated to all those who inspired me giving all credit where credit is due. There are a few from this forum as well as the forum its self that is due credit in any thing I build.
I think we are on the right track with the frequency theory if we only could find out what those natural frequencies are so we can find a way to order them for us to utilize. Do you know if Hutchinson is still around?
Yes nightlife,
I am somewhat familiar with it. The problem with string theory, as far as I can judge, is that there are no observable phenomena that substantiate the validity of it. That in my view makes it more a philosophy than a theory. For all intense and purpose it is as useless as the chaos theory.
A lot of hot air leading nowhere.
That is why I concentrate on experimentation and short distance projections and hypotheses rather than trying to construct an overall picture of life, the universe and everything.
As to the research into complex frequencies and their properties, that is the one I am trying to track down.
Hans von Lieven
You may find this interesting, there is no such thing as magnetism ;) just like tesla said, Its all electric baby yea!
QuoteMaxwell?s formulation, however, eliminated consideration of the angular component of the force between current elements. It also removed the most fundamental of Amp?re?s assumptions?the unity of electricity and magnetism?by introducing the concept of a magnetic field. There is no magnetic field in any of the writings of Amp?re, nor of his successors in electrodynamics, Carl Friedrich Gauss, Wilhelm Weber, and Bernhard Riemann. Magnetism, for them, is considered an epiphenomenon of electricity; it is the force of electrodynamic attraction or repulsion acting between circuits of electricity, called magnetic molecules (and which came to be known later as electrons).
@http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/edit.html
or maybe this?
QuoteThe discovery of the phenomena of electrical and magnetic induction had introduced a new element into the considerations of electrical law, not taken up in Amp?re's 1826 work. There thus existed, side by side, three seemingly valid descriptions of the electrical interaction: (1) the Coulomb-Poisson law, describing the interaction of two electrical masses at rest; (2) the Amp?re law, describing the interaction of elements of moving electricity, and: (3) a description of the laws of induction, elaborated by Emil Lenz and Franz Neumann. In his Fundamental Electrical Law, stated in 1846, Weber achieved the unification of these various phenomena under a single conception.
Instead of the mathematical entities, described as current elements by Amp?re, Weber hypothesized the existence within the conductor of positive and negative electrical particles. He assumed that the presence of an electrical tension caused these particles to move at equal velocities in opposite directions. If one regards an Amp?re current element as containing, at any given instant, a positive and a negative electrical particle, passing each other, then in the pairwise relationship of two current elements, there are four interactions to be considered. By the Coulomb law, these interactions, consisting of two repulsions and two attractions, cancel each other. However, the elementary experiments of Amp?re had shown that a motion is produced between the wires, implying the existence of a force not described by the Coulomb law. For example, two parallel conducting wires attract each other when the current in the two wires flows in the same direction, and repel each other when the opposite is the case. The situation is perfectly well explained under the Amp?re force law, when one takes into account the angular relationship of the respective current elements. However, Weber's unifying approach was to assume that the relative velocities of the electrical particles produced a modification in the Coulomb electrostatic force, to produce the resultant force between the wires. Considering all the configurations which Amp?re had examined, as well as those arising from the phenomena of induction, he was able to formulate a general statement of the Fundamental Electrical Law. This showed that the general law describing the force of interaction of two electrical particles, depends upon the relative velocities and the relative accelerations of the particles. The Coulomb electrostatic law thus becomes a special case of Weber's general law, when the particles are at relative rest.
@http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/history/weber.html
So really magnetism doesn't exist it is electric, a PM is moving electric charges held in alignment in matter. The scientific community is covering up Maxwells screwup, and we all know you can't give a nobel prize to a screwup, that would be embarrasing. :D
As well Wilhelm Eduard Weber and homopolar generator are two words no physicist wants to hear.
I have seen the devil and looked into his eyes and his name was vanity.-AC
hansvonlieven, "A lot of hot air leading nowhere."
LOL, I thought the same thing but it still was interesting that the vibrating frequency theory was used. It helps give me hope that I am going in the right direction.
allCanadian, that is some interesting information that also helps me know I am going in the right direction.
To all, I asked some questions in another thread that I will post here that may be a way for us to test the vibrating frequency theory.
Does anyone know what actually powers a speaker?
Has anyone ever actually tested the EMF and or collapsing fields voltage from a speaker?
Has anyone ever checked the voltage created by just vibrating the speaker cone?
Has anyone checked the voltage created the EMF by just vibrating a speaker?
That would be a very interesting experiment if it has not been done yet. If it has, does anyone have a link to a site with those findings?
I know what actually powers a speaker but I still would like to know some answers to the other questions. Those findings may lead some in to another way of producing electricity.
WHAT IS ELECTRICITY?
What is "current?
Guess we are kinda stuck here, huh?
I find electricity to be nothing other than a flow of resistance.
And what is "current"?
People have mentioned spin in this discussion...spin direction is relative.Take a ball mark two opposing points (poles) with a cross.mark in an equator of arrows in one direction.Now look at each pole and mark its direction of rotation compared to equator rotation.One is clockwise the other anticlockwise........
Quote from: mapsrg on December 27, 2007, 11:15:49 PM
People have mentioned spin in this discussion...spin direction is relative.Take a ball mark two opposing points (poles) with a cross.mark in an equator of arrows in one direction.Now look at each pole and mark its direction of rotation compared to equator rotation.One is clockwise the other anticlockwise........
Nope, both poles are rotating the same direction, that is the direction of the equator arrows. There is no such thing as "anti-clockwise". Everything is clockwise, its just your perspective and eyes that tells you differently.
When you pull the plug out of a sink of water it spins clockwise in New Zealand ( southern hemisphere ).In the northern hemisphere it is anticlockwise spin down the drain.This is why......at the equator there is no spin down drain
Quote from: mapsrg on December 28, 2007, 01:40:53 AM
When you pull the plug out of a sink of water it spins clockwise in New Zealand ( southern hemisphere ).In the northern hemisphere it is anticlockwise spin down the drain.This is why......at the equator there is no spin down drain
You must understand, the only reason you think it is turning anti-clockwise is because of your visual perspective. In this Universe, there is no up or down.
Here is an example of a car. When you look at the car from the Right side, and it is moving Forward, both front and back, left and right wheels are spinning clockwise. If you were on the Left side looking at the car, all the wheels will look like they are spinning anti-clockwise. Because of your visual point of view change from Right to Left, your human mind is tricked into believing the illusion that the wheels on the Right are clockwise, and the Left are anti-clockwise. When in reality, they are all spinning the same direction.
b.t.w. your spinning water down a drain example is NOT TRUE. You are another example of a student with a horrible teacher that spreads lies and rumers....
http://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadCoriolis.html
...... the drain example is true......try it.....you are in the northern hemisphere arent you?And can anyone else confirm this............
The link you have on the spinning of cyclones and anticyclones and water in sinks is interesting but I dont fake it everytime i pull a plug out.I can see what you mean in the car example but the forward direction of the car is the result of a rotation that itself is modified at the differential ......
@mapsrg
The car example is very telling, but look at it this way.
Let's say you had a 1 foot diameter tube 5 feet long that was placed upright or vertical and full of water that is turning. The tube is suspended by chains so that you can go under the tube and see the direction of the water turning through a glass.
Let's say the distance of the tube was the to simulate the Earths' diameter. When you look under the tube, it is as is you were upright in the southern hemisphere.
Now as you change sides and move upwards you travel past the center of the tube (Earths' core) and end up on the other side. Now look at the direction of the water turning. It seems as though it is turning the other way, but it is not. The water in the whole tube is turning the same way. Only ONE direction.
So which direction does the earth spin clockwise or anticlockwise?