Why not use a propane carb to inject the HHO? Anyone experiment with this before? I have seen some nice v8 propane carbs for sale.
CarbedNotch, most vehicles are multi port injected today. It would be a good idea for older carbureted motors. Do you know how much pressure is needed for propane to work using your carburetors?
Yes. It is around 10psi operating pressure.
This is a 4bbl carb running a high performance engine 302CID cam intake etc etc
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CarbedNotch, thank you.
What is attached to the line just before the "T"?
What ever it is, do you think it would work with hydrogen and or if it would still be needed?
That "part" is a LP gas vaporizer. It converts 3000psi liquid form into gas @ aprox 10-20psi.
So to answer your question, No you would not need that part if you were to attempt to experiment with this system with HHO.
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My only concern is that HHO burns over 3 times hotter than propane. So I suspect you would have to put smaller gas jets in it. About 3X smaller ones my theory is.
How about 1/3 less PSI?
I thought LP liquefies at about 800psi ?
yes before the vaporizer. When going into the mixer its not at 800psi.
right, it is 800 psi in the tank and regulated from there to what ever pressure you need.
A 300 cu inch Ford power unit under a load at 1800 rpm uses 365.67 cu feet of natural gas an hour slightly less for propane. That equates to 65.59 cu feet of HHO gas per hour or 510 mililiter per second at 5 psi. The propane / natural gas carburator should carburate HHO gas easily with some modification to prevent a flashback.
Propane gas requires about 150 psi to remain liquid, not 800 psi.
I thought it was less than 150psi.triffid
Quote from: dryadaibatic on March 10, 2008, 09:47:19 PM
A 300 cu inch Ford power unit under a load at 1800 rpm uses 365.67 cu feet of natural gas an hour slightly less for propane. That equates to 65.59 cu feet of HHO gas per hour or 510 mililiter per second at 5 psi. The propane / natural gas carburator should carburate HHO gas easily with some modification to prevent a flashback.
Is it logical to interpolate those numbers for a larger engine? I have an RV with a 454 CID engine, and found an Impco 200 Carb that came off a 454. Does anyone have any experience with converting this kind of carburetor to HHO? Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
Quote from: ddrew on April 01, 2008, 08:40:12 AM
Quote from: dryadaibatic on March 10, 2008, 09:47:19 PM
A 300 cu inch Ford power unit under a load at 1800 rpm uses 365.67 cu feet of natural gas an hour slightly less for propane. That equates to 65.59 cu feet of HHO gas per hour or 510 mililiter per second at 5 psi. The propane / natural gas carburator should carburate HHO gas easily with some modification to prevent a flashback.
Is it logical to interpolate those numbers for a larger engine? I have an RV with a 454 CID engine, and found an Impco 200 Carb that came off a 454. Does anyone have any experience with converting this kind of carburetor to HHO? Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
be creative
Quote from: CarbedNotch on April 02, 2008, 04:30:42 PMbe creative
Is that one of those questions that isn't supposed to be asked?? I've been searching for the 'magic formula' to determine how much capacity is needed for a specific sized ICE. This post is one of the few I've found that have specific measurements for a specific engine. I would think the volume needed for a larger engine could be derived by dividing the 65.59 cu ft/hr by 300 CID, to get .22 cu ft/hr per Cubic Inch of engine displacement. One could reduce that further and get .0037 Cubic Feet/Minute per CID. If that is not a correct approach to calculating the volume of HHO one would need for an Internal Combustion Engine, please correct me. Chemistry is not my subject matter expertise. Thanks in advance for any advice.