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Title: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: snowblind on January 24, 2008, 02:11:45 AM
Ok.. so been thinking of all the water ideas and how they dont really work so how bout this:

A: Energy in: have a electrolosis thing at the bottom of your machine. it produces hydrogen.

Energy out:
B:  Hydrogen escapes up unto a upside down bucket connected to a chain, which pulls the chain up -> mechanical energy
C:  At the top the hydrogen escapes when the bucket goes up, and is then combusted, or put through a fuel cell to make electrical energy.

Can someone do the mathmatics on how this would work??
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: psychopath on January 24, 2008, 02:36:24 AM
Hey I was just wondering, if anyone can tell me, isn't more energy used up in separating the hydrogen than is gained by using the hyrdogen?

I keep seeing water energy type devices and I was wondering...
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: hansvonlieven on January 24, 2008, 03:06:35 AM
@ snowblind

If you could produce cheaply so much hydrogen to get that contraption of yours to work, wouldn't you be better off to feed it into an internal combustion engine?

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: snowblind on January 24, 2008, 04:42:51 AM
Thats the point.

by memory creating hydrogen via electrolosis, and then reusing it in the fuel cell is something like one third efficiancy. the other 2 thirds would come from spinning the belt/wheel contraption..
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: hansvonlieven on January 24, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
Quote from: snowblind on January 24, 2008, 04:42:51 AM
Thats the point.

by memory creating hydrogen via electrolosis, and then reusing it in the fuel cell is something like one third efficiancy. the other 2 thirds would come from spinning the belt/wheel contraption..

With what??

Hans von Lieven
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: Schpankme on January 24, 2008, 03:20:43 PM
snowblind (conjunctiva),

Don't be distracted by the FOOL CELL.

- Schpankme
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: snowblind on January 24, 2008, 03:21:48 PM
from the hydrogen  pushing upwards.  Heres a better diagram.
Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: ResinRat2 on January 24, 2008, 03:33:52 PM
Posted by Wizkycho on August 29, 2006 in the ELSA thread:

Title: Re: water wheel -> no water.
Post by: snowblind on January 24, 2008, 03:51:54 PM
Cheers for posting that doc.  Thats pretty much what I  ment!