Education isn't so much as what you have read and or been told as much as it what you have personally experienced. Our education systems are based on what others have read and or been told and or what they have possibly experienced.
When we base our education on what others have experienced, we are at the mercy of their story of their experience. We all know how things can and do get twisted when a story gets told by another after hearing it from another themselves. We also know how some exaggerate about things as well. We also know how some will tell it how they want it to be heard so it will benefit themselves. This is one of the reasons our education systems are regulated and only allowed to teach about certain things and they are limited on the way they can be teach them as well as they are limited to what they can use to teach about them.
The whole electron thing is a prime example, no one has ever seen one but yet we are taught that there is one. The same thing with God. They say there is a electron because there has to be and they say the same thing about God.
Maybe God is the electron, proton an nuclei?
Maybe a atom contains another universe?
There is no answer and only assumptions at this point, we have to use what we do know about and when energy is the subject, we must start with what we know of as a natural ever lasting reproducible energy source and that would be a natural flow that can be received and repelled as well as intensified or canceled or restricted. The only natural source that we are aware of at this time like that is a frequency.
Does that make sense? LOL
Except that the electron has facts surrounding it.
imsoolazy, there is no proof of a electron nor is there any proof of anything smaller then a atom.
Please keep a open mind when reading my postings and keep that reply I left with it.
Single electron spins have been measured:
http://domino.watson.ibm.com/comm/pr.nsf/pages/news.20040714_nanoscale.html
Single electron transistors have been around for a while:
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/11/9/7/1
Single electronic orbitals in a molecule were recently imaged by high speed lasers:
http://www.nature.com/physics/highlights/7020-3.html
Last year, a single electron trapped in a quantum dot was detected:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005AIPC..772..775S
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005cond.mat.10269G
edit:fixed a link.
They are referring to electrons as tiny magnets but they still have not seen them.
Here is something to think about. They say that electrons flow thru materials. That would mean the electron would have to leave a atom unless they are saying that atoms flow thru materials too. That would be saying that a solid substance can flow thru another solid substance, That is ridiculous and to think that people believe that makes it that more ridiculous. Even if it was true, what happens to the atom after the magical electron leaves it?
It just does not make sense to believe that a electron is a substance. The only thing it can be is a frequency or unless you want to go off in to left field, you may call it a spirit.
Electrons may be a part of a atom and they may be tiny magnets but there is no way you can convince me that a solid substance can flow thru another solid substances.
You talk of solid substances, theres no viscosity with valence electrons.
imsoolazy, so you are saying they ride on the outside of a atom and they flow from jumping surfaces of the atoms?
Wait. You said electrons are spirits? So people and animals are electrons. So we are electricity. Time to go put my finger in a socket.
imsoolazy, LOL, I only said that because if they aren't anything other then a frequency then they must be spirits. I personally don?t believe in spirits because I cant prove they exist but there are those who do and those who do must think of electricity as a spirit if they don?t think of it as a frequency.
Nightlife--- DUH
Spirits and frequencies are the only two things that exist? Cause if its not a frequency it surely must be something with no proof, facts or anything of the scientific sort surrounding it.. must be..
isltoo, "Nightlife--- DUH"
If you have something to say, please say it but let me remind you that I will not tolerate being disrespected.
imsoolazy, I thought we were talking about energy here?
Well your pretty attatched to the idea of electron being god/spirits.. thought I'd give my thoughts on that.
imsoolazy, the god and spirits talk was a joke. I simply was saying that if people don?t think electricity is a frequency or a sound wave, then they must think it is a spirit.
Most people think electricity is a electron and that it is a solid substance like a tiny magnet. I say that is imposable and that it must be like a frequency and or a sound wave.
To me, electricity is nothing more then a flow of resistance which also creates a frequency and or a sound wave.
An electron and a proton are made of MINI BLACK HOLES. You know, those things that are so powerful they suck in all matter and light?
They exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
Now imagine electrons and protons, both made of subatomic black holes, and light. These black holes are God. There is only two types of mini black holes.
I have proof of everything I say actually, and experiments that prove electricity is only magnetism, and magnetism is made of electrons and protons, and those are made of black holes and light.
Nothing is solid. There is actually no such thing as solid, only repulsion. When something is appears "solid" it is only repelling like poles. If you knew how to change poles, nothing is solid, and you can pass through everything, even brick walls.
Air and water pass through cracks and holes that are microscopic. Magnetism passes through everything because it is smaller than everything, meaning everything has cracks and holes.
Quote from: nightlife on December 21, 2007, 09:58:20 PM
imsoolazy, there is no proof of a electron nor is there any proof of anything smaller then a atom.
There IS proof of an electron, thats how it was descovered in the first place. Electrons can be seen inside of a "cathode ray tube", which is basicly used in all CRT computer monitors and TV's.
Also, do you know what the sparks are that are created when you touch two wires together with electricity running in them? Figure out what those sparks are, why they carry light, and why they are moving so fast.
Quote from: nightlife on December 27, 2007, 02:31:51 AM
They are referring to electrons as tiny magnets but they still have not seen them.
Here is something to think about. They say that electrons flow thru materials. That would mean the electron would have to leave a atom unless they are saying that atoms flow thru materials too. That would be saying that a solid substance can flow thru another solid substance, That is ridiculous and to think that people believe that makes it that more ridiculous. Even if it was true, what happens to the atom after the magical electron leaves it?
It just does not make sense to believe that a electron is a substance. The only thing it can be is a frequency or unless you want to go off in to left field, you may call it a spirit.
Electrons may be a part of a atom and they may be tiny magnets but there is no way you can convince me that a solid substance can flow thru another solid substances.
I am by no means an expert, but it is well known that electricity is electrons moving from one atom to another. So there are no atoms moving through other atoms.
Quote from: 0ne on December 27, 2007, 01:06:16 PM
Now imagine electrons and protons, both made of subatomic black holes, and light. These black holes are God. There is only two types of mini black holes.
Does that mean there are only two types of God? ??? ??? ???
Hans von Lieven
shruggedatlas,
Quote from: shruggedatlas on December 27, 2007, 01:55:19 PM
Quote from: nightlife on December 27, 2007, 02:31:51 AM
I am by no means an expert, but it is well known that electricity is electrons moving from one atom to another. So there are no atoms moving through other atoms.
I can except that as long as they are riding piggyback and not flowing thru solid objects. But then we have to talk about the electrical charge in a electron because it is proven that frequencies and or radio waves contain a electrical charge and those go thru solid objects.
hansvonlieven,
Quote from: hansvonlieven on December 27, 2007, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: 0ne on December 27, 2007, 01:06:16 PM
Now imagine electrons and protons, both made of subatomic black holes, and light. These black holes are God. There is only two types of mini black holes.
Does that mean there are only two types of God? ??? ??? ???
Hans von Lieven
Based on that theory, I guess there are trillions of Gods.
Quote from: nightlife on December 27, 2007, 02:31:51 AM
Electrons may be a part of an atom and they may be tiny magnets but there is no way you can convince me that a solid substance can flow thru another solid substances.
Nothing is solid. To call something "solid" is to call it "repelling". The only reason it appears "solid" is because it is "repelling" everything.
When I throw a ball at a wall, the ball hits and bounces back. This is because the wall is "repelling" the ball instantly when it touches, it does NOT mean the wall is "solid".
The wall, and ball, are both made of electrons and protons. This is why they can not pass through each other, because they both are attracted and repulsed from each other, at a subatomic level. However, if you make the ball a really powerfull magnet by shooting it out of a really powerful gun, the ball will pass through like it was not "solid". This is because the magnetic strength of the ball is greater than the wall, because the ball was shot.
"Kinetic Energy" is basicaly EXTRA magnetic force being stored into something. Science think's "kinetic energy" is only present when the ball is moving... this is false. Actually the only reason the ball is moving, is because you put that kinetic energy into it.
So you think its impossible for a solid object to pass through another solid object huh? Ever herd of the "vacuum cannon"? They shot a PING-PONG BALL through 3 ALUMINUM CANS.
Electrons don't pass physicaly through metal, they pass through the joints, and cracks, and holes. All the atoms of metal are held together by a force only, like to magnets stuck together. There is nothing solid holding the magnets together, there is only a small space of magnetic force. This is where the electrons travel through.
Think of it like water soaking into dirt. The water is passing through the cracks and holes that make the dirt as a whole. Magnetism does the same thing, but since magnetism particles are smaller than everything, it can pass through everything. Since light is a bit bigger than magnetism, light can pass through some things but not all. Since air is bigger than light, it can only pass through bigger cracks and holes. Since water is bigger than air, it can only pass through certain cracks and holes.
But, nothing is smaller than electrons and nothing is smaller than the forces that makes electrons. So they can pass through all cracks.
When electrons travel through metal, they are traveling through the atomic bonds, not through the atoms. The bonds themselves are actually magnetic force.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on December 27, 2007, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: 0ne on December 27, 2007, 01:06:16 PM
Now imagine electrons and protons, both made of subatomic black holes, and light. These black holes are God. There is only two types of mini black holes.
Does that mean there are only two types of God? ??? ??? ???
Hans von Lieven
No, it means God has 2 hands to do work with. Just like the image of man.
Quote from: nightlife on December 27, 2007, 02:27:41 PM
Based on that theory, I guess there are trillions of Gods.
No, those "trillions" all make 0ne force. Just like a trillion+ atoms make a man.
You, Me, Everything, is all a small part of God.
0ne, magnetic feilds are produced by a force of some sort. That force is what I am concidering as electricity.
If magnetic force is created by electricity, and electricity is created by "moving electrons"......
Then how does an "electron" get an "electric charge"? Are you telling me the "electrons" have "electricity" in it? Electrons within electrons?? That doesn't work...
Protons have "electric charges" too...
Does that mean a "proton" has "electrons" moving inside of it?
That doesn't work either...
Both protons, and electrons, have "electric charges" AND magnetic fields....
Once you find out what a magnetic field is, you will understand "electric charges" inside of subatomic particles. Because it is the magnetic field that we are mistaking as an "electric charge".
nightlife - "To me, electricity is nothing more then a flow of resistance which also creates a frequency and or a sound wave."
I must fix you... you sound so wrong...
RESISTANCE is to RESIST. "To exert force in opposition."
The closed door is stopping/resisting me from entering the room. The door is my resistance.
How can there be a "flow of resistance"?? Resist is a VERB, an ACTION, NOT a NAME.
A "resistor" is resisting the electricity from flowing in the wire. It is trying to stop the electricity, but not all of it.
FREQUENCY is FREQUENT. "To associate with, be in, or resort to OFTEN or habitually."
How frequent do you take a shower? Once a day? Twice a day? If you take a shower once a day, that means you take a shower at the frequency of 7 showers a week.
How can a resistance "flow", and at a frequency?
You need to use the dictionary a bit more...
Electricy, Sound, Light, and ALL ENERGY, is magnetic force.
0ne, "How can there be a "flow of resistance"?? Resist is a VERB, an ACTION, NOT a NAME."
A flow of resistance would be the movement between two contacts when one is stationary, slower or moving in the opposite direction of the other contacts movement.
That is what I call a flow of resistance.
"How can a resistance "flow", and at a frequency?"
You have to remember that energy is frequent too.
"You need to use the dictionary a bit more..."
LOL, you need to open your mind a little and stop trying to test my itellegence.
"Electricy, Sound, Light, and ALL ENERGY, is magnetic force."
Wrong, all, including a magnetic force, are created by a flow of resistance.
When they teach us that electrons flow in a conductor they must be wrong since removing electrons atom to atom must use up alote of energy....For example heating metal to white hot is only exciting electrons to a higher level ( energy state) where they cause light to be emitted to move back to a lower energy level.